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Topic: Moving to New Zealand!
Posted By: Spring Sun
Subject: Moving to New Zealand!
Date Posted: 16 January 2009 at 11:44am
I hope I am welcome here! My name is Stacey, I am 29 years old, have a 4 year old son and #2 is on the way (due in August).
I currently live in Boulder, Colorado, but we are moving to NZ in a few months so that my husband can do a phd program.
Our choices for cities are
Auckland
Waikato
Christchruch
I am leaning towards Auckland, just because I think it may be easier to find mom's group and a community there. We love Boulder. It is very liberal and laid back. There is a lot to do outside and it is just beautiful here.
Does anyone have any recommendations on which of these cities might be best? Do you live in any of them? What do you love or not like about them?
I will be running my own business via the internet but it will be making a US income, so that is a plus. I am also a family photographer and yoga teacher so I want to be able to do those two things as well.
I am just trying to soak up all the info now, so if you have any links to other forums, yahoo groups, or any other kind of info I would greatly appreciate it.
Thanks so much and I am looking forward to getting to know you all! Here is a pic of us in case you are interested, I couldn't figure out how to make my avatar:)
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Posted By: caliandjack
Date Posted: 16 January 2009 at 11:48am
Of all those choices, I'd actually choose Christchurch. I'm an ex- Aucklander and don't think much of Hamilton.
Christchurch is a beautiful City, loads of parks and handy to the beaches, everything is easily accessible, and close to the mountains and ski fields. I'd imagine Colorado has them.
Auckland - cons - traffic, traffic and traffic. Friends wont travel from the north shore to south akl cause its too far!
Hamilton - cons - boring! Studenty city, farmers - need I say more.
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Posted By: lilfatty
Date Posted: 16 January 2009 at 11:49am
Well im biased .. so I would say Auckland
Christchurch might be better if you are into the "outdoors" though (but its cold down there).
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Posted By: kebakat
Date Posted: 16 January 2009 at 11:59am
lol about the cold chch comment, it's cold in winter but I'd say with the heat waves they get it's hardly cold all year round
I'd choose chch out of those choices too.
Come join us in the Due in Aug 09 thread!
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Posted By: IVFGirl1111
Date Posted: 16 January 2009 at 12:08pm
OMG last week it was 36 here in Christchurch and today its suppose to get to 32!
In saying that though it does get cold her in winter - not as cold as further down south though!
I Christchurch, a good friend came down from Auckland recently and said that she loved Christchurch said how clean it was, friendly and how there wasnt any tagging - which I couldnt believe she said at first because I use to think Christchurch had HEAPS of tagging!
The thing I love about Christchurch is everything is so close and while we think we have traffic - we really dont have a thing to complain about!
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Posted By: lilfatty
Date Posted: 16 January 2009 at 12:31pm
I will admit .. CHCH is pretty .. but I could never see myself living there.
But then again .. Im a born and bred JAFA .. I dont think I could live anywhere else but here (or maybe Paris .. now that was pretty!)
Having an internet based business means you can pretty much live anywhere and be OK
I would think you would find the Waikato a tad "slow"
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Posted By: Hopes
Date Posted: 16 January 2009 at 12:31pm
Hi! Welcome (in advance!) to the country I'm sure you'll love it here.
I'd venture to say that the most important thing to consider when it comes to your choice of city will be the University your husband is studying at? Or will his PhD not involve regular in-person contact with his supervisors? In any case, all three of these cities have good Universities, all of which have distinct areas they are particularly excellent in. I work in tertiary education, so if there's any questions you have about the NZ system, PM me - if I can't help, I have lots of people I can ask
If your DH's research doesn't influence where you choose my picks would be as follows:
Hamilton - well, I do live here myself! But it's a lovely (small) city, with everything you need, but without many of the negative aspects of cities - traffic etc. We're not really a student town (Fleur!), but I will admit we're in the middle of a fairly substantial rural area. I love that - grew up on a farm, like being able to get outside and explore, am fairly down-to-earth, Hams suits that.
Christchurch - this would be my first pick out of the rest of the country, if I had to live somewhere other than Hamilton. It's a very beautiful city, with lots to do, and a real character.
Auckland - I'm afraid I wouldn't rush to live in Auckland, but that's mostly because of me rather than the city (IYKWIM). It's just a bit too busy for me. At the same time, I love visiting to shop, and I've got friends there who love it.
My DH is going to be a PhD student this year too. I hope you continue to visit these boards once you're settled here - I can have someone to commiserate with!
Oh, and I'm now holding a grudge against you, mrsg1. I am reluctant to speak to you ever again. You have bad-mouthed my city. You will pay. (Don't worry, I'm kidding, I like you too much to hold it against you).
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Posted By: clover
Date Posted: 16 January 2009 at 12:33pm
I'm from Wellington but my parents lived in the Waikato for 8 years, of those choices personally I'd choose Christchurch. Auckland is the biggest city in NZ (although teeny tiny compared to US standards) so if you are after somewhere large with lots of people choose there. If you are wanting a smaller more community focused place with beautiful scenery go for Christchurch.
P.s. I think you'll find almost everyone will discount the Waikato....
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Posted By: lisa85
Date Posted: 16 January 2009 at 12:41pm
I'm a Christchurch girl born and raised (Sorry I might be a bit biased).
It's a very laid back lifestyle here. Its a big beautiful green city with an awesome nightlife and great if your into a lot of outdoor adventure. Christchurch is great because its big enough that you never get bored but small enough that everything is 20mins drive max and theres always a carpark in town.
My partner is from New Plymouth in the north Island but has been living here for 6 years. Mostly he loves to take road trips around the South Island on weekends in the summer. The south Island is great for vacation spots.
I wouldn't imagine you'd have any problems finding Mothers groups here. My sister lives in Auckland with her twin boys and finds the biggest problem is getting anywhere due to traffic and distance she had problems finding groups near her.
If you do end up coming here theres alot of women on ohbaby that live in CHCH that I'm sure would be willing to help you find your bearings myself included
Best of luck with your move!
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Posted By: EmDee
Date Posted: 16 January 2009 at 12:46pm
summerlamb wrote:
P.s. I think you'll find almost everyone will discount the Waikato.... |
Except perhaps those who live here
Personally I'm with Hopes and I love Hamilton (I have lived in the Waikato almost all of my life, so can't really comment on the other cities as places to live)
I guess the following could be pro's or con's depending on your POV
* Its a smaller sized city (easy to get around, and not too many people)
* Its not very far to some great beaches, mountains, Auckland
* Its less likely to suffer from any natural disasters! lol
* The countyside around Hamilton is beautiful
* The shopping is getting better (though still a far cry from what you'll find in Auckland)
ummm can't think of anything else at present and I really better get back to work!
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Posted By: Hopes
Date Posted: 16 January 2009 at 12:47pm
The one con about Chch for me is that we like to be based in the North Island, which has a bigger population. It's easier to get to places like Auckland and Wellington - this works out for us with both our jobs/study and our spare time. But that might not make any difference to you at all.
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Posted By: lisa85
Date Posted: 16 January 2009 at 12:59pm
The battle is on! 3 citys go head to head in an epic battle to win 3 and a half Americans! Who will take home the prize?
