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Topic: The Sophie Elliott trial
Posted By: lemongirl
Subject: The Sophie Elliott trial
Date Posted: 09 July 2009 at 5:20pm
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10583471&pnum=0

To say I am unimpressed by the narcissistic bedwetter defence put up by her attacker would be an understatement.

The fact he gets to use the provocation (ie. she made me do it for being mean to me) as his defence makes my blood curl. It's bad enough that he killed her in such a heinous way, but that he now gets to trample her memory as well makes it so much worse.

My thoughts are with her friends and family.






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Posted By: pepsi
Date Posted: 09 July 2009 at 5:33pm
He's an absolute psycho. What a horrific way for her to die, it's something you'd think you could only see in a horror movie. Her poor family.


Posted By: Bobbie
Date Posted: 09 July 2009 at 5:45pm
I agree - the fact that he's using 'provocation' as a defence is ridiculous. He's obviously unrepentant.

I feel especially sorry for her mother who was right there. OMG talk about a mother's worst nightmare

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Posted By: M2K
Date Posted: 09 July 2009 at 6:05pm
This guy makes me sick, each time I see this man he makes my blood boil...

the fact she was packing to move to another city, starting a new life, he obviously was never going to let her go and live her life without him so he planned to kill her, no body carries a knife that size, just in case.

He sounds like a control freak who put her down constantly, and she was so gorgeous, young, smart, had a lot going for her. It seems like if he coudln't have her, no one else would.

I hope he goes away for a VERY long time, looser

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Posted By: my4beauties
Date Posted: 09 July 2009 at 6:10pm
That guy need to be hung by his balls!!!!!  The biggest creep ever!!  I'm horrified at what he did to that poor girl, and for her mum who would've seen it.  Those horrific memories will never leave her.  I hope the jury find him GUILTY of MURDER!!!

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Posted By: caitlynsmygirl
Date Posted: 09 July 2009 at 6:54pm
you've all said exactly what I would say anyway.

ugh,scum , complete and utter scum .

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Posted By: monkey33
Date Posted: 09 July 2009 at 8:23pm
You're right joleneandjustin - she seemed to be very smart and was gorgeous and it is an absolute shame what this monster did.

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Posted By: kellie
Date Posted: 09 July 2009 at 9:51pm
If he doesn't get put away for a long time charged with murder then justice has not been done imo.
Her poor mother.

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Posted By: katie1
Date Posted: 09 July 2009 at 11:03pm
I agree too. The more I see it on the news the more annoyed it makes me. It is terrible.


Posted By: jaycee
Date Posted: 10 July 2009 at 9:16am
I think that it is an utter disgrace that the victim can be treated in such a way. As you have all said already - he needs to go to jail for a LONG time. Her poor mother

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Posted By: clover
Date Posted: 10 July 2009 at 9:44am
I agree, the fact that he is allowed to tarnish her memory is shocking. The guy is clearly psycho and needs to go away for a very long time (won't be long enough though will it).


Posted By: fattykat
Date Posted: 10 July 2009 at 12:05pm
I can't even watch anything to do with this on the news as it just makes me so angry. He is a awful man who I hope rots in jail for a very very long time.
Its just unimaginable what her poor mother must be going through. No one should have to see what she did.


Posted By: didi99
Date Posted: 10 July 2009 at 1:38pm
I completely agree with everyone!!
I can't imagine the jury will have any problems finding him guilty, although we really do need hasher penilties for psychos like him!!

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Posted By: AzzaNZ
Date Posted: 10 July 2009 at 3:54pm
Its revolting. he's a psychopath.


Posted By: monkey33
Date Posted: 10 July 2009 at 7:58pm
It makes me so mad that the lawyer is going for manslaughter - I simply cannot understand how cutting/stabbing someone 216 times could be manslaughter and not cold blooded murder?

Every time I hear about this now it makes me so mad

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Posted By: palomino
Date Posted: 10 July 2009 at 8:42pm
phew im not the only one who cant believe he is trying for manslaughter. its disgusting. hes sick and should be locked away for life. theres a huuuge difference between retaliating and giving someone a slap or something (not condoning violence, but you get my point) and stabbing and violating someone 200 odd times.


