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Topic: Boobs on Bikes
Posted By: mummy_becks
Subject: Boobs on Bikes
Date Posted: 19 August 2008 at 1:41pm

What is your opinion on this???

I am quite happy for it to go ahead, if I was in Auckland I would probably go down to Queen Street to watch it.

I honestly don't see the big fuss about it, if you don't want to see them don't look.



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Posted By: cuppatea
Date Posted: 19 August 2008 at 1:48pm
Hahaha, i was gonna start a thread about this too.

I don't care either way. I wouldn't go and watch and i think it is a little sad that so many men turn up just to see some boobs but I don't think it warrants being banned.

On the TV the other day a lady was saying that if it was to raise money for Herceptin or to promote breastfeeding she would be in support of it but as it is she doesn't see it as necessary but also not so bothered she would protest against it. Pretty much summed up my feelings on it too.

The guy presenter said he wasn't interested cos all the boobs are fake anyway...lol

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Posted By: HippyMama
Date Posted: 19 August 2008 at 2:21pm
Lots of things in this world are unnecessary - but we have to pick our battles wisely.

Personally, not offended - they're *just* boobies ~shrug~

So, it doesn't bother me in the least. Even if they do happen to be 'enhanced', they're still part of a woman's natural anatomy, and if you're comfortable showing them off to that many people - good for you.

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Posted By: kebakat
Date Posted: 19 August 2008 at 2:34pm
I don't care. I think those who don't like it just need to learn not to watch it. If I was up there I'd go have a look to see what the fuss was all about.


Posted By: ohanlon82
Date Posted: 19 August 2008 at 2:35pm
Same here - does not really bother me either way...



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Posted By: .Mel
Date Posted: 19 August 2008 at 2:52pm
Doesn't worry me either. I went to one of the parades about two years ago.. theres some boobies there allright, I have to say it's quite funny watching the crowd, especially guys with there cameras and phones clicking away.

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Posted By: Andie
Date Posted: 19 August 2008 at 3:08pm
I'm not a fan of it! Boobs, yep, they're great to have and all, but I'm just not a fan of showing them off to that extent!

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Posted By: arohanui
Date Posted: 19 August 2008 at 4:30pm
Well at the risk of getting flamed I'm gonna go against the grain and say it really bothers me... if I was in town with my child, I would find it really hard to explain to them and to tell the truth I really would be angry that they had seen that. It's done in a very 'adult' way and should not be in a public place where there could be children around. Sure yeah don't go if you don't wanna see it, but what about those people who haven't heard anything about it and don't know about it?? I'm thinking of tourists to NZ etc, or people who maybe don't speak English or just live with their head in the sand and don't watch the tv or read newspapers.

It makes me really angry that if I was walking down the street topless I'd get arrested for indecent exposure, yet a whole heap of women in sexual clothing on the back of motorbikes will not?!?! Is that not more indecent exposure?! And I remember a protester outside parliament a few years ago getting arrested because she was topless. How is that any different?!

Sorry it's just one of those things that gets to me.....

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Posted By: george
Date Posted: 19 August 2008 at 4:36pm
Seeing boobs in public doesn't bother me at all - it's the shameless free advertising that Steve Crow has been able to get at the cost of Auckland rate payers!!!! Not to mention the nightmare traffic jam that it causes!

Do it somewhere where it's not going to cause traffic jams and to waste valuable police time.

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Posted By: sunnyhoney
Date Posted: 19 August 2008 at 5:21pm
Does Steve Crow's Show really need the extra advertising?? Probably not as all those who follow will all know about it anyways.

I agree with Arohanui & George and would like to add that it does not set a good example for our daughters (or sons for that matter). It portrays women as objects and teaches our young boys disrespect for women. I don't think I would like it if it were my daughter out there displaying her body in that manner.

If you think it's great and don't mind then ok. I feel quite strongly about it though. My take on it is if this is "ok" today, what on earth is "ok" tomorrow?

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Posted By: JadeC
Date Posted: 19 August 2008 at 5:24pm
Originally posted by arohanui arohanui wrote:


It makes me really angry that if I was walking down the street topless I'd get arrested for indecent exposure, yet a whole heap of women in sexual clothing on the back of motorbikes will not?!?!