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Posted By: IVFGirl1111
Date Posted: 16 January 2009 at 1:05pm
Hahahahahahahah Lisa - I seriously spat my drink out then when I read that!
Tears of laughter in my eyes!!!
Christchurch will!!!
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Posted By: caliandjack
Date Posted: 16 January 2009 at 1:06pm
Hopes wrote:
Oh, and I'm now holding a grudge against you, mrsg1. I am reluctant to speak to you ever again. You have bad-mouthed my city. You will pay. (Don't worry, I'm kidding, I like you too much to hold it against you). |
Ha ha! I specifically avoid Hamilton every time I go to Akl to visit my folks. Cambridge is better if you have to live in the Waikato.
I'm a Aucklander born and bred, and leaving to live elsewhere in NZ is the best thing I've ever done. There is so much more to NZ than what's north of the Bombays.
Wellington would be my fav city, with Chch a close second.
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Posted By: Glow
Date Posted: 16 January 2009 at 1:12pm
Hi there
Welcome
Im going to say Hamilton. Hamilton, Hamilton!
I dont live there myself, I live in a country town 40mins away but..
Hamilton is the 7th largest city, in the Waikato region of the Nth Island NZ, 80miles south of Auckland. It sits on a main Rd & railway in the Waikato basin (NZs richest & most furtile soil) on the banks of the Waikato River
The Entertainment is quite good due to the large student population. Lonely planet 08 stated "the city's main street has sprouted a sophisticated and vibrant stretch of bars and eateries that on the weekend at least leave Auckland's Viaduct Harbour for dead in the boozy fun stakes." Hamilton also has the second largest selection of cafes- second only to ponsonby RD Auckland.
Outdoors & sports- you are spolit for chioce as you are centrally located to beaches, mountains, caves, lakes, rivers etc.
Hamiltons nickname used to be " Cowtown" LOL due to it being a rural service centre
A more common nickname Hamilton- City of the future
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Posted By: EmDee
Date Posted: 16 January 2009 at 1:16pm
Or my favourite - Hamil-Tron
Lol at Lisa
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Posted By: lisa85
Date Posted: 16 January 2009 at 1:27pm
Right thats it I'm starting a petition of sorts lets take a vote put your name next to the city you think is best. Booboo I putting you next to CHCH cause I know your with me on this one
CHRISTCHURCH -
Lisa85
Booboo
DORKLAND -
HAMILTRON -
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Posted By: clover
Date Posted: 16 January 2009 at 1:56pm
Gosh, maybe my "most people will discount the waikato" comment isn't ringing true!
I actually quite like Hamilton, my parents lived there for a number of years - I just wouldn't live there myself!
Why don't you come to Wellington? Beautiful city (if a little breazy)
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Posted By: clover
Date Posted: 16 January 2009 at 1:56pm
Oh and I fully get that Wellington isn't an option - just creating some debate
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Posted By: caliandjack
Date Posted: 16 January 2009 at 1:59pm
I'll vote for Wellington, great coffee.
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Posted By: Judedude
Date Posted: 16 January 2009 at 2:02pm
I know Wellington isn't on the list, but it has recently been voted the best place in New Zealand to raise a family.......
If you are looking for a liberal city, Wellington is it!
edited for bad spelling!
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Posted By: Hopes
Date Posted: 16 January 2009 at 2:04pm
I did wonder why Wellington wasn't on the list myself. Lovely place.
Although I wouldn't live there for fear of being eaten by an earthquake
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Posted By: pomikiwi
Date Posted: 16 January 2009 at 2:05pm
Welcome to NZ and hope you enjoy your time here. I moved here from the UK over 5 years ago and I personally hate the city (love them for visiting but over them for living!) so i'll leave that question for other people to answer, hehe!
Good Luck and i'm sure you'll settle in fine.
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Posted By: lisa85
Date Posted: 16 January 2009 at 2:07pm
Yeah I have to admit if I didn't live in CHCH Wellington would be my next pic. The only thing I don't like about Wellys is the roads I find driving around Wellington quite dangerous. All the roads are so narrow and there seem to be so many idiot drivers.
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Posted By: Joscia
Date Posted: 16 January 2009 at 2:26pm
I vote AUCKLAND! It rules!
Best things about living in Auckland:
- You're virtually never more than a 1/2 hour drive from the beach - the West Coast beaches are magnificent! + great free swimming!
- It's a really diverse city - all the suburbs have their own unique 'character'
- The CBD is a good size - it's not TOO big (IMO) but big enough to get some of the benefits of living in / near an 'almost' international sized city - ie: the great bands when they come to play, shopping, restaurants etc
- Auckland University is fabulous. I did post-grad study there and it's (apparently) world class
- The harbour - Hauraki Gulf is jewel - it's great to be able to jump on a ferry and visit the islands for a day
-Being slightly bigger, I would argue that Auckland is probably more liberal than the smaller centres
Sure, the traffic can be pretty appalling at times, but you just need to take it into consideration when traveling. Don't try and go anywhere at peak times if you can avoid it! (Which you probably won't be since it sounds like you won't be doing the rush hour commute.)
You'd need to investigate the suburb you want to live in though - they really are quite different.
Have a look http://www.auckland-suburb-guide.co.nz/ - Here Or You can order a comprehensive book about the city - http://www.wheretoliveinauckland.co.nz/ - Here
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Posted By: Jay_R
Date Posted: 16 January 2009 at 2:59pm
I vote Auckland too (and quit calling it Dorkland )
Auckland has the best weather, its close to so many amazing beaches, islands, harbours. The shopping is awesome, the University is the best in the country and there are so many activities for families that are run free by the council.
Yay, go Auckland
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Posted By: Hopes
Date Posted: 16 January 2009 at 3:05pm
Joscia wrote:
- Auckland University is fabulous. I did post-grad study there and it's (apparently) world class
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Very true.
joshierocks wrote:
...the University is the best in the country |
Rather debatable
ETA that I'm not a huge fan of the name 'dorkland' either... because it's a nice place really.
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Posted By: my2angels
Date Posted: 16 January 2009 at 3:25pm
I might be biased but my vote is christchurch. I love it here and couldnt imagine raising my kids anywhere else. Everything is so easy to get to, from one side of town to the other is about 30 which makes us sound small but we arent that small, just well planned. Plus there is such a wide range of outdoor stuff to do here. If your into snowing we have heaps of ski fields around about an hours drive, there is hanmer springs for the hot pools etc only about 90 minutes drive not to mention the vineyards and beaches. It really is beautiful. If you want a big city type of life then its probably not the place for you and I would suggest Auckland but if you want family friendly, laid back then its your place and even though lots of concerts etc... happen in Auckland its only a short plane ride away. Oh and there are heaps of parenting type communities and events in chch so meeting new people wouldnt be an issue
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Posted By: Jay_R
Date Posted: 16 January 2009 at 3:26pm
I should say that my comment re Auckland University is the best in the country is going by a report that was published last year putting Auckland Uni in the top 10 in the world for various courses.
I went to Massey, and I thought it was fantastic
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Posted By: Spring Sun
Date Posted: 16 January 2009 at 4:04pm
Wow! Thanks everyone! I had no idea I would come home to find so many responses-esp since it is still 7:30am there!
