Feeding Dilemmas.... again....
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Topic: Feeding Dilemmas.... again....
Posted By: KiwiL
Subject: Feeding Dilemmas.... again....
Date Posted: 07 January 2009 at 10:43am
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Apologies in advance to those sick of my emotive rants about all our breastfeeding issues! I have been trying to keep them off the boards so I don't sound like a broken record, but honestly the problems are just all consuming at the moment....
I am still having problems convincing Jackson to stay on the breast for a full feed. We had an amazing week of feeding between Christmas and New Years, where he was taking both sides and working for multiple letdowns. I let myself believe that it was a turning point - he was just feeding so beautifully and I was so relaxed and happy. For some reason, he reverted back to 'normal' Jackson behaviour. He will suck through the fast flow on one breast and then stop. No amount of trying will convince him that there is still milk to be had. He will bite me or just hold the nipple in his mouth and make tunes with his voice on it (apparently my boob is a good instrument). SOMETIMES he will take the other side and do the same thing, but more often than not he will either refuse it, or latch but reject the boob if the letdown does not happen immediately. He simply won't work for his meal. His weight gain has, as usually, been pretty poor. He's getting near to crossing under the 3rd percentile. Feeding is making me desperately unhappy. I feel like a complete failure and that I am letting him down. But I feel frustrated with him as well and I don't think that's a good way to feel. It's affecting the play time we have, and I am not feeling terribly bonded with him when he is feeding. I am finding the stress quite consuming. I have the Lactation Consultant coming to visit me again today... hopefully she will shed some light. I am very close to going onto bottle feeding. BUT - I am terrified of making that choice. Firstly, I feel like I am choosing my happiness over the wellbeing of Jackson, and that I will be depriving him of the goodness of the breast milk. I am also scared that he will be just as bad with the bottle and therefore we will not have any improvement at all. And then he will be just as bad, but not getting any of the breastmilk benefits either. I am worried he won't take the bottle, and I am worried that he won't thrive. It's a complete dilemma. I have thought about expressing and bottle feeding, but my milk supply is already very much suffering from his reluctance to feed, and I am having real problems getting anything out on the pump. I used to be pretty good at it. So I don' think that this is going to be an option. I am also concerned about the logistics of bottle feeding, particularly as Jackson still has a wee feed in the middle of the night. At the moment it's a nice quick, quiet feed and straight back to bed (less than ten minutes). I don't think that can be replicated with bottle feeding. Plus, on the odd occassion Jackson has taken a bottle, he'll only take the milk really warm. Not sure how to manage that when we are out and about. Aurghhh, I am so confused and unhappy and lost. I just feel terrible about the situation, terrible about how I am preforming as a mum and I just don't know what to do. I am SO sorry for the rant, it helps to just get it off my chest. |
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Posted By: Chickoin
Date Posted: 07 January 2009 at 10:58am
You are very welcome to rant all you like chicky, it's what these forums are great for. I hope the LC can help today. Don't feel like you are a failure, you have been trying your hardest to BF for a whole 3 months, 2 weeks and 5 days! That's a long time and you are amazing to get this far without giving up! Don't feel that if you change to formula you are doing it for yourself, it is obvious you are upset because Jackson isn't thriving and you would only change to the formula to benifit him. If he is well, then it will make you happy and that's great 
I am sure if you do go to formula there will be a bit of working out as far as the night feed etc goes, but I'm sure you will work something out. He may even sleep through. But yes, 3 months, 2 weeks and 5 days! You're doing bl**dy well! -------------   
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Posted By: maltese
Date Posted: 07 January 2009 at 11:08am
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OK just a few thoughts from me.
