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Topic: Milk feeds at 1 year old
Posted By: arohanui
Subject: Milk feeds at 1 year old
Date Posted: 14 January 2009 at 2:02pm
I just got back from visiting Mrs Plunket, and she said that at 1 year old, babies should only be having about 400mls of formula a day, in 2 milk feeds. Including whatever is on weetbix etc for breakfast.

How much did your baby drink at one year old, and at what times?

I'm confused about when to do it, cos when I asked her about times, she said morning and afternoon tea, plus maybe before bed. At the moment he has one first thing (just cos that's easier and nicer to have snuggles in bed IYKWIM and gives me time to wake up), has another at about 3/4pm depending what time he wakes up, and then another before bed at 7pm. He drinks about 200mls in the morning (actually I make up 250 and whatever he doesn't drink he has on weetbix), and maybe about 150 in the afternoon and about 100 before bed... I dunno, it varies. So I know I probably need to cut down, but I think if I only gave it twice a day he wouldn't drink 200 each time ya know? He still eats a decent-ish breakfast (an hour after his bottle), but I've noticed he hasn't been eating as much as he used to.... so wondering if I should swap and having breakfast first and then milk before or after his morning sleep.

Oh also, did anyone move their baby completely onto cows milk at 1 yr? I'm going to start doing half half I think but there's still a part of me (probably the part that's bought into advertising and consumerism) questioning whether he still needs the other 'stuff' that's in formula IYKWIM.

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Posted By: kebakat
Date Posted: 14 January 2009 at 2:39pm
We still give formula for his milk feeds because its conveniant and cheaper for us but put normal cows milk on cereal etc.

We were down to 2 feeds I think at about a year. One around breakfast time and one before bed with just water given during the day and at lunch


Posted By: arohanui
Date Posted: 14 January 2009 at 2:47pm
Thanks Stacey - can you remember how much he was drinking at each feed? And was the morning one before or after breakfast?

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Posted By: kebakat
Date Posted: 14 January 2009 at 2:51pm
We do it after, always have since about 8 months old. We haven't really changed the amounts. 180 for breakfast and 240 for bed time. The only reason its these amounts is that we use S26 and its one scoop per 60ml so it makes it easy for us.


Posted By: Nic01
Date Posted: 14 January 2009 at 3:03pm
Hi Liz! Wow - can't believe Harry is 1 already. I hear he's a real cutie too.

By 1, Matt was down to 2 milk feeds a day of 200ml each - 1 at 7am when he woke up followed by breakfast at 8 & 1 just before bed time. He still has his morning milk drink now. We use toddler milk (possibly sucked in by all the hype!! plus he's a bit of a fussy eater, so not sure if he's getting everything he needs from his diet). When he was little, if I didn't use the toddler milk, I bought that junior milk (I think that's what it's called) with extra calcium etc in it.

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Posted By: arohanui
Date Posted: 14 January 2009 at 3:29pm
Hi Nicki! I know I can't believe he's turning 1 tomorrow... this year has gone way too fast. Not long now til Isabella's 1st birthday too! I saw photos of her at Aunty Win's (when she was alot younger) and she's beautiful.

Yeah I think what I'll do is just cut out that afternoon milk, and just give him a bottle morning and night. He probably won't drink 200mls each time, but the milk on his weetbix should make up for it. Oh and I can give him yoghurt as well, forgot about that. I'm still undecided about whether to swap the breakfast one around or not so I think I'll just see how it goes.

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Posted By: BugTeeny
Date Posted: 14 January 2009 at 4:13pm
Hey Liz, you've probably already picked this up from Jan/Feb thread, but...

Hannah has three milk feeds a day.
One is a breastfeed - at 8am, after a brekkie of toast/weetbix (with cow's milk) and fruit of some kind.

The second is about 200mls of cow's milk.
And the third is anywhere between 150mls and 220mls of cow's milk.

I've only just stopped my nightly BF as she was quite difficult to feed and would get next to nothing from me.
I started offering her a BF then topping her up with cow's milk, but since stopped the BF and upped her cow's milk intake to compensate.