I went to the bookstore and looked through everything and for some reason I though Wellington was on the list and I fell in love with it! Darn it! I was sitting next to a man who just happens to be moving to Christchurch next month. Small world!
Okay, so you are all great, and I have not declared yet who will win the 3 1/2 of us , but...I don't think Hamilton would work from me. I am from Chicago, and I went to a college outside of it that was just farmland and I was not happy.
When Elijah was 6 months old we moved to Atlanta, and I hated it. Too much pollution, you literally could not drive anywhere bc the traffic was so, soo bad, and I had trouble meeting other moms. But it has well over 5 million people. Chicago has about 10 million (what is wrong with us!). So I am guessing that Auckland would still be very different.
Thanks for the link to the Auckland suburbs! I am going to pour over that tonight. When I would looking at real estate there I had no idea what I was looking at.
Christchurch sounds great! I am going to do a bunch of research on it. Too bad I just wasted the night researching Wellington!
Boulder is really beautiful. http://images.google.com/images?q=boulder%20colorado&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi - Click here to see it.
Boulder has snowboarding nearby and so many outdoor things to do. There are a ton of young families here and always something to do with kids. And it is a college town so there is always a lot going on.
We will be visiting NZ in a couple months, and I am sure we will get a better feel for the towns then and hopefully fall in love with someplace.
I will keep looking. Any more info or opinions or advice is so appreciated!
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Posted By: Hopes
Date Posted: 16 January 2009 at 4:07pm
joshierocks wrote:
I should say that my comment re Auckland University is the best in the country is going by a report that was published last year putting Auckland Uni in the top 10 in the world for various courses.
I went to Massey, and I thought it was fantastic |
Yep, that sounds right. I'm assuming that report was based on the PBRF rankings, and there's no doubt that for some areas of study, Auckland is the place to go. For other areas of study, another University might be a better choice. So much depends on what you want to study... and even the angle you want to take on it!
I studied at Massey too, and loved it as well.
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Posted By: susieq
Date Posted: 16 January 2009 at 4:28pm
Posted By: lisa85
Date Posted: 16 January 2009 at 4:35pm
Sorry I take back the Dorkland thing didn't mean to offend anyone I love Auckland my sister lives there.... peace
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Posted By: Jay_R
Date Posted: 16 January 2009 at 4:37pm
lisa85 wrote:
Sorry I take back the Dorkland thing didn't mean to offend anyone I love Auckland my sister lives there.... peace  |
LOL
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Posted By: Shezamumof3
Date Posted: 16 January 2009 at 5:49pm
Im in Auckland, I like it. There are bad parts, but you get that anywhere you live.
I like Auckland because you have everything you need and plus all the cool bands and stuff come here Not so dorkish really
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Posted By: caliandjack
Date Posted: 16 January 2009 at 5:56pm
Had a look at your pics of Boulder, you'll love Chch with the alps in the distance, I expect its no colder than Chicago in winter.
Auckland weather is very humid can take a bit of getting used to.
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Posted By: Bubbaloo
Date Posted: 16 January 2009 at 7:14pm
I say Chch and Agree with everything My2angels said it's great cos so easy to get around and doesn't take long to get used to were everything not from here originally been he for about 7 years and have made the bestest friends yes winter time can be cold but if you check what our weather has been like recently it is nothing but cold.
And aukland weather is feely humid not nice at all. i grew up about an hour north so remeber it well if I was to move back up there though I would probably go North shore more than Auckland.
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Posted By: Lisha
Date Posted: 16 January 2009 at 7:27pm
I too am from Christchurch! and agree with the other Chch girls. Everything is soo close and handy. The ohbaby girls here are great, and meet up every now and then, whoever is free.
I have lived in many places, not orginally from the South Island, but I wouldn't choose anywhere else to live, it's amazing down here, maybe cold in the winter, but lovely, warm clear days in the summer. Temps up to 40.C ( was this last week)!!
All the best with your choice of city! And welcome in advance to NZ!!!
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Posted By: Emily281
Date Posted: 16 January 2009 at 7:32pm
Ok here's my 2 cents worth. I'll start by declaring that I'm an Aussie and have never been to Auckland or Hamilton. BUT .... I would say that based on your requirements Christchurch is probably the best fit (and I'm not biased because I live here either ).
I grew up in a small town in Tasmania and have also lived in Melbourne for awhile. I find that Christchurch is somewhere in the middle of small country town and big urban city and I love living here. It's big enough that you can always find what you're looking for - be it shopping, coffee shops, culture, sports or whatever, but its no so big that its full of people and takes you forever to get anywhere. We live on the west side of Christchurch but it still only takes us half an hour to get to the beach. Plus its within easy distance of the ski fields and Hamner springs as others have mentioned.
And just so you don't get corrupted by looking at those Auckland websites here are some for Christchurch:
http://www.christchurch.org.nz/ - http://www.christchurch.org.nz/
http://www.christchurchnz.com/canterbury/ - http://www.christchurchnz.com/canterbury/
oh and just to be thorough here is a link to the Universtiy of canterbury which also has some links and information about living in Christchurch (and is also where I'll be studying this year
http://www.canterbury.ac.nz/intstud/?s=home - University of Canterbury
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Posted By: MummyFreckle
Date Posted: 16 January 2009 at 7:34pm
I find it really interesting that everyone has commented about the traffic in Auckland. As a SAHM I am NEVER EVER affected by traffic, even though I travel to the North Shore (over the habour bridge) at least twice a week. I guess its one of the benefits of living in a central suburb (which has lots of character) we have a lot of route diversity.
I would argue that as a yoga teacher, you would have a much larger population base of potential clients in auckland, its pretty popular up here, as we are all a fairly liberal bunch - well especially around where I live!
I also think that there is an amazing outdoors lifestyle in auckland, especially around the water / habour / beach...but we also have the Waitakere Ranges for fantastic bush walks.
I guess its a tricky one - Auckland is a truly international city, with the benefits (and flaws) of one - the restaurants, the cultures, the festivals, the parents resources and groups, the business opportunities, the airport and travel links (direct international flights).....but then it is a big city.
Ultimatley it will be where you guys feel comfortable....
Welcome in advance - hopefully you will love NZ as much as we do (I am an import from the UK!!)
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Posted By: McPloppy
Date Posted: 16 January 2009 at 8:16pm
Oh Wow, Boulders looks beautiful!
Personaly i would choos Christchurch (and i did lol).
I lived in Auckland for three years ans found the humidity very difficult to live with and it rained a lot of the time and i found it difficult to get my nappies dry . Also i think I missed the hot dry nor west winds of Canterbury
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The good thing about Auckland though is that is is multi cultural and you are exposed to a variety of differnt exciting cultures also the people I new were very friendly but it took a long time for me to make friends as a stay at home mum...nothing could make me move back there.
I cannot comment on Hamilton as I have only been there a couple of times but it had the same sort of weather as Auckland so did not try to like it.
Also Canterbury/Christchurch Rugby teams hold the super 14 and NPC trophies...Lisa you look completely one eyed!!!!