While I am not anti-breastfeeding in the slightest, for me bottle feeding made everything so much easier. Happy mum made for a happy baby and vice versa! I breast fed till 4 months. Between 2.5 to 4 months I was cutting back the breast feeds. It might be worthwhile to give him one bottle of formula a day to see how he takes to it? I was very comfortable at 4 months that I had given her a good start with breast milk - but I still found it hard to switch over. I was trying to wean slowly so that we could both get used to the idea slowly, but one day the boobs just dried up. It actually made it easier as I didn't have the anguish that you are going through. With regards to the "logistics" it is a lot easier than you imagine. I remember feeling the same way as you before changing over completely. I also liked the safety net of having a boob you can just whip out. In the middle of the night I make up a bottle before I go to bed, put it in the fridge. When she cried I would stick it in the microwave, and I could be in her room in under a minute. The real bonus was that she was a slow boob feeder, and at 4 months I would still be up for 45 minutes per feed. With the bottle it was cut right down to 10-15 minutes. When I go out I take a couple of bottles of water heated up in a thermo bag. Then I just need to pour the formula in. Although with it being so hot she is not as concerned about it being warm. No one but you can make the decision for you, and what ever you choose to do will be right. Good luck. ------------- http://lilypie.com"> 
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Posted By: jaycee
Date Posted: 07 January 2009 at 1:47pm
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Hi Laurie, first up . Second - you need to stop beating yourself up. You have done so well to get to 3months 2 weeks and 5 days, i only managed 3 weeks with Amy and 6 weeks with Sophie.
A happy mother and baby is the the most importand thing and FF is not so bad! Yes it costs money and takes more time with the washing bottles and stuff but when I saw how much better both of my girls were once we switched I knew we had made the correct decision for us. Of course I would have loved to have BF for longer but it was not working for us. With regards to going out - a thermal bag and powder pottle is the way to go. At night for Amy I had a bottle warmer but never really liked it. For Sophie I just filled a couple of bottles with very hot water before bed and took them up stairs with me in the thermal bag - amazing how long the water stayed warm. The powder would be in the pottle and so to mix up a bottle took about 10 - 20 seconds  .
I am in Wellington and if you would like to meet up for a coffee one day to have a chat about bottles and how it works (or just to have a moan) just let me know. I am happy to travel but I have Miss 2 1/2 and Miss Crawling Baby so most cafes are out these days  -------------   
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Posted By: lisa85
Date Posted: 07 January 2009 at 2:27pm
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Hunny I so feel your pain only I didn't last as long as you have so good on you for getting this far
I hated BF the girls towards the end I couldn't stand the sight of them and was feeling so useless and like I wasn't getting anywhere. If you don't put yourself first then how is he going to get your very best mothering? Once I changed to bottle feeding I felt guilty for about 5min then never looked back. Suddenly I was enjoying my babies and guess what they are thriving on formula their growth and development has been fantastic and by 9 weeks they were sleeping through the night  We push breastfeeding so much in this country and yes it's the best food for bubs but if it's not working don't beat yourself up because if your not happy then he's not going to be happy.
kiwilaurie wrote - I am also concerned about the logistics of bottle feeding, particularly as Jackson still has a wee feed in the middle of the night. At the moment it's a nice quick, quiet feed and straight back to bed (less than ten minutes). I don't think that can be replicated with bottle feeding. Plus, on the odd occassion Jackson has taken a bottle, he'll only take the milk really warm. Not sure how to manage that when we are out and about. Our girls like it really warm too you can get heat bags that keep the bottle hot while your out and you can always get them to heat it at restaurants and places with microwaves. Its amazing how little that matters. We have 2 babies and still manage to get out for day trips you make it work. Also you'll probably find after a couple of weeks once you have your routine fully down pat with formula he won't need that middle of the night quick feed because he would have had enough during the day. It sounds like you NEED to do this and I know how you feel I wished someone had said to be it's ok to bottle feed. It doesn't make you a bad Mum in fact if your struggling with breast feeding it will probably make you a better Mum to change. 3 months is an awesome effort. Do whats right for you and don't worry about anything else. xxxxx -------------  
TTC #3 since Jan 2010 - PCOS MC April 2010 |
Posted By: concernedmum
Date Posted: 07 January 2009 at 2:46pm
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maybe thats all he wants! just because you dont think he hasnt had a full feed doesnt mean he hasnt! Some kids are just very efficient at feeding.
and re the weight, dont put too much store in the plunket weight guidelines...they are based on bottle babies and i find a lot of breast babies dont gain weight fast... you will prob find he is gaining in other areas ...