According to the stuff article it's not illegal.
Originally posted by Stuff Article Stuff Article wrote:

Females walking down the street bare-breasted was not unlawful.

http://stuff.co.nz/4661643a11.html - Stuff article


I'm fine with it. Like someone else said I wish it was for a good cause.

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Posted By: caitlynsmygirl
Date Posted: 19 August 2008 at 6:09pm
im not that interested in it , I have my own


Posted By: Paws
Date Posted: 19 August 2008 at 7:03pm
Sorry but I'm with Arohanui, george and sunnyhoney on this...I don't have a problem with the expo but as for the parade I don't like it and don't see the need the for it. Granted I don't have to look at it but as someone else said...what about people who don't know that it is going on.

And I know I would not want Miss M out there displaying herself like that.

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Posted By: busymum
Date Posted: 19 August 2008 at 7:11pm
I think it's disgusting. Not boobs themselves, but a public, in-your-face exhibition of it. Get real, if it's not to attract sexual interests then what is?? What would bug me the most is if I had to take the kids into town on a boobs parade day and for them to see that. It ought to be limited to TV after 8.30pm.

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Posted By: Chovynz
Date Posted: 19 August 2008 at 7:36pm
Mmmmmmmmm boobies

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Posted By: Chovynz
Date Posted: 19 August 2008 at 7:39pm
Originally posted by JadeC JadeC wrote:

Originally posted by arohanui arohanui wrote:


It makes me really angry that if I was walking down the street topless I'd get arrested for indecent exposure, yet a whole heap of women in sexual clothing on the back of motorbikes will not?!?!


According to the stuff article it's not illegal.
Originally posted by Stuff Article Stuff Article wrote:

Females walking down the street bare-breasted was not unlawful.

http://stuff.co.nz/4661643a11.html - Stuff article


I'm fine with it. Like someone else said I wish it was for a good cause.


http://www.legislation.govt.nz/act/public/1981/0113/latest/whole.html#DLM53587

Originally posted by the Law the Law wrote:

27 Indecent exposure

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      (1) Every person is liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 3 months or a fine not exceeding $2,000 who, in or within view of any public place, intentionally and obscenely exposes any part of his or her genitals.

      (2) It is a defence in a prosecution under this section if the defendant proves that he or she had reasonable grounds for believing that he or she would not be observed.

      Compare: 1927 No 35 s 47; 1967 No 154 s 2(1)

      Section 27 was amended, as from 1 January 1998, by section 7 Summary Offences Amendment Act 1997 (1997 No 97) by substituting the expression "“$2,000”" for the expression "“$1,000”".


If anyone arrests you for walking down the street topless, you can rightly tell them to get lost and laugh in their face.

Anyone else find it weird that not many guys are complaining about women going topless? I think it's mostly some women or older men who complain about it.

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Posted By: lizzle
Date Posted: 19 August 2008 at 7:43pm
I think it is appalling. i'm pretty liberal but breasts are being exposed for a sexual reason - do it in private, or where people can chose to go or not, not in a public area.

As for the guy on talkback today who said it was no different from women being able to breastfeed where-ever they want....pfffft


Posted By: Chovynz
Date Posted: 19 August 2008 at 7:59pm
That guy is an idiot.

Breastfeeding is a completely different purpose, and is looking after the child.
Men who complain about breastfeeding women should go and get some pirate patchs (two) and be made to walk around in the streets... "ooo what if I see that 16 year breastfeeding her kid??!?!?" Come on. What idiotic male complains about breastfeeding women?

Theres been such a stink about breastfeeding that many women are ashamed of a perfectly natural nurturing function, and any male who complains about that should get over their own ego.

Boobs on bikes is another matter entirely as the Sex Expo, and parade is nothing more than to show the sensual side of boobs, and that, I believe, is the wrong way of doing it. For example, if a guy is trying to keep himself for his wife (and how many women want their guy to themselves?---most of them dont want to share their guys - right ladies?) having an open air strip show is difficult for that guy to not look.

Men like breasts. Plain fact. I like breasts. I like looking at breasts. I try to stick to looking and enjoying my wifes only, but in this world that is difficult to keep to.

Of course, all the guys who go to that parade are there for the bikes....

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Posted By: Two Blondinis
Date Posted: 19 August 2008 at 8:32pm
I'm not happy about it for the same reasons the other ladies gave, about having to explain that to a young child. But on the other hand there's that constant evil called "freedom of speech".

