Should he stay or should he go?
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Topic: Should he stay or should he go?
Posted By: sally belly
Subject: Should he stay or should he go?
Date Posted: 08 July 2008 at 4:06pm
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I'm talking about Tony Veitch.
According to http://www.stuff.co.nz/4610805a10.html - Stuff it appears as if he's being stood down from his job on Radio Sport but he's still reading the sports news on TV1. I saw him on TV last night & it made me cringe slightly (not sure that's the right word but YKWIM). If he did assualt his former partner, I'm not sure he should be reading the sports news. But no complaint was made so I guess that makes him the same as the next guy. Thoughts? -------------    
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Posted By: mummy_becks
Date Posted: 08 July 2008 at 4:07pm
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Idon't think he did anything, no charges have been layed yet so he is fine. ------------- I was a puree feeder, forward facing, cot sleeping, pram pushing kind of Mum... and my kids survived! |
Posted By: GuestGuest
Date Posted: 08 July 2008 at 4:15pm
My fellow Sally Belly! 
I completely agree with you! I couldn't believe it when I saw him on the news last night, and I now look at him completely differently. If he really didn't do anything how come he isn't commenting? It just makes him look guilty. I really think TVNZ will have to stand him down until this is sorted out. |
Posted By: Roksana
Date Posted: 08 July 2008 at 4:18pm
Guilty till proven innocent?? ------------- http://lilypie.com"> 
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Posted By: queenbean
Date Posted: 08 July 2008 at 4:28pm
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OMG, I never heard about that, weird.
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Posted By: AuntieSarah
Date Posted: 08 July 2008 at 4:30pm
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I agree with mummy_becks - no complaint has been laid or charges brought against him. Maybe he's been advised not to say anything about it? Can't believe everything in the media...I mean if he did do it then it's awful, but who knows what really happened. ------------- http://lilypie.com">  http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: sally belly
Date Posted: 08 July 2008 at 4:30pm
*waves to the other Sally Belly*. Great name  -------------
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Posted By: GuestGuest
Date Posted: 08 July 2008 at 4:31pm
*waves back* Ditto! 
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Posted By: lilfatty
Date Posted: 08 July 2008 at 5:00pm
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Actually SallyBelly you confused me as I was wondering about Sally TTC again ------------- Mummy to Issy (3) and Elias (18 months) I did it .. 41 kgs gone! From flab to fab in under a year  http://www.femininefitness.co.nz/category/blog - LFs weight blog
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Posted By: GuestGuest
Date Posted: 08 July 2008 at 5:05pm
| Hehe, sorry about that! |
Posted By: sally belly
Date Posted: 08 July 2008 at 5:47pm
After having a shocker of a night & being awake since 3.45am - not blardy likely!! -------------
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lilfatty wrote:Posted By: kezplanet
Date Posted: 08 July 2008 at 5:56pm
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He is stepping down from all work till an it has been looked into ------------- Kerryn, Mum to Ashlyn(29/3/04), Anastasia(1/11/05) & Abigail (24/02/09) |
Posted By: ellen
Date Posted: 08 July 2008 at 6:22pm
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There seems to be lots of speculation and nothing concrete but where there's smoke there's fire, etc, etc.
I think it's wise that he's been stood down/on leave while it gets sorted out. If it's proven that he did it then TVNZ surely can't keep him on (think Liz Gunn, Clint Brown) because of the precedences set and the fact they're running state funded anti domestic violence campaigns. I do feel a bit sorry for him in that it happened a while ago and she hasn't laid a complaint and apparently they came to some financial compensation? Not by any means am I condoning it but it smacks of someone having a go at him a long time after the fact. Will be interested to see how it turns out. |
Posted By: Peanut
Date Posted: 09 July 2008 at 9:32am
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I think it is slight duble stanards as ellen said as Clint Brown was stood down and you never hear from him now.
I do think its interesting that the woman was prepared to take financial compensation and not make a formal complaint but she shouldn't be judged on that either as at the time I am thinking she may have not been in the right space. Not a nice situation for either of them to be in. -------------  
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Posted By: Jay_R
Date Posted: 09 July 2008 at 9:41am
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"guilty until proven innocent". How fair is that???
I feel really sorry for both of them. No-one except them knows what really happened. Perhaps it was both of them scrapping it out? Or even her attacking him and him trying to protect himself? Not that I'm saying either of those things are acceptable, cos they're not, for either party. But we can't all just go around assuming he is a heinous wife basher until it is proven that he is. I'd say he's not commenting because TVNZ have asked him not to. |
Posted By: peanut butter
Date Posted: 09 July 2008 at 10:01am
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Yeah I think we are very quick to think the worst. DH and I were talking last night and he had heard that she had fallen down stairs or something so it makes you think were they hurling abuse at each other and did he push her or something and she fell. Then she may have said that she will report it if he doesnt cough up. I'm just speculating but that is just as plausible as believing he beat her to a pulp.
I dont condone violence of any sort but I think there are different circumstances in each case.