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Posted By: weegee
Date Posted: 07 January 2009 at 3:00pm
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I was going to say what concernedmum has said... when babies bite you or sing through your boob it's most likely a sign that they have had enough. It's possible he's just gotten more efficient, and maybe over the break he had a little growth spurt (which doesn't always relate to weight gain, btw) so fed more then.
I hope the LC can help today, but otherwise, if you need to, bottle feeding is not a mortal sin! You've gotten him through the most important time in terms of giving him that immunity etc.
IMHO these are often one and the same, it's not a choice really! ETA and don't apologise for asking, it's what we're all here for! ------------- 
Mum to JJ, 4 July 2008 & Addie, 28 July 2010 |
kiwilaurie wrote:Posted By: KiwiL
Date Posted: 07 January 2009 at 4:27pm
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Thanks for the comments guys. I know FF is not a sin, but I just wanted to succeed with the breast feeding.
I understand the comments about the efficiency. Jackson definately has become more efficient, I know that, but I also know what's a good feed for him. Recently they've been awesome, but they've swung to disastrous. We've done the weighing before and after thing (both him AND me!!) and can see that he is not taking enough. The Lactation Consultant also feels that he is not eating enough during the feed. She also saw his complete reluctance to spending time on the boob waiting for more milk to come down. The supply problems are arising because he won't drain a boob - instead looking for an easy suck on the other, I can also tell that my supply is dipping in a number of ways. Less than two weeks ago, I would give JJ his middle of the night feed, and then express off the breast that he didn't eat from, easily getting 100mls. I would be sore and leaking if I didn't. Now, I can't get more than 40mls off the breast. Last night I didn't bother trying, and still didn't feel full in the morning. The LC has given me a number of strategies, including supplement feeding with a tube, expressing more (using a rented double pump), trying the drug to increase supply (can't remember the name) and offering baby rice early. Obviously I need to give things a fair shot. But I am reluctant to put more drugs into my system, and the double pump is way less comfortable than my electric Avent, and I still couldn't get any more milk on it. It all just seems terribly complicated and I feel that all of this takes more time away from Jackson. I am still very confused, but will see how I get on over the next couple of days, However, I did have to top Jackson up with EBM for his last feed (for once he was trying to get more but couldn't). He only drank a little bit, but it wasn't actually a horrible experience like I thought it would be. He looked into my eyes while drinking (he doesn't do that on the boob) and was quite calm and content. Edited to fix spelling!! |
Posted By: Chickoin
Date Posted: 07 January 2009 at 4:33pm
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Yay, I was just coming to ask you how it all went with the LC.
Have you tried that milkflow or what ever it's called from natropharm? Apparently that's quite good for supply and if that works you won't need the drugs :) Also, just throwing ideas around here, can you feed lying down? If he was calmer looking into your eyes on the bottle then maybe the lying down position would be good. I used to have problems feeding Jody at night, she would keep coming off and getting grumpy about it but now I feed lying down at night and she just stares at me while happily sucking away. -------------
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Posted By: Shezamumof3
Date Posted: 07 January 2009 at 5:08pm
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Big Hugs hun
You have done SO SO well sticking with it this long, gosh I only managed 4 weeks and I felt like an utterly useless mother for a while, BUT, when I saw how happy and thriving Caden was I knew Id made the right choice, heart breaking as it is. I had to sit and think, was I continuing with breastfeeding for my sake or Cadens and it was more for my sake because I really wanted to breastfeed, when Caden clearly wasnt happy with it(thats just my experience). A happy baby = a happy mummy. Once I made the choice, and I had Caden on formula for a week or so the change in him was amazing, he was happy and cooing and smiling and so was I. He gained 200g in 3 days! and he looked fatter and healthy as feeding him was lovely, he would feed and look right at me the whole time and he would play with my top or hold my hand, it was just as lovely as breastfeeding. So whatever choice you make, hun dont beat yourself up, its not your fault you have done nothing wrong, and you have given Jackon a GREAT start, he has had 3 months so far of your breastmilk and that would have done him the wordl of good. It is a hard choice to make, but I guess you have to way up the pro's and cons and do whats best for Jackon re his weight and all that. (Or, you could do what I was going to do and thats do half and half, for a little while Caden would have 3 breastfeeds a day the rest was formula.) ------------- |
Posted By: kebakat
Date Posted: 07 January 2009 at 5:26pm
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I tried and tried to BF for 3 months through constant battles and one night DH was going to give Daniel a bottle of EBM and he dropped it and spilt it and I got all upset and sent him out for formula because there was no EBM left and I was shocked at how well he took it. It was great. For a while I BF mostly with a supplemented bottle feed that I got DH to do.
