| Dodgy Safe t Sleep
 
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 Topic: Dodgy Safe t Sleep
 Posted By: denny25
 Subject: Dodgy Safe t Sleep
 Date Posted: 11 January 2009 at 2:11pm
 
 
        
          | OK maybe i am doing something wrong, but every night when i put Ava into her safetsleep it creeps up right under her arms and up under her chin.  I put it on snuggly and even safety pin it to her wrap but it still creeps up. It worries me!!! She is wriggly but still...what am i doing wrong? I feel like the safe t sleep is a hinderance rather than a help with her sleep at the moment. |  
 
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 Posted By: lilfatty
 Date Posted: 11 January 2009 at 3:07pm
 
 
        
          | The instructions say to safety pin the safety sleep in place. 
 
 
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 Posted By: denny25
 Date Posted: 11 January 2009 at 3:13pm
 
 
        
          | Yep - i do 
 Quote " I put it on snuggly and even safety pin it to her wrap but it still creeps up"
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 Posted By: ElfsMum
 Date Posted: 11 January 2009 at 4:06pm
 
 
        
          | I will be back to answer this soon but we never ever safety pinned it and didnt have a problem? so you do it up under the arms and with her wrapped as well? 
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 Posted By: lilfatty
 Date Posted: 11 January 2009 at 4:19pm
 
 
        
          | Sorry must have skimmed read. 
 We dont pin Issy in either and have never had it ride up to her chin (although her arms would stop it going to her chin, unless she slept with both arms straight up)
 
 Its not flat though .. obviously it gets out of place as she moves (especially cause issy rolls over to sleep on her tummy) but never so much as for me to think it would be dangerous.
 
 So maybe your child is just really ickle??
 
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 Posted By: ElfsMum
 Date Posted: 11 January 2009 at 4:59pm
 
 
        
          | what does ickle mean? 
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 Posted By: denny25
 Date Posted: 11 January 2009 at 5:23pm
 
 
        
          | foxxy - yep we currently are wrapping with one arm out and one arm straight by her sides, as we are weaning her off the wrap. Then putting the safetsleep on over the wrap, under the arm that is out, and pinning the safetsleep to the wrap. |  
 Posted By: kathyandbub
 Date Posted: 11 January 2009 at 6:19pm
 
 
        
          | Thats what i was wondering to foxxy_one |  
 Posted By: SuperDaddy
 Date Posted: 11 January 2009 at 6:58pm
 
 
        
          | ickle = teeny (tiny, small etc etc) 
 I think your problem is you only have it wrapped under one arm .. its the arms that are supposed to keep the wrap in place around the body
   
 (I was trying to work out how it would get to her neck)
   
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 Posted By: pikelets
 Date Posted: 11 January 2009 at 7:19pm
 
 
        
          | That sounds odd.  DS has always slept with his arms out so have never had a problem.  I have never safety pinned it either.  Is Ava quite wriggly?   Could you try to safety pin the wrap/safety sleep to the sheet some how?? 
 
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 Posted By: ElfsMum
 Date Posted: 11 January 2009 at 7:27pm
 
 
        
          | I'm just trying to find a pic of E in his safety sleep... 
 so you only have safety sleep under one arm...yeah i agree with lilfatty...if you safety pinned wouldnt it be safety sleep to the sheet?
 when he was little we safety sleeped like this and wrapped
 
   then he had arms out like this(he sleeps in normal sleeping bag now ) though it did take about four goes to sleep without wrap and then later on without safety sleep!
 
  
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 Posted By: denny25
 Date Posted: 11 January 2009 at 7:57pm
 
 
        
          | Foxxy - in pic 1) are his arms by his side or up across his chest? 
 In pic 2) what is over his arms/hands? Is that a pekemoe?
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 Posted By: lilfatty
 Date Posted: 11 January 2009 at 8:40pm
 
 
        
          | Oooo I know the answer to q2  Thats a pekemoe   
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 Posted By: denny25
 Date Posted: 11 January 2009 at 8:44pm
 
 
        
          | pekemoe vs sleep sack? what are the advantages? (obviously hands are covered etc). Also, with the pekemoe, if the baby (when it is old enough) decides to stand in the cot, will they have less control over their hands and therefore are they more likely to have an accident if they stand up? |  
 Posted By: lilfatty
 Date Posted: 11 January 2009 at 9:43pm
 
 
        
          | I think they are designed as a transition between wrapping and a sleeping bag. 
 It would be pretty hard for the bub to get out of a safety sleep in a pekemo though as they wouldnt be able to undo it?  So im unsure how they would stand up in one (unless you were thinking of no safety sleep?)
 