I wonder if a parade, organised by women, of hunky guys wearing nothing but a tiny leather thong would be alllowed? (or even stir up as much publicity? You can't pay for advertising like this!!!)

And as for anyone having issues with women breast feeding in a public place - get over it! I think it is the most natural and selfless thing for a mother to do and the only reason that guy has an issue with it is because he has turned that nurturing act into something perverse and crude!

*steps down from soap box*

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Posted By: 2bmumof3
Date Posted: 19 August 2008 at 8:41pm
Originally posted by arohanui arohanui wrote:

but what about those people who haven't heard anything about it and don't know about it?? I'm thinking of tourists to NZ etc, or people who maybe don't speak English or just live with their head in the sand and don't watch the tv or read newspapers.


Hehe I must be one of these, what is this 'boob on bikes'?

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Posted By: mummy_becks
Date Posted: 19 August 2008 at 8:43pm

The only reason it has caused so much fuss this year is because Auckland City Council tried to stop it. If they hadn't then it wouldn't be in the media.

OMG what a dick that guy on talkback was.



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Posted By: 2bmumof3
Date Posted: 19 August 2008 at 8:57pm
Ah just googled it...OMG not impressed. I'm not that bothered by it that I'd protest (not in my town either though) but would certainly hope they ahve decent signage to allow people to know what they're about to witness...I'd be absolutely spewing if I was unsuspecting in town and my family saw that.

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Posted By: Paws
Date Posted: 20 August 2008 at 9:23am
I can't believe someone tried to compare this to breastfeeding...not remotely the same!!

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Posted By: arohanui
Date Posted: 20 August 2008 at 9:58am
Sorry 2bmumof3, didn't mean it to sound bad with the whole head in the sand comment, meant people who just don't see the news or are busy hope I didn't offend you!

Guess what.

Primary schools from all over Auckland are going to the Town Hall today for a choir practise thing.



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Posted By: MissCandice
Date Posted: 20 August 2008 at 10:05am
I Agree here..

Originally posted by arohanui arohanui wrote:

Well at the risk of getting flamed I'm gonna go against the grain and say it really bothers me... if I was in town with my child, I would find it really hard to explain to them and to tell the truth I really would be angry that they had seen that. It's done in a very 'adult' way and should not be in a public place where there could be children around. Sure yeah don't go if you don't wanna see it, but what about those people who haven't heard anything about it and don't know about it?? I'm thinking of tourists to NZ etc, or people who maybe don't speak English or just live with their head in the sand and don't watch the tv or read newspapers.


And Here

Originally posted by sunnyhoney sunnyhoney wrote:

Does Steve Crow's Show really need the extra advertising?? Probably not as all those who follow will all know about it anyways.

I agree with Arohanui & George and would like to add that it does not set a good example for our daughters (or sons for that matter). It portrays women as objects and teaches our young boys disrespect for women. I don't think I would like it if it were my daughter out there displaying her body in that manner.


And here..

Originally posted by busymum busymum wrote:

I think it's disgusting. Not boobs themselves, but a public, in-your-face exhibition of it. Get real, if it's not to attract sexual interests then what is?? What would bug me the most is if I had to take the kids into town on a boobs parade day and for them to see that. It ought to be limited to TV after 8.30pm.


And here

Originally posted by lizzle lizzle wrote:

I think it is appalling. i'm pretty liberal but breasts are being exposed for a sexual reason - do it in private, or where people can chose to go or not, not in a public area.

As for the guy on talkback today who said it was no different from women being able to breastfeed where-ever they want....pfffft


And here

Originally posted by Two Blondinis Two Blondinis wrote:

I'm not happy about it for the same reasons the other ladies gave, about having to explain that to a young child. But on the other hand there's that constant evil called "freedom of speech".

And as for anyone having issues with women breast feeding in a public place - get over it! I think it is the most natural and selfless thing for a mother to do and the only reason that guy has an issue with it is because he has turned that nurturing act into something perverse and crude!


And i also think whoever compared it to breastfeeding needs a boot up their ass. Thats downright wrong, how can you compare porn to breastfeeding??

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Posted By: kabe
Date Posted: 20 August 2008 at 10:18am
I think he's a pig. I saw him on TV this morning saying he didn't care if children saw the parade, as they've all seen breasts before, as most were breast fed!!

