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Topic: feotal dopplers
Posted By: mrsturtle
Subject: feotal dopplers
Date Posted: 29 August 2008 at 3:07pm
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A few questions
Has anyone brought one of these? Are they any good and roughly how much? is $75 an ok price? After mw appt today im thinking of buying one was so amazing listening to the wee one! also hubby missed out would be nice for him to hear too |
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Posted By: Aprilfools
Date Posted: 29 August 2008 at 3:14pm
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Yep I have one and I love it.
I bought it so my mum could have a listen while she was here and I can also record TB's movements and heart beat onto the computer and then email it to her. And apart from that sometimes I just like listening to him wriggle around. I think we paid about $60-$70. ------------- http://lilypie.com"> 
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Posted By: Nefertiti
Date Posted: 29 August 2008 at 3:25pm
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Where did you get your one from Aprilfools? ------------- http://lilypie.com"> 
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Posted By: Aprilfools
Date Posted: 29 August 2008 at 3:52pm
Trademe  ------------- http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: sunnyhoney
Date Posted: 29 August 2008 at 6:09pm
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We got (probably a more budget one) heaps cheaper off Trademe too...a bit of a godsend when I hadn't felt bubs for a while but didn't want to bug the midwife. ------------- Mum to: Joy Emily 1.05am 27/09/07 7lb 3oz Austin Paul 12.47pm 18/04/10 10lb 8oz |
Posted By: Natalie_G
Date Posted: 29 August 2008 at 6:16pm
That is so neat, being able to hear bubs heart beat whenever you want. Sadly cant budget for that  .------------- http://lilypie.com">  
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Posted By: AuntieSarah
Date Posted: 29 August 2008 at 9:51pm
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I've just bought one of trademe this evening - $75 so probably the one you were looking at shannon (angel sounds?) Hopefully it doesn't take too long to get here
I never thought I'd get something like that but I'm so worried that baby is not ok (for no reason, just paranoid) and don't want to bother the midwife for no reason and dh was sick of hearing me wondering out loud if the baby is ok (and I want to feel it move and blah blah blah) that we decided why not just buy it. Here's hoping it's easy to find the heartbeat, otherwise it'll stress me out even more no doubt. 
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Posted By: Nefertiti
Date Posted: 29 August 2008 at 10:19pm
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I intend on getting one a bit later once we can hear the baby.
I have been looking at the ones on trademe (angel sounds) and wondered if you have to use the headset to hear it? I'd like to get one that everyone (me, partner and kids) can all hear at the same time. ------------- http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: Maya
Date Posted: 29 August 2008 at 10:22pm
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I had one with the gremlins and again with Chiara, call it paranoia but hey, pregnancy after loss entitles a little paranoia!
I paid way more for mine, about $180,but it's a clinical grade one the same as the midwives use. Am about to sell it on TM. -------------  Maya Grace (28/02/03)
 (02/01/06)
The Gremlins:Sienna Marie & Mercedes Kailah (14/10/06)
Lil miss:Chiara Louise Chloe (09/07/08)
Her ladyship:Rosalia Sophie Anais (18/06/12)
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Posted By: Nefertiti
Date Posted: 30 August 2008 at 8:37am
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Is it one you can hear without headphones? How much do you want for it? ------------- http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: Troods
Date Posted: 30 August 2008 at 3:19pm
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Hi I got the Angel Sounds one of trade me for $75. It was great. Esp as I had lots of bleeding right through the 1st trimester and part of the 2nd so needed the peace of mind. It was also nice to come home from work and relax on the couch listening to bubs wriggle around. You don't just need to use the headphones. It comes with an extra wire that you can plug into your computer or stereo (if got the right connections) and everyone can listen. ------------- 
Missed MC July 2011
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Posted By: mrsturtle
Date Posted: 30 August 2008 at 7:02pm
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thanks ladies, have talked hubby into getting one so will have a look on tm.
Maya - same question how much are you asking for it? |
Posted By: Maya
Date Posted: 30 August 2008 at 9:59pm
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Ummm, I don't know, I just looked it up and I paid $175 for it. I also have two 1/2 full bottles of the ultrasound gel which were $14 each. Maybe $100 for the lot? If anyone is keen PM me, otherwise I'll chuck it on TM. ------------- Maya Grace (28/02/03)
(02/01/06)
The Gremlins:Sienna Marie & Mercedes Kailah (14/10/06)
Lil miss:Chiara Louise Chloe (09/07/08)
Her ladyship:Rosalia Sophie Anais (18/06/12)
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Posted By: AmmaS
Date Posted: 02 September 2008 at 2:56pm
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Are you people crazy.
