Help - confused about bottle feeding
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Topic: Help - confused about bottle feeding
Posted By: FionaO
Subject: Help - confused about bottle feeding
Date Posted: 15 December 2008 at 11:52am
Hi,
Ok quick history, ds is now bottle fed following weeks of struggling with BF, consulting everyone that could help etc etc but he could just not latch and drink.
Anyway he has always been happy on the bottle until about 10 days ago, he would happily drink lots and is/was gaining plenty of weight.
All of a sudden about 90ml into the bottle he will push it out and scream and then refuse to take any more, i would be ok if it was just that but after feeding he is upset for some time, lots of patting and burping and eventually he calms down and we can put him down and he will play etc, only problem then is he has not taken enough and we need to top up a bit before he can nap.
Some feeds he is better than others, but its the crying following feeding that is concerning me, i wouldn't mind if he was just pushing it out and saying no more, he then totally goes crazy if we even put the bottle near his mouth again.
I have A Dr app this afternoon, just wondering if anyone else had experienced this and whether seeing the Dr is a good idea or am I just overreacting? Guess I am querying either problems with wind or maybe a bit of reflux (but he never spits up)
Any thoughts greatly appreciated.
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Posted By: Shezamumof3
Date Posted: 15 December 2008 at 12:03pm
Have you tried him on a different formula? because caden did this to us, he would scream as soon as the bottle went near him. I thought it was the bottles to start with so changed to Avent, but nope still the same, so back to TT, then I thought it was his teeth so tried syrimnge feeding for a while but still the same, in the end I decided it was his formula, so I changed him and he was happy as after that.
He was on the Nestle NAN Gold, and it was giving him chronic tummy pain, which is why he was fussing and crying at the bottle.
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Posted By: kebakat
Date Posted: 15 December 2008 at 12:07pm
Or the other thing is he on the right teat for his age. I think with avent bottles for example they have a 0-1 month teat and then a 1 month +
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Posted By: FionaO
Date Posted: 15 December 2008 at 12:12pm
Yep, we changed up to the right teat size a while back when he started to get annoyed with the newborn teat.
I am thinking about changing formula, but how do you know which one to try next. We are on Karricare gold plus, Sheza what did you change to?
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Posted By: Shezamumof3
Date Posted: 15 December 2008 at 12:27pm
Ahhhh the Gold formulas can cause really bad wind in babies. I think that under 6 months old the best formulas are the plain ones.
It was the Nestle NAN Gold that caused caden all the pain
The plain ones seem to be much easier for them to digest and are a lot gentler on their little tummys. They make out that the Gold ones are better, when they really are not.
I would try him on the plain Karicare from birth, it definitly sounds like its the gold formula causing him the pain.
Caden is now on plain S26 and its the best he has ever been, we have tried karicare and he got constipated.
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Posted By: kebakat
Date Posted: 15 December 2008 at 12:27pm
Try a plain formula. Not a gold version or a plus. Daniel did very very well on the plain S26. We tried karicare, nuture, nuture gold before trying S26 and didn't look back. THe gold versions have one little added extra which they don't need and little bubbas struggle to digest it.
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Posted By: FionaO
Date Posted: 15 December 2008 at 12:44pm
Ohhhhh, really even though he has always been on Gold.
Interesting, I have asked DH to go and get some plain formula. I really think it is wind, as some time after feeding he can taken more.
Take this morning, gobbled 90, then went nuts, and then won't settle until he has had another 60 (and he should be drinking about 150) just means all my feeds are all over the shop which is hopeless.
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Posted By: Shezamumof3
Date Posted: 15 December 2008 at 1:10pm
Yeah it could have just suddenly started to not agree with him.
I think you will see a good change on the normal karicare, you may need to give him a little nit more than normal or more feeds than normal, but he shouldnt get the bad tummy pains on it.
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Posted By: MummyFreckle
Date Posted: 15 December 2008 at 1:20pm
Also - dont get too hung up on what they "should" be having....Oli has always preferred smaller bottles more often. I think he was about 4months old before we managed to get a whole 150mls into him!
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Posted By: FionaO
Date Posted: 15 December 2008 at 1:21pm
thanks, its hard not to think about what they should be having, but currently I know he is still hungry.
Sheza is there a reason he may want/need more on the plain formula?
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Posted By: Shezamumof3
Date Posted: 15 December 2008 at 1:45pm
I think, but I could be wrong, the Gold ones may fill them up more...I found(and this could just be Caden) he wanted more of the S26 than the other stuff we had him on. I dont know if thats cos its "lighter" or whether he just likes the taste more lol
he was having 150mls, once he was on S26 he would polish off 200mls and now he has 240ml.
