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Topic: Did anyone watch...
Posted By: Bubnumber2
Subject: Did anyone watch...
Date Posted: 17 April 2009 at 12:19am
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20/20 tonight? With the wee girl who was oxygen deprived at birth?
So sad.  ------------- http://www.bump-and-beyond.com/"> 
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Posted By: cuppatea
Date Posted: 17 April 2009 at 6:56am
Yeah it was so so sad That poor family and that poor little girl.------------- 
 
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Posted By: bex88
Date Posted: 17 April 2009 at 8:11am
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Yea it made me cry. And also made me feel so grateful to have a beautiful healthy boy. -------------  
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Posted By: Snappy
Date Posted: 17 April 2009 at 8:14am
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I was sobbing the whole time
That poor wee girl, its just not fair. ------------- Mummy to two beauties... Formerly Kaiz. |
Posted By: AandCsmum
Date Posted: 17 April 2009 at 8:29am
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I definitely felt her angry & her sadness, I don't know how she didn't cry, she is one strong lady.
It made me extremely grateful that my two kids are here & healthly. DH & I also felt really sad for the women who may be under her care now & are now probably freaking out about their LMC. ------------- Kel http://lilypie.com"> 
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Posted By: Bubnumber2
Date Posted: 17 April 2009 at 8:47am
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I know, it was awful.
I understand mistakes can happen and everything,and you can't always hold someone to blame, but I can't believe the mistake they made when trying to resuscitate the baby. Not to mention the 'apology' the parents got. The letter seemed like it was just a formal thing that her bosses (whoever they are) were making her do. If it were me, I'd be around there bawling apologies, not sending a crappy 2 line letter. Obviously didn't hear the midwives side or anything, but it's hard not to judge her for what happened. ------------- http://www.bump-and-beyond.com/">
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Posted By: jjands
Date Posted: 17 April 2009 at 9:01am
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that was so sad! I wish they had told us a bit more about what happened. It's sad that these things happen..theres some horrific stories from our local maternity too which is why most people travel an hour to a main hospital very scary. I can't imagine what that family go through every day
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Posted By: Peanut
Date Posted: 17 April 2009 at 9:03am
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I really felt for the family. It would be every parents worse nightmare. I agree that apology letter was very poor and completely unacceptable
The only thing I hate about articles like that is the pure lack of detail e.g was the MW her LMC or a ward MW, how long had the MW been practising, how many clients does she take on etc. I also get annoyed when they throw all MW's in the same basket. They are clearly not all the same and all have different years of experience etc. To me stories like that highlight the need for woman to really check out their MW's etc. -------------  
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Posted By: lilfatty
Date Posted: 17 April 2009 at 9:20am
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The midwife that delivered the baby was her main LMC (her backup midwife was also there) ------------- Mummy to Issy (3) and Elias (18 months) I did it .. 41 kgs gone! From flab to fab in under a year  http://www.femininefitness.co.nz/category/blog - LFs weight blog
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Posted By: Bubnumber2
Date Posted: 17 April 2009 at 9:22am
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I also get annoyed when they throw all MW's in the same basket.
Completely agree. I know my m/w was brilliant and entirely competent, I fully trusted her to give my baby and I great care,and she did. ------------- http://www.bump-and-beyond.com/">
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Posted By: clover
Date Posted: 17 April 2009 at 9:26am
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As someone TTC at the moment it made me very nervous about who to choose as my LMC when the time comes. I understand this was a small provincial hospital and I live in a main centre, but it does make me wonder how much more we should be asking midwives, but the catch is there is such a shortage I think most people are just happy when they manage to find one.
It makes me wonder if I might pay for an OB when the time comes. ------------- http://lilypie.com"> 
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Posted By: Bubnumber2
Date Posted: 17 April 2009 at 9:42am
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Summerlamb, it's hard not to worry when you hear things like this eh? Just try to remember that MOST midwives are competent and do a good job, as do Obstetricians.
Best thing to do I think, is to start calling midwives the moment you know you're pregnant, hopefully that way you can see a few and decide who you're more comfortable with, rather than just having to take whoever is left with space available. Ask around! My m/w was recommended to me by a friend as being really great, and it was true so now I'm recommending her to others also. Use the experiences (good and bad) that other people have had, they can help you judge. Plus, if at any time you feel they're not doing a good job, and are not happy with the care you are receiving, you can change midwives. Some people don't like to do it, but I figure it's your pregnancy and your baby...you need to be comfortable with and trust the person caring for you and you baby/babies. Good luck with TTC. Sorry for my slightly long post.  ------------- http://www.bump-and-beyond.com/">
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Posted By: becky
Date Posted: 17 April 2009 at 10:03am
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I also watched this and felt very sad for the family, I went down to my wee man and gave him a kiss and counted my blessings.
