Do you blame the government...
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Topic: Do you blame the government...
Posted By: Maya
Subject: Do you blame the government...
Date Posted: 08 June 2008 at 6:35pm
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For rising petrol and grocery costs?
I'm just watching 3 News and there is a segment about why Labour is down in the polls and why people are voting against them, and a few people have said it's coz the cost of living has gotten so expensive. But is that really the government's fault? It's not just a NZ thing, it's happening overseas as well. What do y'all think? -------------  Maya Grace (28/02/03)
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Posted By: mummy_becks
Date Posted: 08 June 2008 at 6:37pm
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Nope I don't think it is as it is a worldwide thing and all different countries have all different governments. ------------- I was a puree feeder, forward facing, cot sleeping, pram pushing kind of Mum... and my kids survived! |
Posted By: pepsi
Date Posted: 08 June 2008 at 6:39pm
| Yes. The government also made me fat. Damn them! |
Posted By: ShellandBella
Date Posted: 08 June 2008 at 6:50pm
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I don't think so. People are pretty quick to blame the government, but things like petrol prices, housing market slumps, grocery prices are worldwide. The problem with THIS government is that they don't seem to want to do much to help the average NZer. Whether another party will be any better is yet to be seen, but I have my doubts. Its really a bad time for old Helen to be trying to win the voters as public confidence is WAY down... ------------- http://lilypie.com"> 
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Posted By: kebakat
Date Posted: 08 June 2008 at 6:55pm
| No but they could do more to help people. Instead of spending millions on buying back a railroad which requires millions again in fixing it up they could have put that money to better use. |
Posted By: lizzle
Date Posted: 08 June 2008 at 7:03pm
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no - in the sunday star times it had an interesting article about the cost of living in Aus. MUCH more than NZ even when you take into account the dollar difference.
I think the gove3rnment does heaps to help people actually. i also think the average NZer (myself inclouded) is up to their eyeballs in debt - hps, loans etc, so there is very little "wiggle room" when something like rising interest rates happens. The banks tend to allow us to borrow heaps and then we find we can't afford to pay it back...I'll shut up now |
Posted By: LJsmum
Date Posted: 08 June 2008 at 7:05pm
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No. But i think they could do more to help out the average working family I agree with Stacey why buy the railway back? -------------  
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Posted By: popcorn
Date Posted: 08 June 2008 at 7:05pm
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we have just been talking about this, we dont blame labour and were quite suprised they did such a negative article on them, i didnt really think it was fair to be honest and i am so not their biggest fan! It seems like whoever gives us the most $ will win, desperate times ------------- http://lilypie.com"> 
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Posted By: yummymummy
Date Posted: 08 June 2008 at 7:09pm
What Stacey said. I think the government has wasted a lot of taxpayer money and, for far too long, ignored the fact that the average NZers are suffering  ------------- http://lilypie.com">  http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: popcorn
Date Posted: 08 June 2008 at 7:12pm
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yeah that was just crazy, somethings got to be done to stop mums being forced back into working full time just to get by ------------- http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: linda
Date Posted: 08 June 2008 at 7:32pm
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No...although considering the taxes on petrol they could look at reducing that slightly as they will be getting more as the cost per litre is so much more expensive.
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Posted By: busymum
Date Posted: 08 June 2008 at 7:53pm
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I'm not sure. Obviously petrol is outside of our control but I can't say I'm too impressed with them rising interest rates all the time. I was pleased with the WFF tax credits that came in, but, I dunno. I don't have much confidence in Labour anyhow as they keep making laws that the average NZer doesn't want - but they make them anyway.
I think the govt should have done a heaps better job on the budget that just came out. It really was quite lame and that's a stupid thing in election year. Promises for next year would have been a far cleverer move! ------------- |
Posted By: .Mel
Date Posted: 08 June 2008 at 8:28pm
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I don't think they can be blamed for a world wide problem. I do agree that they could do more to help us out with the problems. It's all a domino effect, and it's being felt everywhere.
------------- Mr Mellow (16) Miss Attitude (8) Destructa Kid (3) 
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Posted By: Bobbie
Date Posted: 08 June 2008 at 8:55pm
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It's definitely a global problem - not a local government one.
