Male Factor Infertility
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Topic: Male Factor Infertility
Posted By: Babykatnz
Subject: Male Factor Infertility
Date Posted: 13 August 2008 at 9:59pm
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Is there anyone else on here struggling due to their DP/DH having issues? I feel like a fraud being in this part of the forum as theres nothing wrong with me, as the ticker shows, I already have one DS (to previous marriage) but we have been trying officially for over a year now..DP has some serious issues with count and morphology, at last check he didnt even have enough viable swimmers to attempt IUI...
We are due to visit FA in Aucks on Tuesday arvo to find out his latest results (doing another SA tomorrow) and I am really scared of what we will find out, but don't know how to talk to DP... If I am scared about whats going to happen from here... how must HE be feeling, being the reason why we are having to get help in the first place?...He had to go on a 3 month course of Menevit to see if it made a diff to count/morphology... but 4 months later I am still not preg...af due tomorrow/Friday, but temps indicate its def coming... IVF and ICSI were mentioned at the last appt as our possibly only alternative... we dont even have $1K, let alone 10... and I am currently about 20kg over my max weight to be at a BMI of 32... I am working on it... but I hate that we have to be doing this in the first place, and then I hate that I am the reason we are stuck at this point until i can get down to the weight I need to be... (sucks being a shorty sometimes lol) is there anyone else who has Male Factor Infertility? ------------- Brandon - 05/12/2003  
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Posted By: ginger
Date Posted: 14 August 2008 at 10:49am
Hi  We had male factor infertility, and yes, not enough viable sperm to do anything other than ICSI. We had less than 5% normal sperm, a very high count, but motility and morphology were a bust.
DH is a very relaxed sort, and I don't think he ever actually felt bad about it for himself at all - he was able to acknowledge the lifestyle factors, and just sheer crap luck that meant that we had to go down that track. You're not a fraud at all being on the forum silly thing, you are half of an infertile couple! Infertility sucks no matter how much chocolate you coat it in 
When you think about it, you've a problem shared to an extent - your weight will hold you up qualifying for publicly funded treatment, and you're having to shed it in the first place because you have male factor infertility All I can say re your appointment today is be prepared to receive the advice that ICSI is your best option, and believe me, IVF is hard, but it's not the end of the world. You want that baby, right?  In the meantime, give yourself goals re weight loss and work hard, with all the motivation you have for that baby. I'm not entirely sure, but I actually think that even private IVF will refuse to do the course if your weight is an issue due to reduced chance of success. It's a lot of money down the drain, so it's worth it. Also, we went through F+ and they were gorgeous - they also have lower fees for ICSI - by a couple of thousand from memory.
Also, if you can, try and isolate factors which may be contributing to the sperm problem - sometimes it can help  ------------- Cuinn Lachlan 23.1.09 - 22:00 Antonia Helene 4.8.11 - 09:41 |
Posted By: katiep
Date Posted: 14 August 2008 at 1:27pm
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Hello just wanted to say I know where you are coming from, my husbands results are not to flash either, we are debating trying the Menevit drug to, as we are looking at IVF with ICSI,
With regards to the weight loss, I have tried every thing! and the only thing I have had and luck with is Reductil, I have lost 24 kg over 6 months, All the best |
Posted By: catie
Date Posted: 14 August 2008 at 1:36pm
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Hi
We had male factor infertility, combined with my age. I think it's worth knowing that semen quality can vary a lot, and it can often be improved to some extent. My DH had low count, mortility and morphology following a vasectomy reversal for the first couple of years and when we first went to F+ they were quite discouraging about IUI based on a SA done several months earlier, which showed 100,000 sperm with only 5% motility. But since then he had done acupuncture and vitamin and mineral supplments and with another SA was done it had improved markedly, to just below 'normal' - 10million, 55% motility. Since then it has varied a bit, e.g. we've had 3 IUI attempts (unsuccessful); the first one after the sperm had been prepared (which includes wahing away the 'sluggish' ones etc), there 400,000; 2nd time there were 3 million; 3rd time there were 800,000, and we were all ready for a 4th attempt but the semen count was too low. About 6 weeks before that last one DH had been really sick, and we think that, combined with the medication he took, caused the low count. so we're now in the process of getting as healthy as possible before having one more go in a couple of months, but it's been recommended that DH have a series of SA's done first to try to be sure it'll all be good on the day. So there is hope! I'm a researcher so had looked through the medical journals that specialise in (in)fertility, and there does seem to be some evidence for other supplments in addition to Menavit, but more research needs to be done. However, I do think these others helped us (though improving diet was also a factor, i'm sure): L-Carnitine, L-Arginine and Co-Enzyme Q-10. Gets expensive though, esp the Carnitine (Vita-fit brand is best value). Sorry about the novel, but good luck!
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Posted By: Caronz
Date Posted: 14 August 2008 at 8:29pm
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Hi, Your story sounds just like mine! My DF has lazy swimmers, well the ones he does have are lazy, and Im overweight so cant get funding for IVF. we funded our own cycle of ICIS last year but that didnt work. after much debating we have decided to try IUI using a sperm donor. It has been a very hard decission to make and I just hope that it works.
Interested to read you saying about menevit, something that has never been mentioned to us! I hate how we went along to the FS and talked it all through, FS had a quick feel of DF bits, he all normal, dont know why count is low, Oh well, you will have to do ISIC, oh and by the way, Your fat!!! Im going to go and look into menevit! Fingers crossed for us all on this journey! Caro |
Posted By: Babykatnz
Date Posted: 15 August 2008 at 6:34pm
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DP has less than 5% morphology and last count was 8.4million, but borderline normal motility... will find out on Monday if Menevit has made a differcne or not...
Wish my DP was as willing to have his 'bits felt' lol... NOONE is allowed down there, so we will never know if theres anything there that could be blocking the paths or anything...Silly 'man pride' getting in the way. Blood tests showed nothing hormonal or genetic causing it...so 'unexplained'? He has been really lovely tongiht tho cos he saw how down I got cos af showed up today...so in 2 days we hit the 13 month mark, and the next day we get the news that kinda determines where we go from here... regardless of the results, I am going to doctor on Tuesday and asking if I can go on Reductil cos I wanna get rid of this weight....A few people have mentioned this to me as a possibility, and I even have a weight'loss buddy at work now too..I am willing to do everything possible to sort myself out so we can get the help if/when we need to... Thanks for the words you guys, it helps me a lot to know im not alone in this kinda situation... ------------- Brandon - 05/12/2003
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Posted By: kiwigal
Date Posted: 19 August 2008 at 11:20am
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Dh has a very low sperm count usually around a million but not too sure about motility etc. We had our first IUI in Aug 2002 and I think Dh had about million and got pregnant straight away. We started trying again about June of last year and his sperm count was less than a million after two busted cycles and my body not respsonding to well to clomid we had another IUI done after the new year and Dh's count was only about 300,000 and got pregnant straight away and due to have a little girl next month a month prem because I am high risk due to blood clotting. |
Posted By: Babykatnz
Date Posted: 19 August 2008 at 7:01pm
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Well we got DP's SA rsults back, and after a meeting with Dr Graham...the verdict is we need IVF....