Eventually I gave up BF because I got tired of never ending battles and saw that I had no probs with the bottle feed and I realised that my milk was causing my boys reflux and as soon as I stopped feeding that went away but anyway.. I thought I'd feel guilty as hell for not BF becuase I tried and gave up but I didn't. We were both happy for it and like you found. Bottle feeding has the upside of being able to look each other in the eye which is really nice. It's a lovely cuddle time. I hope you find something that makes you both happy
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Posted By: Shezamumof3
Date Posted: 07 January 2009 at 9:32pm
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I tried the supplent feeding with the tube and Caden hated it, he hates the little tube thing in his mouth because it has to go to the roof of their mouth and he would gag and cry and the bottle hangs between your boobs and we both hated it. But, if you feel you want to try it and see if Jackson will take it then go for it, it may just work for you guys.
The other thing I didnt like was it made feeding feel like a even bigger mission than it already was. You could try the stuff they give you to boost your supply though, that may help, or go for the natural option of the Naturo Pharm milkflow pills, I have heard good things about them. Oh annndd, there is newish pump called the Medela Swing, and what it does is, it will stimualte the flow to start with by 2 mins of fast pumping then it automaticly goes to let down mode. Now I hadnt breastfed for 3 months when I got this pump and I managed to express some colostrum! Its a fantatsic electric pump Im definitly using it for this bub!!! It might be the perfect pump for you, ive seen some on trade me other wise baby factory have them. This was the pump medela recommened to me for re-lacating cos its effective but gentle. Those double ones are horrid, i used one his hospital. ------------- |
Posted By: KiwiL
Date Posted: 07 January 2009 at 9:55pm
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Thanks again guys. It's good to hear that I am not alone and other people have faced this decision.
How did your babies cope switching to the bottle? My big worry is that Jackson still won't eat much on the bottle, and then I would have stopped breastfeeding for nothing. The supplementing with a tube is a disaster, I have enough problems holding Jackson and keeping his hands out of his face while feeding, without trying to hold a bottle and a tube at the same time! (Honestly, his hands are out of control!!!). So, going to continue trying to express some more. Still unsure about the Domperidone.... But, if I don't see an improvement quickly, then I am going to admit defeat and we are going to start a new journey together. |
Posted By: Shezamumof3
Date Posted: 08 January 2009 at 8:06am
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Laurie, Caden took to the bottle fantastic, I think he was SO glad to get a good feed that he guzzled it down. But like I said, what I did was breastfed morning lunch and night and formula the rest of the time, so that way he got used to the bottle but I was still keeping my milk supply up incase bottle feeding went out the window, but it ended up being the best thing I ever did.
The stress level lifted as soon as I saw how happy and content Caden was, and feeding was a joy rather than a constant battle. I is a hard switch to make, and i was sad for quite a while, even though I was happy that Caden was finally thriving and gaining decent weight, I missed breastfeeding, but in the long run, it just wasnt working for us and it was ruining our relationship as mother and son. I was starting to not like him, of course I loved him to bits, but I was getting angry with him and myself  ------------- |
Posted By: fire_engine
Date Posted: 08 January 2009 at 10:16am
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Laurie, you have done fantastically well to get so far with all the challenges. I agree with happy baby = happy mum. Remember, adding in a FF isn't an all or nothing exercise - you can start with one a day to get Jackson used to it, while continuing to BF. That way if there are issues switching, it's not the huge problem it could be. Domperidone can be effective. I guess the question I would have is is doing all these things to continue BF (and solely BF) making you more stressed and Jackson more stressed? If so, that's when I would look at adding a bottle in.