Doppler should only be used by the appropriate health care professional to monitor fetal well being. Too much ultrasound has not been demonstrated to be safe. The Sonic aids used by midwives are a continuous wave (constant dose for the duration) this dose is far higher than that of ultrasound imaging. 
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Posted By: Aprilfools
Date Posted: 02 September 2008 at 3:36pm
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And you are getting your information from where?
As far as I was able to ascertain from looking into it, it hasn't been proven to be unsafe and there is no scientific research to back up what you're saying. My midwife doesn't have a problem with it either. ------------- http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: mrsturtle
Date Posted: 02 September 2008 at 6:23pm
| Hmm im a medical trainning and work in the health industry and as far as im aware there is no evidence to confirm any effect from these. I certainly wouldnt even consider it if there was. Its really just a glorified stethascope |
Posted By: emachan
Date Posted: 02 September 2008 at 6:42pm
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I my doppler - I don't use it often and when I do, only for a minute or two, just to hear the heartbeat.
It was really good to get, especially after m/c my first, and the one I got was the Angel Sounds off trademe. It was also cool for DH to be able to hear the heartbeat and feel a lot more involved in the pregnancy. shannon - It does come with a warning of only using for 1-2 mins up to 3 times a day, but once I started to feel baby move, I never use it as much. (and I only probably used it every couple of days for a minute per day at the start before I felt movements) ------------- http://lilypie.com" rel="nofollow">  DD#1 Sept 08 DD#2 Oct 09 |
Posted By: AuntieSarah
Date Posted: 02 September 2008 at 7:24pm
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I just received my angelsounds one today and it's awesome! Took us a wee while to find the heartbeat to start with but once we found it was so clear We recorded it and sent it to my parents to listen to ------------- http://lilypie.com"> http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: Maya
Date Posted: 02 September 2008 at 7:26pm
That's a bit random! And a bit incorrect! A sonic aid/hand held doppler is a much lower exposure to u/s than u/s imaging, for one thing some u/s scan's can take more than an hour, it takes only a few minutes to find the heart beat with a doppler. Ultrasound has been used in pregnancy for many years with no ill effect, for a while it was thought that it may cause smaller/low birthweight babies but this was later disproven, the data was biased as pregnancies in which there was high use of u/s tend to be high risk pregnancies to start with which already have a higher risk of producing a smaller baby. The doppler flows that are used to measure the blood supply between the placenta and the baby via the umbilical cord are considered to be the most invasive u/s procedure but again the time spent doing them is so low, only a few minutes, that the effects on baby are nil. I had more than 17 scans in total with the gremlins, most of which included doppler flows to rule out TTTS, not to mention using a hand held doppler regularly from 12 weeks until delivery, and the CTG monitoring I had to have done every 2 days for the last 4 weeks which also uses u/s technology. I would far rather expose my baby/ies to these small amounts of ultrasound to ensure their safety and wellbeing than not utilise available technology and risk missing a potentially serious problem. For example, my Sienna has a congenital renal problem which, had it not been picked up antenatally, could have led to serious and lifelong problems, but coz it was picked up at 33 weeks was able to be treated with surgery and ongoing medication and hasn't presented any problems. ------------- Maya Grace (28/02/03)
(02/01/06)
The Gremlins:Sienna Marie & Mercedes Kailah (14/10/06)
Lil miss:Chiara Louise Chloe (09/07/08)
Her ladyship:Rosalia Sophie Anais (18/06/12)
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AmmaS wrote:Posted By: AmmaS
Date Posted: 03 September 2008 at 10:54am
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I too am a medic and work in medical imaging - and do know what i am talking about.
Can give you reference for back ground reading if you'd like. My qualifications do out rank any bit of knowledge your Midwife may have about ultrasound bioeffects. Ultrasound recommendations are to use the minimum required ultrasound exposure (Doppler is higher than for imaging) for the maximum MEDICAL diagnostic information. There are no reported problems with following this well researched rule. However, using Ultrasound willy nilly is not researched or policed. Hearing your baby move around or hearing heart beat does not tell you that baby is OK. Your bowel sounds and pulse will also be picked up. Are you qualified to know the difference?? 
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Posted By: AmmaS
Date Posted: 03 September 2008 at 11:11am
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Lets clear up the Physicis of Ultrasound.
An hour of ultrasound imaging uses pulsed ultrasound waves - ie a u/s wave goes in and gathers information and is reflected back - there is a time delay before the next pulse is sent in (5 seconds of ultrasound per 15 minutes of imaging scanning time) or 20 seconds (per hour) of ultrasound exposure spread around different areas of the baby. A sonic aid is CONTINUOUS firing of the ultrasound wave in order to read rapid frequency of heart rate. This continuous exposure is concentrated in one area of baby ie the Fetal Heart . Daily sonic aid of 20 seconds is a far greater exposure to one area of the baby . if you have to have an u/s imaging scan every week of the pregnancy you will never expose the baby to as much concentrate ultrasound as sonic aid. i would not do it to my baby and I have the means to.
