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Topic: Grrr, bad parents!
Posted By: Brenna
Subject: Grrr, bad parents!
Date Posted: 14 June 2008 at 6:46pm
I was at the shops today and outside the bakery was a family with about 4 kids (youngest was probably a baby about 1). One of the other kids started giving the baby a drink of V and the parents just stood their watching! I can't believe there are such idiots out there!!! That poor baby!



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Posted By: Maya
Date Posted: 14 June 2008 at 7:09pm
I have a friend who used to give her baby Mountain Dew from a baby bottle when he was about a year old

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Posted By: cuppatea
Date Posted: 14 June 2008 at 7:13pm
Good Lord, me and DH were shocked when I guy I worked with gave his 7 year old V, let alone a one year old.
I wonder if that baby sleeps through

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Posted By: LJsmum
Date Posted: 14 June 2008 at 7:13pm
I was shopping today and saw a lady trying to give a tiny baby girl must have been around 3 or 4 months old a bottle of red cordial - maybe ribena ?

Crazy

Poor baby she was screaming, no wonder!!

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Posted By: Jennz
Date Posted: 14 June 2008 at 7:51pm


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Posted By: Jay_R
Date Posted: 14 June 2008 at 8:15pm
When Joshua was in the baby room at daycare we used to have to send along bottles and put them all in a special fridge. One of the babies frequently had chocolate or banana milk in her bottles.

The teachers used to hiff it and replace it with standard milk.....


Posted By: lizzle
Date Posted: 14 June 2008 at 8:25pm
My FIL used to try and give Jake coke when he was 6 weeks. my MIL went nuts at him....and then asked me to tell FIL that Jake had a dairy allergy as she later caught FIL trying to feed him a banana smoothie.


Posted By: busymum
Date Posted: 14 June 2008 at 8:34pm
Originally posted by joshierocks joshierocks wrote:

The teachers used to hiff it and replace it with standard milk.....


Eeep! The danger in that is that if they were ever to query whether he had a prob with flavoured (sweetened) milk, they would look back on his daycare days and figure he didn't have a problem (obviously cause he wasn't drinking it). Tricky situation!

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Posted By: Jay_R
Date Posted: 14 June 2008 at 8:50pm
No, there was no problem, as there was flavoured milk some days and standard milk others. Just dependended on what the mother had in her fridge on the day.

ETA: She stopped doing it after the director of the centre had a word to her about sending the flavoured stuff.


Posted By: Kelpa
Date Posted: 14 June 2008 at 8:53pm
People are nuts.

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Posted By: FionaS
Date Posted: 14 June 2008 at 9:07pm
And here was me feeling guilty that Elle ate a couple of Poppa Jacks yesterday!

Poor kid! Soft drinks, especially dangerous ones like that should not be given to kids, it's just common sense.

I suppose on some level those parents think they are being kind by giving their kids those "treats". I know I found myself feeling "sorry" for Elle when we were trialling no gluten and she couldn't have biscuits and yet in reality bicuits are far from essential to a kids happiness. It is us as parent who condition our kids to thinking that those things are special and desirable. I guess it depends on how we think...we are all so different so what seems horrendous to one parent seems kind to another. Sigh.

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Posted By: Shezamumof3
Date Posted: 14 June 2008 at 9:09pm
Urghh thats so bad!!!! even I dont drink that crap!

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Posted By: FionaS
Date Posted: 14 June 2008 at 9:13pm
Thinking on this some more, my sister was blind and disabled and lived in an IHC home.   The part of her brain that signalled that she was full didn't work and she had been conditioned by the staff to want chips, pies etc.   She had major nutritional deficiencies in her later years and needed high quality foods and yet the staff TRUELY, truely felt they were being kind by giving her those junk food items. In reality, it was cruel as she would pack on the pounds and yet still have the nutritional deficiencies.

Although we know that these types of foods are bad we can not assume that all people have that level of understanding. What seems common sense to one person, will never even have occured to another. I know it sounds hard to believe but from my experience, through my sister, it is true.

Mind you, there are some people who have all the knowledge but choose to be negligent....

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Posted By: mummyofprinces
Date Posted: 14 June 2008 at 9:21pm
I cant believe the number of kids I see walking around with V's or Red bull. Coke is bad enough, but geez dont they have something like 3 times the caffiene, couldnt that give a 1 yr old heart palpitations?

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Posted By: Natalie_G
Date Posted: 14 June 2008 at 9:34pm
Thats horrible all these stories, a lot of people will blame the rising cost of milk etc for giving there kids soft drinks, I will not give my young child soft drinks so early.

The one thing I find annoying when at the shops is when some parents just let their kids run around the store screaming and the parents do nothing, ive nearly seen older people hit etc. That is what really annoys me.

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Posted By: marielb
Date Posted: 14 June 2008 at 9:39pm
My boys are allowed water and milk ...... thats it!

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Posted By: marielb
Date Posted: 14 June 2008 at 9:39pm
No child, let alone adults need those addictive, high sugar drinks!!

