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Topic: I am not NORMAL!!!
Posted By: minik8e
Subject: I am not NORMAL!!!
Date Posted: 24 September 2008 at 4:32pm
Why can I not be NORMAL!!!!!!!!

I had a hcg test 2 days ago. My levels had dropped from over 25 to 7. I had to have another one today to check they had gone back to 0.

Guess what.

They've gone UP - TRIPLED in fact - to 22!!!!!!!!!!!

I just want things to go NORMALLY for a change!!!

I had a large clot yesterday morning (TMI) but had stuff all blood and cramps since. Now I'm sitting here at my desk shaking. Because it's not normal!!!!

I just want to be NORMAL!!



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Posted By: IVFGirl1111
Date Posted: 24 September 2008 at 4:42pm
Oh Kate I dont know what to say because I dont really understand it all.

What did your doctor say?

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Posted By: surfergirl
Date Posted: 24 September 2008 at 4:42pm
Hey, who says anyone is normal! And, normal is boring...(although I know why you'd want to be at this time...)

So, does the Dr think there is still a chance? (fingers crossed)

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Posted By: minik8e
Date Posted: 24 September 2008 at 4:45pm
No idea. I have no idea at all. The nurse just gave me my results and must have taken my silence as surprise or shock or something as she said "were you not expecting that" and all I could say was uh NO!

I have to go have another one in 2 days. I mean seriously, who has levels that go down like that and then go back up! Really! Talk about doing your head in!!!!

Sorry, I'm just...shocked and ranting and confused and I don't want to be hopeful (but I do), I just want something to go normally when it comes to my body!!!

ETA: The doc wanted me to go back for another one in a week!! I said, uh no I want it in 2 days because if I have to wait a week I'm sure my head is going to explode.


Posted By: surfergirl
Date Posted: 24 September 2008 at 4:48pm
Argh! Feeling your frustration.

If it's any help, just remember that there is NOTHING you (or anyone else) can do. What will be will be (but I know sometimes you just want a chrystal ball).



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Posted By: minik8e
Date Posted: 24 September 2008 at 4:50pm
Ohhhh I know but I don't want to have the same thing as last year happen, which dragged on for weeks and weeks and weeks and I had no idea what was going on...am I....aren't I....do I need a D&C...blah blah blah


Posted By: Bizzy
Date Posted: 24 September 2008 at 5:12pm
i think that fionas had trouble with her hcg levels going up and down... i think she said was a suspected molar pregnancy?
sorry to hear your body isnt behaving normal, it sucks!!!


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Posted By: BugTeeny
Date Posted: 24 September 2008 at 5:15pm

I hope things get figured out and sorted out for you, lovely!


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Posted By: TraceyA
Date Posted: 24 September 2008 at 5:16pm
Kate

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Posted By: nellybelly
Date Posted: 24 September 2008 at 5:16pm
Kate I am so sorry this is going on for you it is just not fair and I so understand your longing for *normal*!!!           

I have never heard of 0 levels spiking up again like that, a big part of me hopes it is some unexpected good news somehow...

Rarrgh, that nurse what was she thinking - of course you wouldn't be expected that news, who would!!?! And you'd think she would give you at least a little more explanation!

So glad you were firm with the doc and said 2 days instead of a week, that is crazy to make you wait that long.

Big massive cyber hugs                


Posted By: Hopes
Date Posted: 24 September 2008 at 5:47pm
*hug*

Oh, Kate... that sucks.You really don't need more trouble right now.

We're thinking of you, and hoping that everything will go back to normal, and that you'll get some answers SOON.

*hugs*


Posted By: minik8e
Date Posted: 24 September 2008 at 5:52pm
LOL nelly belly...I'm sure my head WOULD explode if I had to wait a week!!!

I still have some blood, just light bright red. I just....man, talk about doing your head in!!!


Posted By: MrsMojo
Date Posted: 24 September 2008 at 6:17pm
I'm so sorry that you're going through all of this Kate.  I hope that the doc can give you some answers.

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Posted By: busymum
Date Posted: 24 September 2008 at 7:08pm
Weird - it's not twins, is it? One ok, the other not?

When will you get to ask your dr about it?

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Posted By: minik8e
Date Posted: 24 September 2008 at 7:10pm
Will go and get another blood test first thing Friday morning and get the result Friday afternoon. Then I guess we take it from there!!