I think this is smutty and disrespectful for all women. If it was something like the Brazilian Carnival or hero parade, now that's a different story!

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Posted By: Paws
Date Posted: 20 August 2008 at 10:19am
Originally posted by arohanui arohanui wrote:



Primary schools from all over Auckland are going to the Town Hall today for a choir practise thing.



OMG

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Posted By: Two Blondinis
Date Posted: 20 August 2008 at 10:28am
and

Does this guy have no morals at all?!?!?!

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Posted By: kebakat
Date Posted: 20 August 2008 at 10:34am
He may be a bit of a dick but he's kinda smart really when you think about it. His attitude and comments are getting him massive publicity for his parade. Easy advertising for him really.


Posted By: arohanui
Date Posted: 20 August 2008 at 10:38am
Meh, I think most people who are interested in that sort of thing would know about it anyway. Alot of people who hear about it probably want nothing to do with it.

I'd go out on a limb here and say he's getting more negative attention/publicity than he is positive.

I don't care what he does in private, don't care about the Erotica expo - but it's an adult thing and should not be brought onto our streets.

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Posted By: BuzzyBee
Date Posted: 20 August 2008 at 10:46am
Originally posted by arohanui arohanui wrote:

Meh, I think most people who are interested in that sort of thing would know about it anyway. Alot of people who hear about it probably want nothing to do with it.

I'd go out on a limb here and say he's getting more negative attention/publicity than he is positive.

I don't care what he does in private, don't care about the Erotica expo - but it's an adult thing and should not be brought onto our streets.


Agreed...

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Posted By: sunnyhoney
Date Posted: 20 August 2008 at 10:52am
Originally posted by arohanui arohanui wrote:



Primary schools from all over Auckland are going to the Town Hall today for a choir practise thing.




What???!!!

I agree with Chovyz too...not good for guys who are trying to be faithful to their partners...it is hard in today's society not to look at things.

Oh well, is it over already (?)...for another year at least.

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Posted By: WRXnKids
Date Posted: 20 August 2008 at 12:33pm
As he said all kids have seen boobs tho and thats all they are.

Personally i think its awesome guys can go topless with out a fuss so why cant women? If boobs on bikes changes peoples view on breast exposure im all for it. I wish i was confident enough to get mine out.

It has been in the news every year it has been on as well.

As for guys tryin to stay faithful come on its looking not touching id be worried if DP didnt wanna look. I sure as hell have a second look at a hot body male or female in any state of dress nothing wrong with admiring. Im my opinion if a man is going to cheat they will and lookin at boobs isnt going to cause it. It has a lot more to do with there own thinking than anything.

GO THE BOOBS if you dont like it then avoid the area its been well publicised

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Posted By: caitlynsmygirl
Date Posted: 20 August 2008 at 12:55pm
i dont even know what its all about ....can someone tell me so i dont have to google it (laaazzzyyy )


Posted By: Bombshell
Date Posted: 20 August 2008 at 1:20pm
i dont care if they want to freeze their boobies off in this weather good luck to them!!!

i did ask BSDH where he would be at noon tho! Good job he hates crowds - AND he says he gets a better view on tv tonight anyways! and that is true - the footage last year was full on....so keep an eye out tonight! LOL

Keep meaning to go to the expo again...but does not seem right to take a child along...went pre ella to one but not since ive been with hubby! It is classic when yu run into friends / work mates etc there tho....watch as people try to hide their shopping bags LMAO!


Posted By: arohanui
Date Posted: 20 August 2008 at 1:21pm
Boobs on Bikes - Steve Crow, well known pornography man (lol don't know how else to describe it) gets lots of women with huge fake boobies, dressed up skanky and with no top on, showing off their huge fake boobies. They rode on the back of motorbikes through Auckland city at 12.45 today.

ETA: oh and the purpose of the ride through is to gain publicity for the Erotica expo.

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Posted By: arohanui
Date Posted: 20 August 2008 at 1:26pm
Originally posted by WRXandJosh WRXandJosh wrote:


Personally i think its awesome guys can go topless with out a fuss so why cant women? If boobs on bikes changes peoples view on breast exposure im all for it. I wish i was confident enough to get mine out.

GO THE BOOBS if you dont like it then avoid the area its been well publicised


Yeah but what if men were walking around town without pants on?!    

