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Topic: Article for Discussion 21-03-06
Posted By: Maya
Subject: Article for Discussion 21-03-06
Date Posted: 20 March 2006 at 11:37am
http://www.ohbaby.co.nz/default.asp?categoryID=8&subcategoryID=154 - Lowering the legal age for buying takeaway alcohol

Not strictly 'parenting' related, but as requested by one of our members - and certainly a controversial topic!

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Maya Grace (28/02/03)
(02/01/06)
The Gremlins:Sienna Marie & Mercedes Kailah (14/10/06)
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Posted By: lizzle
Date Posted: 20 March 2006 at 12:23pm
i don't think the problem is that under 20s can buy alcohol, it's that people don't always check the ages of who hey are selling too, hey, supermarket checkout operators are often under 18 themselves. Also people buy for underagers. I can't see this having much effect. Also since New Zealand doesn't have a legal drinking age - we have a minimum purchasiong age of alcohol. At home, your parents can give you alcohol at ANY age. that freaks me out more!


Posted By: Maya
Date Posted: 20 March 2006 at 1:26pm
I just think it would be waste of time to raise the 'takeaway' age and leave the 'on-licence' age at 18 - what is the point??? People between 18-20 will either just go to an on-licence and get smashed, or they will have someone else buy it for them at a liquor store.

I don't think raising the drinking age in general will solve many probs either, as Liz said young people find ways around everything, and retailers don't always ask for ID. When I was at school and working at New World I hated asking people for ID coz I was only 15 and it felt kind of disrespectful to be asking older people for ID.

Plus, I started drinking at 9 and by 14 was a regular drinker, so the drinking age never protected me.

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Maya Grace (28/02/03)
(02/01/06)
The Gremlins:Sienna Marie & Mercedes Kailah (14/10/06)
Lil miss:Chiara Louise Chloe (09/07/08)
Her ladyship:Rosalia Sophie Anais (18/06/12)


Posted By: lizzle
Date Posted: 20 March 2006 at 1:55pm
i must say when i was in japan we were with lots of naionalities. Aussies and Kiwis are known for their drinking....not such a good thing!


Posted By: aimeejoy
Date Posted: 21 March 2006 at 1:20pm
I dont think it will make much difference either - we were still all drinking at 15 or 16 when the age was 20...

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Aimee

Hannah 22/10/05
Greer 11/02/08


Posted By: james
Date Posted: 21 March 2006 at 9:09pm
yep i dont see the point when i was working inbars it was so hard to tell a persons age that i made some horrable mistakes(finding out someone is 30 is so abbesing) and kids will be kids

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Posted By: preggy_sunflower
Date Posted: 22 March 2006 at 8:41am
It's the attitude towards drinking that needs to be changed first and foremost. Like you all say, regardless of what age is 'legal' to buy or consume alcohol, young people are still going to do it. Education and guidance from parents and caregivers would be the best thing - however, it's sad to say that most of the young kids who do abuse alcohol learn it from the ones who should be teaching otherwise.....

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Joshua Hadynn - Born 3 May 2006


Posted By: nikkitheknitter
Date Posted: 22 March 2006 at 12:46pm
I'm not in favour of changing the law again, but if there were some changes to be made I would certainly support the raising of the age limit for off-license alcohol.

At off-license places no one can control how much the drinker consumes, atleast at on-license places there is an element of control.

I think in general, alcohol stores and supermarkets are pretty good at checking ID for alcohol. Most check out operators now have to get their supervisor to swipe a card when an alcohol purchase comes up.

I know that when the age was at 20, I could still get alcohol as a 14 year old. There are always going to be ways to get alcohol as an under-ager. Clare is right in that it's education that is going to have the effect.

And I don't think it is just under age kids that have the problem with alcohol. I know plenty of people over the age of 20 who have alcohol problems. That's why I think the ad campaign of "It's no the drinking, it's how we are drinking" is important. Part of the education thing.



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