Finger Food for Dairy Free Gagger!
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Topic: Finger Food for Dairy Free Gagger!
Posted By: KiwiL
Subject: Finger Food for Dairy Free Gagger!
Date Posted: 27 June 2009 at 11:25pm
Can people give me finger food ideas for my chronic gagging, massive vomiting, fussy, no teeth, non-hungry, dairy free, nasogastric-tube-fed little boy?
So far I have been giving him:
Cruskits
Nice biscuits
Little marmite sandwiches
Have also been trying to give him pieces of fruit but he still can't pick them up effectively and doesn't like the mesh feeder. He's not had a lot of chewing practice, and hasn't got any teeth yet so has trouble biting harder things.
I tried crumpets tonight, but everytime he touched them he drew his hand away like it had been burnt!
There may be some oral aversion issues too, so things need to be easy to pick up. I am sure I am missing lots of options.... my mind is numb from trying to feed this kid.
Thanks!
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Posted By: Shezamumof3
Date Posted: 27 June 2009 at 11:49pm
Caden only has his two bottom teeth so Im always careful about what i give him, but usually things he can suck are good, he LOVES the Little Kids rice cake things, they come in honey flavour, tomato and banana and apple(i think) they kind of just dissolve in his mouth.
Will he eat banana? or maybe a little bit kinda smeared on some bread?
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Posted By: blondy
Date Posted: 28 June 2009 at 9:04am
laurie - i don't know how strict you are being with the dairy free thing, but most cruskits, and definitely most biscuits will have milk powder or other milk derivatives in them. (as do all chip/rice wafer flavourings other than plain).
Natalie is also dairy (and egg) free, and also a massive gagger/vomiter (one lump and the whole meal can come back on us)....although she does seem to be growing out of the gagging thing lately.
food that crumbles seems to be good for her, so I make mini muffins (banana or lemon for eg), and just reduce the sugar in them and substitute the dairy and egg. Orgran do a great range of *everything* free mini crispbreads and biscuits, which she can suck and they dissolve. Olivani is one of the few dairy-free spreads out there, and I usually put some of that on the muffins/crispbread etc. Crackers like snax are quite good too, as they tend to dissolve rather than break up. We're also now doing corn fritters (without egg or dairy), but you could change something else in for the corn (or just massively puree it up first).
we haven't had much success with banana by itself - she just tends to squish it rather than eat it, but as Sheena said, it might be worth a go.
I'll see if i can think up anything else, but just wanted to say *hugs* also, it seems like you've been through so much with Jackson's eating....hopefully there's some light at the end of the tunnel.
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Posted By: kakapo
Date Posted: 28 June 2009 at 10:27am
How about tinned fruit? Yes, it is slippery and difficult to pick up - but you could feed him pieces using your fingers (rather than off a spoon) and if you find something he likes he may try to pick it up himself later on? We still sometimes feed Jimmy finger food items from our hands initially - usually when offering something he hasn't tried before. He also doesn't like touching some foods, especially sticky things, and will spend ages trying to shake stuff off his fingers instead of eating .
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Posted By: Bizzy
Date Posted: 28 June 2009 at 11:26am
his lack of teeth wont affect what he can eat...their gums are a lot harder than an old persons with no teeth. big chunks of canned fruit may be a good idea. or even fresh fruit, a soft pear for instance or orange segments... how bout cooked carrot chunks (kind of like par boiled so they are still firm but not too hard and not mushy either). also if he doesnt eat it but plays with it instead thats all good..it helps get them used to textures etc...
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Posted By: cuppatea
Date Posted: 28 June 2009 at 11:57am
I thought Nice biscuits have milk in? like most other store bought biscuits?
Anyway, envirokids make a dairy free softish biscuit, there are also organ outback crackers and some called healthy handfuls. They are all organic but also dairy free, lots of organic stuff is dairy free.
Other things you could try are casava crisps (made from casava flour, signature range make them) they just dissolve in the mouth, rice crackers and cakes would be good if he just sucks on them (Spencer had them when he only had a couple of teeth and he just use to suck them to pieces). Just only get plain and check brand, you would be surprised what crap some companies stick in plain crackers.
Have you checked what is in the crumpets? I know Spencer can't have them but not sure if it's cos of dairy or eggs, or perhaps they have preservatives, I know there was some reason why I put them on the banned list.
With some of the drier foods like the cruskits I use to spread some puree on it so soften it up before giving it as finger food so you could try that, might encourage him as well if there is something in particular he likes. Spencer loved pumpkin so I use to spread that on everything.
I was also going to say like Bizzy that it is good to them play with the food as well as eat it, good for their sensory development and it also takes the pressure off eating if you just leave them to it with the food, invariable sooner or later curiosity gets the better of them and it goes in the mouth.
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Posted By: KiwiL
Date Posted: 28 June 2009 at 12:19pm
Thanks guys. Sheena, rice cakes are something I thought of but forgot about, so thanks!
I am not convinced about the dairy thing, but the paed has us dairy free for a bit longer. Personally I don't think there are allergies but I am doing as I am told! So, I avoid anything with milk or milk products as an ingredient, but am ok if it says "may contain traces of..." Nice biscuits are about THE only biscuits that don't contain dairy, so they are safe. He used to LOVE gingernuts, but can't give those yet.
Olivani goes in everything for the calories! There are preservative allergies in DH's family, so yes we have to be careful of those too.
Yep, we are happy if Jackson will play with the food. But like Jimmy he doesn't like sticky stuff.
The Casava crisps sound good. Gonna make a wee shopping list now! And Cuppatea, we also spread pumpkin on everything!! :o) You're right about the amount of crap in foods, I have been surprised that pretty much everything processed in the world contains dairy. Hopefully won't be much of a challenge for much longer as I am desperate to start giving him yoghurt and cheese!
Thanks so much for the suggestions.
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Posted By: catisla
Date Posted: 28 June 2009 at 3:42pm
Laurie - i give Catriona those ricecake things - the honey ones she likes (though it took a couple of attempts). They say 'over one year' on the packet, but i gave them to her anyway and she has been fine . . .
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Posted By: catisla
Date Posted: 28 June 2009 at 3:44pm
double post!
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Posted By: LeahandJoel
Date Posted: 28 June 2009 at 5:52pm
I cut up pumpkin, kumara and potato into small bite sized bits and roast them......Joel loves these and he feeds himself easily.
I also make up a mix of mince and sausage meat and chop up very finely mushrooms, brocolli and cauliflower (in food processor or suchlike) and grate on fine grater carrot and pumpkin and mix together (I also add hallf a pkt of bacon and onion soup mix but you don't have to) mix it all together really well (I use my fingers and really squish it together) and make mini meatballs out of it, then freeze them freeflow and keep them in a ziplock bag in the freezer then I have instant meals.
They only take 20mins from frozen to cook and some nights this is all he will eat but at least its full of veges as well. The sausage meat makes the mix really tender and it doesn't get all dry like normal mince meatballs can do.
Even with no food restrictions I still struggle sometimes, but i'm lucky in that he will eat almost anything. My sisters boys can have no additives, preservatives, colours and now are on a low dairy low wheat diet as well, so I know how hard it is with restrictions.
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Posted By: JoJames
Date Posted: 28 June 2009 at 6:40pm
I've found persimmon is really good, and james has no teeth and has no trouble.
He also has peanut butter or jam or marmite sandwiches which he doesn't really have a problem with.
And I give him corn thins which dissolve as well.
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