Yeah and what SimSam said, each baby will drink what they are comfortable with, if he only drinks 100mls and seems happy after that, dont worry, he might just drink more of the next bottle! Just like us, they arnt so hungry at some times and really hungry at other.
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Posted By: FionaO
Date Posted: 15 December 2008 at 2:03pm
its that part we are currently missing, he drinks and then is not happy.
We'll give the other formula a go and see how we get on.
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Posted By: Shezamumof3
Date Posted: 15 December 2008 at 2:14pm
Yep, he will probably drink more or his normal amount of the normal karicare, if its the Gold one making his tummy sore.
Its so hard to tell what the problem is with babys cos they cant tell you whats wrong, but your lil boy sounds just like caden was when his tummy was sore. I really hope the new formula make him feel heaps better, and it will make you feel heaps better knowing that he is happy
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Posted By: FionaO
Date Posted: 15 December 2008 at 2:19pm
I hope so too.
Poor wee monkey is in bed after really crying and snacking on small bits (50ml) or so for the last couple of hours. I really need him to sleep and have a good long break so he can digest it all. But he is hungry, phew what a day.
Thanks heaps for the tips.
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Posted By: Shezamumof3
Date Posted: 15 December 2008 at 2:28pm
Thats ok
Bottle feeding can be just as confusing and stressful as breastfeeding I have found.
Is DH bring home some formula after work?
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Posted By: FionaO
Date Posted: 15 December 2008 at 3:22pm
he is - yay.
I know bottle feeding is just as tricky, just without the sore nipples I guess.
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Posted By: Shezamumof3
Date Posted: 15 December 2008 at 5:02pm
yeah thats right hehe. Omg sore nipples *shudder*
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Posted By: BessieBear
Date Posted: 15 December 2008 at 5:13pm
hmm fifi ill just repeat what sheza said as rayn did the same thing except it was the nurture, we had him on it from 4 weeks old after BF and then suddenly he didnt want it so we swapped him to s-26 and he loves it. Although he only seems to want less than what the tin recommends but hes not a guts like some babies. hehe.
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Posted By: Shezamumof3
Date Posted: 15 December 2008 at 6:17pm
hehe caden is a guts! lol
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Posted By: FionaO
Date Posted: 15 December 2008 at 7:57pm
Ok well I talked to Dh during the day and told him all about your comments re the gold stuff and said please buy basic karricare or basic s26, so he came home with s26 gold and then got mad at me saying i didn't say not to buy gold - grrrrr
Anyway swapped it and we have now got s26, i tell you immediately what i notice when you mixed up karricare gold and shook it up, it almost looked fizzy, s26 hardly any bubbles, that has got to be better.
He drank some without much fuss but did not drink much, but then has been very off today and hardly sleeping so think he was tired, we'll see what happens later.
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Posted By: Shezamumof3
Date Posted: 15 December 2008 at 9:20pm
Oh dear lol, poor DH
Caden only drunk a little bit of the first bottle on the non gold stuff I gave him and the next day he drunk his normal amount and then some, then by the afternoon he was a happy baby again
yeah S26 is pretty much bubble free, its great!
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Posted By: FionaO
Date Posted: 16 December 2008 at 8:13am
Well we had a good night, apart from excaping his wrap at 2.30am, but that was easy to fix. Fed at 4am and then up at 7.15, where he polished off 140ml without even thinking, he burped real easy and is now playing on the floor.
I am excited that this might have done it. Either way I am not changing back, the formula looks and smells better, its less grainy and just looks smoother, often the karricare, we'd drink some and then i would see a lump, and this is after having properly shaken it up, s26 just seems better.
Fingers crossed for a good day.
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Posted By: Shezamumof3
Date Posted: 16 December 2008 at 9:47am
yay!!!! thats great. Sound like the plain S26 has done the trick!
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Posted By: FionaO
Date Posted: 16 December 2008 at 8:21pm
Ok good feeding all day, less fussing and less screaming, plus he has drunk more and man the smiles I have been getting.
YAY
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Posted By: emz
Date Posted: 16 December 2008 at 8:31pm
Great to hear! Sorry only just saw this thread, but glad today seems to have gone well for you both.
Jack has been on plain old S-26 since 3 weeks old and has had no issues whatsoever. The follow-on is a bit more frothy but still nothing compared to some brands. I highly recommend it to anyone that asks (and its usually the cheapest too!)
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Posted By: Shezamumof3
Date Posted: 16 December 2008 at 9:24pm
Thats great news!!!!
It must be such a relief for you! I know it was for me!
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Posted By: FionaO
Date Posted: 25 January 2009 at 9:14pm
Bumped for Laurie!
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Posted By: KiwiL
Date Posted: 26 January 2009 at 9:55am
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