I think the government has done a pretty good job with the welfare measures for NZer's and I find it sad that people are saying National will get in simply because people 'want a change'. I have yet to even hear a National policy. -------------  
 
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Posted By: mummyofprinces
Date Posted: 08 June 2008 at 9:03pm
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Petrol prices I blame on the USA...
Cost of living, the reserve bank. Though as a way of combatting the nations over spending. There is a huge spending culture here, very consumer driven. The reserve bank put the interest rates up to slow down the spending, now the property market has softened and living expenses have gone up... people are slowly starting to stop spending on luxuries because they can not afford it. Eventually the the rates will come down, the salaries will go up and the cycle will start again. Not sure what a new government will do. Perhaps limit the amount of overseas investment to keep those interest rates down??? My opinion of course. -------------   
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Posted By: Bubbaloo
Date Posted: 08 June 2008 at 9:40pm
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No don't blame I think the polls are just people wanting a change like Melnel said I blame America for the petrol prices at least. ------------- http://lilypie.com" rel="nofollow">  Was danni-chick Mum to James My Angel 28/07/08 |
Posted By: AliaDawn
Date Posted: 08 June 2008 at 10:15pm
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I think alot of people take "luxuries" as "necessities" Though I think families less than single people in general, and I blame businesses/advertising for creating that mindset. Nobody in new zealand can't afford to live, so I am not complaining. We don't have a car and get on just fine, so petrol doesn't affect us. -------------  
 
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Posted By: Jay_R
Date Posted: 09 June 2008 at 9:25am
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Yeah, petrol prices - the USA. Or, actually, George Bush. Him and his imaginary "weapons of mass destruction". What a joke. All he really wanted was to get control of the oil in Iraq, and look what happened. He totally farked it up for the rest of the world.
Rising costs of everything, well that really comes back to the petrol prices being so high, everything else needs to go up as well for suppliers to make any money. Have to ask though, busymum what laws are you referring to that Labour keep bringing in that the "average" New Zealander doesn't want? |
Posted By: kebakat
Date Posted: 09 June 2008 at 10:17am
hehe so true. I think they are keeping close lipped on everything because they are doing so well in the polls and if they release what their policies are too soon then Labour will pounce on the effects of their policies and they will go down in the polls. |
Bobbie wrote:Posted By: mummy_becks
Date Posted: 09 June 2008 at 10:26am
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I haven't either, but last night on TV1 news John Key said they had already released 14 policies ------------- I was a puree feeder, forward facing, cot sleeping, pram pushing kind of Mum... and my kids survived! |
Posted By: BessieBear
Date Posted: 09 June 2008 at 10:44am
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omg money don't you just hate it when i get thinking it annoys me i get money from my employer for working my butt off he gets money from me making sandwhiches ppl that buy them get money either by working or off the government the government gets money from my tax which i worked hard to get.......... ------------- Sarah Mum to, Boy 07/2008, Girl 03/2010, Boy 05/2012, Angel 07/08/2014
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Posted By: kebakat
Date Posted: 09 June 2008 at 10:54am
lol.. that's him saying 'no she got it wrong" to the MP who said they weren't going to do something to do with kiwi saver. And another is saying we will beat labours tax cuts. And the rest is him saying no or yes to things but not giving any info about them. |
Posted By: mummy_becks
Date Posted: 09 June 2008 at 10:57am
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So true, I haven't heard any policies of these yet. I just thought it was strange him saying but we have released 14 policies. I wonder if they are on their website. ------------- I was a puree feeder, forward facing, cot sleeping, pram pushing kind of Mum... and my kids survived! |
Posted By: Jay_R
Date Posted: 09 June 2008 at 11:01am
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Well said Stacey!
