Each to their own but...
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Topic: Each to their own but...
Posted By: sally belly
Subject: Each to their own but...
Date Posted: 29 October 2008 at 7:33pm
This man seriously scares the daylights out of me   .
http://www.3news.co.nz/News/Brian-Tamaki-announces-plans-for-standalone-community-in-South-Auckland/tabid/209/articleID/77688/cat/87/Default.aspx - Plans for Destiny City -------------    
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Posted By: Bubbaloo
Date Posted: 29 October 2008 at 7:41pm
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Iwas thinking the same thing when I saw this on the news he's crazy and I feel sorry for the people that'll get sucked in and sell their house to live but as you said each to their own. ------------- http://lilypie.com" rel="nofollow">  Was danni-chick Mum to James My Angel 28/07/08 |
Posted By: pepsi
Date Posted: 29 October 2008 at 8:00pm
| One word. Cult. |
Posted By: .Mel
Date Posted: 29 October 2008 at 8:11pm
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Yeah I was a little concerned when I read that. It is a little scary.. and yeah I have to agree it is very cultish (if there is such a word) ------------- Mr Mellow (16) Miss Attitude (8) Destructa Kid (3) 
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Posted By: MelanieAndBree
Date Posted: 29 October 2008 at 8:17pm
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Exactly what i was thinking...
kind of makes me think of the thing i saw on oprah about the polygamist sects... ------------- Melanie. Mum to Briahna Robyn, 3yrs |
pepsi wrote:Posted By: caitlynsmygirl
Date Posted: 29 October 2008 at 8:25pm
oh my 
Melanie , when was that Oprah episode, cos I recently read a book about a woman who escaped from a polygamist sect , and I think she was interviewed on Oprah , the sect , a name I can't remember , was on the news cos the leader was arrested and all the children put into authority care , but I think the children have released back to their parents now ...anyway , the book was shocking . ------------- 
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Posted By: FionaS
Date Posted: 29 October 2008 at 8:52pm
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Very scary ------------- Mummy to Gabrielle and Ashley |
Posted By: my4beauties
Date Posted: 29 October 2008 at 8:53pm
 I hope no one actually sells their home and donates the money to live there!! What happens if they ever wanted to, or needed to leave?? Do they get their money back? I doubt it!!!------------- My babies: R (9),G (7), J (5) http://lilypie.com" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: Bobbie
Date Posted: 29 October 2008 at 9:11pm
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Yeah agreed. When I heard about that all I could think was "Utah V2" except unfortunately he won't be disappearing to the middle of nowhere. -------------  
 
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Posted By: fattartsrock
Date Posted: 29 October 2008 at 9:14pm
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is it just me or is "Bishop Tamaki's" hair looking a little 80's john farnahm? Thats whats scaring me.... ------------- The Honest Un PC Parent of 2, usually stuck in the naughty corner! :P |
Posted By: .Mel
Date Posted: 29 October 2008 at 9:18pm
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Check this out
http://www.cults.co.nz/d.php - Cult ------------- Mr Mellow (16) Miss Attitude (8) Destructa Kid (3)
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Posted By: queenbean
Date Posted: 29 October 2008 at 9:20pm
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Yep, that freaks me out for a number of reasons.
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Posted By: Maya
Date Posted: 29 October 2008 at 10:12pm
*nods in agreement* -------------  Maya Grace (28/02/03)
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The Gremlins:Sienna Marie & Mercedes Kailah (14/10/06)
Lil miss:Chiara Louise Chloe (09/07/08)
Her ladyship:Rosalia Sophie Anais (18/06/12)
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Posted By: fallen
Date Posted: 29 October 2008 at 10:27pm
| I thought that too. There was one lady on the news who was going to sell their 6 houses and go live in his commune. I hope that lady's family manage to stop her somehow. |
Posted By: Jennz
Date Posted: 30 October 2008 at 5:24am
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That is scary ------------- Jen, Charlotte 7 & Kate 3 
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Posted By: Hopes
Date Posted: 30 October 2008 at 7:29am
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Hmm...
While I don't see anything wrong with a group of people who share the same beliefs wanting to live near each other (makes sense in many ways) this sounds pretty full on to me too. It sounds like there's being a lot of pressure put on people to move (From the article - "You'd shift for a payrise?" he asks his followers. "Would you shift for the purpose of God?") Everyone's got a right to believe what they want, of course, and even if someone has very different views I wouldn't lable them a cult if they're choosing to live that way out of free will. It's when people's choices get taken away that things get cultish... have to admit that this sounds a little bit that way to me. If it was my Mum selling up her property, I'd be worried. |
Posted By: Paws
Date Posted: 30 October 2008 at 7:56am
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There is something that way it's been done and all leaves me feeling a little cold and more than a little uncomforatable. ------------- http://lilypie.com"> 
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Posted By: Neeks
Date Posted: 30 October 2008 at 8:07am
Destiny Church IS a cult!!!!! 
