Junkfood free house
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Topic: Junkfood free house
Posted By: MrsMojo
Subject: Junkfood free house
Date Posted: 16 June 2008 at 1:10pm
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How often does your child or children get junk food?
DH loves S&V chips but he doesn't usually share his chips with DD so that's fine but since MIL moved downstairs at Anzac weekend there has always chippies and lollies in the house and I often come home to find a bowl of chips or a half eaten choc fish on DDs table (no wonder she doesn't eat a proper dinner). It drives me nuts since I strongly believe that kids, esp toddlers, don't need to be given junk food as 'treats' and the more often they're given junk food the less likely they are to consider them as 'treats' and the more likely they are to think of it as everyday food.
I pinned down DH over the weekend and asked him how often he thinkgs our DD gets chippies and/or lollies - he said probably every 2nd day WTF, I think it's shocking that a 2 yo gets chippies and lollies a few times a week but I also think he was being generous in his assessment, I'd say it's more likely she gets them daily (not a huge supply, just a small handful of chips and a few lollies but still since they have no positive nutrional value there's no need for them in her diet at all IMO).
So I have banned lollies and chippies from my house for the next 2 weeks to show DH he doesn't need them and neither does our DD. I cleared out our pantry last night and all contraband has been removed. I've told MIL she's not to give DD lollies or chippies either and if she does I'm totally prepped to go loco.
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Posted By: SMoody
Date Posted: 16 June 2008 at 1:19pm
That is a great idea. I also had huge problems when MIL was here for 6 weeks. She would take McKayla just before lunch for a walk to the shop. Give her crackers and dip (that we do allow about once a month, not every day) plus a sweetie or freaking two. M will not eat lunch (big surprise), go for a nap and wake up really grumpy which means she doesnt want to eat her night meal and then at breakfast M usually eats really well but MIL started giving her toast as well so bread went up for her and I dont allow so much bread.
Dont have a rule about it but everything is in moderation. When we see we consume too much of this we will cut it out totally the next week ect but having other people in your house is sometimes really difficult.
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Posted By: Roksana
Date Posted: 16 June 2008 at 1:23pm
Zaara gets those munchies (tomato salsa) once a week. If she wants snaks she also gets a small pack of rice crakers. She gets chocolate once a week from us but just like you my MIL and my Parents are really bad and spoil her with chocolate. However my parenst give her a few of those small natural jelly chewy thingies but MIL gives her Chocolate. I fight with them but they dont listen.
She gets Nuggets on the weekend but only if we are out and about. Not every weekend.
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Posted By: SMoody
Date Posted: 16 June 2008 at 1:29pm
As for her getting junk. I do make take away type food about once a week but health it up. She has natural sweets (a pack per week) and she gets about 3 dinasours or so per day. When we do our big shop during the month she gets a treat. Might be a small pack of chips or a lollie or a muffin ect.
And we do baking together and she loves banana bread and date bread. But she quite often will drop a sweet out of her mouth and ask for the fruit out of my hand.
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Posted By: Daizy
Date Posted: 16 June 2008 at 1:41pm
I'm not a big fan of junk food myslef so we never have any in the house.(except for the odd bar of Chocolate which I keep hidden in the pantry) She never used to ever have any lollies or chippies and it never botherd her as it wasnt even thought of as something she wanted. Now she older and able to walk to her grandparents by her self its almost impossible keeping her away from junk food as they usually have a packet of chippies sitting open on the coffee table. I have been trying to get my sister to stop giving her stuff but she doesnt listen and doesnt think so she always comes home full of Junk food and wont eat her dinner... grrr. I share your fustration.
We do occasionally let her have sweets but only very special occasions like birthdays. Just latley we have been using sugar free lollies as rewards which she knows she cant eat all the time.
I do have to admit we are quite bad when it comes to McD's. If we are out it is usually easier to just get her a happy meal (its shocking when you see how many McD toys she has) Although I have still never let her have any fizzy drinks.
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Posted By: kebakat
Date Posted: 16 June 2008 at 1:51pm
The only "junk food" (though I don't know if this is really junk food) that Daniel gets is a yummy bikkie with lunch. Usually it's a wafer one which isn't really bad at all. He loves them so I like giving him a treat. But he's never had lollies and I don't intend on giving them to him for the next few years except at birthday parties etc. And if I catch anyone giving him junk I tell them no straight away.
Sometimes we have vege crisps which Daniel also loves but I figure they are better than potato chips and it's not often.
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Posted By: BuzzyBee
Date Posted: 16 June 2008 at 2:08pm
I'm glad this topic has been brought up.
I am fighting a losing battle with my parents over what my child eats!