That's the 5th-ish time someone has mentioned twins! It has occurred to us, it's just a waiting game now.

I've calmed down though LOL


Posted By: _Soda_
Date Posted: 24 September 2008 at 7:38pm

hun what a huge shock for you! and not a very professional nurse there too!

i soo hope its good news for you- hang in there hun heres hoping for answers on friday! *HUGS*



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Posted By: Emmecat
Date Posted: 25 September 2008 at 7:54am

Gosh Kate, that sucks!

But I'm with Busymum....I wonder if it was twins?  Arrgh the waiting either way must be so hard.

Hang on in there mate



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Posted By: emz
Date Posted: 25 September 2008 at 8:05am
hugs Kate, I have no idea what you're going through but imagine it must be terrible having to wait it out.. I think you're doing amazingly well.

I hope whatever happens, it sorts itself out soon for you so you can move on whatever the outcome

((hugs))


Posted By: mummymegs
Date Posted: 25 September 2008 at 8:41am
Hugs Kate..this must be a really trying time for you.


Posted By: DzinerGirl
Date Posted: 25 September 2008 at 8:54am
Kate..I hope you get some answers soon it must be hard not being able to move on either one way or the other


Posted By: sally belly
Date Posted: 25 September 2008 at 9:10am
Originally posted by emz emz wrote:

hugs Kate, I have no idea what you're going through but imagine it must be terrible having to wait it out.. I think you're doing amazingly well.

I hope whatever happens, it sorts itself out soon for you so you can move on whatever the outcome

((hugs))


Ditto from me too & more hugs.

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Posted By: minik8e
Date Posted: 25 September 2008 at 9:28am
Thanks guys It's really funny, I don't know if it's just mind games but my nausea has come back At the moment, because everything is so ridiculous, I mean really, who else gets things like this!! all I can do is laugh about it (or I'll break down really). I'm not hoping or expecting anything, I'm just carrying on as normal, peeing all the time etc and will find out tomorrow afternoon with the results of my next blood test what the story is.


Posted By: Aprilfools
Date Posted: 25 September 2008 at 12:19pm
My fingers crossed for you minik8e.

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Posted By: mummyofprinces
Date Posted: 25 September 2008 at 1:06pm
hun, thinking of you! will be checking in tomorrow pm to see how you got on.

hugs

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Posted By: sally belly
Date Posted: 26 September 2008 at 9:15am
Good luck for your bloods today Kate. I hope you manage to get some answers as to what's going on

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Posted By: MrsMojo
Date Posted: 26 September 2008 at 9:20am
Thinking of you Kate.

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Posted By: BugTeeny
Date Posted: 26 September 2008 at 10:42am
Thinking of you here, too.
*hugs*

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Posted By: TraceyA
Date Posted: 26 September 2008 at 11:23am
Checking up on you hun.

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Posted By: sweetpea
Date Posted: 26 September 2008 at 11:29am
Thinking of you Kate hope you get some answers soon.


Posted By: minik8e
Date Posted: 26 September 2008 at 11:49am
Heya, blood test results should be back later this afternoon....I'm having a heck of a day at work and feel like bursting into tears and walking out (while swearing at management) so it's a brilliant day for it LOL


Posted By: kezplanet
Date Posted: 26 September 2008 at 12:10pm
Hang in there Kate, I hope the results give you some answers one way or the other.  Waiting is a cow tho!!!

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Posted By: Hopes
Date Posted: 26 September 2008 at 12:15pm
Thinking of you. Any chance of taking the rest of the arvo off?


Posted By: DzinerGirl
Date Posted: 26 September 2008 at 12:23pm
Originally posted by minik8e minik8e wrote:

Heya, blood test results should be back later this afternoon....I'm having a heck of a day at work and feel like bursting into tears and walking out (while swearing at management) so it's a brilliant day for it LOL


Awww

*fingers crossed* for your results


Posted By: jack_&_charli
Date Posted: 26 September 2008 at 1:24pm
what a rough day for you hun!!   crappy work day is the last thing you need!
take a 'half mental day'

i hope you get some answers to what's going on this afternoon

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Posted By: minik8e
Date Posted: 26 September 2008 at 1:30pm
I wish I could take the rest of the day off. I really have had it with management at the moment. Apparently I need to take some communication courses too, as I am somewhat abrupt and I don't back down when something is wrong (funny that...I thought that was the point - to get things right??) but oh well. Only 2 and a half hours though till I'll get my results...we're supposed to be staying for drinks tonight because there's a whole lot of Head Office people here today, plus branch management staff, but really, I can't see that I'm going to be in the mood. I don't have the temperament today to deal with the niceties.