still kinda numb about it all... On a major weight loss mission now though since I need to get down to at least 83kg to be accepted for public funded IVF... we are eligible for it as we score 70 points on their scales, and need 65 to get in... so all bets are off and I am now switching focus to weight loss (at least 20kg..eep) seeing as theres slim chance of getting preg naturally... wish I had taken another day off work instead of just today... I am going to be a mess once this has all sunken in... ------------- Brandon - 05/12/2003
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Posted By: Lee180
Date Posted: 20 August 2008 at 9:02pm
| When i first heard that our only option of having a baby was IVF, and it was a joint problem (had issues both sides) my initial reaction was - oh so we have found the problem and now we have a solution, i felt like i finally understood 'why' i wasn't pregnant already. It wasn't until a couple of weeks later that the reality actually set in, and i fully understood that this was probably the ONLY way our dreams of having a baby were to come true and that was when i became a bit of a mess - talk about delayed reaction. However i think once you start the journey even if the journey is just beginning with starting to lose weight, then at least you feel like you are doing something positive . . small steps and all that. Wishing you the best of luck towards shredding the pounds and continuing on your journey towards making a baby!! |
Posted By: Daizy01
Date Posted: 05 September 2008 at 4:33pm
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Hiya,
My other half has no probs with his "boys" but I just wanted to wish you all the best. I'm the one who is at fault. I've had two ICSI cycles (both negative). We are now seeking an egg donor and am hoping a lovely lady will come to our rescue very soon. Take care. ------------- 2 ICSI Cycles (Both BFN) |
Posted By: kobec
Date Posted: 13 September 2008 at 7:06pm
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We have problems on both sides. Me having Endo (have had a laporoscopy tho) and irregular cycles and DH with having very low sperm count. His last test was less than 1 million and slow motility. Have put DH on Maca as I read somewhere that is suppossed to help but I find it really hard to sit down and discuss 'his problem' in all of this cause I don't want to come accross accusing him of anything. And i am obsessed with having another baby and his view is that 'if it happens it happens'.
I feel like it is always me who brings up the baby subject. |
Posted By: purpledragon
Date Posted: 15 September 2008 at 4:14pm
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My husband has had a vasectomy reversal and I have been visiting an american forum that helps with getting the best results after a VR. Their specialist recomment these kinds of things to help produce the best swimmers.
It takes 3mths for any alterations to lifestyle to show an affect on the swimmers. As that is the life cycle of swimmers. 1. No heat to the groin area. This includes no hot tubs, hot showers, Jacuzzis or hot saunas or laptops on the knees. It takes 74 days to make swimmers so avoid heat for approximately 3 months prior to trying to conceive or checking a swimmer analysis. 2. Stay well hydrated. 3. Eat a healthy balanced diet with plenty of fresh fruits and vegetables. 4. Eat beef three times a week. 5. Try to ejaculate approximately every 24-48 hours, to keep the system revved up. 6. Avoid testosterone replacement and all male hormone/androgen supplements. These can drastically reduce and even zero-out your swimmers count. Most often these counts return overtime, but some men remain sterile permanently. 7. Absolutely no tobacco in any for. 8. Absolutely no marijuana or other drug use, as these are associated with reduced testosterone levels and poor swimmers counts and morphology (can be an indication of chromosomal abnormalities). 9. Alcohol in moderation. Excess or binge drinking or heavy drinking is associated with significant swimmer toxicity. Anti-oxidants 1. Selenium 200 micrograms once a day 2. Vitamin C, 250-500 mg, 3 times a day 3. Vitamin E 400 international units once a day 4. Zinc 50-100 mg once a day 5. Coenzyme Q10 30-50 mg once a day 6. Folic acid 400 micrograms a day 7. B complex once a day 8. Fish oil capsules, 2-3 times a day 9. Multivitamin with trace minerals once a day I hope this helps. Centrum makes a good multi-vitamin that has most of the list and what is left out add with the individual pills. Or there is this you can buy from overseas. http://www.fertilityblend.com.html/fertilityblend_optimize_repro.html ------------- Tania & Les Nicholas 18 Vaughn 15 Lisa 10 Tara 5yrs Gestational Surrogate for couple in Whakatane Egg collection week of 4th Oct Embryo transfer week of 11th Oct |
Posted By: purpledragon
Date Posted: 15 September 2008 at 4:16pm
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Our last count was total motile 3 million and 33% motility.
But at our highest has only ever been 9 million total and 50% motility. We also found Agnus Cactus/Vitex 30c has helped heaps with motility. In 1 mth we went from 3% to 50%. ------------- Tania & Les Nicholas 18 Vaughn 15 Lisa 10 Tara 5yrs Gestational Surrogate for couple in Whakatane Egg collection week of 4th Oct Embryo transfer week of 11th Oct |
Posted By: kobec
Date Posted: 17 September 2008 at 6:37pm
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Thanks purpledragon for all that info. I have printed off the list of pills good for DH's swimmers and I plan to take a trip to the chemist and have a look. I also looked at that fertiliy blend website. It sounds amazing but I am always weary (sp) at buying stuff from states - i probably being paranoid. And I am not sure DH would pay out all that money as we have been buying Maca online and that is quite expensive as well so might just carry on with that for the moment.
Definatly goin to have a look at that Agnus Cactus/Vitex 30c tho. Is that the full name of it and can you just get it from the chemist or health shop? |
Posted By: purpledragon
Date Posted: 17 September 2008 at 7:41pm
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We bought some of that fertility blend from that website. It was fast in delivery and cost about about $150 new zealand, which I didn't think was too bad considering it was 3mths worth.
I bought the Agnus Catcus from a homepath. I didn't realise it was good for sperm count. I just asked for something that would help with it and that is what she gave us. The 30c is the dosage. Good luck with increasing his sperm quality and quantity. ------------- Tania & Les Nicholas 18 Vaughn 15 Lisa 10 Tara 5yrs Gestational Surrogate for couple in Whakatane Egg collection week of 4th Oct Embryo transfer week of 11th Oct |
Posted By: olympics
Date Posted: 22 September 2008 at 10:22pm
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Hi all
My partner and I tried to conceive for about 18 months before finally seeking help at Fertility Associates. I was completely shocked to find out that our issue was due to him having a low (pretty much zero) sperm count. Up to that point I had imagined it was all me! We don't know why he has no sperm - everything we could think of seemed to be ruled out by the specialist. (We still suspect that it is due to an illness he suffered as a child that meant he was on antibiotics for 18 years but the specialist seems to think there is no research evidence to support this!) Any way we now find ourselves counting on someone donating sperm to be able to conceive. I can 't imagine the guilt my beautiful man must feel every time we see a baby, or every time I get upset at our situation. He is very private about it and so we haven't told anyone about our circumstances. This makes it a bit of a lonely journey but I respect his need for privacy. I emphathise with any one in this situation - it is really hard and I wish you all the luck in the world. |
Posted By: Babykatnz
Date Posted: 02 October 2008 at 11:27pm
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well... update from us again...
