Babies - if left would they come out!
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Topic: Babies - if left would they come out!
Posted By: Peanut
Subject: Babies - if left would they come out!
Date Posted: 23 September 2008 at 3:36pm
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The induction threads recently got me thinking.....and I can't find info on internet about it....so thought I would ponder it here and put it out there!
Most babies are induced 10-14days over as a standard but what would happen if they were just left....would they come out or would some seriously just stay put? Really bugging me! -------------  
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Posted By: Daizy
Date Posted: 23 September 2008 at 3:38pm
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hmmm... I have no idea. Its an interesting thought though. ------------- 
 
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Posted By: LizzyJ
Date Posted: 23 September 2008 at 3:39pm
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their skin starts to peal as the protective membrane disintegrates, they also become higher risk of respatory problems as they begin to poo and then enhale it. thats all i know, DH peeled but did not enhale poo, family member did both, has had quite a few problems. ------------- http://lilypie.com">  http://lilypie.com"> 
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Posted By: kasbee
Date Posted: 23 September 2008 at 3:42pm
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From wat i have heard its not so much the baby but the placenta starts to deteriorate and thats when things can go bad. I think, dont quote me on that though. ------------- Kelly, mother to 4 wonderful children. http://lilypie.com"> 
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Posted By: kebakat
Date Posted: 23 September 2008 at 3:50pm
| Another thing they have to consider is that the placenta starts to stop working at around 42 weeks which of course isn't good for bubs |
Posted By: monikah
Date Posted: 23 September 2008 at 4:14pm
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my sis had an emergency c section becuase there were macomium (sp?) in her waters whcih basically means he started pooing, they were worried he might start trying to breathe (surrounded in fluid, bad idea) ------------- 
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Posted By: Bizzy
Date Posted: 23 September 2008 at 4:26pm
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i personally believe that given time they will come on their own.
Yes the placenta may start to deteriorate, but then it is minimal ... i was 42 weeks over with all mine and no deterioration of my placentas... a baby can poo and inhale it wether over or not, even just going into labour can make that happen... i have also met many overdue babie who dont have peeling skin... there are ways that the placenta and the baby can be checked after 42 weeks and i believe that some women just carry longer.... oh but apparently it is the male that determines how long a pregnancy will last, in the world of cows anyway. a friend was telling me that some bulls are known to have early calves and others that dont... ------------- http://www.myfitnesspal.com/weight-loss-ticker"> 
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Posted By: MrsMojo
Date Posted: 23 September 2008 at 5:16pm
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I agree with Bizzy. I think if left alone they'd come out too. I acknowledge that some women and babies have medical problems related to longer pregnancies but some women and babies have those problem anyway (Michaela was 5 days early and there was meconium in her waters, DH was on time and he swallowed meconium). I'd be interested to know how many women/babies suffered or died prior to the medical profession using induction techniques. I think that in our modern world we have become far too medicalised with something that comes natural to all species.
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Posted By: mum2emj
Date Posted: 23 September 2008 at 5:20pm
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i was induced 10 days over due with my second daughter and she had quite peely skin- i didnt realise this was cause she was overdue! lol.
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Posted By: caraMel
Date Posted: 23 September 2008 at 6:12pm
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Benjy peeled a lot when he was born and he was a week early. I was 100% sure of dates too so I'm not convinced that is always a sign of being overcooked or placenta breaking down. ------------- Mel, Mummy to E: 6, B: 4 and: 
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Posted By: LizzyJ
Date Posted: 23 September 2008 at 6:14pm
sadly a friends younger sister's baby died 2 weeks overdue invetro, the day before we had DD, i've often wondered if she would have survived if they had interviened. ------------- http://lilypie.com"> http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: Bobbie
Date Posted: 23 September 2008 at 6:20pm
totally OT but LizzyJ so cool to see you  -------------  
 
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Posted By: Peanut
Date Posted: 23 September 2008 at 6:54pm
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I know all the medical stuff but was just curious as to whether the baby would come out on its own once the pancenta had "deterioated" e.g the bodies cue to go into labour.
I was 2 weeks early and had a peely bubba. -------------
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Posted By: Bizzy
Date Posted: 23 September 2008 at 7:23pm
 totally agree with you on that!!------------- http://www.myfitnesspal.com/weight-loss-ticker">
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MrsMojo wrote:Posted By: caitlynsmygirl
Date Posted: 23 September 2008 at 7:37pm
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I swallowed mecconium....C's dad i worked with ...wonder if the two are linked , ya know , the fact that i sh*t where i eat from a very early age .... ------------- 
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Posted By: Bizzy
Date Posted: 23 September 2008 at 7:55pm
i feel a bit of a hypocrite tho seeing as i let myself be induced three times....  ------------- http://www.myfitnesspal.com/weight-loss-ticker">
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Posted By: Kicker
Date Posted: 23 September 2008 at 8:39pm
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I watched a doco (60mins i think) where a woman went overdue, then started contractions but they stopped. The baby never came and she didnt go to the doctor (3rd world country), then about 40 years later she was getting abdo pains, when they looked into it the baby had calcified and was still in her uterus. -------------  
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Posted By: Peanut
Date Posted: 23 September 2008 at 8:42pm
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Thats what I was wondering - if it wouldjust sit there and calcify? -------------
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Posted By: Jay_R
Date Posted: 23 September 2008 at 8:47pm
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Bizzy - you made the right decision to be induced. Your babies were well cooked, they needed to come out, and sometimes nature needs a helping hand.