It's hard enough getting Lucas to eat as it is, he is extremely fussy and often takes one look at something and throws it on the floor. Then enters one of my parents and hands over a handful of chippies or a little square of choc ...or choc bikkie etc etc.
It wasn't until recently that I picked up how often they are actually giving him this stuff when my back is turned, when I've been going out and running errands for Mum etc and she looks after lucas for 10 or so minutes, in that time he's filled up on junk food.
I HATE IT! I've put my foot down and said NO MORE! They just don't listen, but I'm trying my hardest to stick to it this time.
I don't eat th bad stuff infront of him nowadays because he puts his hand out and tries to ask for it & then throws a wobbly if I don't hand any over.
It's bad enough he's probably getting excess amounts of junk & fatty food through my breast milk ...A habit I myself, find hard to break. Damn chocolate addiction!
But in saying all that, I have veges nearly every day & so does Lucas, as well as a reasonably balanced diet with breads ...cheese, cereal. I wish he'd eat meat and fruit though! He won't touch the stuff
Ok I've raved on enough now.
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Posted By: cuppatea
Date Posted: 16 June 2008 at 2:17pm
Spencer has outback crackers as they are the only treat food he can have that he isn't allergic too. He has them maybe once or twice a week and normally after lunch or sometimes packed as part of his afternoon tea for daycare. They aren't actually that bad though as they are organic and don't have much sugar etc in them but are still junkie compared to veges etc.
The only other junkie type thing he has is casava crisps and those he has a few of everyday, again normally after lunch/dinner, or a few when we are out as they are a really handy finger food for out and about as they don't make much mess.
He hasn't had lollies or potato crisps or fizzy drinks, he has had some watered down juice though when I was trying to get him to take his sippy cup but now he justs has water in it.
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Posted By: Kelpa
Date Posted: 16 June 2008 at 2:23pm
Hmmm everything in moderation in our house..sometimes go through Comfort food times other times all healthy.......pretty lax about it all these days and dont let it stress me out like it did when Paige was young.....
altho one thing we NEVER EVER have as I just call it dead food and we all feel yuck after eating it..it even looks like it is DEAD...is Fish and Chips. LOL
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Posted By: BuzzyBee
Date Posted: 16 June 2008 at 2:24pm
Oh and fizzy drinks I'll never let him near unless at a party etc. And juice I water down so that it's barely any colour or I just give him the baby juices. No lollies or candy.
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Posted By: MrsMojo
Date Posted: 16 June 2008 at 2:38pm
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Oh man, I hadn't even thought about takeaways! I never eat them so it didn't cross my mind but MIL does buy McDonalds and other fast food a couple of times a week and usually brings home chips and stuff for DH & Michaela. Will have to add fast food takeaways to the banned substances list.
It's interesting that heaps of people have mentioned crackers as being junk food. I actually never thought of them as such - we only have the rice crackers, corn thins and rice wafers in my house though so I guess compared to many cracker types they are actually healthy.
Steph, when I told MIL that she wasn't allowed to give Michaela any treats anymore she started going on about "...when my kids were growing up blah blah blah..." and I just said "did you let your kids have chippies and lollies?" "no" "well then you can understand why I don't want mine to have them".
It's hard when they live in the same house as you. When MIL only visited a couple of times a week it wasn't so bad, there's only so much junk she could supply in such a short space of time but now she visits a few times a day and looks after Michaela in the afternoons I have to be really staunch.
I'm fairly healthy so when I told DH that we were giving up junk food for 2 weeks he said "but what are you giving up?" lol, I did put my dark chocolate buttons, which I normally hide in the pantry with the baking ingredients, into the contraband box.
I've allowed DH bikkies, but mostly because I know Michaela won't eat biscuits (she'll have a bite then discard them) though she loves to eat the dough when we bake them . If I think they're a problem though they'll be gotten rid of too.
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Posted By: FionaS
Date Posted: 16 June 2008 at 2:55pm
Elle has one biscuit a day, those kids rice wheels (no preservatives, colourings etc) and rice crackers . She had her first ever taste of chips last week . She has never had fizz or lollies.
I think a biscuit a day, some crackers, milo and the odd bit of juice is fine and don't feel at all guilty about those things. She also has hot chips once a week and although I'd rather it was less at least she is getting some bulk as she is a very picky eater.
I have been forced to change my mind of what she can/can't eat because she is so picky. She won't eat most fruit or vege, despite being offered them EVERY SINGLE day for a year. I keep offering but can't do more than that.