Got the shock of our lives this morning... I got a faint, but def there bfp!!! DP has been on Menevit since May, but last few weeks has been taking a supplement called horny Goat Weed... and yes... I had a giggle at the name when he told me about it too... but he was clearly onto a good idea... and of course... he thinks he is 'the man'.... I dont mind cos omg... im actually pregnant....  ------------- Brandon - 05/12/2003
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Posted By: WestiesGirl
Date Posted: 03 October 2008 at 12:01am
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Congrats again hun. I saw your chart earlier and saw the great wee surprise
lol at the Horny Goat Weed. Do you think it helped?? ------------- Our Angel July 08  Gone but not forgotten
And to complete our family, our princess has arrived 
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Posted By: Daizy01
Date Posted: 03 October 2008 at 9:40am
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Wow Babykat, that is the most greatest news ever. What a blessing for you. Once you have come down from your buzz, keep us posted as to how things are going. ------------- 2 ICSI Cycles (Both BFN) |
Posted By: Babykatnz
Date Posted: 03 October 2008 at 10:48am
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Def would put it down to the goat weed lol... it put him in a better mood... so he was 'up for it' more than once in my fertile period lol... so not sure if it was the menevit kicking in, the got weed combined with menevit, or just getting more than one shot in... or maybe all 3? But either way... something worked lol!
Couldnt help myself and did another net cheapie, and a quickcard just to be sure... lol... and we are def having a baby... no ifs, buts or maybe's about it!!! ------------- Brandon - 05/12/2003
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Posted By: purpledragon
Date Posted: 03 October 2008 at 12:20pm
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Congratulations babykats.
You will both be on cloud nine for a while. Have a lovely pregnancy. ------------- Tania & Les Nicholas 18 Vaughn 15 Lisa 10 Tara 5yrs Gestational Surrogate for couple in Whakatane Egg collection week of 4th Oct Embryo transfer week of 11th Oct |
Posted By: kobec
Date Posted: 03 October 2008 at 2:27pm
| Wow congrats babykatnz. Great news. All the best for a healthy pregnancy..........Can I ask where you got the horney weed goat and Menevit from? Thanks |
Posted By: Babykatnz
Date Posted: 06 October 2008 at 7:27pm
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Hi Kobec, we got Menevit through Fertility Associates, they get it couriered from Australia, and the goat weed was from www.radiuspharmacy.co.nz or any usual health shop like Health2000 or a chemist ------------- Brandon - 05/12/2003
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Posted By: WestiesGirl
Date Posted: 06 October 2008 at 11:14pm
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Babykatnz do you think that the Goat Weed helped in Conceiving? ------------- Our Angel July 08 Gone but not forgotten
And to complete our family, our princess has arrived
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Posted By: JenCal
Date Posted: 10 October 2008 at 12:41pm
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I haven't heard of this Menevit... will have to check it out!
We have been trying for 4yrs, we are dealing with MFI as well. DH has <1 million count (weren't given a #), and borderline motility, the report said that there were too few sperm present to check morph (WTF!!!) I am also way overweight for publicly funded IVF - need to lose about 30kg to qualify (sigh!) Anyone keen to start a weightloss group to try and qualify? You would think getting pregnant would be enough to get me going - but I just feel so alone! Jen |
Posted By: Daizy01
Date Posted: 10 October 2008 at 2:16pm
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Hey There, Jen,
Keep your chin up, mate. Losing weight is not always the easiest task to do. I would not have thought it would have made any difference if you are a little overweight to qualify for publicly funded IVF. Pity. I just wish you both the very best on your IVF path. ------------- 2 ICSI Cycles (Both BFN) |
Posted By: Caronz
Date Posted: 10 October 2008 at 6:50pm
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Hey Jen,
I am in the same boat as you, DF count was 700,000 and I need to lose 30kg as well, I think the system sucks as as fas as we know I am healthy in the fertility department. I thought it would be enough to make me lose weight as well but it wasnt! keep positive Caro |
Posted By: Babykatnz
Date Posted: 10 October 2008 at 7:01pm
Go and visit your GP and tell them a friedn tried Duromine to lose weight for IVF...thats what mine put me on to get the weight down faster, once I got to borderline 32 BMI I would have been on my own again, but that worked for me cos thats what we needed to be for IVF anyways.... as it turned out... the Horny Goat Weed and Menevit def did the trick.... 2 blood tests, 4 HPTs  and a scan all say I am def preg lol... so had to stop with the duromine... and just after I had picked up 2 months worth even...lol!
yu can get Menevit if you go through FA, we went privately right up until we got the verdict of needing IVF.... And using DP as an example... sometimes the professionals can get it all oh-so-wrong... dont give up! Oh and I was 36BMI, and have ov'd like clockwork every month... so no issues here either... I have a DS from prior marriage to prove that too! ------------- Brandon - 05/12/2003
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Posted By: mummy_becks
Date Posted: 10 October 2008 at 8:48pm
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*Lurking* congrats Babykatz But I can agree with the duromine, it is really good to help losing weight. I had a huge water retention problem and my dr put me on this for a month and combined with good eating and exercise I lost 10kgs in a month!!! Hope you can get some. It is a class C controlled drug so some drs are reluctant to prescribe it and it is pricey put so worth it. ------------- I was a puree feeder, forward facing, cot sleeping, pram pushing kind of Mum... and my kids survived! |
Posted By: JenCal
Date Posted: 10 October 2008 at 10:20pm
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Hey thanks everyone for your quick and supportive replies!!
I felt really embarrassed saying that I need to lose 30kgs just to qualify... Will definitely look into duromine. Am upping my walking and have just started winsor pilates too - this weight HAS to go!!! Besides I would prefer to be slimmer when I get pregnant... and I want to lose the weight regardless! |
Posted By: JenCal
Date Posted: 24 November 2008 at 2:07pm
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BUMP!
Hoping that this thread will keep going.... |
Posted By: Kazper
Date Posted: 30 November 2008 at 1:44pm
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Hi there,
Our ICSI IVF is due to male factor as well. We are on our second round of IVF now. Also I had to loose weight and yes it is hard. I had already lost some weight before hand, but the moment I found out I had to, for some reason it was a lot harder. It was also upsetting, because although I would never blame my fiance, the fact I had to loose so much weight before I was considered really hurt, as I am perfectly fertile. Once more, I had to do the treatment/drugs/egg collection etc. Of course I would do anything to have a baby with my lovely fiance, but it feels like a kick in the gut when the doctors say oh no, you must loose weight first. Just stay strong and picture that beautiful baby in your arms at the end of it. It's so worth it.
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Posted By: MindyW
Date Posted: 07 December 2008 at 1:22pm
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Be careful with Duromine ladies, yes it does work to increase metabolism and suppress appetite but it does have some serious side effects too.
I was on Duromine for about a month and while i lost a couple of kilos (could have been that I was eating better too) every time i exercised it felt like my heart was going to jump right out of my chest. I had heart palpitations at rest and sometimes found it hard to catch my breath (which probably didnt help the palpitations) Just be careful, edited for spelling ------------- My Beautiful Little Emily http://lilypie.com"> 
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Posted By: purpledragon
Date Posted: 03 January 2009 at 4:33pm
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Just thought I would bump this back up for the New Year.
