Glass bottles
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Topic: Glass bottles
Posted By: TysMummy
Subject: Glass bottles
Date Posted: 21 May 2008 at 3:34pm
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Where can i get these...shop wise? ------------- http://lilypie.com">  http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: grrrgrrrr
Date Posted: 21 May 2008 at 3:44pm
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Good post to start, I woudl like to know this as well. I've just bought an electric steriliser so that I don't microwave things as I knwo that it can release toxins from plastic.
Any info on this woudl be awesome ------------- Mattias 2yo Henrik almost 1 |
Posted By: Bubnumber2
Date Posted: 21 May 2008 at 3:46pm
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Hi, sorry I'm not sure when it comes to actual stores to buy these from, but I know you can buy them from the Nature Baby site.
http://www.naturebaby.co.nz/organic_baby_products/organic_food/bottles.html I'm pretty sure Evenflo do glass bottles too, I would imagine there would be some baby stores that stock those. Sorry, I can't help much more than that. I have only just started looking into these again lately.  ------------- http://www.bump-and-beyond.com/"> 
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Posted By: NeoshasMummy
Date Posted: 21 May 2008 at 4:08pm
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Ok so I have been EVERYWHERE online trying to find the glass evenflo bottles and they are all out of stock. Baby factory do the glass Nuk ones but now apparently there are bottles that arent 100% glass or something plunket was saying that are no good anyway so she said if you are going with glass stick with the evenflow or Nuk and dont buy the asian stuff.
I was hoping tomme tippee would bring a glass range out  ------------- https://secure.fertilityfriend.com/home/30c4ec/" rel="nofollow">  Mrs Te Kani ❤️ Neosha 26/5/2007 |
Posted By: WRXnKids
Date Posted: 21 May 2008 at 4:25pm
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Try american sites get a group of ya's to split the cost and buy in bulk. I doubt you would have any trouble finding other mums that would be keen. -------------   
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Posted By: TysMummy
Date Posted: 21 May 2008 at 6:02pm
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the site to go to is www.babyonline.co.nz
they have a pic article on it and they sell them ...they are a auckland company and they are getting some in so you can order now to get an order....they also sell nappies at budget prices..... as for the stores.......im heading overseas this saturday and one area we are going to is the one that brought in the ban on plastic......providing they are cheap im going to buy a heap and let everyone know and i can sell them to you if you still havent managed to find any.....cross your fingers they are cheaper) Thanks to my mum for reminding me........wat i find strange is they put all this outthere about the plastic but no one can find them to buy via the shop....and i hate paying postage (im cheap) you would have thougth at least one shop would do it. ------------- http://lilypie.com"> http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: maysie
Date Posted: 21 May 2008 at 6:37pm
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I've ordered some from Nature Baby. I agree, haven't really seen them in the shops anywhere and I had expected them to be quite expensive but the NB ones were pretty cheap ------------- http://lilypie.com"> 
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Posted By: Mama2two
Date Posted: 21 May 2008 at 8:30pm
If you are in Auckland Nature Baby has a store in Grey Lynn. Otherwise over the web is fine. I have done both and no problems either way. They are actually cheaper than the plastic bottles believe it or not. I love ours!!! The only advise I can offer though is to get the clear silicon teats. Sam won't have a bar of the natural rubber ones!!!
Oh, and I saw the 3 pack for sale yesterday in the Baby Factory in Takapuna too :) ------------- http://lilypie.com"> 
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Posted By: emz
Date Posted: 21 May 2008 at 10:24pm
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I know its a personal thing, but I've done a lot of research on the plastic thing, and the percentage that fully FF babies could get is 5-10% of the safe limit per day. Adults in their everyday lives get about 10% so we're all getting it. And it hasn't been proven to do anything in humans, only in labrats who are known to get cancer from anything injected as they inject amounts that a human could consume into a rat that can't process it IYKWIM.