I don't have an issue with boobs, my issue is with them being sexualised SO much in a public place where there could easily be un-knowing people (and children) who happen to come across it. As proved in this thread, not everyone has heard about it, despite all the publicity.

I think it's an adult thing that should stay in adult places!

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Posted By: arohanui
Date Posted: 20 August 2008 at 1:30pm
Originally posted by WRXandJosh WRXandJosh wrote:


As for guys tryin to stay faithful come on its looking not touching id be worried if DP didnt wanna look. I sure as hell have a second look at a hot body male or female in any state of dress nothing wrong with admiring. Im my opinion if a man is going to cheat they will and lookin at boobs isnt going to cause it. It has a lot more to do with there own thinking than anything.


Sorry but I have to disagree with this as well - but then I guess that's a result of what I feel is cheating and what is acceptable for me and DH in the boundaries of our marriage. I wouldn't want DH seeing that. You're right, it does have a lot more to do with their own thinking - so if men aren't thinking sexual thoughts when they see that, what are they thinking?!

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Posted By: kebakat
Date Posted: 20 August 2008 at 1:58pm
Originally posted by WRXandJosh WRXandJosh wrote:

As for guys tryin to stay faithful come on its looking not touching id be worried if DP didnt wanna look. I sure as hell have a second look at a hot body male or female in any state of dress nothing wrong with admiring. Im my opinion if a man is going to cheat they will and lookin at boobs isnt going to cause it. It has a lot more to do with there own thinking than anything.


I totally agree! DH and I will both look at people we think are good looking. When we are watching tv we will even randomly say that a person has a nice butt or whatever. It's totally human nature to look.

If a guy or girl for that matter is going to cheat they have to make a conscious decision to do that and act on their thoughts.


Posted By: 2bmumof3
Date Posted: 20 August 2008 at 2:41pm
Originally posted by arohanui arohanui wrote:

Sorry 2bmumof3, didn't mean it to sound bad with the whole head in the sand comment, meant people who just don't see the news or are busy hope I didn't offend you!


lol arohanui, certainly didn't offend me. I live in my own nieve little world her in good old Masterton.

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Posted By: arohanui
Date Posted: 20 August 2008 at 2:50pm
Originally posted by 2bmumof3 2bmumof3 wrote:

Originally posted by arohanui arohanui wrote:

Sorry 2bmumof3, didn't mean it to sound bad with the whole head in the sand comment, meant people who just don't see the news or are busy hope I didn't offend you!


lol arohanui, certainly didn't offend me. I live in my own nieve little world her in good old Masterton.


Ooo my mum lived in Masterton for a few years growing up! That's all I know about it though lol

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Posted By: Mazzy
Date Posted: 20 August 2008 at 3:37pm
I don't really care either way about the boobs on bikes parade, but probably because it's in Auckland and not really directly affecting me.

I do think it's ridiculous how much media coverage this gets every year. I can guarantee that if everyone ignored it, there would be no parade. Though I wonder what Steve Crowe would come up with instead.

I've been to the expo both before he took it over and after, and there was a big difference. The first time it was about sex and actually quite interesting and well presented. The second time (after Steve Crowe took it over) it was most definitely a porn expo and I felt really uncomfortable and never went back again. I think he's a creepy, disgusting guy who purely in it for a profit. Forget the ideals of women being comfortable with their bodies etc. this is all about money. And that's probably what makes me annoyed the most!

On another forum I go on someone did make the good point that if there was any legislation to ban the parade, it would likely affect women's rights to breast feed in public, which I wouldn't agree with.


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Posted By: busymum
Date Posted: 20 August 2008 at 6:47pm
What about, women must only show one breast at a time unless they have a multiple birth?

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Posted By: mummy_becks
Date Posted: 20 August 2008 at 7:11pm

I think I am against the masses here and I like Steve Crowe, he does what he does very well. He can be a bit in your face but as a businessman he has done well. I did read that someone (one of his staff) was assulted at the parade.



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Posted By: busymum
Date Posted: 20 August 2008 at 7:12pm
30 women. 30! Was that all that could be convinced to bare in Auckland central????