We have male infertility due to a reversed vasectomy operation done in Mar 07. We are luck to have some sperm return and although we have pretty good numbers where motility is concerned our count has never been any thing higher than 9million in total. We have done the vitamins for pretty much a year, and they haven't made that much of a difference. We are not going to do the IVF or IUI thing. But I would love to keep chatting with others that are going through this kind of thing as well. Look forward to chatting with you. ------------- Tania & Les Nicholas 18 Vaughn 15 Lisa 10 Tara 5yrs Gestational Surrogate for couple in Whakatane Egg collection week of 4th Oct Embryo transfer week of 11th Oct |
Posted By: missedge
Date Posted: 21 January 2009 at 4:23pm
| Just wondering if someone can give me the answers to a few questions running through my head. Hubby completed SA today with a trial wash as the previous sample wasn't too great post reversal. Turns out that today's is even worse with no sperm seen. Booked the appt with specialist etc for review so will find out next steps - but ?what are our options? Any experiences are welcomed! |
Posted By: missedge
Date Posted: 21 January 2009 at 4:23pm
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Edited because somehow I managed to post that twice! If only I could be that successful in other aspects of my life !!
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Posted By: purpledragon
Date Posted: 21 January 2009 at 5:07pm
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I wonder if there is some sort of infection or swelling or at worst scarring that is blocking the sperm getting through.
May pay to as specialist or doctor about that. ------------- Tania & Les Nicholas 18 Vaughn 15 Lisa 10 Tara 5yrs Gestational Surrogate for couple in Whakatane Egg collection week of 4th Oct Embryo transfer week of 11th Oct |
Posted By: topcat
Date Posted: 16 February 2009 at 12:30am
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I know just how olympics feels. We tried for about the same time and ended up at FA. After DH had biopsy after no sperm count we were told there were no options but to get a donor or adopt. We were devastated, I still have twinges around pregnant women and babies although its been over 2 years since we found out. People have stopped asking when we;re having kids now, thank goodness. I still cry at night sometimes when i thing what could have been[
QUOTE=olympics] Hi all My partner and I tried to conceive for about 18 months before finally seeking help at Fertility Associates. I was completely shocked to find out that our issue was due to him having a low (pretty much zero) sperm count. Up to that point I had imagined it was all me! We don't know why he has no sperm - everything we could think of seemed to be ruled out by the specialist. (We still suspect that it is due to an illness he suffered as a child that meant he was on antibiotics for 18 years but the specialist seems to think there is no research evidence to support this!) Any way we now find ourselves counting on someone donating sperm to be able to conceive. I can 't imagine the guilt my beautiful man must feel every time we see a baby, or every time I get upset at our situation. He is very private about it and so we haven't told anyone about our circumstances. This makes it a bit of a lonely journey but I respect his need for privacy. I emphathise with any one in this situation - it is really hard and I wish you all the luck in the world.[/QUOTE] |
Posted By: mtjt
Date Posted: 25 February 2010 at 2:34pm
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Hello to everyone!
Thought i would drop a line or 2 ... heres my story(short version). DH has sperm antibodies - due to vas reversal and after our 2nd failed ivf cycle while on the pill for our 3rd cycle we recently found out has bad DNA frag damage  makes sense cause we get a good number of eggs but does not end up being good embies at all.
Now after 3 failed ivd/icsi cycles we going back for a review. I have been doing some research on this as due to male factor... TESA maybe a good option to consider as the newest freshest sperm the best, also a sperm sorting machine (new technology not in nz yet i believe). Anyone know much about TESA? did it work? Daunting thinking of yet another cycle. Once we see the Dr again we will know more. Good luck to you all! ------------- TTC 5 years Me 39 & DH 47 (antibodies and DNA frag issue) 1st/2nd/3rd ivf/icsi - Jan,Sept, Dec 09 4th ivf/icsi - May 10 bfn 5th ivf/icsi/tesa Dec 10 6th ivf/icsi/tesa. June 11 |
Posted By: Rubyrock
Date Posted: 26 February 2010 at 7:07am
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Apparently they wanted to do TESA on my poor man due to a chromasome issue.
We eventually decided against it as it was a pretty invasive surgery to retrieve sperm of which there was a small percentage that there would even be any - think it was 5% Plus it may have affected his testosterone and he could have had to have testosterone injections for the rest of his life. We decided the risks far exceeded the success rates and went down the donor sperm path. This was our 3rd IUI with donor sperm and so far - early days yet - has been sucessful. Good luck on your journey ------------- TTC#1 Jan 07 Me 39 DP 41 MFI DI#1&2 Sep & Oct 09 BFN DI#3 Feb 10 BFP - mc @ 9wks DI#4 Jul 10 - BFN DI#5 Aug 10 - BFP - chem pg IVF #1 Aug/Sept 11 - BFP - chem pg |
Posted By: Buttons2
Date Posted: 26 February 2010 at 1:10pm
WOW!! Congratulations Rubyrock 3rd time lucky  So happy for you... wishing you a happy, healthy pregnancy
------------- http://lilypie.com">  
 May 2010
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Posted By: Rubyrock
Date Posted: 26 February 2010 at 5:45pm
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Coor thanks Buttons,
I had heard that it usually takes 3 trys but you sort of pooh pooh it when its yourself. Hasnt quite sunk in yet and is all a bit scarey yet exciting at the same time
All the best for your journey i'll have my FX for you
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Posted By: JaneW
Date Posted: 27 February 2010 at 8:22am
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Hi,
I'm glad this thread started up again, we have male factor infertility too, count is 2 million, motility was 7% and up slightly at 14% with SA a month ago. We are on the waiting list at Hamilton FA for ICSI next October- a 20 month waiting list, I couldn't believe it when I found out how long we would have to wait. But am getting over it now and trying to stay positive and enjoy the next 20 months as time with DH! I have been reading a bit about other ladies on here doing IUI even with a low count and was just wondering if this might be an option for us to try while we are waiting?The FS never mentioned it to us so maybe it's just not possible...does anyone else know much about it? And also was interested about the horny goat weed- I have read about that before but didn't want to waste our money...but now I have seen a success story so might try it! Rubyrock congrats on your BFP-that's awesome! xx |
Posted By: Babykatnz
Date Posted: 15 March 2010 at 1:42pm
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Wow, blast from the past seeing this come back up again.... We are back on the TTC wagon again, seeing as it took so long to concieve Jae, we figured the sooner we start trying, the less likely we will have another big age gap, we are giving ourselves until her 3rd birthday to concieve on our own, and if unsuccessful by then I will be going back to work and trying to save $ for fertility treatment, we are no longer eligible for any publically funded treatment since I already have 2 kids (even though 1 of them isnt Dp's)
congrats rubyrock :) ------------- Brandon - 05/12/2003
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Posted By: Snoopy
Date Posted: 19 March 2010 at 6:59pm
HI JaneW - my DH has low motility and we went through IVF treatment with ICSI. We were not given the option of IUI, probably because my DH's sperm do not swim very well, which means there is a very slim chance that they will reach the egg and penetrate. Hence the ICSI procedure where they physically place the sperm inside the egg, so that it does not have to make the effort to move at all! The waiting list really sucks for infertility doesn't it. We are over in Auckland and were told that it was a 18 mth wait, but because of my age, we cannot wait that long, so we forked out privately - ouch!! At least you have plenty of time to prepare yourself for it - good luck
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Posted By: Flipsta
Date Posted: 22 March 2010 at 3:26pm
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Hey girls,
My DH has motility issues and is on Menevit. You can now get it from the pharmacy which makes things a bit easier! It has had some good write ups for improving sperm quality. All the best to you all and congrats Rubyrock! ------------- TTC since Oct 07 Clomid Oct 08-Feb09 - BFN's Lap done and endo excised April 09 3 x IUI's - BFN's IVF - Sept 10 |
Posted By: Snoopy
Date Posted: 22 March 2010 at 3:33pm
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Hi Flipsta, my DH was also on Menevit, altho there was a slight improvement in his sperm, we still needed to undergo ICSI to conceive. I see that you are in the IVF thread - I hope your journey is successful hun Hopefully, you'll be able to join us in the babies due after ivf thread soon - fingers crossed X (there is only two of us in there at present, so we desparately need more little beans
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Posted By: Flipsta
Date Posted: 23 March 2010 at 9:53am
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Hey Snoopy, yes I see you in the IVF thread!!