Seriously though Living in Christchurch you are near the mountains, beach, hot springs, whale watching and the rugged beauty of the West coast.
Good luck with your decision
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Posted By: myfullhouse
Date Posted: 16 January 2009 at 9:09pm
I am a born and bred Aucklander and would not live anywhere else in the country. I don't find the traffic a problem at all, especially if you are sensible about when you travel or allow enough time. When I was at AUT and later when I worked in the city I would just catch the bus, it was great as I got to relax and read a book.
In my opinion Auckland has so much more to offer as so many have mentioned. It is also a more diverse culture, very multicultural which I think is important for Jack as he grows and learns to understand and respect different people. Each time we go and visit the ILs in Nelson I cannot get over how white it is - by that I mean everyone is a Kiwi/European, it is definately not multicultural and from some of my experiences it can get a bit racist. I would imagine that ChCh would be much the same. Hamilton is lovely and some of the surounding areas such as Cambridge are too but for me they are too slow. Auckland allows you to have the city at your doorstep but if you want you can live slightly quieter in the suburbs.
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Posted By: kabe
Date Posted: 16 January 2009 at 9:15pm
What an interesting discussion! Firstly, it's great that you've chosen to come to NZ and I'm sure you'll be happy wherever you end up living .
I can comment on Chch & Akld, as I was born in Chch & have spent most of my life living in Akld. Can't comment on the Waikato as never lived there.
Chch is beautiful. Hot in summer & cold in winter. It's very flat, has good public transport, not too crowded and close to plenty of ski-fields (if you like ski-ing!). There are also lots of nice bars, cafes and restaurants there.
On the -ve (and this is just my opinion), it's quite a conservative city and is not very multi-cultural.
Akld is a very busy, city with lots of beaches, parks, and malls! Auckland University has an excellent reputation (may be slightly bias as I work there ). There are loads of great cafes, restaurants and bars. It's quite a liberal city and is very multi-cultural. The climate is not as extreme as Chch, but it can get very humid in summer and can be quite wet in winter.
On the -ve, traffic can be a problem, but this can be largely avoided if you live where there's rail & a good bus service.
Good luck with your decision!!!
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Posted By: IVFGirl1111
Date Posted: 16 January 2009 at 9:22pm
Annnnnnnnnnd their off and racing to Christchurch!
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Posted By: pepsi
Date Posted: 16 January 2009 at 9:44pm
AUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCKLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAND!
And don't forget you can use Google streetview to check out neighbourhoods!
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Posted By: Natalie_G
Date Posted: 16 January 2009 at 9:54pm
I am a North Shore Aucklander, I wouldnt live in Auckland city but North Shore isnt too bad.
Better access to beaches and parks, traffic can be a problem especially when school starts (bearly any traffic when its school holidays).
DH loves Christchurch and my cousin lives there too. The choices for me would be either Christchurch or far up the North Island (but its harder to find jobs)
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Posted By: Bobbie
Date Posted: 16 January 2009 at 10:54pm
Welcome!
Apologies it's late and I haven't read through all the replies.
Christchurch has a to its city whereas Auckland is big and spread out. However within Auckland you may find the Suburbs of Westmere (central) or Titirangi (West) to your liking. Both have a really interesting alternative village feel and in Westmere there is the well known http://www.wellpark.co.nz/ - Wellpark Yoga School
I have found Christchurch isn't as ethnically diverse as Auckland which you may view as a good or bad thing.
Christchurch gets nice dry weather but extremes of temperature - Auckland doesn't get as hot or as cold but it rains more in winter (or at least feels like it - think Seattle lol!) and is muggy as heck in summer.
Christchurch is flat comparitive to Auckland which is basically all hills (Volcanos). However Chc gets Snow and Auckland doesn't - how much will you miss snow?
Personally I love Auckland but I was born and bred here. While I don't love Christchurch itself I do love the Southern hospitality and the beautiful South Island.
Some websites that may help you (sorry if you have some of these already):
http://www.aucklandcity.govt.nz/ - Auckland City Council Central Auckland
http://www.ccc.govt.nz/ - Christchurch City Council
http://www.northshorecity.govt.nz/ - North Shore City Council North Auckland
http://www.waitakere.govt.nz/ - Waitakere City Council West Auckland
http://www.ero.govt.nz/ero/publishing.nsf/Content/Home+Page - ERO Website Will help with assessing early childhood centres and primary schools for your son.
ETA: The traffic isn't a problem usually so long as you plan your day around it and you get used to it. Of course there will be more traffic in Auckland than in Christchurch because the population is so much larger and also due to the way that Auckland is spread out (most of it over an isthmus) which means you get unavoidable bottle necks.
Aucklanders do love their cars but on the bright side if you can drive here you can drive anywhere lol!
ETA again: Whoops sorry forgot
http://www.manukau.govt.nz/ - Manukau City Council South Auckland
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Posted By: WestiesGirl
Date Posted: 17 January 2009 at 12:23am
lol!!! Well being a Born and Bred CANTABRIAN I definitely vote Christchurch!!!
I agree with all the comments about Christchurch, there really isnt much more to add except for its a damn good place to live and raise children
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Posted By: Spring Sun
Date Posted: 17 January 2009 at 7:07am
Thanks for all the links!
Wow, this is hard to decide. I keep hearing something that will sway me to one city, and then I read something else that makes me think the other city will be better.
How cold is CHCH really? Chicago is bitter cold. So cold you don't even want to walk to your car. There we get a -70 degree F wind chills (sorry, don't know Celsius yet!). I looked up the weather in CHCH, and it looks like it doesn't really get that cold. You guys get frost sometimes, but never snow, right? If that is what is cold to you, bring it on!
But, is it really true that most houses don't have heat? It is hard to believe!
Also, in Atlanta it took 20 minutes to get some place that was a mile away. Since everything is relative, I wonder if the traffic in Auckland just seems bad to all of you, and maybe it is not as bad as it is in the US? Do most families there have 1 or 2 cars?
Also, if my husband and I (no little one) are coming to visit for just 2 weeks, then would we take a plane from Auckland to CHCH?
Ahh, I am so nervous about the whole thing! It is hard to not have any idea of where to live, especially when it is so far away!
But, I can not wait to start doing photography there! Boulder is great, but NZ is just breathtaking.
Could anyone give me a link on where to look for rentals so we can get an idea of a price? Craigslist is not very active there. Is there a website for housing swaps? Jobs? A good real estate website?
Thanks for all the help, I really appreciate all of you taking the time to help me out:)
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Posted By: Emily281
Date Posted: 17 January 2009 at 7:30am
HI
We do get snow in Chch - but we certianly don't get -50 (which bTW is -56 in celsius - theres a realy good converter http://www.wbuf.noaa.gov/tempfc.htm - Here )!! Most often if it snows (it doesn't every year) it's only for a day or two. http://www.emigratenz.org/christchurch-climate.html - Here is a link that tells you a little bit about Christchurch climate and shows average temperatures. BTW it says CHCH has similar temperatures to Boston.
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Posted By: Emily281
Date Posted: 17 January 2009 at 7:44am
Spring Sun wrote:
Thanks for all the links!
But, is it really true that most houses don't have heat? It is hard to believe!