Totally ROFLing at
Originally posted by <font color='#0000FF'>http://www.stuff.co.nz/4662948a11.html</font> - Stuff Article http://www.stuff.co.nz/4662948a11.html - Stuff Article wrote:

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Mr Crow, in a black Bentley convertible, led the parade and had instructed the topless women beforehand to keep the jiggling to a minimum and to not do anything that would be deemed offensive.


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Posted By: muppet
Date Posted: 20 August 2008 at 7:35pm
Originally posted by arohanui arohanui wrote:


Primary schools from all over Auckland are going to the Town Hall today for a choir practise thing.



Yup, I was there with my school today. The kids were sitting out in Aotea square eating lunch (the only place they could really go for lunch as you can't eat in the town hall) and there was certainly a crowd gathering! Luckily we were back inside before it started but it certainly wasn't something I wanted my little ones to see!

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Posted By: pepsi
Date Posted: 20 August 2008 at 7:42pm
My DH was enjoying the news story until they showed the girl who came up to Auckland from Chch to be in the parade.. I mean, it's nice that she feels comfortable with her body after having had a baby (now 16 months old), but those puppies were not meant for public display, much like my own..


Posted By: Jennz
Date Posted: 20 August 2008 at 8:04pm
I'm relatively indifferent to it- I think the guy is pretty gross and the whole thing is pretty tacky but its not something I would get up in arms about. Luckily its been so well publicised that I would know to avoid town on that day (with kiddies)- I would be very unimpressed if I was taken by surprise and had to explain it to my girls if they saw it.

The thing is- if it were coming from a place where it was supposed to empower woman I could *almost* see it as a positive thing, unfortunately its quite obvious the whole point is just to objectify woman and therefore I think its quite negative. I don't think any of the woman who would choose to involve themselves with this particular event would be coming from a good place- I think it would be far more to do with their low self esteem and strong bad influences- which is pretty sad.

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Posted By: emz
Date Posted: 20 August 2008 at 8:32pm
I don't really care about it - if I was in Auckland I would probably go to it just to see what all the fuss is about.

Let's face it - Steve Crow is a very good businessman. And he knows how to get his name and his businesses publicised. I don't really see why women want to be in the parade in Winter (ouch fripple!) but most of them are porn stars so 'normal' behaviour isn't exactly their thing.

I can't believe though that anyone would think a man staring at women's breasts is cheating - it's a completely natural thing and if your partner can't look that's fighting against nature. I'd rather my DH have a healthy outlet and look at boobs/figures every once in a while than have built up tension or whatever and act on it. Mind you, I 100% trust my DH with that so no problems there.

I didn't like seeing the chick from Chch - I think I know her from somewhere she wasn't the best specimen to be shown on TV.

At the end of the day, it is what it is and there will always be this stuff around. One thing I am pleased with is how organised it is - polic escort, the crowd is pretty tame and everyone seems to have a good time. So yeah no biggy for me.


Posted By: Mazzy
Date Posted: 20 August 2008 at 8:48pm
Originally posted by busymum busymum wrote:

What about, women must only show one breast at a time unless they have a multiple birth?


LMAO!!

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Posted By: caitlynsmygirl
Date Posted: 20 August 2008 at 9:12pm
hahaha 'fripple"



Posted By: arohanui
Date Posted: 21 August 2008 at 8:02am
Originally posted by busymum busymum wrote:

30 women. 30! Was that all that could be convinced to bare in Auckland central????

Totally ROFLing at
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Mr Crow, in a black Bentley convertible, led the parade and had instructed the topless women beforehand to keep the jiggling to a minimum and to not do anything that would be deemed offensive.


ROFL @ "Mr Crow's" comment re: jiggling!!

I also heard that lots of the bystanders were disappointed there was only 30 in the parade lol. And a lot of those (the majority) were overseas porn stars, so weren't even NZers!

Originally posted by Jennz Jennz wrote:

The thing is- if it were coming from a place where it was supposed to empower woman I could *almost* see it as a positive thing, unfortunately its quite obvious the whole point is just to objectify woman and therefore I think its quite negative. I don't think any of the woman who would choose to involve themselves with this particular event would be coming from a good place- I think it would be far more to do with their low self esteem and strong bad influences- which is pretty sad.


I have to agree with this. I wouldn't be nearly as offended if it wasn't such blatant objectification of women, and so sexual and adult in a non adult place.

Just a curious question to those of you who aren't bothered by it... would you be happy if your daughter was a porn star?