Wonderful to see you got your BFP after doing your ICSI...fantastic stuff. Look forward to chatting with you in the IVF thread... ------------- TTC since Oct 07 Clomid Oct 08-Feb09 - BFN's Lap done and endo excised April 09 3 x IUI's - BFN's IVF - Sept 10 |
Posted By: kiwikt
Date Posted: 19 April 2010 at 4:52pm
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It looks like I am going to be in the same boat as a lot of you ladies.
DH has had his first count and it is 3 million, 25% motility. Test again in 10 days so we will see. My tests are all good at the moment so it looks like it is all down to DH at the moment. We havent been trying for very long - only 8 months TTC, but I am glad we got checked out. If we do need to have IVF (which the doctor is leaning towards at the moment if DH's tests stay the same), we will go private. The waiting lists are too long and we both want to start a family now. We only found out all this news last week and I think DH is feeling less like a man at the moment. I am 100% confident we will be able to have a family, but he seems to think he has let me down. Did anyone else have this problem? ------------- Due 14/10/11 http://lilypie.com"> 
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Posted By: Snoopy
Date Posted: 21 April 2010 at 5:37pm
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Hi Kiwikt, I think it's the most natural reaction from a man to behave like this. I know my DH felt a little mythed by it all, but with a little reassurance he got over it, and of course, not is all lost, because our first ivf cycle with icsi succeeded - I am now 16 wks pregnant, so I hope my success inspires you
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Posted By: Babykatnz
Date Posted: 25 April 2010 at 5:33pm
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kiwikt, thats one of the reasons I found boards like this one very useful, where i could talk about the struggle to concieve, without making DP feel even worse that he wasn't able to give me the baby we wanted so badly... I didnt really talk about it to him except to let him know AF was here so we couldnt 'do' anything... I felt like it would be rubbing it in his face if I talked about anything TTC related to him!
Good on you for getting proactive about the tests, we did our first lot after 9 months actively TTC (12 months without birth control) and I am glad we did otherwise it would have taken even longer to get our baby! ------------- Brandon - 05/12/2003
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Posted By: kiwikt
Date Posted: 30 April 2010 at 1:17pm
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Update on the tests...
DH got his second sperm test results today. And they are as bad as the first. I need to book in to see the fertility specialist in the next few weeks but she told us originally if the second tests were as bad as the first then we would need IVF. Looks like my holiday to Rarotonga will be put on hold so we can afford the first round of IVF. Sink. Will need to go home and give DH a hug tonight...I think he is feeling really bad. ------------- Due 14/10/11 http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: Ceres
Date Posted: 30 April 2010 at 3:13pm
Really sorry to hear that kiwikt, hugs to you too  . We're in much the same boat (slightly higher numbers, DH has had two SAs come back at 7M and 8M), and I have clomiphene-resistant annovulatory PCOS which I've recently had surgery for to try and improve. We're heading for IVF too, though publicly as our funding comes up in January. It's not easy to go through this, for either party. Hang in there, it's wonderful that you can get started with IVF quickly, and hopefully your wee miracle happens in the not too distant future. Where are you based in the country? You may already know this, but if you're in Auckland Fertility Plus seems to be quite a lot cheaper than Fertility Associates.
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Posted By: kiwikt
Date Posted: 30 April 2010 at 3:33pm
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Ceres - not to long to wait then...January will be here before you know it. It sucks you have to deal with both sperm problems and PCOS. I am so grateful for the technology today.
We are in Auckland, and am already with Fertility Associates. I have heard Fertility Plus is cheaper, but we will probably stay with FA because I like my specialist. I think the difference is a couple of grand, and when you are talking the difference between $10k or $12k it doesnt feel that significant. Either way the bank account is going to look sick for a while! ------------- Due 14/10/11 http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: Ceres
Date Posted: 30 April 2010 at 4:01pm
| Ahh, if you're at FA I take it you're with Mary Birdsall? Absolutely understand wanting to stick with her, she seems wonderful. Best of luck! |
Posted By: mtjt
Date Posted: 01 May 2010 at 2:47pm
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Hello to you all..
This will be out 4th round of ivf/icsi - ouch! DH has not only got sperm antibodies due to vas reversal but we just found out DNA damage too...! 
He has just had a TESA procedure done (he was pleasently suprised it wasnt that bad..) so got frozen swimmers and hoping for better quality as these little guys are brand new.. See the thing is that the damage can be also due to being in body too long (takes 3 mths to make sperm so when ejaculated sperm its 3mths old already ) hard to understand aye... OMG tell ya what a rollercoaster... im now on the pill and will be starting my injections soon im sure when i get the call from FA to collect... Has anyone had the same issues as us and had the tesa procedure and got a bfp??? love to know as we are soooo hoping for this to work.. ------------- TTC 5 years Me 39 & DH 47 (antibodies and DNA frag issue) 1st/2nd/3rd ivf/icsi - Jan,Sept, Dec 09 4th ivf/icsi - May 10 bfn 5th ivf/icsi/tesa Dec 10 6th ivf/icsi/tesa. June 11 |
Posted By: JaneW
Date Posted: 02 May 2010 at 8:21pm
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Kiwikt, our story is similar to yours...after ttc for about 9 months we asked to have some tests done , we just had a feeling something was wrong and we were right, DH's count was 2million and motility 7%, he has been on menevit for about 6 months since then but no improvement...not in numbers anyway. We are on the public funded waiting list and doing ICSI next July, I think it's great that you are doing a private cycle, I keep swinging that way myself as I can't stand the waiting and not being able to do anything, but DH just wants to wait until the funded cycle which is fair enough. He too felt like he had let me down hugely when we found out we were dealing with MFI, my tests have all come back okay so far so he feels gutted that I am the one who has to go through all the invasive IVF stuff....but I have never though of it that way, to me we are in this together and I always try to refer to it as 'our' thing. Mtjt, Good luck for your 4th round...I don't know too much about tesa although it has been brought up by our FS if DH's count keeps getting lower...That's good that your DH didn't find it as bad as he thought it would be! I notice you're in tauranga too...are you part of the support group there?I was just at my first meeting a few weeks ago, found it great.Anyway hope everything goes well for you and fingers crossed your bfp isn't too far away. |
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Date Posted: 17 May 2010 at 6:16pm
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Posted By: Snoopy
Date Posted: 17 May 2010 at 6:50pm
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Hi Swampy10 - just want to wish you luck on your next donor transfer tomorrow, I shall keep everything crossed for you. I know what you mean about the 2ww, it always goes so slowly, but try and keep yourself busy and distract yourself as much as poss - look after yourself and I look forward to hearing (hopefully) about your BFP xxxxx |
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Date Posted: 17 May 2010 at 7:26pm
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Posted By: mtjt
Date Posted: 19 May 2010 at 9:00pm
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Hi girls...
