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Topic: Anyone a Lawyer?
Posted By: sunnyhoney
Subject: Anyone a Lawyer?
Date Posted: 20 April 2008 at 5:02pm
I had a phone conversation with MIL the other night, trying to sort out some issues that we have been having. She is now saying that she recorded that conversation (without my knowledge) and gave the tape to a psychologist to analyze. The psychologist has told her that I hate her and am only trying to get along with her to get her money. Not true btw.
Is there anything I can do about her recording me without my consent for the purpose she intended it?

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Posted By: Paws
Date Posted: 20 April 2008 at 5:07pm
OMG that sounds nuts! Why would she record you???

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Posted By: james
Date Posted: 20 April 2008 at 5:09pm
i think your mil is the nutter she relly shouldnt of recored you

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Posted By: sunnyhoney
Date Posted: 20 April 2008 at 5:13pm
Have no idea. Recently, I have been standing up for myself more instead of letting her get away with her childish behavior. I am guessing it is so that she can continue playing the victim. Maybe it is her way of getting back at me.
She told DH today that she felt like committing suicide because of our issues. She is just using emotional blackmale to get to us I feel.
Never in my life have I been treated like this.

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Joy Emily 1.05am 27/09/07 7lb 3oz
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Posted By: sunnyhoney
Date Posted: 20 April 2008 at 5:15pm
I am worried that if she can stoop that low that she may try to really hurt me by inventing something to get the authorities to take Joy away.

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Joy Emily 1.05am 27/09/07 7lb 3oz
Austin Paul 12.47pm 18/04/10 10lb 8oz


Posted By: .Mel
Date Posted: 20 April 2008 at 5:23pm
Has she actually shown you the tape. Does it exist?
What does your partner think about this?

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Posted By: sunnyhoney
Date Posted: 20 April 2008 at 5:36pm
No, so there is a possibility that there isn't one and this is all a fabrication. I would have to see the tape/listen to it etc before I could do anything?

DH was trying to sort it all out. He's on my side but wants us to get along which is what I would prefer too. However after this stunt, I feel so hurt that I want nothing more to do with her.

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Joy Emily 1.05am 27/09/07 7lb 3oz
Austin Paul 12.47pm 18/04/10 10lb 8oz


Posted By: peachy
Date Posted: 20 April 2008 at 5:49pm
sunnyhoney I can understand you wanting nothing more to do with her, that is such a horrible thing for her to do to you. I feel for you guys, that must be heartbreaking for your DH to have a Mother that has done this or even threatened this upon you.

I cannot offer any advice, but I hope things work out for you all.

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Posted By: MissCandice
Date Posted: 20 April 2008 at 6:04pm
Sunnyhoney. That is HORRIBLE! She sounds like the one with problems, as for seeing a phycologist.. I dont think they would d that really, unless she had been seeing the P for some time. I mean seriously what shrink would listen to something as odd as that?

Anyways, they cant take joy off you unless she is in danger hun so dont worry.

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Posted By: sally belly
Date Posted: 20 April 2008 at 6:07pm
Oh my goodness Sunnyhoney. What a terrible situation for your family to be in. I can completely understand you not wanting anything to do with her from now on. It sounds as if your DH is being supportive of you which is great & exactly what you need.

I really don't have any advice to offer other than to suggest that a psychologist wouldn't say that you hate her . Hate is a very strong word. Perhaps she is making it all up for some more attention.

Hugs to you.   

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Posted By: JadeC
Date Posted: 20 April 2008 at 6:14pm
To be honest any psychologidt with morals would not even listen to the tape,let alone commemt. It sounds like she is making it up.
I know its hard, but it may be bestr to let the incident go, and end contact with her, it sounds like a relationship that really idsn't helpful to you, and you deserve better!

(excuse typing, have a broken wrist anf mudt type with left hand!)

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Posted By: mummy_becks
Date Posted: 20 April 2008 at 6:15pm

OMG you MIL sounds just like my friends MIL, she does the exact same things (including the cries of "i'll just go and kill myself then") and she does and they don't have children yet.

Big Hugs to you, hopefully you can get her sorted.



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Posted By: Redbedrock
Date Posted: 20 April 2008 at 6:33pm
[QUOTE=JadeC] To be honest any psychologidt with morals would not even listen to the tape,let alone commemt. It sounds like she is making it up./QUOTE]
Quite agree, not sure i know of any pyschologist who would do that sort of thing, without offering help to your MIL. there is just no way. I would ask for the name of the psychologist and call her bluff, say you obviously need the help and want to go to this person as they know your case
Otherwise no help, Inlaws eh, can't live with em, can't shoot em

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Posted By: kebakat
Date Posted: 20 April 2008 at 7:25pm
I asked my psychologist friend about it and she said that if she paid one to listen to it then they probably would depending on what she told them when given the tape. But from the other things that you said it sounds more like shes sh*t stirring trying to scare you. Which sounds pretty plausible to me given what you have said about her personality..