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Posted By: PippaLockysMummy
Date Posted: 14 June 2008 at 11:34pm
I remember when me and dp were in a food court we saw a mother feeding her young baby (probably about 4/5mths old) butter chicken!! we were like wtf!!! some people aye

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Posted By: caitlynsmygirl
Date Posted: 14 June 2008 at 11:47pm
The amount of kids that come into my work for fillings (sorry before i continue i mean under 5) and when we ask what kind of diet they have "but they only have one glass of coke a day "..wellllllll

I would like to say Caitlyn only drinks water,but unfortunatly, she loves orange juice, but she knows that she has to have a lot more water than juice a day , and the juice has to be watered down .


Posted By: NovemberMum
Date Posted: 15 June 2008 at 12:44am
Originally posted by PippaLockysMummy PippaLockysMummy wrote:

I remember when me and dp were in a food court we saw a mother feeding her young baby (probably about 4/5mths old) butter chicken!! we were like wtf!!! some people aye



that is terrible the poor babies stomach would not be able to handle it...It wouldn't have surprised me if the poor baby had diarrhea :(

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Posted By: Jennz
Date Posted: 15 June 2008 at 2:34am
Grr when people use the 'coke is cheaper than milk' argument it gets on my nerves! Water is cheaper than Coke    And if you really have to pump your kids full of sugar go with Raro!
We're strictly water here- in our house coke is an adults drink, just like beer and wine.

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Posted By: MrsMojo
Date Posted: 15 June 2008 at 7:46am

I can't beleive that parents would be so silly as to let their babies have any type of fizzy drink, esp an energy drink  I wouldn't even drink that crap myself, an apple or a cup of blackcurrant juice is going to give you more energy than a bottle of V.  I suppose it's the power of marketing.

 

I'm never quick to judge though when I see children with interestingly coloured bottles.  Obviously sipping from a V bottle's a given that they're drinking something that's no good for them but someone mentioned a red cordial in a bottle.  If the child had a UTI the parent may have been giving it diluted cranberry juice. 

 

When Michaela was 1 she was anal retentive for several months and on docs advice we had to try everything to induce diaorehha (sp?).  As well as the prescribed laxatives she was given heaps of bottles of all sorts of liquids.  Her brown looking liquid was diluted prune juice and the green one was kiwi crush.  The worst thing is getting accusing stares from ignorant (albeit well-meaning) strangers when you're just trying to help your child who is suffering from an extremely uncomfortable and painful condition.



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Posted By: MissCandice
Date Posted: 15 June 2008 at 7:59am
I was at the foodcourt last week, sitting behind a lady with a 5 month old baby, She was screaming because she was so hungry so the mother started feeding he the egg out of her egg sandwhich.. The baby only got 2 mouthfuls, but she was so hungry she almost ate the spoon!

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Posted By: SMoody
Date Posted: 15 June 2008 at 9:14am
I think I might be one of those bad parents then.

McKayla was given water and diluted juice before a year. And I think her first gassy cooldrink sip was at about 18 months but cant remember.

If we are out and have a gassy cooldrink she can get a sip of ours. If she asks for her own we dilute it to about 1 to 10 with water and she is fine with that.

On her own she prefers booby milk, milk and water and about once a week will ask me for juice. I will say about once every 6 weeks or so she will get a sip or two of gassy cooldrink as we generally dont have it in our house.

We do stuff with her in moderation. I dont want her to be one of these kids that is never allowed it and when they get invited to a party goes totally wild at the cooldrink and sweets table as she is never allowed it.

So me bad parent.

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Posted By: MissCandice
Date Posted: 15 June 2008 at 9:18am
Kylahs tried juice too SMoody. Iv tried giving it to her twice but she wont drink it and screws her face up lol!

The soda stream is noway near as bad as a V.

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Posted By: My3Sons
Date Posted: 15 June 2008 at 9:49am

OK so I certainly wouldnt be giving my 1 year old V! Not going to say my kids havent had fizzy though, yes they do in moderation, we drink it on the weekends and they are allowed a wee bit too.  NOT coke though and nothing red lol.  Not the baby obviously though lol!  And certainly water and milk are the only other choices to drink. Along with that goes the tooth brusing thing, DS has seen all the gorey pics that the dental nurse shows with rotten teeth from fizzy and sugary drinks and they are both good at brushing their teeth.



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Posted By: My3Sons
Date Posted: 15 June 2008 at 9:51am

Originally posted by SMoody SMoody wrote:

We do stuff with her in moderation. I dont want her to be one of these kids that is never allowed it and when they get invited to a party goes totally wild at the cooldrink and sweets table as she is never allowed it.

Yep what she said!!



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Posted By: caitlynsmygirl
Date Posted: 15 June 2008 at 12:18pm
problem is , once you give your child a taste of juice etc, they are more likely to like it, thats what happened with Caitlyn , my friend has only ever given her child water ( and milk) and thats all her child now (whos 5 ) likes , if you offered her juice she would turn it down.


Posted By: SMoody
Date Posted: 15 June 2008 at 12:45pm
I really do think it depends on how you do it. My dad allowed us beer from a small age in a tot glass and I dont like alcahol now at all. Same with McKayla. I prefer my water but we had fizzy drinks as kids. McKayla actually comes and asks for water.