However, since cutting out the nightly BF she's been waking an hour earlier in the morning, starving.
So I'm thinking of giving her formula as her last nightly feed and seeing how she goes.


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Posted By: peachy
Date Posted: 14 January 2009 at 4:28pm
We are still on 3 bottles with Lauren, morning, afternoon one just before her nap and then bedtime. Morning and afternoon are 160mls and bedtime is 240mls.

I am not about to drop any of her bottles until winter as I think she needs the extra hydration and the arvo bottle relaxes her for nap time!

She has been on cows milk since the day of her frist birthday! Now she won't drink formula at all!!

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Posted By: lottieandharry
Date Posted: 14 January 2009 at 4:39pm
Hey Liz,

Haven't had a good read of what everyone else wrote but about a week ago I cut Harry down to 2 bottles a day of 200ml each.

He has his weetbix, cows milk and banana for brekky, then his bottle 30min after. Then his other one is just before bed of 200ml.

We are still on formula at this stage but will try cows milk soon. Just started giving him cows milk in his breakfast and he seems fine with that so we will change soon.

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Posted By: emz
Date Posted: 14 January 2009 at 4:55pm
I've been very pedantic about cutting down Jack's feeds as I was told they should only be having 2 lots of 'dairy' a day at 1 year so...

Jack only has 1 bottle (before bed - 200ml), sometimes 2 if he's at daycare.

He has about 100-150ml on his cereal if he has cereal that day, and a piece of cheese or a yoghurt at lunch. So that's 3 lots of dairy really, but 2 are smaller.

I would say definitely swap the milk/breakfast thing around, he'll get rid of that feed if he has brekkie first. I was always told to cut daytime feeds, then morning, then night if that helps.

And yep we are on straight cows milk, as long as they have a full and varied diet, the 'extra' nutrients are a crock. But check to see which is cheaper - if he still has a lot of formula then it'll probably be cheaper for you to stay on that. For us its cheaper on proper milk (and a lot easier).


Posted By: yummymummy
Date Posted: 14 January 2009 at 5:15pm
Gina has been and still is on 3 bottles a day, one in the morning, one after her afternoon sleep and one before bedtime. Sometimes, she'll refuse to have one of them but most of the time she'll be asking to have her bottles. She has about 200ml in each
I'm not too worried about what Plunket say

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Posted By: freckle
Date Posted: 14 January 2009 at 7:15pm
two bottles!! man Holly is a milkiholic - she just wouldn't cope with only 2 - she still has 3 and some days 4 bottles of 180-200 mls... My plunket nurse was so hopeless I gave up going - maybe I shouldn't have and I would have known she's only suppose to have 2!!
Emz - I agree re: price we changed holly to cows milk and realised formula would have been cheaper with the amount she drinks... but I'm loving how easy cows milk is!

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Posted By: Neeks
Date Posted: 14 January 2009 at 8:04pm
Keziah has between 2 and 3 200ml bottles a day....

One with her morning tea at 10am just before her nap (I find it helps to settle her down enough so she'll fall asleep once I put her in her bed), sometimes she has a nap in the afternoon but not often cause she's dropping one and i want it to be that one so we can get out and do somethings in the afternoons so again I use it as that calming agent, and then before bed





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Posted By: busymum
Date Posted: 14 January 2009 at 8:35pm
At 1yr my girls didn't have milk feeds any more, certainly DD1 was not interested but it just kinda happened for the others. They would have milk on their cereal for breakfast and usually a piece or two of cheese with cracker(s) for morning tea. They would also have a milo with breakfast (half milk)

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Posted By: kakapo
Date Posted: 14 January 2009 at 9:15pm

The "Ask the Experts" section had a link to an http://www.cadencehealth.com.au/KidsE-FactSheet32%20-%20Weaning%20from%20what%20to%20where%20-%20HUGGIES.pdf - article on how much calcium a one year old needs in their diet - it's an interesting read that helped to answer all the questions I had when DS turned one.



Posted By: kabe
Date Posted: 14 January 2009 at 10:11pm
Miss E still has 3 bottles of formula a day. She's on neocate, due to dairy allergies so gets most of her calcium through her formula.

