Newborn Baby Dies..
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Topic: Newborn Baby Dies..
Posted By: MissCandice
Subject: Newborn Baby Dies..
Date Posted: 10 August 2008 at 2:20pm
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Another article.
BOP - Te Puke. Article highlights that the mother is 17. http://stuff.co.nz/4650632a11.html - Here we go again ------------- ~ Mummy to a beautiful girl ~ |
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Posted By: mummy_becks
Date Posted: 10 August 2008 at 3:32pm
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I don't think it is fair to be highlighting the fact that the babies mum is 17. There are a number of young mums that do a fabulous job. ------------- I was a puree feeder, forward facing, cot sleeping, pram pushing kind of Mum... and my kids survived! |
Posted By: MissCandice
Date Posted: 10 August 2008 at 3:40pm
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I know.. i think they are trying to make people think that young mothers cant be good mothers. Doesnt state anything else about her. I think its mean. ------------- ~ Mummy to a beautiful girl ~ |
Posted By: lizzle
Date Posted: 10 August 2008 at 3:53pm
| i don't think this is news-worthy as yet. yes, forensic people are investigating - as they should if ANY newborn baby suddenly dies. the implication is that the mother or family caused it, but this could just be cot death - why report this UNTIL chrages have been laid or the coroner's report states the death as suspicious. reminds me a lot of a family whose baby died not long after the Kahui twins - they were fully investigated and the implication was that they had caused it - what do you know - natural causes! bet that is the case here. poor mum and family |
Posted By: MissCandice
Date Posted: 10 August 2008 at 4:43pm
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http://stuff.co.nz/4650632a11.html - Updated Story ------------- ~ Mummy to a beautiful girl ~ |
Posted By: mummy_becks
Date Posted: 10 August 2008 at 5:46pm
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I knew that family Liz (the twins were my friends niece and nephew), and it was really sad. They hated that they were being compared to the Kahui case as they knew noone had hurt their babies they were just prem babies (came 3 months early). However, he said the baby had "some quite interesting injuries" which were not believed to have contributed to her death. Why said some interesting injuries if they haven't contributed to the death ------------- I was a puree feeder, forward facing, cot sleeping, pram pushing kind of Mum... and my kids survived! |
Posted By: KiwiNZ
Date Posted: 10 August 2008 at 6:58pm
it's horrible that a wee baby died no matter what the cause was  ------------- PAM http://lilypie.com"> 
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Posted By: caitlynsmygirl
Date Posted: 10 August 2008 at 9:48pm
completley agree Liz |
lizzle wrote:Posted By: MissCandice
Date Posted: 11 August 2008 at 7:58am
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http://stuff.co.nz/4651443a11.html - She hid her pregnancy
Thats so sad. I wonder if she even birthed at a hospital, or if the wee girl even got to see a doctor.. ------------- ~ Mummy to a beautiful girl ~ |
Posted By: caitlynsmygirl
Date Posted: 11 August 2008 at 12:52pm
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Thats really sad, that she was too scared to tell her parents.
There is no way i could get away with hiding a pregnancy from my parents, they are too observant and wanting to be involved in my life (in a good way ) What a sad situation |
Posted By: Rachael21
Date Posted: 11 August 2008 at 1:54pm
| Aw man thats so sad for everyone involved. |
Posted By: mummy_becks
Date Posted: 11 August 2008 at 2:08pm
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That is really sad, the baby probably died just after birth ------------- I was a puree feeder, forward facing, cot sleeping, pram pushing kind of Mum... and my kids survived! |
Posted By: mummy_becks
Date Posted: 11 August 2008 at 6:05pm
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http://nz.news.yahoo.com/a/-/top-stories/4883055/ - Updated again Seems like it was a result of hiden pregnancy ------------- I was a puree feeder, forward facing, cot sleeping, pram pushing kind of Mum... and my kids survived! |
Posted By: my4beauties
Date Posted: 13 August 2008 at 10:50am
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Yeah I've been reading this, and looks like she hid the pregnancy, and delivered the baby with no medical help. It's sooo sad this poor baby hasn't had a good chance at life. I wonder if the girl will be charged for not getting medical help throughout the pregnancy, or birth? Obviously we don't know her circumstances, and has been let down by people in order for her to think she needed to hide the pg. Too bad it's all come out now, and in this way. Too sad ------------- My babies: R (9),G (7), J (5) http://lilypie.com" rel="nofollow"> 
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.Posted By: Roksana
Date Posted: 13 August 2008 at 11:15am
OK SO I am going to sound like a total Biatch here...but I cant see how a 17 year old who was grown up enough to have Sex wasnt matured enough to seek medical help during her pregnancy and birth...I mean if she was hiding it from family great (I just wonder how no pne noticed???) but she could go to the docs not telling family too...so what was the problem? come on!!! 