Its been a while since i have been here but now about to embark on ivf number 4 - eeeek...
DH had TESA procedure done recently and looks like they have 5 x tubes on ice (they had to sacrifice the 6th one to check if swimmers survived the thaw ) They tell me that they may only need 2 of the 5 tubes for our next cycle... so thats good i hope?? We will be paying for this (our 2nd private cycle) and picking up drugs etc tomorrow. Will be on the short flare cycle again this time.. Im feeling bit numb and actually until now have not really thought much about it, but hey once those injections start yep will be thinking bout this 24/7... Fingers crossed this time!!! we are soooo praying for this to work as we are now doing something different with the tesa sperm.. Has anyone else had positive results from TESA sperm?? Love to hear comments !! ------------- TTC 5 years Me 39 & DH 47 (antibodies and DNA frag issue) 1st/2nd/3rd ivf/icsi - Jan,Sept, Dec 09 4th ivf/icsi - May 10 bfn 5th ivf/icsi/tesa Dec 10 6th ivf/icsi/tesa. June 11 |
Posted By: Caronz
Date Posted: 20 May 2010 at 4:49pm
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Hi all, I havent shown my face in here for ages but we also have male factor issues, We tried ont round of IVF with ICSI, I responded really well but as soon as DF boys were added to the mix the stats went right down, from 18eggs at collection to only 1 being put back. Sadly that didnt work and after much sole searching we decided to use a doner, we were lucky and had a friend offer. I am SO pleased that we decided to take that option as we are now the proud parents of a happy and healthy 11 month old, and we are getting ready to do it all again! It wasnt an easy thing to decide to do but we are so pleased that we did. I dont think DF could love our boy any more than he does. He is his dad and DS is such a Daddys boy. It was the best thing we ever decided to do and cant wait to do it again for #2!
NEN10- DF loves to tell everyone that I was impregnated by a woman! It was after a very non romantic breakfast and a trip to the classic car auction to kill time and take our minds off what lay ahead!!!! |
Posted By: Snoopy
Date Posted: 21 May 2010 at 9:47am
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NEN10 - sending lots of sticky vibes your way hun and look forward to hearing of that well deserved BFP mtjt - nice to see you still around, I remember you from the IVF thread Caronz - what a lovely success story, it's always an inspiration for these lovely ladies on this forum and also shows them, that even if they fail to get pregnant with their DH's sperm, there is always an alternative of a donor. You have a little son - how marvellous, makes it all feel worth it when you get a little bundle of joy at the end doesn't it
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Posted By: mtjt
Date Posted: 22 May 2010 at 4:00pm
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Hello again to you all.
Yep Snoopy i too remember you!! Well we picked up our drugs and paid for these - ouch
Start the injections monday and EC week will be sometime around week fo 7 june.. so not long now.. We are doing something different so am sooooo hoping that the TESA sperm (sperm taken out of testis) will be much better quality and with no dna frag issues so will get us good 8 cell embies and a BFP!!! Caronnz - congrats on your little boy and good luck with bub #2. Its still amazing that you can experience a pregnancy and you and DH can still experience the joy of a new baby in your arms (even though technically donors sperm), Is your friend in your babys life at all? The reason im a bit curious is that the "donor" sperm question has been suggested to us to maybe think about. (much to my despair) as this is an option if we can get preggers with DH sperm after our last try.. The donor issue is another subject completely and probably requires a whole lot of research and thought... Still im thrilled for you and good luck!! ------------- TTC 5 years Me 39 & DH 47 (antibodies and DNA frag issue) 1st/2nd/3rd ivf/icsi - Jan,Sept, Dec 09 4th ivf/icsi - May 10 bfn 5th ivf/icsi/tesa Dec 10 6th ivf/icsi/tesa. June 11 |
Posted By: Hope1
Date Posted: 24 May 2010 at 3:54pm
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Hi all- mtjt and caronnz- just touching base- it was great to read Caronnz's post as we are about to do our 3rd private cycle with donor.
You are right mtjt- its such a hard decision and it may have been a bit easier for us as DH was in favour of it. He has 3 children already so doesnt have that desire for it to be his own child- and he knows this is my/our dream together- our specialist said we had >50% dna frag, and as we had spent so much $$$$ we knew that this was the best option for us. But you are right- you HAVE to be ready for it. I so hope that this cycle is the one for you and that you get a BFP. We won't be far off each other. ------------- IVF #1 May 09- BFP then missed miscarriage at 8 weeks TER Oct 09 BFN IVF#2 Dec 09 BFN (1 emby only) IVF #3 Donor- June 10 BFN (1 emby only!) IVF #4 Donor- Nov 26th- 2 embies on board! |
Posted By: Caronz
Date Posted: 27 May 2010 at 10:05pm
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I hope that I can give you all a little bit of hope with my story. It really is the most wonderful thing.
mtjt- The doner and his family(wife+kids) were good friends before and nothing has changed. We also wondered about how it would change our friend ship but it hasnt at all. They are still good friends, they dont intrude, they dont over step the mark, but they are there if we need them and we still see them about the same amount as we did. They gave us an amazing gift we have no idea how we could ever thank them. I guess the best way we can thank them is to be the best parents we can be. We will be going back to the clinic in the next few months so I might join back in on these threads, Ill keep you all posted. |
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Date Posted: 29 May 2010 at 2:39pm
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Posted By: Babykatnz
Date Posted: 29 May 2010 at 4:45pm
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NEN10, DP went through that when we got our test results too... told me he was 'useless' and I should just leave him and find someone else since he couldnt give me the child we wanted so much...
Oooh, sounds very promising! My bfp with Jae was on 13DPO (AF usually due 12DPO in the morning)and was SO faint, it wouldnt even show on a photo, but the next morning was very clear (and very fast!) bfp...BT on 15DPO showed an hcg level of 220 Good luck with your blood test, but I reckon another HPT tomorrow or Monday morning will have your proof ------------- Brandon - 05/12/2003
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Posted By: mtjt
Date Posted: 29 May 2010 at 5:26pm
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Hello to you all
Yeah i know what you mean about DH giving you the "outclause". My DH said he would be upset but would understand if i left him... Well, gotta be honest the thought did cross my mind when going thru testing times as we are now but i married him and have made that commitment and with his support i know we can work thru this.. You know what we have NOT given up and we are in the middle of our 4th cycle and this time using DH Testicular sperm in hope that we do get BFP!!! Dunno why but i am in the process of injections and feel quite relaxed about this... is it because "here we go again" or is it because finally we are trying something different with DH Tesa sperm?? or what?? We know what we are in for and i guess the 2ww is probably the longest hardest wait in your life!!! good luck to us all!! ------------- TTC 5 years Me 39 & DH 47 (antibodies and DNA frag issue) 1st/2nd/3rd ivf/icsi - Jan,Sept, Dec 09 4th ivf/icsi - May 10 bfn 5th ivf/icsi/tesa Dec 10 6th ivf/icsi/tesa. June 11 |
Posted By: mtjt
Date Posted: 30 May 2010 at 9:17pm
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Hi girls :)
Just watched TV1 Sunday with JJ and Doms ivf journey.. and it was their 4th round they just completed with a bfn
Tears were rolling down my face watching this as we are also in the middle of our 4th cycle... gosh its just soooo like what we are going thru with the injections, hormonal ups and downs, the egg collection and the dreaded 2ww... etc etc... Im feeling bloated and i can start to feel my ovaries as the Gonal is working... my first BT tomorrow so that will be interesting. My DH had the same procedure as Dom whereby they take Sperm directly from Testis. This is something new for us and we have not done this TESA before so fingers crossed that this time it may work... its hard to get too excited as i know what its like to be let down.. Good luck to us all!! ------------- TTC 5 years Me 39 & DH 47 (antibodies and DNA frag issue) 1st/2nd/3rd ivf/icsi - Jan,Sept, Dec 09 4th ivf/icsi - May 10 bfn 5th ivf/icsi/tesa Dec 10 6th ivf/icsi/tesa. June 11 |
Posted By: BabydollNZ
Date Posted: 06 June 2010 at 8:43am
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Hi everyone - what a great find! Hope it's still active .