Do not feel like a hypocrite. Feel like a mother who did the right thing to get her babies safely into this world 
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Posted By: mummy_becks
Date Posted: 23 September 2008 at 8:57pm
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I have always wondered this as well. I came on my own at 3 weeks overdue (back in 1981) but my mum had a lot of medical staff watching over her when I was born (I came into the world with 37 people trying to watch). ------------- I was a puree feeder, forward facing, cot sleeping, pram pushing kind of Mum... and my kids survived! |
Posted By: fattartsrock
Date Posted: 23 September 2008 at 9:17pm
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Charlotte was 2 weeks late and I wanted her left as long as poss, I truely felt she would come in her own time, however I had been in labour on and off for days so I ended up being "hurried along"...
I do feel a bit "antsy" when I hear of people asking to be induced before time etc becasue they are "over it". I'm a bit old fashioned in the fact that I think they come in their own time and if baby is safe and happy and mum is safe, well, leave it be... (I also don't "believe" in finding out the gender of babies, either ...see, told ya I am old fashioned...) ------------- The Honest Un PC Parent of 2, usually stuck in the naughty corner! :P |
Posted By: lizzle
Date Posted: 23 September 2008 at 9:54pm
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Jake was induced at 14 days overdue, BUT when he came out, he was nothing like an overdue baby - no peely skin and was only 7lb something,. i think my dates were out. shoulda left him in....but hahah annie, i was sooooo over it!
decided with baby three I am going to ask the midwife to work out the due date and then add 12 days - so then i won't be disapointed! |
Posted By: Mazzy
Date Posted: 23 September 2008 at 10:17pm
What she said From memory you left it for as long as possible and withstood heaps of pressure from the medical professionals, so I don't think you're a hypocrite at all. You did what you believed in, as well as doing what was best for your kids - that's awesome.
As for a baby calcifying, that gives me the shivers. Poor woman. I have a friend who is a midwife and her babies are always overdue. Last one was four weeks post dates (she home births with support form colleagues) and came out fine (if rather big). But then I hear of other stories of babies who die at 42 weeks...so it's a hard call to make. DD2 was 10 days overdue and didn't peel much at all. There was a tiny bit of placenta deterioration but hardly any. ------------- Mum to two gorgeous girls! |
Posted By: Maya
Date Posted: 23 September 2008 at 10:19pm
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Maya was 2 weeks early and had meconium in her waters.
I'm fully convinced that if I hadn't been induced I'd still be pregnant with the gremlins. They were far too happy in there and they are still grumpy with me for making them be born before they were ready 
And I was induced with lil miss just coz I was over it lol  But to be fair, I had been vomiting every day for 34 weeks by the time she was born so I feel a little justified about it!
I guess I'm sitting on the intervention side of the fence on this one. Yes 99% of babies will come on their own given the chance, but the risks DO increase with time and advances in obstetric practises are the reason why so many fewer babies are stillborn or die from complications of labour/delivery. I personally would elect not to go over 40 weeks. JM2CW. -------------  Maya Grace (28/02/03)
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The Gremlins:Sienna Marie & Mercedes Kailah (14/10/06)
Lil miss:Chiara Louise Chloe (09/07/08)
Her ladyship:Rosalia Sophie Anais (18/06/12)
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Posted By: lilfatty
Date Posted: 24 September 2008 at 7:16am
I went over but was happy (to a point) to let Issy stay in ... I do believe in intervention though ... if I didnt ... Issy might not be here as she went into respitory distress in the process of trying to get out. I also think that medical advances are the reason that its no longer a common occurance for women to die during child birth. (Although if you ask DH he will say medical intervention is the reason we have so many emergency c sections) ------------- Mummy to Issy (3) and Elias (18 months) I did it .. 41 kgs gone! From flab to fab in under a year http://www.femininefitness.co.nz/category/blog - LFs weight blog
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Posted By: MrsMojo
Date Posted: 24 September 2008 at 7:54am
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I agree with this completely. I beleive in intervention when necessary and I am pleased that medical advances have meant that pregnancy and birth are safer. I will always birth in a hospital because I am high risk of requiring a blood transfusion. But as I said earlier I think that birth is a natural occurence that all species go through. I think that medical proffessionals do like to intervene and control even in instances where it's not necessary and I think if left to come out in their own time most babies would There is actually a midwife in Wellington that has a standard birth procedure which includes induction and forceps plus a shot of syntocin afterwards to get that placenta out toot sweet. Nearly all of her births are identical because she controls them and the birth plan is hers, not the parents. I can't comment whether I would get induced or not because I've not been in a situation where I had to think of it. Having said that I did have Michaela's placenta induced because of my bleeding disorder - the specialist and midwife said it would be safest. -------------
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Posted By: emz
Date Posted: 24 September 2008 at 8:06am
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I think some babies would come, and others wouldn't.
I feel too that sometimes medical professionals are too quick to jump on the bandwagon and induce, but IMHO I would rather be induced than have a dead baby if there was a chance that could happen. I wasn't induced with DS, but had a lot of intervention during the labour and wouldn't change it for those circumstances because Jack and I would probably be quite unwell if I'd just left it. There's definitely a reason why half of us don't die during child birth anymore, and if that means you have to induce then so be it. 
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Posted By: caitlynsmygirl
Date Posted: 24 September 2008 at 9:04am
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I can understand why women who go over want to do anything to get the baby out...by 40 weeks (ha or 30 even ) your over it , you feel fat, and tired , and if you are one of the freaks that doesnt , then most women are at least anxious to meet their baby .
I believe that mother and baby generally know what each other is doing , yet the powers that be , determine when the baby can come out . As there is not many births of babies that have gone over two weeks and we dont know all the possible outcomes, as opposed to premature birth , its a risk i personally wouldn't like to take ....altho, at least when they are still in your womb you know where they are all the blimming time , and they cant answer back ... -------------
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