I had to add a FF in at night when Daniel was 3 months, and for many weeks I got really upset that I couldn't do the thing that nature had intended me to do, but once I saw how his weight improved and his sleeping improved, I haven't looked back. It's also been great for DH to do the last feed before bed and the dreamfeed. He loves it. It's also meant that if Daniel is really struggling on the boob - if his reflux is playing up - I don't stress - just take him off and give him the bottle earlier - I really feel like the pressure has been taken off. That's just my experience, but I'm happy with how it's gone. ------------- Mum to two wee boys |
Posted By: Shezamumof3
Date Posted: 08 January 2009 at 11:10am
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Oh I love that DF can make up and bottle and feed Caden lol, and when we first started bottle feeding, I found it lovely to be able to lie in bed and get DF to get up and do a feed in the morning instead of me!
I hated the night feeds while breastfeeding in winter, stinging cold sore nipples  ------------- |
Posted By: weegee
Date Posted: 08 January 2009 at 11:59am
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I just wanted to pop back in and say, possibly the reason feeding went so well between Christmas and New Year was because you were more relaxed with DH around etc, resulting in faster letdown etc...? In which case some more relaxation type exercises/deep breathing/visualisation etc might help...? -------------
Mum to JJ, 4 July 2008 & Addie, 28 July 2010 |
Posted By: kebakat
Date Posted: 08 January 2009 at 12:07pm
| We started out with just one feed a day that I got DH to do on the bottle and he was totally fine. It was also really nice just to get that break and give DH a chance to feed him without worrying about tipping precious EBM down the sink if he didn't drink it all. |
Posted By: denny25
Date Posted: 08 January 2009 at 6:01pm
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**HUGE HUGS!**
Your story sounds SO familiar. I had exactly the same thing with Ava and i did EVERYTHING i could but nothing worked. I felt the same way, and her play was suffering and our bonding was suffering. She wasnt gaining weight (also in the 3rd percentile line). It was a disaster. I was an emotional wreck. You have breastfed for 3 months - that is fantastic and Jackson would have all of the benefits from that. I went through weeks of guilt after putting Ava on the bottle, but it was the best thing for both of us. Just do it gradually (i increased it by 1 feeding per day every 3 days) so his system gets used to it. YOU HAVE DONE A FANTASTIC JOB!!! I eventually went to the bottle with Ava
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Posted By: KiwiL
Date Posted: 09 January 2009 at 2:45pm
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Thanks Denise. I have seen your posts a number of times and thought how similar our situations are.
Ava has reflux and is on Losec, isn't she? How did she respond to formula? Did the weight improve? What formula did you start on? |
Posted By: denny25
Date Posted: 10 January 2009 at 10:18pm
| Hey, just sent you a PM. Forgot to say though that her weight is now in the 25th percentile and she is gaining about 300grms per week :) |
Posted By: KiwiL
Date Posted: 13 January 2009 at 10:22am
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Well. First day on the bottle was good. Drank 140ml per feed.
Second and third days were disasters. He would only take 50 - 70ml at a time, and wouldn't take any more or any more frequently. So basically halved his intake. His behaviour was like that at the breast. SO CONFUSED now! The Lactation Consultant said this is typical of a baby with bad reflux and has basically begged me to try to continue breastfeeding because, if I can't get more into him with bottles, formula will never help him gain weight as he needs to drink more. So, am going to see my GP today and get another opinion from him. Perhaps I will try the Domperidone. If my milk supply is increased, and milk is easier to get, perhaps he will increase his intake? I thought for one day that we might be ok. But his behaviour suggests otherwise. Food must just make him miserable, whatever way it comes out. He dipped under the 3rd percentile yesterday. 
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Posted By: fire_engine
Date Posted: 13 January 2009 at 10:35am
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How is his reflux being managed?
ETA: just looked at your Domperidone post. Has Jackson been seen by Paeds? If your LC is convinced it's reflux, then I would think that the issue is more with Jackson (and his sore wee tummy) than you and all the Domeperidone in the world isn't going to help the underlying issue - the reflux. Apologies if you've done this, but I would definitely push for a paeds referral to get his reflux checked and make sure there's nothing else going on that could be contributing to FTT. ------------- Mum to two wee boys |
Posted By: KiwiL
Date Posted: 13 January 2009 at 10:44am
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Omeprazole, via suspension (2.5ml at 2mg per ml, twice a day) at the moment.