My DH and I have been trying for 6 1/2 years now. Initially it was both us with bits not working as they should. There's enough of DH's boys (between 10-15 million so thats good but not great) - the problem is they are seriously misguided and not the prettiest of specimens. I was diagnosed with PCOS probably due to my weight. But after gastric bypass surgery about 18 months ago I now seem to be all in working order, and very regular. We've been on the Akld waiting list for IVF/ICSI since Sept 09 and we just had our orientation at the end of May. So we are booked in at F/Plus for August. I did a quick calculation (coz I just can't help myself) and I should be on Day 1 on Aug 1! Nen10 - how are you doing? Any news for us? |
Posted By: rachb
Date Posted: 19 June 2010 at 8:29pm
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Hi everyone,
BabydollNZ - i agree this has been a great find. Nen10 - I also got the out clause. At the end of the day its what you make of it, its good to hear that alot of your partners use menevit. We have been put on the waiting list at hamilton FA. hopefully the wait won't be too long. Good luck to all of you
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Posted By: mtjt
Date Posted: 26 June 2010 at 2:56pm
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Hello to you all
Thought i better update you - well 4th cycle was another bfn :((( had about 6 eggs but none ended up decent embies Absolutely gutted!
Since then i have been searching for answers and seems that maybe we may go get some advice from a Naturopath this time and get onto some decent herbs/supplelements prior to our next cycle due in October. These supplements will be good for us both and particularly DH as he has sperm antibodies and DNA frag issues. (thats why our problems).. when i spoke to the naturapath on the phone she was telling me that more and more men are having issues in fertility and also the dna issues... She seemed to know about this problem and says she recommends a consultation and then she can put us on a course of herbs etc - she recommends at least 3 mths of this prior to trying to concieve... Who knows we will try anything!! I had a post on another forum by a girl who said they went on naturopath herbs/supplements and within 3 mths got preggers naturally!! Her DH had bad sperm dna damage... so thats very encouraging isnt it.. Thats my quick update... any comments most welcome :) ------------- TTC 5 years Me 39 & DH 47 (antibodies and DNA frag issue) 1st/2nd/3rd ivf/icsi - Jan,Sept, Dec 09 4th ivf/icsi - May 10 bfn 5th ivf/icsi/tesa Dec 10 6th ivf/icsi/tesa. June 11 |
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Date Posted: 26 June 2010 at 4:48pm
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Posted By: rachb
Date Posted: 26 June 2010 at 8:42pm
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mtjt - i'm sorry also to hear about your BFN, good luck with your next cycle in oct - hope you have some luck with the natropath as well.
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Posted By: Snoopy
Date Posted: 27 June 2010 at 9:41am
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mtjt - sorry about your BFN hun - I know how much you were balancing on this one you poor love. These things never get easier do they! I am sooo glad you are going down the naturopathic path, you need to remain positive and just go through all the options available to you. As the others have said, it's worth a try. Sending bucket loads of success to you and I look forward to hearing from you in the future when you return to try again. Take care xxxx |
Posted By: mtjt
Date Posted: 27 June 2010 at 9:55am
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thanks Nen10, Rachb and Snoopy for your kind words..
Gosh this is hard isnt it! ggrhhh! Anyway as im back on the vinos - im really back to normal now so not really thinking about it like i was when going thru the cycle. We have our review appointment with FA end of July to discuss what went wrong and were to from here so that will be interesting. DH and i plan to go to AKL to see a naturapath very soon to discuss what we should do as i know they recommend at least 3 mths of preconception care and hopefully this may improve our situation. At least we are not alone - all you girls here have the same/similar issues with male infertility and its becoming more and more common! scary huh! All the best to you all xoxox ------------- TTC 5 years Me 39 & DH 47 (antibodies and DNA frag issue) 1st/2nd/3rd ivf/icsi - Jan,Sept, Dec 09 4th ivf/icsi - May 10 bfn 5th ivf/icsi/tesa Dec 10 6th ivf/icsi/tesa. June 11 |
Posted By: Babykatnz
Date Posted: 30 June 2010 at 11:03am
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mtjt, sorry to see yet another cycle has left you with nothing... I cant imagine how hard it must be to go through cycle after cycle, with nothing for all your effort at the end...
As for us... Horny goat weed strikes again (with a bit of clomid thrown in for me ) and it looks like our family will grow by 2 feet come march... it is really early days (hell, I'm not even officially supposed to know given I am 11DPO!) so there is the fear of miscarrying since its happened to us twice before... but we will cross that bridge if and when we need to... for now I am just thrilled that it didnt take nearly as long to concieve this time!------------- Brandon - 05/12/2003
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Posted By: Caronz
Date Posted: 01 July 2010 at 9:39am
| Hi everyone, I bit the bullet and called FA yesterday, we are going to see Dr next thurs and hopefully we can start DI again soon. I dont know if I am ready to get back on this rollercoaster but I am ready to have another baby and since mother nature isnt helping out here I think we will have to leave it to the Dr's to do it. There is the usual raft of emotions running through my head but Im trying not to think about it too much. Just hoping we cant start again soon as the waiting really sucks. |
Posted By: Babykatnz
Date Posted: 01 July 2010 at 10:14am
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Caro, wishing you all the best, hopefully we'll get to add another sibling to our June 09 babies soon!!