Posted By: BugTeeny
Date Posted: 26 September 2008 at 1:47pm
If they knew what was going on I'm sure they'd understand. Sucks

I hope you can get through it OK.

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Posted By: minik8e
Date Posted: 26 September 2008 at 1:49pm
My actual office manager does, but the bigger guys don't...mainly cos they won't really care I think. They're interested in numbers, not people.

Wow, sorry for the ranting. I really am in a bad mood and I need to get it under control LOL


Posted By: MrsMojo
Date Posted: 26 September 2008 at 2:22pm

Originally posted by minik8e minik8e wrote:



Wow, sorry for the ranting. I really am in a bad mood and I need to get it under control LOL

 

There's no need to apologise.  We're here so you can rant to us.  Anyone that doesn't want to be here for you isn't reading this thread.  I think I can speak for all of us when I say that we all wish we could help you or offer you comfort and if us listening to you is doing that, even just a smidgeon, then please rant as much as you need to and we'll be here for you.



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Posted By: Andie
Date Posted: 26 September 2008 at 2:37pm
Hun, holding it together at work all day is just asking too much of even the strongest woman given the circumstances. Maybe a word to your office manager and they could sort out the rest of the day off for you? Whatever's less stressful for you, eh - staying another few hours or trying to take off. If you're thinking of wagging the drinks & niceties tonight then good on ya. Sure, you could use a drink, but maybe one at home in your jammie-jims with your DF looking after you.

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Posted By: LizzyJ
Date Posted: 26 September 2008 at 3:15pm
Rant Rant Rant i say!!

I will be peeking back all arvo waiting for your results, the eternal optimist in me has everything crossed, except the legs now we are ttc again lol

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Posted By: sally belly
Date Posted: 26 September 2008 at 3:17pm
Originally posted by MrsMojo MrsMojo wrote:

Originally posted by minik8e minik8e wrote:



Wow, sorry for the ranting. I really am in a bad mood and I need to get it under control LOL


 


There's no need to apologise.  We're here so you can rant to us.  Anyone that doesn't want to be here for you isn't reading this thread.  I think I can speak for all of us when I say that we all wish we could help you or offer you comfort and if us listening to you is doing that, even just a smidgeon, then please rant as much as you need to and we'll be here for you.



Totally agree 100%. I'm crossing my fingers for some good results come 4pm

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Posted By: minik8e
Date Posted: 26 September 2008 at 3:33pm
LOL PMSL....ahhh man, I have to laugh or I'm going to crack.

My HCGs are doubling as they should for a normal pregnancy. I may just be a strange woman who gets my AF while pregnant it seems (as I am still bleeding, just like a normal period, just lightly).

Another blood test next week!!!


Posted By: LizzyJ
Date Posted: 26 September 2008 at 3:36pm
oh kate thats great!!!! i'm stoked!!! totally stoked!!!

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Posted By: Hopes
Date Posted: 26 September 2008 at 3:39pm
Brilliant!


Posted By: minik8e
Date Posted: 26 September 2008 at 3:41pm
Lizzy....I'm not until I get another test next week!!! Going to make it a cow for dates, seriously!! I mean really...how do I calculate when my EDD is, if indeed I am?? I wish I could have a scan!!!


Posted By: cuppatea
Date Posted: 26 September 2008 at 3:57pm
That's sounds really promising. Will they not send you for a scan? i would have thought with the bleeding they would send you for one at around 6-7 weeks to look for a heartbeat.

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Posted By: DzinerGirl
Date Posted: 26 September 2008 at 3:59pm
Originally posted by minik8e minik8e wrote:

My HCGs are doubling as they should for a normal pregnancy. I may just be a strange woman who gets my AF while pregnant it seems (as I am still bleeding, just like a normal period, just lightly).

Another blood test next week!!!


Good sign so far though with the HCG levels doubling though...focus on the positive hun sometimes it's all we can do


Posted By: minik8e
Date Posted: 26 September 2008 at 4:03pm
LOL ahhh I'm just not focussing on anything at the moment (including work)....

cuppatea - yeah probably, but by my LMP (so, not this one) I would still only be 5w1d....so maybe in a week or two?? Just have to do another blood test next week to make sure it is viable and then take it from there I guess. At least it's doubling right!!