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Posted By: MissCandice
Date Posted: 30 October 2008 at 9:19am
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Holy crap..
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Posted By: susieq
Date Posted: 30 October 2008 at 9:21am
| I dont like Destiny Church either |
Posted By: ohanlon82
Date Posted: 30 October 2008 at 9:28am
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hmmmmm is all i can say..
sounds like a cult to me ------------- http://lb2f.lilypie.com/TikiPic.php/RPaODBg.jpg |
Posted By: DzinerGirl
Date Posted: 30 October 2008 at 9:55am
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Yep me too...or at least it's going to become one..
Also the lady with 6 properties...that's going to be some serious dough to give up! I wonder where in 'South Auckland' this place is going to be because I bet it would effect house prices in the area... |
Posted By: BaAsKa
Date Posted: 30 October 2008 at 10:06am
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I use to be good friends with some people from destinys church and from stuff they had said to me i certainly thought of it as a cult! they had automatic payments set up to go to the church which shocked me and one of them even "donated" a very expensive lifestyle block to them!! crazy if you ask me!!
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Posted By: DzinerGirl
Date Posted: 30 October 2008 at 10:12am
Friends of ours belong to a church in Howick (not Destiny or anything) and they have an AP payment to the church as well...I must admit I did find it strange as well but maybe it's quite common? But donating a lifestyle block...geez! |
Posted By: Hopes
Date Posted: 30 October 2008 at 10:32am
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Well, we do dontate to our Church... we don't have an AP set up, but maybe that's just convinient for them? At the same time, the amount of money that gets donated is what gets to me. I mean, a lifestyle block?!
I'm happy to give to our church, because I know how the money is spent, and I'm happy with it (mostly on repairs, seminars, things like that). If I was lining someone's pockets, I'd be getting out! |
Posted By: Daizy
Date Posted: 30 October 2008 at 1:12pm
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Im not a fan of Brian Tamaki but I did come across this article which puts a slightly different twist on the original story. http://www.stuff.co.nz/4743471a11.html - http://www.stuff.co.nz/4743471a11.html Still dont know who is more trustworthy, the media or Brian. But it wouldn't have been the first time that newspapers have twisted the truth for a good story.
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Posted By: Jay_R
Date Posted: 30 October 2008 at 1:44pm
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Donating to the Church is called Tithing and it is actually a very common practice. Nothing at all sinister about an AP going to the Church. The donation of a lifestyle block though.... VERY generous!
I'd not go so far as to call it a cult, but it certainly isn't something I'd be into at all. |
Posted By: MelanieAndBree
Date Posted: 30 October 2008 at 1:49pm
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It was a while ago now, maybe a few months? Yeah it was her they interviewd cause they were talking about the leader guy being arrested and stuff.. poor kids ------------- Melanie. Mum to Briahna Robyn, 3yrs |
Posted By: caitlynsmygirl
Date Posted: 30 October 2008 at 7:22pm
hehe ...nice pun  -------------
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Posted By: caitlynsmygirl
Date Posted: 30 October 2008 at 7:26pm
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You should read her book Mel , I'll try remember what it was called, was fascinating.
My friend's mum went to DC , and a fellow church member came over one night when i happened to be there too, and proceeded to tell my friend's mum, that the reason their youngest daughter was autistic was because of the mums " past sins " and other hurtful stuff, I looked up from my plate and said " whats that saying? he whos without sin , cast the first stone ?" and she got sooooo mad , twas very very funny ...thats not necessarily a destiny church trait , but it wasn't a very good trait to have at all ,either way .. -------------
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Posted By: mummy_becks
Date Posted: 30 October 2008 at 7:37pm
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Um yeah I am thinking cult as well. I had a good look at that website Mel put up and that was really interesting. ------------- I was a puree feeder, forward facing, cot sleeping, pram pushing kind of Mum... and my kids survived! |
Posted By: Hopes
Date Posted: 30 October 2008 at 7:49pm
Well put! Shame on that lady for saying something like that. |
Posted By: LuluBelle85
Date Posted: 30 October 2008 at 7:56pm
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OK... with things like 'so his parishioners never have to leave'... is anyone else thinking "Jonestown"?