No its not ture. We have a fire and a heat pump. Although the regional council is trying to get people to get rid of fires. I think what will be different for you is that most places don't have central heating.
Also, in Atlanta it took 20 minutes to get some place that was a mile away. Since everything is relative, I wonder if the traffic in Auckland just seems bad to all of you, and maybe it is not as bad as it is in the US? Do most families there have 1 or 2 cars?
I can't comment on Auckland traffic. as for how many cars I think it depends on your situation. We have 2 cars and most families I know have 2 cars, but I think it depends on your lifestyle and budget. If, for example your DH lived within walking distance of the university you might not need 2 cars.
Also, if my husband and I (no little one) are coming to visit for just 2 weeks, then would we take a plane from Auckland to CHCH?
Yes you can take a plane from Auckland to christchurch. Links to NZ airlines:
http://www.airnewzealand.co.nz/ - Air New Zealand
http://www.flypacificblue.com/ - Pacific Blue
http://www.quantas.co.nz - Qantas
But, I can not wait to start doing photography there! Boulder is great, but NZ is just breathtaking.
Probably just me being biased again but if you're into photography CHCH will be great for you. Anyone I know who has ever visited has said they much preferred the South Island over the North Island because mostly its more beautiful. We certainly do have some breathtaking scenery.
Could anyone give me a link on where to look for rentals so we can get an idea of a price?
http://www.realestate.co.nz/rental - Real Estate NZ
Is there a website for housing swaps?
I've never looked into house swaps so I don't have any personal experience but when I googled House Swap New Zealand it came up with a few sites so if no one has any suggestions that might be a good place to start
Jobs?
http://www.seek.co.nz - Seek
A good real estate website?
http://www.realestate.co.nz - Real Estate NZ
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Just answering the rest of the questions that I forgot
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Posted By: McPloppy
Date Posted: 17 January 2009 at 7:51am
There is a regulation now on all ne houses built that they must have double galzed windows and energy efficient heating so you will find eith a heatpump, log burner fireplace or gas fire place in the new houses....personaly I would go for one of those.
You can drive from Auckland to Christchurch and i think it would be nice to see the rest of NZ (like Hamilton) along the way...It will take two to thre days for a leisurly trip.
In winter we normaly have a frost on the ground every day for a bout two to three months and if we are lucky it might snow twice which will result in just a bit of ground cover....that is when it is nice to go to hamner and indulge in the thermal springs
You can hire cars at both Akl and CHCH airports.
http://www.christchurchairport.co.nz/TravellersAndServices/ParkingAndTransport/CarRentals/ - Car rentals
http://www.realestate.co.nz/ - real estate
Sorry i don'rt know much about home swap.
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Posted By: minik8e
Date Posted: 17 January 2009 at 7:53am
I have only ever lived in Taranaki and Hamilton...but have visited Auckland and Christchurch. I don't mind Auckland, but it's such a big city that it really isn't for me - fantastic range of shops, cafes, etc.
Hamilton - it does have a reputation as a student city, because of the Uni. I lived there for about 5 years all up, and I didn't mind it....but I didn't love it either. I lived both in town, and also rurally. As someone else has said, the shopping is getting better.
Christchurch - I love it. It's gorgeous, there's trees everywhere, the sky seems clearer and more vivid than it does in the North Island, you can go over to the Alps, Central Otago is gorgeous - to me, it's a more "established" city. Yep, it can be cold in Winter (but not as cold as what you've described!!) but can be very warm in summer!! You're close to mountains, sea, shops, everything.
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Posted By: Jennz
Date Posted: 17 January 2009 at 8:47am
I have lived in Auckland, Hamilton and Wellington and out of all of them I found Wellington the best Most laid back, easy to fit in and friendliest city of the 3 in my opinion.
People and lifestyle wise Wellington was my top, job opportunity and weather wise Auckland was best and I loved being a student in Hamilton but would never want to raise kids there.
If Wellington isn't an option then out of your 3 I would go Christchurch Just buy a heatpump/air conditioner and you'll be fine!
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Posted By: lisa85
Date Posted: 17 January 2009 at 8:59am
This probably has the most up date list of rental propertys. Gotta love trademe!
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Property/Default.aspx - Real estate
This would be the second most up to date site.
http://www.realestate.co.nz/ - Real estate 2
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Posted By: lisa85
Date Posted: 17 January 2009 at 9:00am
Oh and all most all propertys will have some kind of heating I always look for a place with a heat pump its a must with a newborn baby in winter. Most places these days have them
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Posted By: Glow
Date Posted: 17 January 2009 at 9:09am
Hey Spring Sun, still trying to sway you the Waikato way
Boulder looks stunning
Is it the lack of population that you dislike in the Waikato?
IMO bigger cities have very little community spirit, the smaller, the better. Its not till you reach the smaller towns that you will feel the true friendly Kiwi way
Hamilton has a popualtion of 190,000 odd. Over half of NZ popualtion is within a 80mile radius of Hamilton
You will find the Waikato has everything you need & more
More info here
http://www.visithamilton.co.nz - Tourism Waikato
& scenery photos here
http://www.new-zealand-pictures.co.nz/waikato-pictures-cat.htm - Waikato Pictures
Regardless of population, scenery in the Waikato is perfect for photography, throughout the region you will discover bush-clad mountains, stunning waterfalls, hot mineral pools, beaches and, of course, the magical limestone glowworm caves in Waitomo. If you travel off the beaten track you will find more memorable views and experiences. Charming small towns are dotted throughout the region, each one with its own specialities. (IE Otorohanga is the Kiwiana Capital of the world, Te Kuiti is Shearing Capital & of course you will find HOBBITON here in the Waikato)
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Posted By: jack_&_charli
Date Posted: 17 January 2009 at 9:25am
just read through everyone's replies and everything i was going to say has been covered.......
i especially agree with everything lisa has said........GO CHRISTCHURCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (the people are lovely )
yes it does get cold in winter, but not that bad. only rarely do the temps get in the -'s and if it does, it's not by much. we do have heating in houses...mostly. some don't and people use heaters like gas or oil. we got a heatpump last year and now i don't know what we ever did without it!! it's been VERY useful this last month with the HOT HOT weather we've been having!
auckland is really not my cup of tea. been there a few times and it's just too 'busy' for me.
another place i love is nelson...a very outdoor place, beautiful scenery all around and so much to do. i lived there for half my life and really miss it sometimes. it's very easy to get to for a summer holiday when you live in chch
yes auckland do get most of the cool concerts, but it's only a short plane ride from chch...........and at least we got bon jovi all to ourselves
yay for choosing nz to live!!!!!!!! it's a beautiful country and i certainly couldn't imagine ever wanting to live anywhere else
do let us know when you'll be coming over, we can all get together and have a coffee
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Posted By: jack_&_charli
Date Posted: 17 January 2009 at 9:38am
just checked out your link for boulder.........what a gorgeous place!!!!!!
you'd definately love the south island
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Posted By: Bobbie
Date Posted: 17 January 2009 at 10:11am
If you want to do landscape photography as well I would definitely go Christchurch. Auckland is great in its own way but can't compare to the South Island IMHO.