I am wondering if we should go to granular, as it is supposed to be better. And perhaps he needs a higher dose? He is already on 10mg per day though and only weighs 5.6kg. His reflux doesn't seem to upset him at other times, so I am still not convinced it's the root of our feeding issues. It's so confusing and unknown. If I had straight answers it would be a lot easier. Edited to clarify doseage. |
Posted By: fire_engine
Date Posted: 13 January 2009 at 10:50am
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That's a reasonable dose, though according to Cryingoverspiltmilk, he can go higher.
Has he been to paeds? I really feel for you - it's such a hard time when they're not growing but not eating, and you just don't know what the heck is going on ------------- Mum to two wee boys |
Posted By: KiwiL
Date Posted: 13 January 2009 at 10:54am
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Yep, been seen by an oncall paed when he was on a 15 hr hunger strike.
He physically checks out fine so noone wants to do any more tests. I am not sure how I feel about that. I kind of wish his gut could be checked in some way, but I don't even know what the option are. I know if he ate more he'd grow. It's not like he has a healthy appetite but still slow to gain. What is stipping him from wanting to eat? That's the question I need an answer for! |
Posted By: fire_engine
Date Posted: 13 January 2009 at 11:01am
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I'd go for another referral back to paeds for a clinic appointment where you can go through it all again. ------------- Mum to two wee boys |
Posted By: weegee
Date Posted: 13 January 2009 at 12:31pm
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I was just on the Crying Over Spilt Milk website for another reason, and noticed this snippet:
"Babies refusing to breastfeed due to reflux pain may temporarily feed from a bottle, but will eventually also refuse the bottle once they realise that bottle-feeds also lead to the same pain." So sounds like Fliss may be onto something...? -------------
Mum to JJ, 4 July 2008 & Addie, 28 July 2010 |
Posted By: KiwiL
Date Posted: 13 January 2009 at 12:43pm
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Thanks. Hoping GP will feel the same today. There must be some way to get to the bottom of this - it just doens't seem normal.
But I think everyone just thinks I am a neurtoic mother. Which, is possibly partly true!! 
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Posted By: KiwiL
Date Posted: 13 January 2009 at 1:30pm
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Fliss, I didn't notice your edited post until I read Weegees comment.
I am still learning about the reflux. Does reflux cause a sore tummy? Cos it is almost like Jackson eats vigorously and then something puts him off as he will abruptly stop. To me, that would be less about any burning in his throat (which the omeprazole should manage anyway), and more about some feeling of discomfort as the milk hits his tummy. |
Posted By: Maya
Date Posted: 13 January 2009 at 1:59pm
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It doesn't cause a sore tummy, but it causes pain in the throat and burning in the oesophagus (sp) so that can interrupt their feeding. Refluxers will often start the feed OK but then realise that they are in pain again and stop feeding.
I agree with Fliss, definitely get a referral to paeds and have him checked. It could be just that he is a small feeder, both gremlins were and ended up FTT but nothing we could do would make them take more, that was just normal for them. But it could also be something else underlying, Maya was also FTT but hers was related to allergies causing gastric bleeding. I think the bottle/breast decision should be more about what is going to be least stressful and most manageable for you.Tubes, expressing all hours of the day and night and taking meds to help supply must all be pretty stressful. And yes, breastmilk is better for baby, but you've given him nearly 4 months of breastmilk which is more than a lot of women are able to do. Plus, as Flissty said, it's not an all or nothing. What about if you stopped expressing and just breastfed and then topped him up with formula as and when required. In my experience with the gremlins, expressing can be completely soul destroying and all consuming. Big hugs and best of luck. We all know how hard you have tried and are trying and regardless of what you decide from here on out no one can ever say that you didn't do everything you possibly could in Jackson's best interests. -------------  Maya Grace (28/02/03)
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The Gremlins:Sienna Marie & Mercedes Kailah (14/10/06)
Lil miss:Chiara Louise Chloe (09/07/08)
Her ladyship:Rosalia Sophie Anais (18/06/12)
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Posted By: KiwiL
Date Posted: 13 January 2009 at 2:34pm
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I know you're right Emma. I think in my heart I know that if the BFing attempt still doesn't work, then I will formula feed. And I don't think there is anything wrong with that.