Plus, its not just heating in the microwave for plastic bottles, its even putting warm breastmilk or hot water in. If you do buy glass bottles, be very careful. The recommendations brought out in NZ is for people to carry on the same way as glass bottles are actually more of a danger than any perceived danger the leeching could cause. |
Posted By: emz
Date Posted: 21 May 2008 at 10:25pm
Ok, that wasn't meant to sound like a rant, just thought someone reading it might find it useful as I've spent countless days researching this since it's all come to a head. (And I'm continuing to use my Avent bottles) Anyway, each to their own. I do know that there was a thing on the news about most online places having a waiting list for the evenflo ones 
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Posted By: TysMummy
Date Posted: 22 May 2008 at 7:42am
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Hey emz good point but that isnt wat there saying about the plastic (at the moment) yes cancer is one but there saying about the dederatation of them especially the ones made in hong kong as these are made of different plastic (not safe) so the more you heat them the more they weakon etc ------------- http://lilypie.com"> http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: Mama2two
Date Posted: 22 May 2008 at 7:57am
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We researched this to death when we heard about the news article. For us it was more the small chance that this could be doing some danger to Sam. When I was at nature baby buying the last 2 glass bottles the women and I were talking about it and she said something very profound, which totally made the whole point. This whole plastic thing may be blown all out of proportion but... am i willing to bet my childs life on it
My MIL works at a baby shop and they had a statement from Avent stating that they would not be doing anything about it in NZ as the laws don't require it, this to me was appalling. Also that two countries have now banned the use of these plastic bottles. With the history of cancers in mine and my DH's families this topic hits a little too close to home - so we have decided to go with the glass. ------------- http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: kebakat
Date Posted: 22 May 2008 at 8:05am
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I thought you guys might find this useful.. its a list of BPA free bottles.. so you don't HAVE to have glass if you ant BPA free bottles..
http://safemama.com/2007/11/22/bpa-free-bottle-and-sippy-cup-cheat-sheet/ - linky |
Posted By: scarecrowfarm
Date Posted: 22 May 2008 at 10:03am
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I hope you don't mind me posting here, but you did want to know where to get bottles from.
We've just got the Adiri Natural Nursers in and they're a BCP free bottle. I got to see them yesterday for the first time and they're a neat looking bottle. ------------- Robyn www.scarecrowfarm.co.nz |
Posted By: ElfsMum
Date Posted: 22 May 2008 at 10:28am
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i truly dont want to argue about this:) but... this statement has been around for at least a year... and only now have they said this..my Mum showed it to me in the paper when i was pregnant (early on)as well if there is a minute chance it's harming babies why would NZ allow it at all..that makes no sense to me?so if it's proven why don't they ban them:(
.. I'm not sure what we will do..glass bottles are really not my ideal..esp as he gets older.. but my ones (Tommee Tippee) are not on that list.. of course I don't want to endanger my child but I'm hearing reports that say completely opposite things:( ------------- Mum to two amazing boys! |
Posted By: scarecrowfarm
Date Posted: 22 May 2008 at 10:34am
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To be honest I would think the reason they haven't banned them is simply because there hasn't been an alternative. Glass bottles don't work for everyone.
The Adiri Bottle has only just made it into the country. We've been waiting for them since July last year, and goodness knows what sort of volumes they've been able to bring in as it's been really hard for international retailers to source them due to demand being so high. Looking at Stacey's list of suitable bottles I'm not sure how many are actually in New Zealand. So in all practicality, it's a bit hard to ban something before a suitable replacement is out there. ------------- Robyn www.scarecrowfarm.co.nz |
Posted By: ElfsMum
Date Posted: 22 May 2008 at 10:40am
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yes i guess thats true but they should hurry it up then..I've never heard of those bottles....where do you get them and how much? ------------- Mum to two amazing boys! |
Posted By: cuppatea
Date Posted: 22 May 2008 at 10:41am
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Personally we have purchased some glass ones, better safe than sorry.