But she also said that that can't be used in evidence against you with Joy. If she makes something up to use against you, the authorities will check with friends and your DH and see that Joy is in no danger whatsoever and that you just have a very strange MIL who needs some help.


Posted By: Jennz
Date Posted: 20 April 2008 at 7:44pm
She is sooooo making it up- Mum is one and there is no way that any shrink worth their weight would do something like that. The only way that it could possibly of happened is if she were listening to the conversation to comment on your MILs part within the conversation to discuss HER issues, not yours. No way would they make that kind of blanket statement (one that would be bound to do damage to you relationship) without meeting you and having in depth conversations with you. Even then, as IF they would say that you are just trying to get her money

She sounds like an incredibly manipulative immature woman. Your Poor DH- and poor you! I would distance myself as much as possible if I were you

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Posted By: fattartsrock
Date Posted: 20 April 2008 at 7:52pm
What a deluded witch!

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Posted By: sunnyhoney
Date Posted: 20 April 2008 at 8:31pm
Been talking to DH again, apparently the phone call was made from the office of the psychologist/psychiatrist so they could listen in and record the conversation.
DH asked who the practitioner was and she wouldn't say. I also agree with you ladies about the morals of the psychologist and kinda believe that she is lying about it but I know (based on her personality/past experiences - she did the same thing to her daughter that she had adopted out and reckoned she was out to get her money too)that she could quite easily not be lying either.
DH still wants her to be in our lives for Joy's sake but I don't for the same reason. MIL lives 5 mins away from us. Hate is a strong word, and before today I honestly wanted to have a good relationship with her but now I feel she destroyed that hope.

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Austin Paul 12.47pm 18/04/10 10lb 8oz


Posted By: Jennz
Date Posted: 20 April 2008 at 8:37pm
Is there a chance the call was made from a friends house whos 'qualification' is that she watches alot of Dr Phil? No way a proper psychiatrist would ever be a part of something like that- totally unethical and I would suspect illegal on their part if you weren't informed of it being recorded.

The lady has issues!

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Posted By: fattartsrock
Date Posted: 20 April 2008 at 8:51pm
Originally posted by Jennz Jennz wrote:

Is there a chance the call was made from a friends house whos 'qualification' is that she watches alot of Dr Phil? No way a proper psychiatrist would ever be a part of something like that- totally unethical and I would suspect illegal on their part if you weren't informed of it being recorded.

The lady has issues!


I totally agree. So she sees a psychologist because of you? to sort out your problems even though you aren't there? So she has no issues of her own?

To be totally honest I would be telling DH to step up and step in. You and Joy are his family now, he nees to look out fo ryou, not his drama queen mother.

And this is coming from me, defender of mother in laws, lol, so it has really struck a chord...

Keeping her in your lives for Joy will do more harm than good. the woman will poison her against you, esp in those teenage years when all teenagers hate their mothers, lol.



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Posted By: fattartsrock
Date Posted: 20 April 2008 at 8:53pm
annnnd, I am fairly sure you can't be recorded without knowledge, IE shops etc must display a sign saying they have CCTV, surely that works for oice recording as well??? what a fruit loop. Call her bluff.

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Posted By: MummyFreckle
Date Posted: 20 April 2008 at 9:16pm

I think that its un-ethical, and that if a register physcologist or physcotherapist truly has done this then you could well have a discussion with the registration people. I think that you would find this would go against there principals etc.

I feel for you and your DH. I have a close family member that I havent spoken to for 8 years as they too were manipulative, drama-queeney and add zero value to our lives.  Its pretty tough sometimes, but in the end I know it was the best decision for me and my family (DH and Oli).

Your priority needs to be Joy, you are a fantastic mummy and dont let anyone tell you otherwise. No one is going to take her away - and threats from your MIL are just plain nasty. I would call her bluff and ask for a family meeting with the physcologist.

 



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Posted By: BellaBoo
Date Posted: 20 April 2008 at 9:34pm
Oh how horrible.

Even though she is family you really dont want someone so toxic in your lives.

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Posted By: kebakat
Date Posted: 21 April 2008 at 9:11am
I think shes lying if she says she had a shrink on the other end of the phone. They wouldn't do that at all!