ETA: I was just thinking more about this, and I would go so far as to say I would support a topless protest if it was about something like Herceptin not being funded for breast cancer. Because that has a purpose and a real reason, and is not advertising women as objects. And I could easily explain it to my children (not that I would take kids there, but you know what I mean... if we happened to come across it). So it's not the boobs being shown I'm so anti about, it's why they were shown and how - and the fact that it objectifies women.

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Posted By: kebakat
Date Posted: 21 August 2008 at 8:38am
Originally posted by arohanui arohanui wrote:

would you be happy if your daughter was a porn star?


I wouldn't be happy about it no. I would hope I raise my child to find a better job/career, but ultimately in the end no matter what my child decides to do in life I will support them as best as I can.

But in saying that I have nothing against those that do it. I know someone who is a "model" on an amatuer porn site and she is the most lovely down to earth person with a professional respectable career as well. She just loves that kind of thing


Posted By: Phat_Cat
Date Posted: 21 August 2008 at 10:25am
wow what a topic!!

Well i personally dont really have a problem with it as it is quite well done and the only reason people get up in arms about it cause of all the media attention it receives, which is the guy who organises it whole point. its like the hero parade everyone gets up in arms about that and that can be sexually orientated as well. If you dont like it then you stay away - the only thing that could be changed is maybe doing it in the evening as there are less children around. Boobies are a natural thing and should be treated as such the more you try to "hide" it and see it as "wrong" the more uncomfortable woman can be about their bodies and there is no reason for this.

As for the ladies themselves its a career choice not a self esteem one and they say there is good $$ to be made in the industry. I know of an ex-show girl and shes the nicest chick ever.

As for husbands cheating thats ridiculous to say that, its only natural for men to look at boobies as it its females to look at the male form. Its your/their choice to look at the end of the day. There is a different between looking and acting upon it. The porn industry does exsist and alot of males view it. I have no problem what so ever with my DH viewing porn, looking at boobies or whatever i feel comfortable & secure enough in my marriage and we know our boundries as to what is acceptable and not

For a daughter (well im not going to have any of those being a mum of 2 boys) i would not be happy about it but she would be an adult and entitled to make her own choices i would ensure though that she had all the appropriate health checks to look after herself

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Posted By: WRXnKids
Date Posted: 21 August 2008 at 11:21am
I would support my child as a pornstar girl or boy i think porn star is completely different to prostitute tho that i wouldnt support. Porn industry is very health conscious these days.

It does crack me up that people are putting down the chc chic with less than perfect boobies and how she should have kept them under wraps. I think good on her and i hope she encourages other chic to get there boobs out in public more often (i dont mean restaurants and shopping or anything but in backyards and beaches)

Genitalia and boobs are completely different.



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Posted By: emz
Date Posted: 21 August 2008 at 11:42am
I agree that genitalia and boobs are different as well.

I don't think comparing us being OK with boobs on bikes to us being OK with our own kids being porn stars is right. I don't see the connection myself. Just like I wouldn't want my kid working in a KFC their whole lives, but I'm not against those that do.

One of my besties is a stripper (I know not the same thing but she still gets her kit off for money) and while I personally wouldn't do it, I have nothing against watching her strip (she's amazing BTW) and nothing against walking down the street with her even though people know she's a stripper. But yeah not for me.

I just don't see the fuss, porn/strippers/prostitutes have been around for centuries and they're not going anywhere. I think the event is a lot better organised and performed than it could be considering the industry. I say good on them if that's what they want to do, and by the looks of it 100,000 people weren't complaining and those that were mostly stayed away. Just like how I wouldn't go to a free cricket game or whatever cos I hate the game.


Posted By: arohanui
Date Posted: 21 August 2008 at 11:56am
Yeah true, I do have to agree that genitalia and boobs are different!

The reason I asked about being happy if your child was a porn star was because I believe that if people are happy with this sort of thing becoming acceptable in our society, then society is going to change as a result of it. I mean that if women being topless in sexual ways in public in the middle of the day is being deemed as "normal", then the society our children grow up in is going to be very different. Hmmm I'm not very good at explaining what I mean sorry, sometimes I just can't find the right words...