The houses here will shock you in terms of heating. Although heat pumps etc work well and the modern ones are built to a high standard, in the old villas especially heating really was an afterthought. This is much truer in Auckland than in Christchurch I would guess. But certainly throughout NZ you do not generally wear a light layer within the house and a cooler layer outside as you do in the much better heated homes in the U.S. This also applies in lots of shops and cafes.
If you'd like to check out Auckland traffic real time try here http://traffic.transit.govt.nz/Traffic.do?view=cctv - linky
Trade Me is great for houses and for everything you can think of really.
Also there's http://www.wheretoliveinauckland.co.nz/ - this great book for Auckland which gives you information about each suburb - ethnic/socio-economic, schools, best and worst streets, average house prices, rental prices, facilities in the area, etc.
And I just found http://www.movetonz.org/ - this site for people moving to NZ while looking for the above one lol!
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Posted By: myfullhouse
Date Posted: 17 January 2009 at 12:13pm
Spring Sun wrote:
Also, if my husband and I (no little one) are coming to visit for just 2 weeks, then would we take a plane from Auckland to CHCH? |
It depends on how much time you have. If you don't have much time you would be best to fly. If you have extra time you could drive (allow at least 2 days) or you could take the train and ferry and possibly spend up to a day in Wellington on your way through
http://timetable.railnewzealand.com/ - Rail timetable and costs
http://www.railnewzealand.com/trains/ - Long Distance train info
Taking the train wouldn't be as stressful as driving but you could still see the country as you go
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Posted By: lisa85
Date Posted: 17 January 2009 at 12:24pm
Jack_&_Charli Wrote -
yes auckland do get most of the cool concerts, but it's only a short plane ride from chch...........and at least we got bon jovi all to ourselves
Depends what music your into. I love the music scene in Chch although I know its not to everyones tastes DH and I are into Drum & Bass, Jazz, Dubstep, Break beat, Reggae, New Zealand roots music and live local bands which are all huge in CHCH if your going to the right places. We don't get so many of the big international names but we have awesome local talent and a very funky nightlife.
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Posted By: Hopes
Date Posted: 17 January 2009 at 12:32pm
Linzy wrote:
Spring Sun wrote:
Also, if my husband and I (no little one) are coming to visit for just 2 weeks, then would we take a plane from Auckland to CHCH? |
It depends on how much time you have. If you don't have much time you would be best to fly. If you have extra time you could drive (allow at least 2 days) or you could take the train and ferry and possibly spend up to a day in Wellington on your way through
http://timetable.railnewzealand.com/ - Rail timetable and costs
http://www.railnewzealand.com/trains/ - Long Distance train info
Taking the train wouldn't be as stressful as driving but you could still see the country as you go |
I second (or third?) the idea of driving and taking the ferry, if you have the time. It's a really nice trip, and a great way to see the country. I'd probably actually prefer to drive than take the train, but either's a good option.
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Posted By: Glow
Date Posted: 17 January 2009 at 12:34pm
http://www.nz-immigration.co.nz/pre-arrival-pack.html - NZ immigration will more than likely be an invaluable resourse to you
Now Im being impartial In my former life I was a travel & tourism consultant, specializing in visitor info
Christchurch- The city is close but far away Its only a few metres above sea level. With a popualtion of 360,000 its the largest city in the south & has over half the sth Island poulation living there. Cons- Boring Canterbury plains-intensive dairy farming. High youth popualtion with lots of teen pregnancies.
In a nutshell- the highest peaks, the most striking water colours & fanatastic tussock landscapes
Auckland- the largest & most populated area in the country. With the largest Polynesian population in the world (More Nuieans live in Auckland than in Nuie) It lies on a narrow isthmus no more than 2mtre wide at the norrowest point & is one of only few cities in the world with harbours on two seperate waters. There are approx 50 volcanic vents around the area which are doormant.
Cons- traffic porblems, lack of good public transport, housing, air pollution & crime are the strongest negative factors to living there
In a nutshell- mild climate, plentiful employment & eduactional opportunities as well as lesiure
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Posted By: Bobbie
Date Posted: 17 January 2009 at 3:15pm
But air pollution is bad in CHC in winter isn't it? Because there isn't any wind to carry away the smoke from fires and the exhaust. I have a friend who says after she goes jogging in CHC in winter she coughs up black soot
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/otago/news/article.cfm?l_id=141&objectid=10546554 - this is quite interesting (well page 2 is) but it is based mainly on housing.
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Posted By: Glow
Date Posted: 17 January 2009 at 3:46pm
Yes Chch has often exceeded WHO air pollution standards in winter, but they have funding available for home heating & have banned the use of open fires & woodburners older than 15yrs
Aucklands however, 80% of air pollution is from car emmissions. Carbon monoxide levels are higher in the region than say London Every year Auckland cars travel about 8 thousand million KMs which produces 500 tonnes of toxins PER DAY
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Posted By: McPloppy
Date Posted: 17 January 2009 at 4:22pm
I did not notice it last winter too much...It was my first winter back after being in Auckland for three years but you are right it used to be quite bad.
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Posted By: Bobbie
Date Posted: 17 January 2009 at 5:33pm
Eww that's gross - I kind of wish I didn't know that now
Just back because I thought of another handy link.
http://www.stats.govt.nz/census/default.htm - Census Information
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Posted By: McPloppy
Date Posted: 17 January 2009 at 5:52pm
Ew no not the coughing up soot thing just that there is smog
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Posted By: Spring Sun
Date Posted: 17 January 2009 at 6:39pm
Oh, that is not good. Is it really that polluted? I thought it would be much better than here. Do people bike and walk much?
I checked out that traffic link-thanks! But everytime I check it there is almost not traffic at all. When is rush hour for you? Our rush hour is 4-7pm.
Thanks for all the other links, too. I have been spending a lot of time looking at them.
I feel like there has to be something that we are overlooking. Something that will make it so that we can't go. Dh will have a student visa so my son and I should have no trouble getting visitor visa, right? It is just three years, and we both have skilled trades so after that I couldn't imagine it being hard to stay. Can you guys think of anything?
We have been busy planning. I can find flights for about $1000USD each. People must never go to the states, the plane costs too much! I did have a NZ boyfriend, though in the 4th grade. Hamish...
I think we'll try to come in March-April at the latest depending on when his interviews are. I just don't want to fly that long when I am really pregnant. The 2nd trimester is best.
We have to leave our 4 year old for the first time with my parents. He will love it but it will be really hard for me.
We are going to rent out our house when we move so that we can keep it. It is not the time at all to sell a house in the US. We both lease cars, and that will be the hardest thing. And then getting rid of all our stuff will be hard. Really, we should just bring a few needed things and rent or buy new things when we get there, right? Is the baby stuff less expensive there?
I know a million things will come up. It is so much to think about. I hope the trip feels more like a vacation. We need it.
Also, are there any good novels that take place in Auckland or CHCH? It would help me to get a better feel for the places.
Thanks again, I am loving all this info and conversation!
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Posted By: Emily281
Date Posted: 17 January 2009 at 6:47pm
I really don't find the pollution that bad. ALOT of people in CHCH bike - I swear half our office does. And there are alot of cycle lanes in and around the city. For recreational biking there are quite a few tracks around - especially around the Port Hills.