*shudder* |
Posted By: caliandjack
Date Posted: 30 October 2008 at 7:56pm
It is a normal part of church, but Brian Tamaki preaches the verse from Malachai every service, and the amount he expects is a % of a persons income. Oh well a fool and his money are easily parted. and someone once said if you want to be rich build a church. ------------- http://lilypie.com" rel="nofollow">   [/url] Angel June 2012 |
Posted By: Paws
Date Posted: 30 October 2008 at 8:17pm
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Yeah 10% is the normal tithing amount but a lot of people may not be able to afford that so tithe happily what they can. I used to have an AP set up also...we normally do it through internet banking now. ------------- http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: fire_engine
Date Posted: 30 October 2008 at 8:43pm
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Yep, we give 10% as well, but not just to church - we give to other church-related organisations. That's our choice and we don't get pressure at church that we must give that amount.
I was a little alarmed by the phrase that BT was wanting to establish a 'holy nation' in South Auckland, but wonder if that's his phrase or the media's. ------------- Mum to two wee boys |
Posted By: BaAsKa
Date Posted: 31 October 2008 at 11:57am
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these people i know from DC had to go through a very long lot of counceling to be accepted because she had had an abortion when she was a teenager
Now im not sure how that all works but it seemed a little harsh to me
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Posted By: caitlynsmygirl
Date Posted: 31 October 2008 at 12:18pm
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that is, whatever happened to "thou shalt not judge" huh ?
The same lady (who interrupted me from my pork chops i might add ) also said that night that my friend's boyfriend was going to go to hell, because he was an alcoholic etc etc ...I said " oh ...have you been there have you ?...I thought it wasnt up to us ..." I think she called me a heathen ,I didn't care , I just wanted my dinner dammit ! and she was ruining the meal ! KELLY LIKES HER FOOD!!! -------------
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Posted By: LittleBug
Date Posted: 31 October 2008 at 12:23pm
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Setting up an AP to tithe at church isn't uncommon. If we had a set wage and knew how much we wanted to give each week, I would probably do it too. But we don't get any pressure at church to give a lot... it's a personal thing.
I think that the whole plan of a secluded area for Destiny church members could be quite scary, potentially... especially if it's going to be how the media make out. ------------- Chloe (4 years) and Oliver (3 years). |
Posted By: pepsi
Date Posted: 01 November 2008 at 7:01pm
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On the topic of Destiny Church...this is today's news to stew about..
DESTINY CHURCH is set to become an Urban Maori Authority meaning it could be in line for millions of dollars in government contracts and Waitangi Treaty payouts. Yep...meaning tax payers money will start funding Brian's cult...great.. http://www.stuff.co.nz/sundaystartimes/4731918a6442.html - Linky Does anyone else have the feeling he's setting himself up to get into politics as well? Now THAT would be scary... |
Posted By: mummy_becks
Date Posted: 01 November 2008 at 7:38pm
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Claims for Treaty of Waitangi have now closed I think so he can't get any of that money (well new claims that is). I can not believe John and Willie are behind him. I listen to them at work and usually agree with them - THIS I SO DO NOT!!!! He has already tried to get into parliment before and failed. ------------- I was a puree feeder, forward facing, cot sleeping, pram pushing kind of Mum... and my kids survived! |
Posted By: lizzle
Date Posted: 01 November 2008 at 8:33pm
| He can get that money Becks. He is joining a group - can't remember it's name -that is on behalf of maori with no iwi - or who have forgotten. So rather than it being a new treaty claim, it is an old established one, just he is joining the new group....if you get what I mean. |
Posted By: Kels
Date Posted: 01 November 2008 at 9:31pm
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OMgosh.... Freakish cult alright and I think he is shafting people out of heaps of money for his own needs. He is the one going to hell...... Next they will start raping the kids and setting up marriages for 12 year olds or something...... ------------- http://lilypie.com"> 
Busy mum to Miss 15yrs, Miss 10yrs and Master 4yrs |
Posted By: .Mel
Date Posted: 01 November 2008 at 9:37pm
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DH knows where the land is that he is wanted to buy, it's where he used to work. He was talking to someone there on Friday and apparently they have been to the site quite a few times, and are even looking at buying the netball courts next door.
The thing that concerns me most is that it's going to be a walled city, so what happens when the kids turn 18 and decide that they dont' want to be part of his city anymore? What happens if people start questioning his views? Ohhhh it's just too wierd for me to even comprehend. ------------- Mr Mellow (16) Miss Attitude (8) Destructa Kid (3)
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Posted By: Kels
Date Posted: 01 November 2008 at 9:41pm
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Me too Mel ------------- http://lilypie.com">
Busy mum to Miss 15yrs, Miss 10yrs and Master 4yrs |
Posted By: mummy_becks
Date Posted: 01 November 2008 at 9:43pm
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Yeah I did think that he would jump in a claim that was already going. So do not trust him at all. ------------- I was a puree feeder, forward facing, cot sleeping, pram pushing kind of Mum... and my kids survived! |