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Posted By: SMoody
Date Posted: 16 June 2008 at 3:04pm
I consider crackers as bad food if it takes the place of a healthy lunch. Not bad for a snack as one to 5 of them with a veggie dip but not a whole pack with an unhealthy dip for lunch instead of the childs actual meal.
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Posted By: CuriousG
Date Posted: 16 June 2008 at 3:59pm
Reading through this I realise that DH eats a stack of "junk" food that I really didn't consider junk food at all!
Its funny tho, we have never actually stopped her from having much and watching her with some other kids we know and spend a lot of time with who don't get chippies/sugar very often, you give them something like chippies and they go bananas for them then hypo as whereas DH will have 1 or 2 then carry on with whatever she was doing.
On saying that tho, she is an excellent eater!
The only thing we don't give her are M&M's, Skittles and Coke. The colouring in the first two and the coke itself really affects her attitude. She never used to be like that with Coke but in the last few months, its getting worse so its either water or watered down Ribena or V8 Vege Juice in our house.
And my Mum is a real stickler for heathy food. Its MIL that I need to watch as well!!!!
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Posted By: MissCandice
Date Posted: 16 June 2008 at 4:56pm
Crap. I give Kylah crackers daily. She wont touch fruit? How do i get her to eat it?
She doesnt like juice, and she wont be getting fizzy.
My mum is quite like yours steph, keeps saying im being mean by not letting her eat mcdonalds chips and chocolate biscuits, and not giving her juice.. Then i hear the comment 'wait till im looking after you bubba, we will have treats and mummy wont know' GRRR
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Posted By: SMoody
Date Posted: 16 June 2008 at 5:48pm
KylahsMum wrote:
Crap. I give Kylah crackers daily. She wont touch fruit? How do i get her to eat it?
She doesnt like juice, and she wont be getting fizzy.
My mum is quite like yours steph, keeps saying im being mean by not letting her eat mcdonalds chips and chocolate biscuits, and not giving her juice.. Then i hear the comment 'wait till im looking after you bubba, we will have treats and mummy wont know' GRRR  |
I dont consider crackers bad as such but I do if MIL allows her to eat a whole pack and it influence what she eats the rest of the day and dont eat the food she actually do need in her system to grow up.
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Posted By: MissCandice
Date Posted: 16 June 2008 at 6:11pm
Oh, kylah gets around 3 rice crackers..
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Posted By: SMoody
Date Posted: 16 June 2008 at 6:26pm
rice crackers are totally fine. M has that more than once a month. I am talking salti crackers ect. Full of salt which effects her drinking and other food intake.
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Posted By: MrsMojo
Date Posted: 16 June 2008 at 6:41pm
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I don't think crackers are bad. In fact they're often used as an alternative to bread at lunchtime.
Michaela has always been a pretty good eater and I don't mind her having a few treats every now and then I'm just trying to curb the habit of giving her treats everyday in place of real food because recently she's stopped eating a decent lunch and dinner.
Funny tho, MIL now looks after her in the afternoons. I got home this afternoon and asked how it was with the new healthy food plan, MIL's response "good, not a problem at all, she just had an iceblock instead" At least they're home made iceblocks (made with OJ and water) so not too bad in the scheme of things but next batch I make I'll water them down a bit more.
She had a really good dinner tonight and ate heaps so I'm pleased.
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Posted By: cuppatea
Date Posted: 16 June 2008 at 7:01pm
I give Spencer rice crackers, I don't consider them junk.
Kandice, have you tried dried fruits. Raisins, sultanas, craisins (which are cranberrys) and sunsweet do mango and pineapple peices that don't have any preservatives. Also I find with Spencer he goes through stages, he used to love grapes but now won't eat them, but he is loving rock melon at the moment.
Also you could just add fruit to other stuff that she does like. Spencer has two cubes of apple/pears in his porridge every morning but won't eat them on their own for some strange reason.
Glad the new regime went well mrsmojo
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Posted By: busymum
Date Posted: 16 June 2008 at 8:13pm
Ok so our girls usually have crackers and fruit for morning tea and biscuit/cake/muffin/more fruit for afternoon tea. I guess some might say that those are junk foods but for us they are an "in moderation" between-meal snack.
Takeaways is about once a month. The odd juice about the same. Fizzy even less.
Chippies and things like that are not so common but probably a couple of times a month.
They often get a lollipop a week (not from us) so I guess that all works out rather well.
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Posted By: FionaS
Date Posted: 16 June 2008 at 9:08pm
Interesting thread. Maybe if I remove snacks Elle would eat dinner. She has not eaten dinner for absolutely weeks and weeks. No veg, no meat. Nothing. She flattly refuses. Maybe if I remove ALL snacks she will be forced to eat dinner. That seems so mean though...