ETA: The reason you're probably not seeing much traffic is that its the weekend here. I would suggest having a look around noon Sunday your time which will be 8:00am Monday our time.
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Posted By: lisa85
Date Posted: 17 January 2009 at 7:27pm
Its great that you guys get to come over for a couple of weeks first because no matter what anyone here tells you, only you two can decide which city fits you best. All of your choices have great pros and I'm sure will feel like home in no time.
Auckland and Christchurch are both fantastic but very different citys will be fun to see which one fits you best.
BTW lol at the NZ boyfriend Hamish is such a kiwi lads name!
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Posted By: MummyFreckle
Date Posted: 17 January 2009 at 7:35pm
I have quite bad asthma and I am NEVER bothered by the pollution in Auckland. I have never noticed it either and I used to work in the heart of the city.
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Posted By: my2angels
Date Posted: 17 January 2009 at 7:37pm
When your actually living in it you dont notice any pollution, and ive never ever heard of anyone coughing up soot from running in chch, I run here every day (well in theory but ok so maybe every second day ) and its fine. That makes us sound like hong kong or where ever it is that where the masks cos they cant walk around breathing the air....it soooooo isnt like that.
Our rush hour traffic in chch would be 7.30-9.30am and 4-6pm I think and even then its not anything like auckland or overseas. Our rush hour is say a 15minute trip taking 30-45minutes, i have a friend in Brisbane who has a 1.5hr drive home which on the weekend takes her half an hour
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Posted By: lisa85
Date Posted: 17 January 2009 at 7:40pm
Yeah I lived in Brisbane for 10 months. On my first day at a new job I checked google to see how long it would take me to get there. It was a 25min drive. It took me 2 hours!!!! I was so late lol! It made me really appreciate traffic here. It doesn't normally take any more than 20 minutes to get anywhere.
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Posted By: McPloppy
Date Posted: 17 January 2009 at 7:43pm
DH sycles to work every day and a lot more people are doing so or car pooling due to "the economic crisis"
CHCH is easier to bike around due to it being flat unless that is you live on the hills lol.
Are you thinking of childcare as there is usually a long waiting list to get children in and you will also need to be looking at schools. I have done all this with my almost 4 year old and it is such a stressfull thing to do for your first born.
When some of our family went overseas to work they sold their house and put their belongings into storage...Would storage be and option for you, it would be a shame to sell everything.
If you are renting to start off with you could rent a sef contained house untill you get yourselves soted.
Not sure about prices for things. DH is forever telling me the states is so much cheeper than here (He used to live in Conneticut and would live there if he could).
Good luck again with your choice.
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Posted By: McPloppy
Date Posted: 17 January 2009 at 7:46pm
LOL about the traffic. i still find myself heading out the door and hour befor I need to be somewhere and finding I have 45 mins to spare from living in Auckland.
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Posted By: myfullhouse
Date Posted: 18 January 2009 at 11:33am
Spring Sun wrote:
We are going to rent out our house when we move so that we can keep it. It is not the time at all to sell a house in the US. We both lease cars, and that will be the hardest thing. And then getting rid of all our stuff will be hard. Really, we should just bring a few needed things and rent or buy new things when we get there, right? Is the baby stuff less expensive there? |
I suppose it depends on what you want to bring with you. You could get some quotes from international moving companies to have your furniture shipped over here. If you are planning to stay on then it may be worth it.
We have friends from the UK that moved here about 3+ yrs back. They bought alot of their furniture from http://www.trademe.co.nz/ - Trade Me which is an online trading/selling website. You can often get some bargins but it pays to know the approx price for the item brand new so you don't get stung
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Posted By: Hopes
Date Posted: 18 January 2009 at 5:41pm
Spring Sun wrote:
I feel like there has to be something that we are overlooking. Something that will make it so that we can't go. Dh will have a student visa so my son and I should have no trouble getting visitor visa, right? It is just three years, and we both have skilled trades so after that I couldn't imagine it being hard to stay. Can you guys think of anything?
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Well, how much planning has your DH done for his studies? Sorry if you've mentioned and I've missed it, but it doesn't sound like he's made arrangements to enrol in a University quite yet? Enroling in a PhD takes a little bit of time, and he'll have to choose where he wants to study, find supervisors and define a research topic etc etc before he can enrol. I guess you'll be looking into this on your visit?
At the same time, if he's eligible to enrol in a PhD in the states, and has good grades for his previous study, I can't imagine he'll have too many problems. Most Universities are dead keen for more good PhD candidates, so they'll help him as much as they can.
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Posted By: Hopes
Date Posted: 18 January 2009 at 5:45pm
Spring Sun wrote:
I feel like there has to be something that we are overlooking. Something that will make it so that we can't go. Dh will have a student visa so my son and I should have no trouble getting visitor visa, right? It is just three years, and we both have skilled trades so after that I couldn't imagine it being hard to stay. Can you guys think of anything?
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Oh - and it's not unusual at all for a PhD here to take more than three years. While some people do complete in three, the majority take about four. I'm guessing that the fact that you're working off a figure of three years means you've done some planning and he's confident he'll finish in that time, though - and like I said, it's quite possible, just not the norm here.
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Posted By: Spring Sun
Date Posted: 18 January 2009 at 7:24pm
Thanks again for all the info, this is so wonderful.
He already has a masters degree (3 years of post BA studies) in his field and is certified as a behaviour analyst. He just wants the credential for what he aims to do in his field. I wonder, though, how much of a need there is for a behaviour analyst in NZ for when school is over if we want to stay? He works with developmental disabilities and autistic children and adults.
He can get into programs here, but with two children and all our expenses he could not afford to take that many years off work. We can make it work in NZ, though.
I also have a postgraduate degree so could find skilled work, but don't want to do that. I started a business 4 years ago and am planning on running it remotely, but could create a branch in NZ, which would also qualify us. So, I *hope* we have our bases covered. We'll find out for sure next week and that is just one of the things that makes me nervous. It feels like there is something we are overlooking.
The one thing that is different is that here you almost never have to pay tuition, you just teach undergrad classes, but here he has to pay a ton of money. \
Also, does anyone know if yoga is not a big thing there? In Boulder there are probably 20 yoga studios, but I could only find a few online for CHCH. It is something I love to do and hope to find it out there, too.
Overall, I know that we have no idea what we are getting ourselves into. But I can do anything for three years. And everything we have read and heard sounds so wonderful. I think we won't really have an idea until we visit. And even then we won't have a true idea until we are there. But it looks like it will be great.
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Posted By: Hopes
Date Posted: 18 January 2009 at 7:31pm
Spring Sun wrote:
The one thing that is different is that here you almost never have to pay tuition, you just teach undergrad classes, but here he has to pay a ton of money. |
I'm just running out the door, but just wanted to make one quick comment - there might be scholarships he can apply for to help him with his studies. In NZ, most awards tend to be for NZ citizens or permanant residents, but there's still funding out there for international students. Especially PhD students.
Also, as a PhD student I believe he might be likely to qualify for tuition fees at domestic rates - you probably already know that, but if you didn't it could change your calculations a bit!