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Posted By: SJD
Date Posted: 03 September 2008 at 1:25pm
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We bought a doppler similar to the type used by midwives, and used it for our first baby since we were really paranoid. This time however, Bubs started moving very young so we didn't even get a chance to have a play.
One warning I would give was that at my check up around 15 weeks my very experienced midwife couldn't find the heart and so sent me for a scan - of course all was okay, the monkey was just hiding!! Also when we were using it with number one it was quite hard to work out what was actually the baby and what was Mum. However when we did manage to find it, it was great for my husband to hear Madam's heart and to actually comprehend that there was a little baby in my tummy. We used it about once a week for about five mins tops and had an average sized baby with no problems. While it was reassuring I doubt very much you'd want to use it on a daily basis - if you are that worried you should call your midwife to talk through your concerns. |
Posted By: maudie23
Date Posted: 03 September 2008 at 2:07pm
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AmmaS
I think its time you left the post as you are riaing on everyone's parade. If people want to hear their Babies let them. I lost my Daughter at 19 weeks, I had a scan at 17 & 18 weeks, if I had a doppler I would have been able to hear her and not carry on with my dying child inside of me for over a week. What you do and don't do is totally up to you but I suggest you think about your approach next time. I am 6 weeks pregnant and I intend to buy one asap, now ladies where did you say you can buy one from. I would far rather pay the money to hear my baby (as & when I feel) not to often but often enough to know Baby is ok. Enjoy listening your your little ones 
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Posted By: emachan
Date Posted: 03 September 2008 at 4:31pm
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Maudie - here is a link to one like the one I have from trademe (Same user too)
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Baby-gear/Other/auction-174322133.htm ------------- http://lilypie.com" rel="nofollow"> DD#1 Sept 08 DD#2 Oct 09 |
Posted By: AuntieSarah
Date Posted: 03 September 2008 at 5:44pm
That's who I bought mine from too and they were really good - very quick delivery and had paynow which is so handy! ------------- http://lilypie.com"> http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: maudie23
Date Posted: 03 September 2008 at 5:52pm
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Thanks Ladies,
yah now I can't wait to hear the wee one. I wanted to get one last pregnancy but didn't get around to it, I wil be sure to do so this time. Thanks again |
Posted By: Kelzbelz
Date Posted: 04 September 2008 at 9:40am
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hmm this has got me wondering, I also MC earlier this year and as a result you do tend to worry alot. I think this could be a good investment and peace of mind...thanks for the info ladies.
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Posted By: AmmaS
Date Posted: 04 September 2008 at 1:19pm
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i suppose we don t care much about mothers smoking whilst pregnant or eating unhealthy food so why should we care about extra ultrasound - after all there is no evidence of harm with the LOW diagnostic levels used by health care professionals.
i guess the evidence will come later when plenty of you use these things adhoc. After all in the early days of Xrays everyone thought it was safe and the exposure was complete when the skin tuned red. We now know many many years later that use use it with care and at a very minimum level to get the maximum DIAGNOSTIC in formation. Have fun - your baby can't complain. |
Posted By: Nefertiti
Date Posted: 04 September 2008 at 1:59pm
Oh I suppose I shouldn't have had mcdonalds for lunch lol 
I had numerous xrays in a period of an hour or so a few years ago for bowel cancer (which luckily i didnt have) and then found out a week later i was pregnant and baby was fine. ------------- http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: Genie
Date Posted: 04 September 2008 at 2:00pm
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OUCH!!
I have to assume AmmaS that you have never suffered from miscarriages let alone multiple miscarriages, so can have no idea the anxiety levels of those of us who have. Surely there must be a balance somewhere?! ------------- 
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Posted By: AmmaS
Date Posted: 04 September 2008 at 2:11pm
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Yes I have in fact had miscarriages - I I realize how upsetting it all is - a scan is not going to change anything and in my experience all is fine for the day of the scan then the panic starts again the very next day.