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Posted By: Maya
Date Posted: 16 June 2008 at 9:34pm
Gremlins would waste away if it wasn't for snacks. They eat a heap of fruit so I don't mind too much if they have biscuits or crackers as well. Biscuits are usually either wine, arrowroot or malt biscuits, I buy one packet of hundreds and thousands bickies a fortnight and once they're gone they're gone.
Maya doesn't get chippies etc. in her school lunchbox, she gets those Rice Wheel thingies or the mini packs of rice crackers, fruit, a sandwich, yoghurt, muffins or pikelets and sometimes one of those fruit smash pureed fruit thingies. And she buys her lunch at school on Thurs which is sushi day.
I'm not anal about junk food tho, Willie brings home chips on pay day as a treat and we have takeaways prob once a week, maybe once a fortnight.
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Posted By: Jennz
Date Posted: 16 June 2008 at 10:00pm
Charlotte probably gets crisps once a week. Chocolate or lollies about once a fortnight, if that- we are quite restricted over what she can eat anyway because of her allergies. The only takeaways she can have are either fish and chips or Maccas- F&C are revolting here and Maccas are about a once a month thing.
I don't consider crackers junk food- plain baked crackers with a bit of cheese, tomato and marmite on them always go down well here.
I find if she has anything like lollies she goes absolutely nutty and is really difficult to deal with. She'll often stay up later and that means shes grumpy and over tired the next day. When the ILs are around they like to 'treat' her with lots of lollies- but considering they are bad for her teeth, bad for her health and basically mean she behaves terribly and get told off lots I think they're more of a punishment! You would think that if they care, they would want what is best for them- health wise. Its like they get a kick out of being the ones to give them something nice and treaty- buggar the consequences.
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Posted By: MrsMojo
Date Posted: 16 June 2008 at 10:15pm
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You would think that if they care, they would want what is best for them- health wise. Its like they get a kick out of being the ones to give them something nice and treaty- buggar the consequences. |
Yeah, why is that?
My mum and dad are pretty good and treat Michaela by lending DVDs and buying her books and playing with her but MIL likes to give her lollies and chips.
I think maybe for us it's because MIL loves chippies and lollies herself so she thinks of them as a treat (even though her bad health is slowly killing her and none of us would wish that on Michaela).
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Posted By: Roksana
Date Posted: 17 June 2008 at 10:14am
My MIL has horrible sweet tooth and she wants DD to be the same and then she will say things like "oh well since you guys dont give her any, some one has to...she is a kid" Yah exactly...she is a kid, she doesnt need extra energy!!
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Posted By: missy_girl
Date Posted: 17 June 2008 at 11:41am
I think I'm a little strick on the treats.
As a treat Zoe gets rice crackers with hummus. Or if I'm extra nice mummy she'll have cottage cheese on her rice crackers. On the weekend I allow her to have one plain biscuit.
I don't allow any type of jucie, only water and milk. I know DH sneaks in a bit of watered down apple juice on Sundays.
Once a blue moon she'll have mcd chips or oven fries that I've made myself.
At daycare I think she gets milo everyday. At home I don't allow milo, I just don't think she needs it at 18mths. But I'm not saying that there is anything wrong with it. One of the reasons I dont't allow many treats is I know she has milo at daycare.
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Posted By: missy_girl
Date Posted: 17 June 2008 at 11:42am
I, on the other hand have tons of treats.
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Posted By: NeoshasMummy
Date Posted: 17 June 2008 at 12:25pm
Hmmm we aren't STRICT like we allow those little mini plain bickies for morning snacks but encourage fresh fruit, veg, dried fruit and things. Definately try not to reward Neosha with food though.
My inlaws are always going on to me about how hard I am on her because I dont allow sweets and chocolate and chips and crap to pass her lips but its hard enough to get food into her as it is I would rather it be something full of nutrition!!! They always say well when she is at school you wont be able to stop her blah blah blah I will still teach her good eating habits though! Gosh I walked in one morning to find my nephews having pebbles and timtams for breakfast. SHOCKING
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Posted By: SMoody
Date Posted: 17 June 2008 at 1:00pm
I really dont limit stuff as badly as it sounds. I think those we have saw me at meets have seen McKayla sharing cake with me ect. But I take what she eats over a week and then a month into account and as soon as I see that we eat too much junk or she doesnt eat the healthy food I will just adjust it for a bit and have us all back on track.
I am petrified that she lands up with PCOS as well and I know I cant prevent it if she has to end up getting it but I can try and help her all I can while she is still small. And moderation is key to us.