Medela are on that list and they are widely available in nz as their breastpumps etc are sold here. ------------- 
 
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Posted By: ElfsMum
Date Posted: 22 May 2008 at 10:44am
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oh i bought some medula bottle to go with the breast pump..why did you buy glass and not go with the medela cuppatea? ------------- Mum to two amazing boys! |
Posted By: cuppatea
Date Posted: 22 May 2008 at 10:45am
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I only just saw the list and I ordered the glass ones a couple of weeks ago. -------------
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Posted By: ElfsMum
Date Posted: 22 May 2008 at 10:47am
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where did you order them from and how much?i really think glass arent safe(due to having seen several children with them) but not much other choice:( most of the stuff i read said bottles still ok but the latest stuff not so good(like that one posted b4):( ------------- Mum to two amazing boys! |
Posted By: ElfsMum
Date Posted: 22 May 2008 at 10:49am
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i never thought about his dummy as well:( dont recognise much on that list:( ------------- Mum to two amazing boys! |
Posted By: cuppatea
Date Posted: 22 May 2008 at 10:57am
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I got them from natures baby and i think they were about $7 each. You could always go the medela route if you don't like the idea of glass.
Would his dummy have that stuff in it? -------------
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Posted By: ElfsMum
Date Posted: 22 May 2008 at 11:00am
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dunno.. ? i dont know much about dummies..but on that list on the side it said BPA free pacifiers so i assume the rest are as the bottles..either arent safe or they arent sure.. I'm sorry to be a dick but I've never heard of natures baby..would i need a credit card:( ------------- Mum to two amazing boys! |
Posted By: cuppatea
Date Posted: 22 May 2008 at 11:03am
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No I think they had a few different ways of paying. With most internet sites you can normally phone and arrange to pay by cheque if necessary anyway. Yeah I wouldn't have thought about dummies either -------------
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Posted By: ElfsMum
Date Posted: 22 May 2008 at 11:05am
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so what is the website? ------------- Mum to two amazing boys! |
Posted By: cuppatea
Date Posted: 22 May 2008 at 11:08am
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www.naturebaby.co.nz -------------
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Posted By: scarecrowfarm
Date Posted: 22 May 2008 at 11:17am
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We have Adiri bottles. Believe me the NZ Distributor has been trying to get these through for months. The problem was that the US demand for them far outstripped the supply on their first order. They had to do a whole new delivery and again the US demand won out. That's why it's taken forever to get them here. The manufacturers just can't keep up with it right now. ------------- Robyn www.scarecrowfarm.co.nz |
Posted By: ElfsMum
Date Posted: 22 May 2008 at 11:18am
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thankyou if i bought glass bottles how do you steralise them? ------------- Mum to two amazing boys! |
Posted By: ElfsMum
Date Posted: 22 May 2008 at 11:21am
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i cant find any medela bottles that arent just the breastmilk ones .. what about teats?:) what is different about the Adiri ones?
never mind found teats.they only hold 150mls though so no good:( ------------- Mum to two amazing boys! |
Posted By: emz
Date Posted: 22 May 2008 at 11:26am
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I'm pretty sure dummies are classed as safe as they're silicone (just like the teats) not plastic.