I have no sympathy for her...unless ofcourse she was raped or some thing....but even then Police should have been involved etc.....I cant see how this could not have been avoided!! May be I am a bit touchy on this matter...but I am pregnant and HATE HATE it when babies die!! ------------- http://lilypie.com"> 
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Posted By: cuppatea
Date Posted: 13 August 2008 at 1:33pm
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Aw it's so sad. I watched an Oprah program about this, it's quite a common problem as they are too ashamed or scared to tell anyone they are pregnant and then give birth and just don't know what to do. A celebrity (can't remember who) campaigned in the US and mothers are now able to drop babies at fire stations, hospitals and doctors offices no questions asked, don't have to leave a name or anything and it has seen the infant mortatilty rate drop drastically. The celebrity in question adopted one of these babies and did the campaign after a baby was found in a dumpster by her appartment block.
I just think it is really really sad, this happened at a local school when I was school age the girl had put the baby in her locker. I just think it is awful that they are too scared to tell anyone, and some parents just aren't understanding, she was in a rural location as well so maybe was too scared to go to anyone and felt isolated, her parents could be really strict catholics or something, who knows really. And at 17 you are still a child in my opinion even if the law does say you are ready for sex and all that entails. ------------- 
 
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Posted By: caitlynsmygirl
Date Posted: 14 August 2008 at 9:32pm
who says 17 year olds, or anyone that has sex is mature ? sure in an ideal world they would be , but obviously in this case she wasjust another girl who had sex and was genuinely very scared of what would happen . Thats sad, very sad, because in years to come she'll probably gain the wisdom that she lacks now and realise that it wouldnt have been so bad if she had told someone , and she wont be able to do anything to change it, and thats the burden she'll always have to bear. In an ideal world, things like this would never happen ,but we dont live in one . im sure she's going through hell right now , no matter what we might think of the situation , i think its one of those situations that seems very easy to judge on the offset (eg baby dies ) but more likely one of those "have to live it to judge " situations, im just grateful i have never had to hide anything like that because i know my parents love me unconditionally .....sad that its not the same for every one |
Posted By: MissCandice
Date Posted: 15 August 2008 at 9:52am
I hate to say it but i kind of agree with her. 17 isnt exactly a baby anymore, 17 is old enough to know whats right, and your right, what was stopping her from seeing a doctor behind everyones bad? I think it was a really stupid mistake she has made, in a way she should be charged because the baby died because of her mistake. But on the other hand i feel sorry for her, but she new she was pregnant, she should have had a termination instead of waiting for the child to be born to die. ------------- ~ Mummy to a beautiful girl ~ |
Posted By: caitlynsmygirl
Date Posted: 15 August 2008 at 1:28pm
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Who knows her reasons for hiding it ?maybe she genuinely thought it would be ok with out going to a doctor, and yes that is possible, plenty of girls dont know much about pregnancy even when they are pregnant, my friend for example didnt have a clue that things can go wrong in labour .