But I think TVNZ had to stand him down while it is being investigated. |
Posted By: fire_engine
Date Posted: 09 July 2008 at 11:08am
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I'm glad he's stood down while it's being investigated - it's a really serious allegation. If it's found to be false, then he should be reinstated and be able to sue, but if it's true ...
I do think it's a pretty huge story to break if there's not strong evidence - definitely a law suit in the making. ------------- Mum to two wee boys |
Posted By: sally belly
Date Posted: 09 July 2008 at 11:35am
Apparently her back was broken so whatever happened, it was pretty serious. 
I too think it's best that he's stood down while it's investigated but the truth may never come out due to lack of a complaint to the Police. -------------
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Posted By: nuttymama
Date Posted: 09 July 2008 at 12:22pm
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I find this very thought provoking.
They say silence is golden but it can also be very condemning! I read this morning that an old work colleague has stated that he kicked her in the back several times breaking it. I also thought it strange that she was "paid out" if it happened but then I started thinking about how much publicity this has caused and it makes me wonder if that's the reason she accepted the pay out (she had to quit her job after her "accident") and didn't press charges. Dealing with such an injury would be bad enough let alone a press circus as you are trying to recover. She also had her career to think about. I definitely think he needed to be stood down until issues are sorted out though. Tvnz are running the anti violence campaign in conjunction with parliament. That whole campaign would have been called into question and lost significance if he had been allowed to continue on. ------------- Abigail 06/01/2005 Jayden 21/11/2001 Micheal 03/04/1997 |
Posted By: nuttymama
Date Posted: 09 July 2008 at 12:26pm
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I don't know how to do a link but this is some of what I read.
His sidelining follows revelations in The Dominion Post that he secretly agreed to pay former partner Kristin Dunne-Powell more than $100,000 in return for her silence about the incident. Auckland police spokeswoman Noreen Hegarty said police could investigate the allegations, but they would need some evidence. "But who would know, unless you got that from the complainant?" She said a complainant would add weight to any prosecution. Veitch, 34, has made no comment on the secret payout and the 2006 assault, in which he repeatedly kicked Ms Dunne-Powell, fracturing her vertebrae in four places and inflicting a head injury. She spent months away from her job as Vodafone's general manager of marketing, had a breakdown and was later forced to quit work. A former Vodafone colleague said Veitch had kicked his former lover as she lay on the floor of his bedroom. "He kicked her so hard he broke four vertebrae ... She couldn't walk. "She went from a lovely sporty girl to someone who lost a lot of back muscle. She was seriously weakened." It is also understood that it was hours before Ms Dunne-Powell, 33, arrived at hospital in Auckland. She was in a wheelchair for some time but the pair agreed to stick to a story that she had fallen on the stairs, another source said early this week. Ms Dunne-Powell, who is now chief operating officer of broadband firm Woosh, did not file a complaint with police. ------------- Abigail 06/01/2005 Jayden 21/11/2001 Micheal 03/04/1997 |
Posted By: mummy_becks
Date Posted: 09 July 2008 at 6:08pm
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So he has admited that he did do it there was a press conference about 4pm. I really hope he doesn't lose his job at TVNZ as noone else can do Game of Two Halves like him. ------------- I was a puree feeder, forward facing, cot sleeping, pram pushing kind of Mum... and my kids survived! |
Posted By: caliandjack
Date Posted: 09 July 2008 at 7:21pm
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I don't think he should lose his job over it.
Its not work related and I don't condone it, but a lot of people get into trouble with the law, be it domestic violence, assault or drugs particularly people in the media, and most of them get their jobs back. Think Marc Ellis, Matthew Ridge and Mike King, Tony Veitch fits right in with his Game of Two Halve colleagues. Trial by media by the sounds of thing. Must suck having your own work mates investigate you. ------------- http://lilypie.com" rel="nofollow">   [/url] Angel June 2012 |
Posted By: Peanut
Date Posted: 09 July 2008 at 7:31pm
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Sorry but I disagree Fleury. He is guilty. Clint Brown lost his job for racial abuse and TBH spousal abuse is just as bad. I do feel sorry for him though. -------------
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Posted By: Paws
Date Posted: 09 July 2008 at 7:57pm
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Although he has admitted his guilt I think there is still more to the story to be honest.
Sad if he does lose his job but I can't say I would like someone like that to be an admired public figure. I agree, as Peanut said, Clint Brown lost his job, this is just as bad.  Surely TVNZ have to consider what this could do to the ratings, a facebook group even started with people joining to boycott any media stuff he does. ------------- http://lilypie.com"> 
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Posted By: mummy_becks
Date Posted: 09 July 2008 at 8:07pm
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Clint Brown is now on TV3 I think. I got an invite to taht group but i'm not joining i still like Veitchy. ------------- I was a puree feeder, forward facing, cot sleeping, pram pushing kind of Mum... and my kids survived! |
Posted By: JadeC
Date Posted: 12 July 2008 at 8:28pm
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Ugh, I hate it when people won't make a complaint with the police. The fact is, if he did it, then he broke the law and needs to accept the consequences. I really don't like that it can't be prosecuted because she didn't complain, how awful would it be if he did it to another woman, and she could have prevented that??
