Jim Mason on Sunday
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Topic: Jim Mason on Sunday
Posted By: Bizzy
Subject: Jim Mason on Sunday
Date Posted: 24 May 2009 at 7:53pm
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Am watching this and dont know what i think really.
not sure if he did really punch the kid, if he did then sure he should be punished. He did say he pulled the hair of one kid and "flicked" one in the ear... and his description of his robust "pedal and stop" lesson certainly doesnt sound warranted after the kid had practically knocked himself out... and some would argue that the language he used was abusive too... ------------- http://www.myfitnesspal.com/weight-loss-ticker"> 
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Posted By: katie1
Date Posted: 24 May 2009 at 8:14pm
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Not sure what I think either after watching it.
I am sure that his language at the time wouldn't have helped his situation. The people watching might have been more forgiving if he hadn't been swearing loudly. I can understand that he would have been worried about the safety of the three children in such a busy place - I sometimes feel stressed enough managing two wee ones out and about! I probably wouldn't have taken two kids and a baby in a pram biking in such a busy area in the first place. But I am probably over paranoid! His children look gorgeous! |
Posted By: Mamma2N
Date Posted: 24 May 2009 at 8:30pm
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I think it was probably a case of people not seeing the whole situation and drawing conclusions from the little they did see. The way he spoke of the day and his way of discipline is not disimilar to the way my father would have spoken to us and yes we were smacked and sworn at, but most definetly not what I would deem as abuse. (Some may beg to differ, but I don't see it as abuse).
I am completely against the Anti-smacking law. For the most part because it came as a response to the appalling child abuse statistics we have in this country, many cases in which children have been killed. I know first hand that people who abuse their children to the point of serious injury and/or death occuring, do not recognise the law in general, so why the hell would they take notice of this law?? IMO there are far better and more productive ways of addressing the problem of child abuse in our country.. Anyway that is another completely different thread. Sorry to thread jack there Bizzy 
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Posted By: Bobbie
Date Posted: 24 May 2009 at 8:33pm
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Yeah I started watching it but must admit I got bored and changed over. But I did see where he admitted to swearing like a trucker the whole time and I was suprised that he was all grumpy and giving the kid a 'lesson' when he'd almost knocked himself out.
Sounds like it was a really stressful situation for him but still even with the smacking question aside he sounds like a really tightly wound parent. I'm sure those kids are going to grow up with extensive vocabularies. -------------  
 
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Posted By: becky
Date Posted: 25 May 2009 at 9:38am
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Sorry didnt see the program but just wanted to add as adults we teach our children not to hit other children and not to hurt people in other ways by biting etc. Then we turn around and dicipline our children by hitting them a bit of a mixed message IMO. I personally like the Anti-Smacking law no it wont stop the abusers as no they dont abide by the law, but it does give a voice to children that smacking is not ok and what gives us the right just because we are adults to hit a little person. As an adult we are twice the size of children imagine being hit by us!! ------------- http://lilypie.com"> 
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Posted By: Bizzy
Date Posted: 25 May 2009 at 10:30am
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thats okay anna bana - we will have to agree to disagree tho i think as i was all for the repeal of section 59. no it may not stop the abusers but at least they wont be able to use section 59 as an excuse. ------------- http://www.myfitnesspal.com/weight-loss-ticker">
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Posted By: Mamma2N
Date Posted: 25 May 2009 at 9:36pm
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I have to say that yes I completely understand and have to correct myself and say I agree with that aspect of the repeal. No abuser should be given a way out so to speak, for harming a child.
I suppose what makes me angry is that for years we have heard of so many children that have been severely beaten/killed and nothing pro-active seems to be happening within the community to address this. I realise there is no easy and simple solution but I feel like nothing is really being done. Having just given birth to my own child, I have been thinking more and more about this issue. I come from an area where so many children I went to school with were abused and sadly now, many of them have gone on to abuse their own children. I am only 24 and to see this cycle continue saddens me. There isn't enough support in communities such as mine showing families that abuse is not a normal part of life. (I would like to point out that I myself was not abused and I was lucky to have had a brilliant childhood). I guess I'm angry that after years of such high profile child abuse cases, I still return to the community I grew up in and hear of children and their mothers being abused - with no initiative from the government to have people working in these communities with families that need help the most. Instead the abuse carries on and sadly we turn on the television to hear of another case of child abuse. I will correct myself Bizzy.. I suppose in a round about way I am seeing the repeal in a different light. I am just so angry about this issue (like most people), and even more so about the lack of support where it is truely needed. Sorry that was way too long!
Edited - to clarify myself properly - baby brain! 
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Posted By: Bizzy
Date Posted: 25 May 2009 at 9:39pm
thanks for sharing that anna.  ------------- http://www.myfitnesspal.com/weight-loss-ticker">
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Posted By: Gardengirl
Date Posted: 26 May 2009 at 5:36pm
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I thought the guy was a jerk. He seemed to think that swearing like a trooper at his kids in the street is a perfectly acceptable form of parenting.
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