Posted By: Maya
Date Posted: 10 July 2009 at 9:58pm
I can't understand how he can even be allowed to give provocation as a defence - even if she looked him in the eye and said "kill me!", it still doesn't give him the right to kill her! Provocation my big toe!

And yes, it creeps me out to the way he is so cool, calm and collected. Sociopath much?

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Posted By: emz
Date Posted: 10 July 2009 at 10:33pm
I agree with everything said above, the guy is a complete psycho.

And he sits in the stand laughing and joking about him being 'top of his class' blah blah blah. If you kill someone without meaning to do so (manslaughter) then surely your whole demeanour throughout the trial would reflect remorse and utter disgust with yourself.

I hope this guy goes away for a long time and gets what he deserves in prison (which no doubt he will, even crims have morals apparently!)


Posted By: AandCsmum
Date Posted: 10 July 2009 at 11:37pm
Maya, you said what I was going to say, how could someone be so calm even jovial talking about things she apparently said to him of a sexual nature...FREAK...

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Posted By: KiwiL
Date Posted: 11 July 2009 at 6:14pm
I HATE how much he seems to be enjoying being on the stand. I hope the jury is seeing how arrogant he is.

Ew he is just horrible and my heart breaks for that girl who must have been so excited about starting a new job. Not to mention her mother, what that lady must have gone through.

He said he killed Sophie because of all the hell she had put him through.... what about the hell he has inflicted on everyone else by being selfish and killing her.

I don't understand the manslaughter defence, it makes a joke of our justice system that they would even allow such a defence. I can't imagine how he will be found anything BUT guilty of murder. I hope he gets a very, very long sentence.


Posted By: ISpyCharlie
Date Posted: 12 July 2009 at 3:50pm

I agree, in court his behaviour was odd and arrogant. I don't understand how he thinks what he did is not murder but manslaughter, especially when he went to her house with a knife and scissors, with an intention of killing her, come on!



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Posted By: fire_engine
Date Posted: 12 July 2009 at 6:57pm
Just to add ... I have very strong feelings on the trial, but be aware that there are issues around discussing ongoing trials in the public arena. I think the last thing anyone would want is for the lawyers to say public discussion influenced the jury and request another trial.

From nzherald.co.nz today ...

The Solicitor General's office is investigating whether internet bloggers and social networking sites have breached contempt of court laws in the Sophie Elliott trial.

Several blogs and online forums have raised concerns over whether comments could influence, or prejudge, the current murder trial in Christchurch High Court

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Posted By: Lexidore
Date Posted: 22 July 2009 at 11:47am
GUILTY!! Just read on stuff that he has been found guilty of Murder thank god for that!

I'm guessing its okay to write this now since the trial is over!!

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Posted By: Febgirl
Date Posted: 22 July 2009 at 11:52am
Didn't take the jury very long at all, must have been pretty clear cut.

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Posted By: clover
Date Posted: 22 July 2009 at 12:10pm
thank goodness common sense prevailed, hopefully they get rid of the provocation defense now.

RIP Sophie.

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Posted By: monkey33
Date Posted: 22 July 2009 at 12:42pm
Oh I hadn't seen the verdict yet - I was so hoping this would be the outcome, what great news.

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Posted By: my4beauties
Date Posted: 22 July 2009 at 12:56pm

YAY!!  Justice for Sophie!  Now may that prat rot in jail!!!



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Posted By: LadyBee
Date Posted: 22 July 2009 at 1:25pm
Yay yay yay
I bet that wipes that disgusting smirk off his face!

I hope that Sophies family have a little relief now the verdict is out.
RIP

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Posted By: kiwisj
Date Posted: 22 July 2009 at 1:34pm
RIP Sophie.

So relieved the verdict is guilty. I've been following the news in complete disbelief at some of the CR@P he has come out with. I hope he goes away for a VERY long time.

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Posted By: jaycee
Date Posted: 22 July 2009 at 1:40pm
I heard it whilst I was driving and I was just about in tears I was so relieved. I feel so sad for her Mum and I can not believe that the victim can be treated so badly. It is like she was being violated all over again.

I also have lost all respect for Judith Ablett-Kerr . I used to think that she was quite brilliant and a very talented lawyer but not after this.