And perhaps she didnt tell anyone including a doctor because she was a scared 17 year old who thought the doctor might tell her parents. Im not saying what she did was great, but i simply dont know enough of the facts to say "oh my gosh shes a horrible person " |
Posted By: MissCandice
Date Posted: 17 August 2008 at 11:31am
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IM not saying she was a horrible person, i just think it was really irresponsible, JMHO. I dont know her circumstances, and i feel sorry for her. But at 17 you do know better. ------------- ~ Mummy to a beautiful girl ~ |
Posted By: Candkids
Date Posted: 17 August 2008 at 12:13pm
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im sure she wasnt the only one who knew she was hiding a pregnancy, obviously others would have known or suspected something.
someone else should have told someone if she wasnt going to. ------------- http://lilypie.com" rel="nofollow">  DD 10.5yrs DS 6yrs DS 11mths 5 little angles watching from above |
Posted By: kabe
Date Posted: 17 August 2008 at 4:38pm
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I heard something awful about this case. Not sure if it's true or not, but I heard that a farm dog killed the baby, after the girl went indoors to clean up. Too terrible to bare thinking about. ------------- http://alterna-tickers.com"> 
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Posted By: Mazzy
Date Posted: 17 August 2008 at 5:23pm
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I hope that's just a rumour. But even saying that, it's not a nice rumour to be going around.
My heart breaks for this girl, whoever she is. There are many different levels of maturity at 17 and just because you have sex doesn't mean you are mature or know what to do in a difficult, life changing situation. She may have had other people know about the pregnancy and perhaps those people gave her bad advice. Or maybe she had decided to get some medical help and the baby came early before she could. Maybe the birth was super quick and she was alone and unable to get help. There are hundreds of things that could have happened, none of us know because we weren't there and I HATE it when judgements are made about others based on news stories. I hope somehow, some day she find some peace. And I am so sad for the little baby - she didn't deserve this either. ------------- Mum to two gorgeous girls! |
Posted By: caitlynsmygirl
Date Posted: 17 August 2008 at 6:49pm
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Thats pretty much how i feel Mazzy
as for 17 being mature , i know plenty of 17 year olds for whom the term "mature " does not apply (incidentally plenty of 20 year olds, hell , even a couple of 30 year olds ) Getting a year older ,does not gaurantee getting wiser |
Posted By: Rachael21
Date Posted: 18 August 2008 at 12:07pm
I feel the same, we don't know anything about what really happened, just that that poor 17 year old has to live with this for the rest of her life. |
Posted By: Aithne
Date Posted: 19 August 2008 at 7:02pm
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Hi. im 17 and expecting my first.
I find it very sad to hear about babies dying and its sad to hear about this girls story. I know i have told my mum and am getting the help i need for a safe and healthy pregnancy, but i also know how hard it can be to tell people. And i remember when i needed a pregnancy test and was to scared to say anything to anyone until i knew for sure, i found it very hard to get into town early before work and be dropped off near enough to a chemist, mostly because i dont have many friends in my area and my mum is pretty on to it so thought she might guess that something was up and ask heaps of questions. In the end i had to make something up as a reason to be dropped off much earlier and across the other side of town. So maybe as this girl lived in a rural place she had no way of getting into town to see a doctor without her parents knowing something was up. Im not sure but thought i would add a 17year olds perspective to this thread. And i do know that i have been told im much more mature for my age and making all the right descisions for baby and continious study after, but a lot of my friends who are the same age as me still act or think like a child sometimes might not be able to cope or know what to do and could end up trying to abort illegally and behind the parents back (this happened to one of my good friends sadly). So i just really wanted to say everyone is entitled to their own opinion and my opinion is that she may have been in a controling situation and been out of touch of help. RIP little baby girl xx |
Posted By: NeoshasMummy
Date Posted: 26 August 2008 at 2:41pm
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Very sad but I don't agree with what she did ------------- https://secure.fertilityfriend.com/home/30c4ec/" rel="nofollow">  Mrs Te Kani ❤️ Neosha 26/5/2007 |