Except Jackson's ridiculously stubborn refusal to drink formula! I guess he will get there if hungry enough. The only concern I have with formula feeding is the need to get a greater volume into him than if he were drinking EBM. That's gonna be tricky. When did the Gremlins start to catch up? They look perfect to me! |
Posted By: KiwiL
Date Posted: 13 January 2009 at 6:49pm
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I have a referral to the paeds at Wellington Hospital. Which is good.
Doctor really feels that something is not right. Does anyone know what the wait is like through the Wellington Public system? |
Posted By: happymumma
Date Posted: 14 January 2009 at 6:37pm
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Kiwilaurie I just wanted to say hang in there. It's great that you have a referral - it does sound like a really good start. I'm not sure what the waitlist is I'm afraid but at least you are in the system now.
I also wanted to add my support re the whole BF vs FF issue. I switched to formula at two weeks because Ollie just wasn't having a bar of BF'ing despite working with a great LC etc. He suddenly became a happy, thriving little boy (and I was so much happier too!! I went from feeling like a complete failure as a mum to quite happy). In the end I firmly believe whatever you decide is the right decision. I see that you live in Wgtn too. If you ever feel the need to offload in person to someone I'm in Wgtn. Just PM me and we can meet up somewhere if you need / want it. |
Posted By: Maya
Date Posted: 17 January 2009 at 12:31am
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If he's dipped below the 3rd centile I'd say they'll make it a high priority referral, but I'm not sure what the wait is like in Wellington. Lil miss had a non urgent referral for her heart check and we had to wait about six weeks I think.
The gremlins started to catch up with their weight when they were about 17-18mths but it's really only the last 2 months or so that they have been truly well with no ear infections, colds etc. so we're enjoying having two happy, healthy girls for once instead of two grizzly, sick ones. They eat like horses now too which helps! Tonight they ate a whole pizza between them and Maya followed by a scoop of ice cream and two whole peaches each  .
Don't worry about being a neurotic mother, I often feel that way but a doctor once said to me - better a paranoid mother with a well baby than a laid back one with a sick baby - and that stuck in my mind. It's so true. We really do know our babies best. ------------- Maya Grace (28/02/03)
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The Gremlins:Sienna Marie & Mercedes Kailah (14/10/06)
Lil miss:Chiara Louise Chloe (09/07/08)
Her ladyship:Rosalia Sophie Anais (18/06/12)
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Posted By: KiwiL
Date Posted: 17 January 2009 at 8:55pm
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Thanks for the support Kate and the offer to meet up as well. :) Thanks also Emma for your comments.
I was going to go to the paeds on Friday but my GP, try as he might, couldn't get them to see me. They just said to double his losec and they would try to prioritise his appointment. I was pretty disappointed. However, a couple of hours later the paediatrician called me and said that she had been thinking that his symptoms sounded more than just normal reflux and wanted us to get the PH Probe done. So we are doing that on Tuesday. It feels AMAZING to finally have one test being done. I know that whatever the result there will be progress - either it will reveal the severity and we can up the dose, or it will show it's not so bad and they will have to start looking for something else. Unfortunately it means we are off all reflux meds till then. Eek!! I really want to go to formula now, but am going to wait till we get some results. Changing over is going to be really hard and without knowing what is going on, may be of no benefit. Too hard!!! |
Posted By: pomikiwi
Date Posted: 17 January 2009 at 9:55pm
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Good luck hun hope you get some anwers, must be so stressful for you and Jackson. Heart breaking too that he his in pain :-( ------------- http://lilypie.com">  
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Posted By: Maya
Date Posted: 17 January 2009 at 10:14pm
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Yay for progress, best of luck with the pH probe and over the next few days while you wait for the pH probe. I hope you get some answers. ------------- Maya Grace (28/02/03)
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Posted By: happymumma
Date Posted: 19 January 2009 at 2:37pm
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Posted By: Shezamumof3
Date Posted: 19 January 2009 at 2:40pm
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Good Luck for tomorrow Laurie, I hope you get some answers **hugs** for you and Jackson. ------------- |