And as much as we can't know what happened, I can't picture a guy breaking a woman's back in 4 places in self defence.  ------------- http://pregnancy.baby-gaga.com/" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: lizzle
Date Posted: 12 July 2008 at 9:39pm
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It is pretty bad. On talkback people were going on about him "taking responsibility" for his actions - well, he admitted it, he went through a anger managment programme, and compensated her for loss of earnings - obviouskly this is kinda crappy, but obviously she agreed to it, so I don't really see what more he can do.
and as for mathew ridge saying how "despicable" it was...forgeting about people he riped off with his real estate development and crap......whatever...and he was a skank cheating on his wife a lot....people in glass houses mate! - sorry that annoyed me. I think he has to lose his job though and will do some kind of public campaign againest violence in the home. one woman on some show rang up and made a great point "See, it's not just us poor maoris who beat our wives like the media want us to think: - it's everyone" |
Posted By: Bizzy
Date Posted: 12 July 2008 at 10:41pm
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havent read all of this...
i dont know if he did it and nor do i care... what i find despicable is a woman gets beaten up and doesnt go to the police, but takes money - a bribe essentially - docs were signed so a lawyer was seen by both parties ... and no police complaint laid. ------------- http://www.myfitnesspal.com/weight-loss-ticker"> 
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Posted By: ellen
Date Posted: 17 July 2008 at 7:23pm
| Interesting developments - he's resigned and she's laid a formal complaint. I think there's alot more to this story than anyone's letting on! |
Posted By: mummy_becks
Date Posted: 17 July 2008 at 7:41pm
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I;m gutted he has resigned from TVNZ, it will never be the same again, and I see that game of 2 halves isn't being advertised yet for tomorrow night. ------------- I was a puree feeder, forward facing, cot sleeping, pram pushing kind of Mum... and my kids survived! |
Posted By: ellen
Date Posted: 17 July 2008 at 7:43pm
| Oh that's interesting mummy becks - I wonder who will replace himif it does carry on? Martin Devlin? |
Posted By: Paws
Date Posted: 17 July 2008 at 10:21pm
I suspect you are very right! ------------- http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: caitlynsmygirl
Date Posted: 17 July 2008 at 10:24pm
I heard he resigned, i didnt realise she made a formal complaint...oooh the plot thickens! |
Posted By: .Mel
Date Posted: 17 July 2008 at 10:29pm
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My understanding is that it wasn't a bribe, she asked him to pay that $100k (read that in the herald)....so yeah there is alot more to it than we are being told.
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Posted By: ellen
Date Posted: 18 July 2008 at 12:37pm
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You know who I feel the most sorry for in all this????
HIS WIFE !!!! Good on her for standing by her man but I hope she knows all the facts otherwise she could end up the big loser. I certainly wouldn't want to be dealing with this in such a public way only a few months into my marriage. 
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Posted By: fattartsrock
Date Posted: 18 July 2008 at 2:20pm
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I think he left before he was pushed. I am in no way condoning what happened, but I feel he is beign made "an example" of... Funny how the all blacks who bash wives or go on drunken rampages etc get a slap on the wrist with a wet bus ticket and keep their high profile jobs....and IMHO they are far more "role model" material to our youth than Tony is.
Ther are only 2 people who know exactly what happened, him and her. The rest is speculation. ------------- The Honest Un PC Parent of 2, usually stuck in the naughty corner! :P |
Posted By: caitlynsmygirl
Date Posted: 18 July 2008 at 6:03pm
Very true Annie
and don't the Allblacks get name suppression as well ? Seems theres a different set of rules for everyone ! |
Posted By: fattartsrock
Date Posted: 18 July 2008 at 10:17pm
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Oh, yes, that's right, The All Blacks are our nations "heros" therefore are above reproach.... ------------- The Honest Un PC Parent of 2, usually stuck in the naughty corner! :P |
Posted By: caitlynsmygirl
Date Posted: 18 July 2008 at 10:22pm
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Tis a sad sad time when men who roll around in mud and grab each others bottoms in a "scrum " aka excuse for group bum grabbing while being manly about it * are our nations heroes .....
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Posted By: mummy_becks
Date Posted: 18 July 2008 at 10:32pm
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NOT in my books they aren't. I did see Game of 2 Halves was on with Martin as the host, so they must be keeping it on.
------------- I was a puree feeder, forward facing, cot sleeping, pram pushing kind of Mum... and my kids survived! |
Posted By: pikelets
Date Posted: 20 July 2008 at 4:46pm
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Jst reading through the thread - can someone tell me what Liz Gunn and Mike King did that wasn't good - I can't remember or missed it completely ------------- http://lilypie.com"> 
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Posted By: ellen
Date Posted: 20 July 2008 at 5:02pm
| Liz Gunn was involved in a charity with Michael Jones (I think) and one of their patrons was involved in domestic violence. Not sure about Mike King though? |