She does ask for stuff sometimes but when you give her an alternative I will say about 80% of the time she goes for the healthy thing. If I take a fruit and she has a sweet in her mouth she spits it out and wants my fruit.

I have seen kids (in our family) that came to M's birthday party that is never allow sweets and literally didnt eat any of the food but went wild as the parents started to allow them at 3. McKayla had exactly 3 sweeties and 2 small pieces of cake (and I do mean like really small.) and she was satisfied and didnt wanted juice but water. These kids were stuffing themselves ect and to me that just leads to unhealthy eating in future.


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Posted By: Snickerdoodle
Date Posted: 15 June 2008 at 1:05pm
Man, us parents really are faced with a lot of decisions, huh?

We were at PIL's last night. MIL offered to cook up some potato and silverbeet to give to Hannah. I said no to silverbeet as she's too young for it. So she said she'd just do potato (after saying she'd be fine, if I allowed silverbeet).
Anyway. She cooked up the potato and put it through the sieve and added BUTTER to it "to make it nice and creamy"
She didn't understand that at 4 months old Hannah's too young for dairy.
"Mark was fine when I gave him butter as a boy..."
SHE'S MY CHILD!

Anyway.
No kid needs sugar. They're hard enough to get to sleep as it is!

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Posted By: Snappy
Date Posted: 15 June 2008 at 4:07pm
my DHs cousin gave her baby/toddler "a cup of tea" in a bottle!!! her exuse was " shes addicted to it now"
the poor child is 5 and has two front rotten teeth

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Posted By: SMoody
Date Posted: 15 June 2008 at 5:45pm
I gave McKayla tea at about 7 month onwards. Redbush (rooibos) tea without sugar and milk and she still drinks it now and then.

Kept her regular and if she showed any sighs of an illness or anything I just gave it to her. It has a lot of good stuff in it without the caffiene. So not all tea's are actually bad and in SA it is quite normal to give tea (without milk and sugar) to babies when they start solids.

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Posted By: Maya
Date Posted: 15 June 2008 at 7:17pm
Maya has lemonade on occasion, maybe once a week, the only time she has juice is when we are out and the rest of the time she has water. She's never been a milk drinker, I think that's a hang over from not being allowed it for the first 3 years of her life.

Gremlins get water, the only time they get juice is at Mainly Music where the juice is actually very watered down colorfree cordial. It's their once-a-week treat.

But Coke, V etc. are no-nos!

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Posted By: caitlynsmygirl
Date Posted: 15 June 2008 at 10:22pm
i love coke.....

sorry ,just talking about it makes me thirsty for it


Posted By: Roksana
Date Posted: 16 June 2008 at 12:05pm
Zaara has Just juice with water....and we gave that to her after 18 months or so I think...may be a bit later. She has milk and water. No fizzy drinks for her.

I was at muffin break and saw two toddlers one a bit older that Zaara and the other may be 14-15 month old. Both were holding those G Drinks (Powerade type drink) green in coolor and drinking out of it. The younger one could hardly hold on too it as it was the biggest bottle.....I pointed it out to DH and he just shook his head.

Kids already have enough energy they dont need extra....Arrrgggg

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Posted By: Bizzy
Date Posted: 18 June 2008 at 11:53am
this has been bugging me for a while.

i dont think giving your kids fizzy drink makes you a bad parent...

it may not be a good parenting choice tho...

a bad parent is one who neglects or mistreats their child on purpose.

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Posted By: NeoshasMummy
Date Posted: 18 June 2008 at 11:57am
I remember having diet coke in a bottle thats how long I have been drinking it and now im a total addict!!

Have not allowed Neosha to have it! At times have offered apple juice watered down 10 to one but now have cut it out all together she really only spilt it on the floor anyway lol.

She can have as much water or milk as she likes DP told me last night she can have as much as whatever she wants when she is a teenager


I am willing to make small exceptions at bday parties and stuff I think thats the time kids deserve to run wild!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Posted By: Roksana
Date Posted: 18 June 2008 at 12:02pm
Deb...I dont think if you were giving them Fizzy drinks (as in coke, sprite etc) every so often and of little quantity its bad parenting...but an energy ( V, G etc) drink bottle full of the drink that the kids cant even pick the bottle up?? Hmm...and also I forgot to mention....that I couldnt see the parents so not sure where they were. The older kids was pushing the younger to a direction but no adult was around...Again its a huge mall where the hell are you?



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Posted By: Bizzy
Date Posted: 18 June 2008 at 12:27pm
oh sorry, so its ok to give them coke with caffeine but not v and only if you are with them?!

and i must be a bad parent then too cause i have been in a mall and let gabriel push toby or his 7 yr old cousin push him and havent been right next to them either and unless you knew i was his mum you would think a parent was there.

i think we need to be careful about such sweeping statements and assuming bad parenting when we dont know all the facts. after all who on here has thought they were being judged for doing something they werent cause some one didnt have all the facts.

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