As for the cheating thing... it's totally different in all couples but I just know that for DH and I, that would go past our boundaries. Not that I would call it "cheating" at all, but just something that I wouldn't be comfortable with (and neither would he). But that's a personal thing that we've decided, just like every other couple decides their boundaries. It doesn't mean I don't trust him (no way) or think that he's gonna go off with some chick just cos he looked at her boobies (again, no way!) but I guess we just see the sexual body as personal and sacred to our marriage relationship.... but then I'm very conservative in that sense lol so I know that alot people don't have those views!

DH works in news, and both him and the other cameraman said they weren't comfortable going to film the parade, so 2 of the ladies went (incidentally young and attractive). While they were there, they were hassled by the crowd "show us your tits" etc

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Posted By: kebakat
Date Posted: 21 August 2008 at 12:17pm
Originally posted by arohanui arohanui wrote:

The reason I asked about being happy if your child was a porn star was because I believe that if people are happy with this sort of thing becoming acceptable in our society, then society is going to change as a result of it. I mean that if women being topless in sexual ways in public in the middle of the day is being deemed as "normal", then the society our children grow up in is going to be very different. Hmmm I'm not very good at explaining what I mean sorry, sometimes I just can't find the right words...


Have to say I totally disagree with this. Porn and nudity etc in varying forms has been around for hundreds of years and it probably always will be so it's not suddenly going to change our society at all.

And the parade wasn't deemed normal. It happens once a year so it's hardly happening every day every where. There are nude beaches and camps etc spotted around the place.. I remember going to camp on a school trip and there was a nudist camp next door, not just boobs showing, but everything! Over in the states they have those mardi gra festivals that show a hella lot more than that parade did.


Posted By: arohanui
Date Posted: 21 August 2008 at 12:23pm
Lol @ the nudist camp next door to the school camp!!

Yes porn and nudity have been around for hundreds (probably thousands) of years - but down the main street of a busy city at lunchtime? I don't really think that's appropriate...

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Posted By: sherbert
Date Posted: 21 August 2008 at 2:55pm
My dh builds the erotica show, and works for that steve crow guy once a year, he has some funny stories to tell about the erotica show...anyway, not only that but my kids school is on the same st as the headquarters of the erotica empire,(in mt wellington) and I was outside school yesterday, and these two guys on harleys with hot chicks zoomed past me, and I thought to myself "they must have just come back from boobs on bikes..." one good thing about dh working for erotica, he gets lots of freebees, including lots of chocolate boobies, we got a whole box last year, my kids thought they were hilarious! and they were very tasty...

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Posted By: cuppatea
Date Posted: 21 August 2008 at 2:56pm
It never ceases to amaze me how many men go to watch it, I mean really anyone would think they have never seen boobies before

I didn't see the woman from christchurch as I didn't see the news coverage of it but I say good on her, surely post baby real boobies being displayed has got to be a good thing, in regards to helping body image issues etc.

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Posted By: WRXnKids
Date Posted: 21 August 2008 at 5:29pm
I just told dp i want him to get a job at the erotica empire i want free chocolate boobies!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hahaha Emz can you imagine dp as a porn star???? He would love it maybe just a job fixing all there rich cars instead

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Posted By: sunnyhoney
Date Posted: 21 August 2008 at 6:43pm
Originally posted by arohanui arohanui wrote:


As for the cheating thing... it's totally different in all couples but I just know that for DH and I, that would go past our boundaries. Not that I would call it "cheating" at all, but just something that I wouldn't be comfortable with (and neither would he). But that's a personal thing that we've decided, just like every other couple decides their boundaries. It doesn't mean I don't trust him (no way) or think that he's gonna go off with some chick just cos he looked at her boobies (again, no way!) but I guess we just see the sexual body as personal and sacred to our marriage relationship.... but then I'm very conservative in that sense lol so I know that alot people don't have those views!

DH works in news, and both him and the other cameraman said they weren't comfortable going to film the parade, so 2 of the ladies went (incidentally young and attractive). While they were there, they were hassled by the crowd "show us your tits" etc



You aren't the only one. That's how we feel too.

As for the "show us your tits" How rude...and proves my point about encouraging disrespect for women.

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Posted By: emz
Date Posted: 21 August 2008 at 9:45pm
Hehe wrx, I can so imagine your DP there with his jaw dropping and making inappropriate comments... and he'd probably be standing next to me who would be doing the same thing!


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