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Posted By: lisa85
Date Posted: 18 January 2009 at 7:56pm
I have a few friends that are into yogo. Since having the girls I keep meaning to sign up and join them but has been so hard to find time with 2 babies
They're getting older now though and I have much more me time so count me in on yoga classes
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Posted By: my2angels
Date Posted: 18 January 2009 at 8:45pm
yeah i can think of at least 5 yoga places off the top of my head so i wouldnt worry about that. you can always look up www.yellowpages.co.nz , that will list business' for you, its our business directory but remember not everyone advertises in it so its not everyone
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Posted By: caitlynsmygirl
Date Posted: 18 January 2009 at 10:33pm
I haven't read all the replies ,so apologies in advance
Auckland I love, born and bred Jafa, not keen on the actual city, as in the city CENTRE, but love Howick, where I live and all its history and little traditions, love Maraetai and Beachlands too, they are gorgeous.
Christchurch , i haven't been to, but I really want to , Ive seen photos tho, thats one place I would consider moving to if we moved from Auckland
Hamilton ,I have no problems with it either.
Im pretty biased and think our little country is lovely whereever you are
welcome to OB ,and goodluck with the move !
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Posted By: Emily281
Date Posted: 19 January 2009 at 9:06am
There are a few Yoga places in Christchurch, and most of the gyms also offer yoga classes so I don't think you'll have any problems.
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Posted By: caliandjack
Date Posted: 19 January 2009 at 10:30am
Hi Spring Sun, I work in the Assistive Technology industry, and there is demand for that type of work here, mostly through the Ministry of Education, and various agencies that work with children with special needs. Mostly they're occupational therapists and teachers, I'm sure your husband wouldn't have any trouble finding employment afterwards, I expect he'd be snapped up.
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Posted By: Spring Sun
Date Posted: 19 January 2009 at 6:11pm
Well, dh decided the program in CHCH is probably not the one he wants. Shoot, I was really starting to like the idea. I told him I would rather live in Auckland than in Hamilton, so we'll see.
I just checked out the traffic cams in Auckland during rush hour. It was not sooo bad. If you get a chance to check out Atlanta during rush hour, or any other time during the day for that matter, here is the link. It doesn't even move. http://www.georgia-navigator.com/cameras - Atlanta traffic
I am glad about the yoga, that is good.
We are thinking about hiring an immigration consultant. Might be easier and less expensive than figuring everything out ourselves.
Can't wait to visit! We just have to wait to hear back a few things from the schools and make sure the immigration consultant does not find anything obvious that would make it so that we could not live there, and then we'll buy our tickets!
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Posted By: susieq
Date Posted: 19 January 2009 at 6:36pm
As a mother of a special needs adult/ with a developmental age of 6 or so and some autistic traits yes he would be snapped up
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Posted By: Bobbie
Date Posted: 19 January 2009 at 7:45pm
Yay how exciting Stacey!
Yeah I didn't think you'd think the peak hour traffic was bad - that's why I linked you to the cams.
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Posted By: ClareB
Date Posted: 20 January 2009 at 9:02pm
my Hb and I moved to Auckland from Florida five years ago and will soon be moving to Christchurch(HB can't wait for ski season lol) it was quite a change but worth it! The first year was the hardest with all the rain in the winter. There is lots to do in Auckland though the coment about people not wanting to drive for a visit can be true, Good luck with the move and studys
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Posted By: caliandjack
Date Posted: 20 January 2009 at 9:43pm
I'm not sure if your DH works with adults or children, he should check out Carlson School in Mt Roskill or Homai School out Howick way, they're both fully catering to children with special needs. - I guess work wise Auckland does have the most opportunities, and places like the north shore and rodney are quite laid back with beaches close by.
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Posted By: Bobbie
Date Posted: 20 January 2009 at 10:59pm
There's a special needs school in Takapuna on the North Shore.
http://www.wilson.school.nz/welcome.php - Wilson Home
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Posted By: HippyMama
Date Posted: 20 January 2009 at 11:20pm
I think there is another one in Glenfield / Wairau area too, on the North Shore... a special needs school that is! I will have to actually look at the signs next time I drive past though as I can't rememer the name right now 
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Posted By: Spring Sun
Date Posted: 22 January 2009 at 12:50pm
Can I ask another question that is really frustrating me and I can't seem to find the answer to? I keep hearing very different things.
So, to us, it seems much cheaper to live in NZ. Houses, rent, food, everything seems to be almost half the price as it is in the states.
But, a lot of people online seem to be talking about how we should bring as much stuff as we can, because it is much more expensive to buy it in NZ.
I went to trademe.com, and it looks like a fridge is US$40-$150. This could not be right, that is way too cheap. There were full dining room sets on there for $20.
So what am I missing? If you have lived in the states or know the prices there, what important things are more expensive or less? Should we even getting a shipping container?
You all have been so helpful with all this, thanks again.
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Posted By: Emily281
Date Posted: 22 January 2009 at 1:03pm
HI Springsun
I haven't lived in the US but there are a couple of things to remember. Firstly most of the stuff on Trademe is 2nd hand stuff which is why it is so cheap. A new fridge would be around US$450-$600 and a dining suite would be around US$300-$500.
Also remember to take into account the difference in income levels. I don't know what the average US wage is, but here it is around US$25000.
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Posted By: Hopes
Date Posted: 22 January 2009 at 2:02pm
I haven't lived in the US either, but am happy to help price things out, if you want. If there's any big things you want ideas on, chuck them at us, and I'm sure someone will be able to give you a pretty accurate estimate.
TradeMe is great, but as has been mentioned, is mostly second hand. Your $40 fridge would probably be pretty old and scody.
If you want to get an idea of prices for new items, these websites might help:
http://www.noelleeming.co.nz - Noel Leeming (appliances etc)
http://www.bigsave.co.nz/home.asp - Big Save (furniture etc)
http://www.farmers.co.nz/ - Farmers (general homewares - also has furniture and appliances)
http://www.briscoes.co.nz/ - Briscoes (homewares)
https://www.woolworths.co.nz/HomeShopping/default.aspx - Woolworths (groceries)
Hope they're useful - I've chosen ones that seem to have prices online, so you can get an idea of what things cost.
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Posted By: Spring Sun
Date Posted: 22 January 2009 at 4:00pm
Thanks so much-those site were really helpful. It looks like a lot of items are the same price and some are 1/2 what they are here. The biggest thing is the rent or mortgage, so if that is 1/2 then that is good.
As for incomes, the average here is US$45,000 (I had to look that up:) We'll both be keeping our US incomes. I won't have a visa to work and dh will only be able to work in NZ part time while going to school. This is the only way he could swing doing a phd with two little ones.
I think it makes more sense to get a moving crate. That way, we can bring all the little things too that we would otherwise throw out.
I am pooped out from all this research (I hope you guys have that saying!) It was so exciting for the first 100 hours and now I am just wearing myself out with it.
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Posted By: McPloppy
Date Posted: 22 January 2009 at 4:27pm
LOL, pooped, buggered, knackered, stuffed.....
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Posted By: Bobbie
Date Posted: 22 January 2009 at 5:16pm
heehee yep buggered is a good one. You'll probably be using that a fair bit in the first few months as you get settled.
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