I would rather not expose my baby to anything more than is required to obtain a healthy baby at the end of the day. Self monitoring is not going help either. Your midwife or OB will do as much as is required for baby's safety (not for maternal pacification because of anxiety) . Sad but true |
Posted By: Maya
Date Posted: 04 September 2008 at 2:34pm
I have to disagree with this. Most midwives/OB's operate on the premise that if a woman is concerned, it warrants further investigation. It is far better to do 99 unneccessary CTG's that generate normal traces than to hesitate and not do the 1 CTG that might have saved a baby's life. I also disagree with your comments re: self monitoring. During pregnancy it's normal to see your LMC monthly in first and second tri, then more frequently in the third tri. In between these appointments, women have to self monitor, whether it be by watching their diet, checking for swelling or bleeding symptoms or keeping a kick chart. Some women choose to take this one step further and use a sonic aid to self monitor their baby's well being, that's their choice. In my first pregnancy having a sonic aid at home wasn't an option and even if it had been, I wouldn't have bothered. It was a normal healthy pregnancy. But during my third pregnancy, which was a multiple pregnancy and came after a long period of subfertitility and a pregnancy loss, it was a useful resource. Yes, I had anxiety and the sonic aid helped with that. But even more importantly, when I DID have complications, it reassured me that my babies were OK. When I had a bleed at 25 weeks at 5am it was incredibly reassuring to listen to my babies hearts beating while I waited for the midwife to arrange further investigation. I resent the implication that I put my babies at risk by using the sonic aid. I think the big issue here is choice. If you don't think using a sonic aid is a good idea, then don't use one. No one is saying you have to. But please don't criticise those of us who did choose to use one for one reason or another. ------------- Maya Grace (28/02/03)
(02/01/06)
The Gremlins:Sienna Marie & Mercedes Kailah (14/10/06)
Lil miss:Chiara Louise Chloe (09/07/08)
Her ladyship:Rosalia Sophie Anais (18/06/12)
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Posted By: Rashika
Date Posted: 04 September 2008 at 2:41pm
I guess we should also not: use mobile phones (due to radiation) drive a car (in case we have an accident) walk (in case we get run over) have a dog/cat/budgie (in case we create an allergy) eat too many peanuts/nuts (allergy) eat low carb-low fat-high fat-high carb- high protein-low protein... the list is endless. We make choices based on the knowledge we have at the time, someday you may well be proved correct but it is just as possible you may be incorrect. I have been reading this thread with interest and I can totally understand those with a need to make sure bubs is still growing day to day or week by week. I can also understand your point of view but if you REALLY want people to listen then you need to take a much more tactful and informative rather than a condescending, overbearing approach. Your first post was enough to make me get riled up, let alone the next few posts and I dont use a doppler! ('cept with MW) I wasn't going to post but enough is enough... let those who want to use one, use one, and stop taking the mickey outa them! Sheesh... ------------- Jan 08 :angel: http://lilypie.com"> 
 
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Posted By: mrsturtle
Date Posted: 04 September 2008 at 6:09pm
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ok didnt realise such questions were going to cause such a response,
AmmaS - as others have also asked please do not post in here again your comments are not welcome. I personaly am disgusted in your comment "have fun, that our baby can not complain" how dare you suggest that any of us would do anything to harm our little ones! If you have joined OHBABY just to cause issues i would suggest you find another website. |
Posted By: maudie23
Date Posted: 04 September 2008 at 7:41pm
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Well said Shannon
Everyone is entitled to their opinion but you know what our mothers use to tell us, if you don't have anything nice to say don't say anything at all. If your Dr or Speciaist say's it ok to use a dopper than go fot it. I rang my specialist this morning and he suggested that it is SAFE & FINE as long as it is not daily and you don't use it for more than a couple of minuted. He also said that if it helps with peace of mind then go for it. So I say ladies we know our bodies, we know babies, don't let anyone ever tell you differently  
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Posted By: Troods
Date Posted: 04 September 2008 at 8:01pm
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I used my doppler for no more than the recommended time, my MW was fine with me having my own doppler and my doppler gave me peace of mind as I bled continually for the first 16 weeks of my pregnancy. My baby girl, now 6 months old, is healthy and happy. And, should I feel the need to, I will definitely be using my doppler again next time round. -------------
Missed MC July 2011
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Posted By: maudie23
Date Posted: 04 September 2008 at 9:11pm
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TrudandEm
I just wanted to say how Beautiful Emily is. She is wee i can see that but just gorgeous. |
Posted By: Troods
Date Posted: 04 September 2008 at 9:47pm
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Thanks maudie23. Going completely off topic here, but I have thought about updating the photo on the ticker to something recent, but that photo is my favourite - one of the first taken of her just an hour old. -------------
Missed MC July 2011
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Posted By: AmmaS
Date Posted: 05 September 2008 at 8:25am
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OK ladies point taken
I do get slightly more upset by the lack of knowledge around with regards to keeping yourselves and babies safe. No of you would willingly cause harm. But I think it is important that you are well informed and if I have facts to share then you would we be most upset if I didn't.
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