Once again I dont think crackers are bad but I do think it was bad if she had that instead of lunch and then it affects her dinner as well and then have toast on top of that for breakfast. Just way too much "bread, cracker" type meals in one day for my liking.
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Posted By: Maya
Date Posted: 17 June 2008 at 1:12pm
My Dad learnt his lesson about giving my kids stuff without my permisson when he let Maya lick ice cream off his spoon when she was about 7 mths old. We had told him and told him that she was allergic to dairy but he just didn't get how serious it was. Within a few mins her face was covered in hives and swollen up and that was enough to give my Dad the fright of his life. Since then he's been even more anal than me about what is and isn't safe for them.
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Posted By: MrsMojo
Date Posted: 17 June 2008 at 1:43pm
Oh yes, to be able to go back to the time when Michaela was eating gluten free so I had complete control over her diet. Then again I hope she doesn't have coeliacs it's a pretty inconvenient disease to have to live with.
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Posted By: LeahandJoel
Date Posted: 17 June 2008 at 2:48pm
Posted By: MrsMojo
Date Posted: 20 June 2008 at 5:01pm
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MIL just turned up with a small bag of mcdonalds fries and gave them straight to Michaela. So bad, firstly because this is a junkfood free house atm and secondly because Michaela's due to have dinner in 45 mins.
I confiscated them - mean mummy aye - then quickly shoved together some other bits and pieces for dinner (ham, cucumber, tomatos and cheese) and gave her a small portion of the chips, ate a couple myself and threw the rest of the bag (about 1/2) away.
I don't think I'll ever get it through to her that I don't like junkfood treats. Why doesn't she treat her by taking her to the park?
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Posted By: Jay_R
Date Posted: 20 June 2008 at 5:13pm
Ah Mojo, I'm hearing ya....
My MIL is the same - will give Joshua all sorts of things when he's with her that I wouldn't. DP and I have had discussions about it and came to the decision (albeit grudgingly) that when he's with her she can give him what she thinks is ok.
In terms of junk food in our house though, it's pretty minimal. His one treat is organic apple juice iceblocks. But I do give him things like crackers, dried fruit, homemade nuggets (fish or chicken) and homemade chips quite regularly. They may be seen as treats by some. But lollies, ice cream, chocolate are never given. He doesn't even know what they are. We were out one day and a little girl (mebbe about 4) gave him a cola bottle lolly (asked me first), and he just held on to it, and looked at it lol! I had to tell him it was something he could eat!
Stick to your guns. Perhaps you need to list out for your MIL what you consider to be junk? Maybe she thinks a few fries are ok.....
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Posted By: MrsMojo
Date Posted: 20 June 2008 at 5:24pm
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joshierocks wrote:
My MIL is the same - will give Joshua all sorts of things when he's with her that I wouldn't. DP and I have had discussions about it and came to the decision (albeit grudgingly) that when he's with her she can give him what she thinks is ok. |
The problem with that plan for us is that MIL looks after Michaela every afternoon until I get home from work and she pops up a couple of times a day 7 days per week
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Stick to your guns. Perhaps you need to list out for your MIL what you consider to be junk? Maybe she thinks a few fries are ok..... |
That's a good idea. I obviously need to be more clear. I've also wondered a few times in recent months if she is beginning to suffer from althzeimers or similar - sometimes she appears to be a few sammies short of a picnic and things we tell her go in one ear and out another and sometimes I feel like I'm talking to a toddler. This is one of the reasons we invited her to move in so I should probably cut her a break. Then again it probably has more to do with the fact it's only been 3 months since her DH died and also she's at an age where she chooses to ignore us because she knows it all now.
ETA: re-reading this it sounds like I leave my daughter every afternoon with an elderly person who suffers from dementia or something ... it's really not like that at all. She is quite capable, just occassionally annoying.
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Posted By: Kellz
Date Posted: 20 June 2008 at 8:04pm
I have chosen to have Isla on a diet which a lot of people seem to think of as very restictive,..but it was recommneded by our naturapath and has greatly helped with her eczema/unsettledness/sleeping etc.
So she has no sugar and hardly anything with preservatives, cottage cheese and plain unsweetened yougurt are the only dairy products she eats, no pork or pork products at all,and we also dont allow a few other things.
She has crackers daily, either rice crackers or those healtheries kids packs, or mealmates or cruskits as snacks. But nothing else at all that is not homemade. I make her own biscuits and cakes which I take to mainly music and she has a supply in the freezer at daycare so she can have those instead of regular cake when its someones birthday. She probably has those homemade buicuits or cake about 3 times a week.
About once a fortnight at in-laws she has plain chips. She very very seldom has watered down juice and never has had fizzy.
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