Posted By: cuppatea
Date Posted: 26 September 2008 at 4:07pm
Yep doubling is an awesome sign, and yep at 5w you wouldn't see much, not enough to give you any answers or piece of mind. I expect they will offer you a scan once you are 6w + Try to take it easy and good luck for next weeks test.

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Posted By: minik8e
Date Posted: 26 September 2008 at 4:10pm
Just did some calculations, and my doubling time is 1.61 days to double....have gone from 7 to 38 in 4 days....they're still so low that it's really anybody's guess!!!

At least I might get an actual clear positive on a HPT if I did one LOL


Posted By: sally belly
Date Posted: 26 September 2008 at 4:14pm
Have you tried googling hcg results? Although that may not be a good thing to do as all pregnancies are different & they don't always do what they're supposed to do (hcg included). I only mention it because I've seen other people on here look at graphs to see what the hcg "should" be doing

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Posted By: minik8e
Date Posted: 26 September 2008 at 4:18pm
Yeah...but it makes it hard because I don't know how pg I would be....I highly doubt I would be 5w, with levels that low!! It does fit for 3-4 weeks pg though LOL I've just looked at the calculator for doubling times, and that's all good. Next week (will see how long I can wait for LOL) it should be....around 150 on Tuesday, or 300 on Thursday.


Posted By: sally belly
Date Posted: 26 September 2008 at 4:26pm
It's going to be a long weekend isn't it

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Posted By: minik8e
Date Posted: 26 September 2008 at 4:31pm
Hehehe ahhh I just don't know...I can't concentrate on it, because that's just asking for trouble really.

I wonder how long I can hold out for...will go in on Monday and pick up the test form anyway...


Posted By: kezplanet
Date Posted: 26 September 2008 at 5:03pm
Sounding good Kate, good luck for the next test!

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Posted By: emz
Date Posted: 26 September 2008 at 5:36pm
Oh Kate, I'm glad its positive news! Now multiply wee cells, multiply!

I had a scan at about 6-7 weeks I think, and we easily saw the heartbeat, so shouldn't be long to wait.


Posted By: Aprilfools
Date Posted: 26 September 2008 at 5:45pm
I'm so glad it's good news for you today.
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Posted By: MrsMojo
Date Posted: 26 September 2008 at 6:14pm

Kate I'm so happy that your HCGs are doubling! 

I never got HCGs done for Michaela but I've learnt from the lovely ladies on here that the levels aren't so important, it's the rate at which they increase that matters.  I'm pretty sure Emma's said in the past that her HCG levels were really low last pregnancy - the result is Chiara.

I'll be keeping you in my thoughts and prayers and have everything crossed for you(well, like Lizzy, won't have my legs crossed since that's no good for TTC)



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Posted By: MrsMojo
Date Posted: 26 September 2008 at 6:17pm
BTW being highly emotional is very common in the first trimester (I cried over bread - literally.... for hours) and i think u hav more reason than most pregnant women to be emotional

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Posted By: sally belly
Date Posted: 26 September 2008 at 6:28pm
I can't find my hcg results which probably means I threw them away. Anyway, like Jo said it's the doubling that counts.

I'm having another wine for you now that I'm safely home & won't be heading out again tonight.

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Posted By: busymum
Date Posted: 26 September 2008 at 6:30pm
Geez what a long wait for you. Hope it all goes (stays) well.

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Posted By: mum2paris
Date Posted: 26 September 2008 at 7:34pm
WOOOTT!!! have been checking back all day to see how you got on.

Hope it all turns out for you!

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Posted By: Jennz
Date Posted: 27 September 2008 at 4:28am
I have no idea if this is even possible but maybe if you ovulated twice in one cycle (it happens) then maybe the first egg wasn't fertilised but the second egg was? That could maybe possibly slightly explain the bleeding and weirdness with your HCG levels- just a theory anyway

Good luck with everything! Hope it all turns out

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Posted By: jack_&_charli
Date Posted: 27 September 2008 at 8:03am
i'm so happy to read your levels are going up!!!!    

hang in there hun.........and bub!