We`always do bottles after food though, as it means she eats more.

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Posted By: McPloppy
Date Posted: 14 January 2009 at 10:45pm
Lachie had two a day at 1. first 200ml before his late morning nap and the second before bed time in the evening. I think if he had two naps during the day i would have spread the milk out to give him three bottles as it was part of his bed routine and relaxed him.

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Posted By: My3Sons
Date Posted: 15 January 2009 at 8:42am

400mls?  really I have always continued with formula for a few months past 1 year, Drew still has 4 bottles a day, he loves his milk! I dont see the need to cut it down just because they are turning one? If they are eating plenty of food and growing well that is! I dont believe plunkets one size fits all approach is always right, just go with what you think Liz, sounds like he is eating pretty well!  Oh and Drews are first thing in morning, last thing at night and a couple in between!



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Posted By: Danash
Date Posted: 15 January 2009 at 12:51pm

I am just trying Daniel on cows milk today, but with S26 stage 3 in the afternoon.

Daniel has been having breakfast first just this week, he has 2 weetbix (with cows milk has been since he was 8 months) and then his milk about 1/2 hour after - this morning he only had 180ml of milk (normally I would make 240ml of formula and he would leave some)  I will give him 180ml again this afternoon if he wants it and then tonight the S26 stage 3 before bed.

Nice to see this thread I was a bit up in the air as to wither what I was doing was okay!!!



Posted By: Salifer
Date Posted: 16 January 2009 at 9:37am
I wouldn't worry too much about plunkets recommendations.....after all the are just RECOMMENDATIONS!!! And every baby is different.

My pluket said 500-600ml a day which would be a whole EXTRA feed of milk if you were following her advice.

So just take it with a grain of salt and not worry too much.

My daughter is still having 3-4 milk feeds a day (cows milk)....usually 3 but if she wakes in the night I give her a 4th. Usually 120-150ml each time (although I'm sure she'd have more given the chance!!!) and around 270ml at bedtime!!

The other tip Plunket gave me on Wed was you can always WATER DOWN the cows milk......good to give baby some extra water in this hot weather.

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Posted By: arohanui
Date Posted: 16 January 2009 at 10:10am
Thanks guys. Well I pretty much cut out the afternoon bottle with no hassle and he did eat lots more at dinner time. I did offer him 100mls of formula in a sippy cup in the afternoon cos he was grumpy, and he drank 50mls of that and was much happier afterwards. I'll continue to do that I think.

This morning I thought I'd try doing breakfast first, and he ate a bit more than he usually did. But I just put him down for his morning sleep, offered him a bottle and he was definitely not interested. I'll try when he wakes up but then it will be close to lunch time so he probably won't eat as much lunch if he has the bottle! So I think I will stick to bottle first, then breakfast an hour later. He often doesn't finish his bottles (last night he drank 100mls before bed) and the morning one is the only one he has heaps so I don't wanna cut that one out.

He drinks quite alot of water during the day so I'm happy with that...

I hear ya on Plunket only being 'recommendations'... it's sure hard not to feel guilty as a parent though huh. I just got the vibe when I was there the other day that she thought I was incompetent cos she kept telling me stuff to do... but I already do all of it except the 2 bottles thing! I wish they'd just ask straight out rather than asking vague questions and then telling me specific things that I'm already doing. Does she really think I wouldn't know about protecting my pale red-headed baby from the sun? I mean I know there is some incompetent mothers out there, and maybe it's cos it was a new lady and she doesn't know me and I'm young? I don't know, but it was sure a weird vibe I got! I guess I just find it kind of patronising. I know they're just doing their job and they are useful for alot of things, and I definitely wouldn't get rid of their service, I think it's awesome we have something like that in NZ. It just seems that sometimes there would be a better way of saying things.

Eeek sorry for the rant, a bit off topic there. Thanks so much for all your help ladies - it's so helpful to hear what other bubbas are doing at the same age and makes me feel less like a bad mum cos I'm not following exactly what Aunty Plunket says

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