Personally, I am finding it really hard to even find one single policy that National has. All they seem able to do is tell us they'll not be doing what Labour is doing, or they'll do it bigger and better. Can he not get his party to actually get some real policies out there? Oh, thats right... they don't have any! |
Posted By: Genie
Date Posted: 09 June 2008 at 11:07am
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I was also dismayed to see people taking the current situation out on labour, saying things like we need a change cos families are finding it hard to make ends meet...do these people not realise that national are for the business/employer and will only make things worse for families? ------------- 
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Posted By: MrsMojo
Date Posted: 09 June 2008 at 11:30am
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I don't blame the current world food and petrol crisis on the little ole NZ government either and I think those that do need to sit down and think about it a bit more carefully.
EXACTLY! If I wanted the rich to get richer and the poor to get poorer I'd vote National.
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Posted By: cuppatea
Date Posted: 09 June 2008 at 11:35am
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I think in part they are to blame. So ok they can't control the price of petrol as we buy it in from overseas so are held over a barrel on that one but there tax on it is a percentage, if they changed it so a set rate per litre then that would help no end. Don't forget everytime petrol goes up they pocket more in tax, why do they need that extra money? they don't, they didn't have it last year, they didn't have it 4 years ago when I moved here and petrol was a $1.14 a litre. Changing their levies on petrol would also have a knock on effect with the price of food as distrubition costs would be less and in turn would help the whole economy.
Having said that I think not voting for labour because of it would be a big mistake. In the grand scheme of things new zealand is doing pretty well, if national get in they will just f**k the country sideways and then in three years labour will get voted back in to clean up the mess. ------------- 
 
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Posted By: james
Date Posted: 09 June 2008 at 1:01pm
just what i was thinking ------------- <a href="http://lilypie.com"><img src="http://b4.lilypie.com/nLJ5p13.png" alt="Lilypie 4th Birthday Ticker" border="0" /></a> |
Posted By: RBsMama
Date Posted: 09 June 2008 at 2:34pm
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Hear hear Cuppatea! What you said! National is all for the business/farming etc. Families won't get a look in. ------------- http://lilypie.com" rel="nofollow">  http://lilypie.com" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: caliandjack
Date Posted: 09 June 2008 at 6:05pm
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NO they aren't to blame, and Labour as a socialist goverment has done a lot to help people. WFF, interest fee student loan, kiwisaver gave everyone who signed up $1000.
I do think they could have made tax cuts sooner, when we had a large surplus not wait until the economy is slowing. And I think something could be done about the cost of dairy products, Fonterra is a monopoly in this country and steps should be put in place to make milk, butter and cheese more economical. ------------- http://lilypie.com" rel="nofollow">   [/url] Angel June 2012 |
Posted By: kiwigal
Date Posted: 09 June 2008 at 6:54pm
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They need to put more money into our education |
My son is special needs and he is damn lucky that he got the ORRS funding as there is some kids out there that don't get kind of funding at all or enough support from a teacher aide. The speech therapists don't get paid enough so a lot of them move on and go private. This is where the money should be sent Posted By: Bobbie
Date Posted: 09 June 2008 at 8:10pm
I agree - and let's not forget the free under 5's doctor's visits. Ok so where I am it costs a $16 surcharge but it would be much more if it wasn't for this policy. I don't have a problem with people supporting other parties but it does annoy me when they sl*g off about Labour while signing all and sundry up for kiwisaver, paying next to nothing for their kids to go to the doctor etc. etc. -------------
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Posted By: Jennz
Date Posted: 09 June 2008 at 10:53pm
LOL! I love it 
No I don't blame the government- I would say those people who made those comments aren't terribly educated on what the government actually does. Or what is happening in the rest of the world. What needs to happen is for more pressure to be put on car companies (and stupid oil companies) who own therights to technology for cars that run on alternative fuels. Its ridiculous that the vast majority of cars still being produced have giant engines- if you want a family car (5+ seat 4-5door etc) its pretty hard to find one thats any less than a 2000cc which is insane. Car companies are releasing new 'family' cars for 2009 which have 3-4L engines! If you manage to blimmin buy one of the monsters theres no way a family can afford to run the things! It soooo gets on my nerves. A scientist will invent a car that runs on hydrogen etc and the oil companies will offer them millions for the technology patent then bury it so it eliminates the potential for competition. Sorry for the irrelevant tangent  ------------- Jen, Charlotte 7 & Kate 3 
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