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Posted By: mummyofprinces
Date Posted: 27 September 2008 at 4:59pm
good news about your levels going up!!!

you did mention that you think it was antibiotics that made the pill not work.... I would say you didnt ovulate before then so... when did you take them and give yourself a few days for your ovary to spit out that little egg and I guess that would the earliest you ovulated???? Not really important at this stage I suppose, but might give you something else to think about for a few minutes.

fingers crossed those numbers keep going up hun!!!!

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Posted By: Emmecat
Date Posted: 27 September 2008 at 6:19pm

Kate- glad to hear your levels are rising, that's a great sign.

I'm with Mel re the antibiotics....this cycle that I just concieved in, I was on antibiotics as well and it delayed my ovulation by a whole week!  I know this for a fact as I was charting and I've also now had two scans which verify *my* dates, not my LMP dates.

So you're probably a lot earlier than you think you are...and  yeah the bleeding is worrying but might just be one of those weird random things that some women get. I hear it's not *that* unusual...esp the first trimester!



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Posted By: Vanillabean
Date Posted: 01 October 2008 at 8:09am
Hey, what a crazy ride you have been on. So pleased that your hcg is doubling. From my reading on hcg (which I've been doing a lot of recently) the only time hcg goes down and then goes up is in the case of vanishing twin syndrome i.e. there are two embryos and one miscarries. If that is the case then there is every chance that the other embie will be just fine. Thinking of you

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Posted By: minik8e
Date Posted: 01 October 2008 at 10:06am
I got my last HCG results (well, not last as I have to go for another one in a week again) and they're at 3...so yeah, another m/c. Now to go down the specialist road. Nice.


Posted By: surfergirl
Date Posted: 01 October 2008 at 10:10am
Sorry Minik8e...had my fingers crossed you'd be back in with the May Mummies. Big Hugs -  - let's hope the specialist can give you some answers!

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Posted By: emz
Date Posted: 01 October 2008 at 10:28am
Oh Kate I'm so sorry to hear that. I hope you can get some answers as to why this keeps happening to you and DF. Hugs hun, thinking of you.


Posted By: MrsMojo
Date Posted: 01 October 2008 at 10:31am
I'm really sorry Kate.

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Posted By: nellybelly
Date Posted: 01 October 2008 at 10:36am
Ohhh Kate I was so hoping for a very different outcome, I am so so sorry I just don't know what to say, it is gutting.



Posted By: cuppatea
Date Posted: 01 October 2008 at 11:02am
So sorry for your loss.

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Posted By: BugTeeny
Date Posted: 01 October 2008 at 12:40pm
I'm sorry Kate.
Let's hope the specialist can figure things out quick smart and get you on your way

Thinking of you

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Posted By: My3Sons
Date Posted: 01 October 2008 at 12:57pm

awww that stinks!! Big hugs hon, that isnt fair, I hope you are doing ok!!



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Posted By: Emmecat
Date Posted: 01 October 2008 at 1:06pm
Gutted to hear that Kate. So sorry for your loss.

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Posted By: CarrieMum
Date Posted: 01 October 2008 at 1:54pm
Very sad news. Im really sorry that you have to go through this. Take care of yourself.


Posted By: Leelee
Date Posted: 01 October 2008 at 3:49pm
I'm so so sorry to hear that Kate, I hope you are ok. take care of yourself

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Posted By: Bizzy
Date Posted: 01 October 2008 at 4:31pm
i was thinking about you yesterday hoping for positive news.. sorry to hear its not... but at least now you can stop wondering and thinking you are not normal and got on to finding a solution.

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Posted By: caitlynsmygirl
Date Posted: 01 October 2008 at 6:00pm
Im so sorry to hear that Kate, big hugs, my thoughts are with you

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Posted By: kebakat
Date Posted: 01 October 2008 at 6:01pm
Sorry kate!! Fingers crossed that a specialist can give you some answers


Posted By: busymum
Date Posted: 01 October 2008 at 7:10pm
Good that you have an answer but *awwww* I'm sorry that was the answer.

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Posted By: jack_&_charli
Date Posted: 01 October 2008 at 7:16pm
awww hun i'm sorry it didn't end happily   was thinking about you yesterday and wondering how you got on

i hope the specialist can give you some answers



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Posted By: Vanillabean
Date Posted: 01 October 2008 at 7:23pm
So, so sorry.

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Posted By: mummyofprinces
Date Posted: 01 October 2008 at 8:50pm
Oh kate, I am so sorry hun. Thoughts are with you.

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