Not sure if this will help you, but I was able to relax a little bit this time around as I have had Jae to keep me from dwelling too much on how long it might take, or what we would have to try (in the end it wasnt much at all, which I am still stunned about!) I hope that ends up being the case for you Caro, that nathan helps keep your mind off all the upcoming procedures etc... ------------- Brandon - 05/12/2003
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Posted By: Caronz
Date Posted: 01 July 2010 at 4:12pm
| Cheers Lisa, I hope so too. Its more the waiting for the clinic to sort their sh*t out that drags on so long, once we start the ball rolling it wil be all good Im sure! fingers crossed for a speedy BFP for everyone |
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Date Posted: 03 July 2010 at 1:48pm
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Posted By: Snoopy
Date Posted: 03 July 2010 at 2:00pm
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Congrats Nen10 - what fabulous news hun. You must be in cloud 9 - enjoy your pregnancy ------------- http://lilypie.com"> ">
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Posted By: rachb
Date Posted: 03 July 2010 at 9:27pm
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NED10 - that is excellent news, how exciting for you. Hope everything goes well with your pregnancy!! ------------- http://lilypie.com"> 
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Posted By: Caronz
Date Posted: 06 July 2010 at 9:53pm
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Posted By: Caronz
Date Posted: 08 July 2010 at 1:09pm
| We went back to the clinic today, have to go right back to the start with all the blood test and have to see the counselor again too, Was hoping to be able to skip some of the process for DI since we have already done it once but that doesnt seam to be the case. Oh well, at least the ball is rolling and I have jumped on the Rollercoaster ride. Im hanging on tight, but hoping its not going to be a long ride |
Posted By: trouble06
Date Posted: 06 August 2010 at 5:11pm
| Hi thought that I would introduce myself I am living in aussie but find this forum better than the aussie ones. Me and DH have been trying for at least three years finally have got a referral to specialist. Initial tests show that DH has low mobility and low count. We have appt at fertility specialist in two weeks which is sooner than what I imagined. Good to know that there are successes out there. |
Posted By: Snoopy
Date Posted: 06 August 2010 at 6:07pm
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Hi trouble06, good luck with your appt with the fertility specialist - I'm sure they will paint a clearer picture for you and give you some options. My DH has low motility issues, so we were advised to go for IVF treatment, and luckily first time round I got pregnant, so I am a success story and I hope that inspires you for your journey. Has your DH been taking Menevit at all, usually this is something that the fertility specialists like them to do for 3 months and then to get tested again? Even tho this did improve DH's sperm motility, it was still not enough to get pregnant sadly. Look forward to following your progress hun ------------- http://lilypie.com"> ">
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Posted By: hoping
Date Posted: 06 August 2010 at 6:30pm
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Snoopy if you don't mind me asking did you do ICSI?? I've just started my first round of IVF/ICSI - it's so great to hear of a first time success!! Not sure if I have already corresponded with you about this?? I lose track a bit with all the different names
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Posted By: Snoopy
Date Posted: 06 August 2010 at 6:39pm
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Hi Hoping, no, you haven't corresponded with me before - I know what you mean about keeping up with names, I get confused myself sometimes ------------- http://lilypie.com"> ">
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. Yes, we did IVF with ICSI, only one of our little embies survived, so we feel very fortunate that it was successful. Good luck with your journey flower - I do occasionally check out the IVF forum so I shall watch out for you Posted By: trouble06
Date Posted: 06 August 2010 at 7:29pm
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Thanks - no he hasnt tried it yet. Might go to the specialist and see what he recommends.
I feel extremely lucky living in AU at the moment especially with Medicare rebates on IVF treatment etc. If I was still living in NZ think I would have waited a while to be seen under the public system. Since I am 35 now I feel lucky that we now have had tests done so we can determine what we need to do going forward. I know other people have recommend cutting out or cutting back on caffiene, and alcohol etc? Do you think it makes a difference? |
Posted By: Snoopy
Date Posted: 07 August 2010 at 6:51pm
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Hi troubleo6, wow Medicare dish out rebates for IVF - that's great. Nothing like that over here unfortunately! I wish that our private medical insurance had covered it, but nothing like that in NZ either
As for your question on cutting back on caffeine and alcohol, I would defo do both of these, I think the healthier you are, the more chance your body has of responding - plus it doesn't hurt to give it a go either - good luck my love, and keep us updated x ------------- http://lilypie.com"> ">
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. I'm originally from the UK, and I know that they have medical insurance that will cover IVF! We had no choice but to dig deep into our pockets as we could not wait for the publicly funded cycle, as it's approx a 18 mth wait
. I turned 38 recently, and I too am soooo glad that we had lots of tests done sooner rather than later - you can't hang around when you get to our age gal Posted By: rachb
Date Posted: 07 August 2010 at 7:32pm
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Snoopy - I'm glad to hear that you had a BFP after your first IVF/ICSI - we are in the same boat and are going to have our first treatment in FEb 2012, I secretly can't wait even though its so far away.
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Posted By: Snoopy
Date Posted: 08 August 2010 at 8:39am
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Hi rachb, the menevit did make some improvements, but not enough in our situation. It depends on how bad the sperm issues are with your DH, but it is something definitely worth trying.
As for Elevit, I took this all through my IVF treatment and for the first 14 weeks of pregnancy, but after that I started to get bad constipation and tummy aches, and my MW advised that I come off it. Due to the high doseage of iron in it, it sometimes can have this effect on pregnant people - and the fact that I have more than enough iron in my system just meant I was overdosing on it!
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Posted By: trouble06
Date Posted: 08 August 2010 at 10:04pm
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Thanks for the friendly replies. yeah once you have hit about $1,000 in out of pocket expenses in a calendar year Medicare rebates you about 80% of the cost - so I think a round end up costs about $2,000 all up plus any other drugs etc. I think there is also a public system over here with IVF but not qute sure how it works?
Probably hardest thing over here in AU has been seeing a doctor to take us seriously in relation to not getting pregnant - I visited three different ones before I found a woman GP who saw both me and DH at same time and finally provided referral for me - whch is what specialist needs to get Medicare to cover you. We have decided not to have private insurance over here only thing it covers you for is hospital stays etc - and I dont see the point in paying the additional $$$ anyway. I will speak to FS and see whether DH should start taking menevit. Both of us have been good recently with diet, reducing coffee alcohol etc. One thing that has been good for us is that it has made our relationship stronger than ever which is good - it is a joint problem and one we will jointly go through. Have a good week. |
Posted By: mtjt
Date Posted: 09 August 2010 at 10:04pm
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Hello girls,
I have recently found a website -"biocoat incorporated" that claims to help select the best sperm in the ivf/icsi process with some sort of hyalouric (spelling?) acid where the good sperm binds to this and then the embryologist can then pick that sperm to inject to egg - therefore better embryo. I have given this info to our Dr at FA in hamilton to pursue this further.. We have sperm dna fragmentation issues and also sperm antibodies so would like to know if anyone else has any comments on this.. This maybe a breakthru... heres hoping! ------------- TTC 5 years Me 39 & DH 47 (antibodies and DNA frag issue) 1st/2nd/3rd ivf/icsi - Jan,Sept, Dec 09 4th ivf/icsi - May 10 bfn 5th ivf/icsi/tesa Dec 10 6th ivf/icsi/tesa. June 11 |
Posted By: GuestGuest
Date Posted: 30 May 2011 at 4:25pm
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Bump for Booboo
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Posted By: IVFGirl1111
Date Posted: 31 May 2011 at 1:46pm
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Awesome thanks LR! ------------- TTC 6 years IVF it is IVF/ICSI round one 10 eggs, 8 mature, 3 fertilised BFN IVF/ICSI #2 = 22 eggs! 20 mature, 15 fertilised, 1 fresh transfer and 2 frosties BFN 2 Frosties still in freezer thank god |
Posted By: Diana269199
Date Posted: 03 September 2021 at 7:51pm
Sorry for chiming in to the thread so late, just wanted to add my 2 cents. Yoga can totally help you lose weight if that's your goal. Yoga burns calories when done the right way, that's for sure! If you are serious about losing weight and getting fit, you might want to implement a 60-minute power yoga and/or vinyasa flow practice at least five to six days per week. https://yogaweightloss365.com/" rel="nofollow - This yoga weight loss program was easy to follow and worked flawlessly for me. Each class is easy to follow, but is varied and enjoyable. Dynamic Sequencing means you'll always be challenged regardless of your current level. If you want to follow my example, think about coupling your practice with a whole foods diet for optimal results. Good luck! Mandy |
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