I think most of this is the media trying to scaremonger. If it was a serious threat, the govt (health authority) wouldn't have released a statement about them being perfectly safe to store infant food in. Also, some formula tins, drink bottles, ready-to-eat meal containers, sauce bottles etc contain BPA. So if you're really worried about it you should research that and cut all of that stuff out too. Apparently (according to the research) even some cans of food contain it as during the production process it is used with the tin to create the can. So basically you would need to grow/kill your own food to be completely out of harms way. But then there's also oranges, coke etc etc that are worse than the threat mentioned here *apparently* yet we still consume those? KA - I think you put the glass bottles in boiling water to sterilise. But Ethan's old enough now anyway that you could just pour boiling water over them if you were worried. Otherwise just wash them. |
Posted By: ElfsMum
Date Posted: 22 May 2008 at 11:30am
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that website only accepts credit card:(
We accept Visa and MasterCard only. Credit Card details are collected using a SSL secured server. thanks Emz bout the dummies.. yes i know bout the container thats why its worse for him because of the tin his stuff comes in..on that link it said some babies getting up to 13 whatevers its measured in which is higher than i thought:( different for us as we can get rid of toxins they can't:( i was like you but now I'm not so sure:( ok about steralising..yeha i will be steralising till he starts putting everything in his mouth.. ------------- Mum to two amazing boys! |
Posted By: cuppatea
Date Posted: 22 May 2008 at 11:31am
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I can understand what you are saying Emz and at the moment we are still using the plastic bottles but remember it wasn't that long ago that tabacco was advertised as being beneficial to health and that they were saying that absestos was ok. The uk government for years said that the beef was ok but it wasn't and eventually they admitted to it. I am extremely skeptical whenever the gov says something is safe. I know the canadians and americans were only concerned about the exposure to infants and not to the general population I guess because they are still so small and so much development is going on that the effect could be much worse. -------------
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Posted By: cuppatea
Date Posted: 22 May 2008 at 11:33am
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I think you have to boil the glass ones as they can't go in the microwave.
I would phone naturebaby and see if you can arrange another way to pay them like bank transfer or something. -------------
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Posted By: emz
Date Posted: 22 May 2008 at 11:34am
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Yeah fair enough cuppatea. I guess I just have a pretty lax attitude when things haven't been proven. I kind of figure what sort of environment I grew up in where pretty much everything was OK and I turned out fine. But anyone that knows me knows I'm pretty cruisy with this sort of stuff once I've done my research and made my decision.
KA - could you get your parents to get it for you if they have a CC? And then you can pay them back? |
Posted By: emz
Date Posted: 22 May 2008 at 11:36am
I second that. I'm sure if you rang them and arranged payment first, they should be fine with it? Strange that some places expect everyone has a CC 
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Posted By: ElfsMum
Date Posted: 22 May 2008 at 11:36am
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mum wont use hers online...:( ------------- Mum to two amazing boys! |
Posted By: ElfsMum
Date Posted: 22 May 2008 at 11:37am
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nah its ok I'm too much of a wimp to do that stuff very embarrassing..will sort something out.. ------------- Mum to two amazing boys! |
Posted By: scarecrowfarm
Date Posted: 22 May 2008 at 11:43am
They're a heap different from other bottles. See www.adiri.com and you'll see what I mean as even the look is quite different. They're a soft bottle so they're more like a breast than anything else that is available. They won't break like glass, and they're polycarbonate and BPA free. They hold 8oz (236 ml). My daughter trialled it last night. She's never been a bit bottle fan, though that seems to be changing lately and she was quite happy to give it her seal of approval. I'm curious as to what she would have thought of it as a wee baby. ------------- Robyn www.scarecrowfarm.co.nz |
foxxy_one wrote:Posted By: ElfsMum
Date Posted: 22 May 2008 at 11:48am
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:) looking now:)sounds like what i am looking for.. will pm you ------------- Mum to two amazing boys! |
Posted By: kebakat
Date Posted: 22 May 2008 at 12:22pm
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I refuse to use glass bottles. They are such a safety risk IMO. Daniel likes feeding himself and then when hes done he will play with his bottle and gets sh*tty as if you don't let him. I can see him taking his bottle and bashing it against something and smashing it.. no way will I risk that!
We had the avent via system (which is very cheap when I got them!) from when I was expressing so I just dug these out of our garage and are using them. |
Posted By: TysMummy
Date Posted: 22 May 2008 at 1:21pm
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so back to the original question......im guessing the answer is no to knowing a shop that sells them?! ------------- http://lilypie.com"> http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: ElfsMum
Date Posted: 22 May 2008 at 2:02pm
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so far have only found online shops ... ------------- Mum to two amazing boys! |
Posted By: Mama2two
Date Posted: 22 May 2008 at 5:16pm
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Tys Mummy, I saw them at the baby factory in Auckland so I would suggest you try your local baby factory and if they don't have them in stock they should be able to get some in for you ------------- http://lilypie.com">
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