 We went straight to a sleeping bag, but would wrap her over the top with a merino wrap or a muslin cloth.
 
 We didnt put her into a safety sleep until she was unwrapped.
 
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 Posted By: denny25
 Date Posted: 11 January 2009 at 9:49pm
 
 
        
          | Yep i was thinking of no safetsleep with the pekemoe because eventually i dont want to use the safetsleep. |  
 Posted By: BessieBear
 Date Posted: 12 January 2009 at 12:32pm
 
 
        
          | dont have issues with riding up but do with him rolling over a getting stuck in the middle of the night. he's not wrapped so arms abocve the STS and then he'll roll over onto his tummy and cant get back.  
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 Posted By: Shezamumof3
 Date Posted: 12 January 2009 at 4:20pm
 
 
        
          | Hmmm we didnt have an issues with hours riding up at all....and I never saftey pinned it. Um when he was swaddled I would have him arms by his side and wrap the Safe T Sleep over him. 
 This is how Caden was in his when we stopped swaddling
 
 
  
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 Posted By: ElfsMum
 Date Posted: 12 January 2009 at 4:39pm
 
 
        
          | yes it is a pekemoe but it didnt work for us.. we got a sleeping bag without arms .. (the next size up pekemoe without arms would have worked but we were poor) :) yes we always wrapped with hands down by sides.. 
 i wanted something to cover his hands as i was paranoid that he would cover mouth and not be able to breathe but he was fine in his new one:)
 
 we always had safety sleep and wrap..then just safety sleep then neither.. (which took a while!!) he started to be able to undo the safety sleep(and get all twisted in it)!! we just once he could stand put the cot mattress down ...and once they could stand they would be in the pekemoe without arms.. I would recommend getting rid of safety sleep before they stand up as it was soooo hard with E once he could..
 
 sheza yeah thats same as E... so Denny yours doesnt look like that?
 
 edited cause i meant to say cot mattress down!!!
 
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 Posted By: Shezamumof3
 Date Posted: 12 January 2009 at 4:45pm
 
 
        
          | We dont use our safe t sleep anymore, he kept somehow getitng onto his tummy and getitng stuck  plus I rekon its too hot now. 
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 Posted By: ElfsMum
 Date Posted: 12 January 2009 at 4:53pm
 
 
        
          | we tried to get him to sleep without it Sheza but he just stood and cried:( took four goes but now gone *phew*! 
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 Posted By: MissCandice
 Date Posted: 12 January 2009 at 7:12pm
 
 
        
          | Urg Kylah still uses hers, she wont sleep without it. All she will do is stand up and cry for like an hour! 
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 Posted By: pekemoemum
 Date Posted: 12 January 2009 at 7:43pm
 
 
        
          | Hi Denny, some babies transition to a 'normal' sleep sack easily, those that don't, the Peke Moe can be very useful for, it reduces a little bit of the hand movement (you can tuck the foot end of the Peke Moe into the foot end of the cot to start with to reduce some of the hand movement.) Keeping hands covered can help babies as they can't scratch their faces. Many babies just seem to 'love' the cosiness of being inside the Peke Moe. The Peke Moe is fine for baby to use whne moving around/standing in cot. My boy wore his till about 15/16months, and he was getting too long for it, i just unzipped the bottom and he still slept great in it.. just meant he was covered all night.
 All babies are different , it's sort of trial and error to see what works best. Keep us posted :)
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 |  denny25 wrote: 
 pekemoe vs sleep sack? what are the advantages? (obviously hands are covered etc). Also, with the pekemoe, if the baby (when it is old enough) decides to stand in the cot, will they have less control over their hands and therefore are they more likely to have an accident if they stand up?
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 Posted By: ElfsMum
 Date Posted: 12 January 2009 at 8:33pm
 
 
        
          | Kandice- yeah same for us..took four goes and for some reason they last time he was fine...dunno why... maybe cause he was so uncomfy in it in the end? 
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