My big question is why do people who make such big mistakes get to carry on as normal. It looked to me like 20/20 tried to get the midwives story but she declined to comment. If I found out my LMC had had this happen under her care I would freak and would definately find myself another LMC. It is bad that they lump all midwives in one basket and I had this conversation with my LMC during my pregnancy as Im doing social work and this also happens to social workers. When one gets a bad name it brings shame to the whole profession which should not happen but does. Sorry for writing a novel. ------------- http://lilypie.com"> 
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Posted By: noisybaby
Date Posted: 17 April 2009 at 10:56am
| it seemed to me though we only heard one side of the story. that annoys me about 20/20 they only screen the side that they think people will want to watch. i have heaps of questions that the story raised but didn't answer. i kind of feel sorry for the MW. shes been labelled negligent etc but what really happened in the delivery room??? I guess we will never really know but we are always really fast to cast the blame to the one we THINK is at fault |
Posted By: clover
Date Posted: 17 April 2009 at 11:46am
But they tired to get her side of the story and she declined to comment..... And thatnks for your post bubsnum2, you are right, it is all about communication and finding someone you feel confident in. Unfortunately none of my friends have had babies yet (one is pg at the moment though) so I think I'll be looking for recommendations on here. ------------- http://lilypie.com">
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noisybaby wrote:Posted By: lilfatty
Date Posted: 17 April 2009 at 12:27pm
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summerlamb .. its a great idea to get "references" from happy mums.
Im using the midwife I have this time as she came highly recommended by three Mums on here (one of them has had four babies .. so she must know her stuff lol). After a terrifying first birth, it was very important to me I choose wisely this time 
And I totally agree .. they tried to get her side of the story and she declined to comment .. what should they do?? Not tell the story at all?? ------------- Mummy to Issy (3) and Elias (18 months) I did it .. 41 kgs gone! From flab to fab in under a year http://www.femininefitness.co.nz/category/blog - LFs weight blog
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Posted By: linda
Date Posted: 17 April 2009 at 1:59pm
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A while back a MW was found guilty of causing a babies death but she was granted name supression and was now working in Wellington. I've always had OB's but it really concerned me that you could have that MW and you would never know. You'll only ever find out what they want you to know.
It was very sad though and a shame that the LMC wouldn't give her side of the story. ------------- http://lilypie.com"> 
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Posted By: noisybaby
Date Posted: 17 April 2009 at 3:31pm
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yeah but could she due to the investigation? and don't they have to abide by some privacy laws regarding patient info?
Hey don't get me wrong. I feel for the lady that it happened to but we don't know all the facts only hers from her point of view. Is she a dr or really know what was going on in that delivery room? Again there was more questions than answers that the programme raised. I know it was a shame the LMC didn't respond but by the time they would have had her side after the ladies would anyone actually have given her an open mind to what she had to say. I'm not sticking up for the LMC but I do believe everyone has the simple right to be innocent until proven guilty. |
Posted By: lilfatty
Date Posted: 17 April 2009 at 3:39pm
The medical council did find her guilty of of several (hence the "forced" apology) .. or did I not get that part correct? ------------- Mummy to Issy (3) and Elias (18 months) I did it .. 41 kgs gone! From flab to fab in under a year http://www.femininefitness.co.nz/category/blog - LFs weight blog
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Posted By: noisybaby
Date Posted: 17 April 2009 at 3:46pm
| I took it as they found they were lacking in several areas which they had retrained in but no GUILTY as such. |
Posted By: clover
Date Posted: 17 April 2009 at 3:53pm
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The story is in full on the TVNZ website if anyone wants to read it but the ruling was:
"The health and disability commissioner found no evidence of note doctoring but ruled that the midwives had failed to keep adequate records, failed to co-ordinate back-up and breached the code in several respects. They were ordered to review their practices, undertake further training and send a letter of apology." ------------- http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: peachy
Date Posted: 17 April 2009 at 3:56pm
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I found it very upsetting to watch, that poor family reliving a nightmare day after day ------------- http://lilypie.com">  http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: TysMummy
Date Posted: 17 April 2009 at 6:41pm
im from the waikato and a few people have had her as MW and its not the first time soemthing like this has happened with this women...........of course this is the most horriable case and i dont think that any others come close..........apparently she is still practicing or was until last night......... the lady had 3 MW (dont know why but can only guess its cause she couldnt concieve) if the lead MW thought she had honestly done the correct thing then why wont she comment?? she is an extrememly rude lady at the best of times...............oh and some one asked how long she had been practising.............for donkeys years ..... all i can say is beware of this lady if your in the waikato ...............oh and one more thing.............im annoyed that there isnt some site we can go to with names of MW that have had serious action taken against them......like child moleste4rrs..just found out there was one 2 doors down from me.  ------------- http://lilypie.com">  http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: _Soda_
Date Posted: 17 April 2009 at 7:42pm
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yeah what got me was that they wernet willing to give their side of the story..if what the poor mother was saying wasnt true, or she was making it out to be more the fault fo the LMC than it actually was- wouldnt the LMC have been more than happy to front up and say their side of the story? if they really did do everything they could to help the baby and mother, then they wouldnt have refused to comment imho..
and yes the letter of apology was disgusting! I started watching it and then DH came and sat and watche4d it too. once it was over we sat in stunned silence. Dh is one of 5 children in his family, 2 of his younger siblings have special needs, so its not shocking for him to see in that way, but to think someone who is supposed to be professional and know what they are doing to ruin a childs and their families life like that absolutely floored him. now hes saying he wants us to be back in auckalnd when we have our 1st baby coz he doesnt want just one small hospital to be the only option for us.. im starting to think that might be a good idea,,,, its just so scary! ------------- My little miracle 6/1/2011 My angel in Heaven 9/5/14 http://lilypie.com" rel="nofollow"> 
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