Posted By: Jay_R
Date Posted: 21 April 2008 at 9:28am
No, they absolutely wouldn't. I'm not a registered psychologist, but I have got two papers left to complete my degree, and from what I know and have experienced it is completely outside all ethical realms for any practitioner.

She is completely fabricating it. And if you didn't hate her before this, then I bet you sure do now!

What a drama queeen. Sounds to me like she is feeling left out of your DH's life now you and Joy are his immediate family and is trying to sabotage things between you.


Posted By: sunnyhoney
Date Posted: 21 April 2008 at 10:35am
Yep, that's what we think too, that and the fact that she can't get her own way this time (because I am standing up for myself this time). This is just a big mess from something that was a small issue. She is being very childish about the whole thing. It doesn't matter what we say or do it gets twisted to suit herself. She conveniently "forgets" nasty things she has done and said but anything we say is taken as "attacking her".
I am sooooo over her and the whole thing.

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Joy Emily 1.05am 27/09/07 7lb 3oz
Austin Paul 12.47pm 18/04/10 10lb 8oz


Posted By: kebakat
Date Posted: 21 April 2008 at 10:40am
If it was me I'd be avoiding contact with her. If she calls I wouldn't talk to her. I'd just let DH deal with his own mother until she learns how to behave. Then she can't twist anything you say to suit her. Then if she gets cranky about you ignoring her, then so be it.. your DH could say that this is how its going to be until she can play nice.


Posted By: Andie
Date Posted: 21 April 2008 at 11:40am

Yeah I agree with Stacey there. 

OK so I've had dealings with a fair few Psychologists through work, and I hate to say it but as stupid a thing as that is to do (if that is in fact what her shrink did), I can think of one Psychologist who has acted very unethically and unprofessionally (royally screwing up the case too).  So it's possible, but not likely.  Reeeally not likely. 



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Posted By: Andie
Date Posted: 21 April 2008 at 11:47am

Ah, and about your worries that she may try to have Joy taken from you - I used to investigate CYF cases - all I can advise is that if she does contact them, they are obliged to investigate so a social worker will contact you.  This is good news - you'll know someone's called them, you're not kept in the dark about it.  They mightn't be able to say who it was who rang them, but I'm guessing you'd be able to figure that out anyway!  I can advise you not to avoid their calls or visits - they're only people after all, many with their own families, and they've got a job to do - the sooner it's done, the sooner you're left in peace.  Give as many details as you can, including contacts of other people who know you, knowing that they'll be kept confidential in your file.  The more you tell them, the more obvious it'll be to them what the notification was really all about.  Their job isn't to pluck children away from loving homes - and they do get malicious notifications so they know how to deal with them really well.  Here's hoping that it doesn't come to that, but still, should it happen, it's not the end of the world, and you'll be OK. 



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Posted By: Jay_R
Date Posted: 21 April 2008 at 11:54am
Why would she contact CYFS? On what grounds would she be able to have you investigated??



Posted By: scarecrowfarm
Date Posted: 21 April 2008 at 1:14pm
I'm pretty sure it's illegal to record conversations without your prior knowledge.

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Posted By: sunnyhoney
Date Posted: 21 April 2008 at 1:48pm
She wouldn't have any grounds...but it is pretty easy to make something up, she is a good liar and a fantastic drama queen. Authorities would have to investigate if she went that far. It would just be to hurt me and rip my family apart. Just a concern of mine. How much lower can she get kinda thing.

I feel like pressing charges. But then who knows if it is the truth or not. Would be pretty embarrassing for her going that way.
But I also don't want to rock the boat anymore...ignoring her is probably the best for the time being.

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Joy Emily 1.05am 27/09/07 7lb 3oz
Austin Paul 12.47pm 18/04/10 10lb 8oz


Posted By: scarecrowfarm
Date Posted: 21 April 2008 at 3:00pm
You know you're probably right. She's doing her best to push your buttons, and if you don't react she'll just have to admit defeat.

I remember one story when I was a kid about heaping coals of fire on your enemy's head. By coals of fire it meant repaying bad deeds with good ones. It can be extremely embarrassing for someone who is deliberately trying to be cruel to have kindness given back to them, and it can result in a complete change of attitude too.

Go for it, and show them who is the better perso!

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Posted By: sunnyhoney
Date Posted: 23 April 2008 at 9:08am
I don't know if it's a good sign or not...we haven't heard a word since Sunday when DH went around to talk to her...

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Joy Emily 1.05am 27/09/07 7lb 3oz
Austin Paul 12.47pm 18/04/10 10lb 8oz


Posted By: sally belly
Date Posted: 23 April 2008 at 10:59am
Take it as a good sign sunnyhoney . You've had 3 days of relative peace. I hope it continues for you & your family.

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