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Posted By: mamanee
Date Posted: 22 July 2009 at 1:46pm
Good news! I hope he rots.   That man makes my blood boil as he displays a lot of the personality traits and issues that my ex does and I know he is capable of the same thing.   Horrible horrible man, throw away the key.


Posted By: MamaT
Date Posted: 22 July 2009 at 1:47pm
I am so glad to hear the outcome of this. Now, to see what kind of sentence he gets. I really hope it is a long long time

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Posted By: cuppatea
Date Posted: 22 July 2009 at 1:48pm
Good, I was worried when they didn't find him guilty yesterday that he was gonna get away with it.

I can't believe he thought he would get away with just manslaughter.

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Posted By: lemongirl
Date Posted: 22 July 2009 at 3:04pm
What an amazing woman lesley elliot (sophie's mother) is:

"Lesley Elliott, Sophie's mother, broke down immediately when the verdict was delivered.

She embraced with her husband Gil Elliott and then, surprisingly, with defence counsel Judith Ablett-Kerr QC."

Wow. Don't know if I could have done that.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/news/2661461/Clayton-Weatherston-guilty-of-murder


Posted By: Bobbie
Date Posted: 22 July 2009 at 4:21pm
Originally posted by jaycee jaycee wrote:


I also have lost all respect for Judith Ablett-Kerr . I used to think that she was quite brilliant and a very talented lawyer but not after this.


I think the fact that she's done her best on this case actually proves that she is an amazing lawyer. After all she didn't come up with the ridiculous defence option of 'provocation' - but she is using it correctly. I'm sure she'll be as happy as anyone when the legal system trashes that defence option and she no longer has to defend people using it.

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Posted By: clover
Date Posted: 22 July 2009 at 4:49pm
I agree with Bobbie, she did the job of a defence lawyer very well.

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Posted By: Red
Date Posted: 22 July 2009 at 5:17pm
I am just glad that hopefully we can stop hearing about it on the news and poor Sophie's family can be left to grieve.

He totally crept me out and I really wonder what it was that she saw in him to begin with?

RIP Sophie - he got what he deserved.


Posted By: Bobbie
Date Posted: 22 July 2009 at 6:02pm
OMG I agree - that guy gave off MAJOR creepy vibes. *shudder*

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Posted By: fire_engine
Date Posted: 22 July 2009 at 6:50pm
Judith Ablett Kerr did what lawyers are sworn to do - uphold the law and represent your client to the best of your abilities. I don't know how she (or any defence lawyer of psychopath killers, rapists and pedophiles) sleeps, but she is the person you would want on your side if you were accused of a crime.

Thank goodness they came back with guilty - I was surprised it took that long but that man is seriously ****** in the head.

Sophie's mother must be the most amazing person. Imagine going through what she had to listen to/watch when Sophie was killed, then relive it.

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Posted By: jaycee
Date Posted: 22 July 2009 at 6:57pm
I imagine that the fact that not only was she home when it happened but opened the door to him is a horror that never leaves her for a moment. What a brave lady, my heart hurts for her .

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Posted By: kiwigal
Date Posted: 22 July 2009 at 11:00pm

We need the death penalty as this scum doesn't deserve to live  

 

 



Posted By: fire_engine
Date Posted: 23 July 2009 at 9:59am
I'm sure prison won't be a cushy place for him.

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Posted By: Bobbie
Date Posted: 23 July 2009 at 10:37am
Yeah his attitude is going to get a MAJOR adjustment in prison

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Posted By: clover
Date Posted: 23 July 2009 at 10:48am
I don't know about the death penalty but I certainly don't think our 'life' sentances are long enough. IMO life should mean exactly that.

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Posted By: jazzy
Date Posted: 23 July 2009 at 12:39pm
It is hard to grasp the suffering & pain that Sophie endured, now family & friends on both side have to live with it & rebuild their lives.

I hope the old saying "what goes around comes around" & that he meets a big hairy lad on the inside that tears him up everynight & hands him around to his friends.

RIP Sophie Elliott


Posted By: caitlynsmygirl
Date Posted: 23 July 2009 at 7:45pm
I just hope that now he doesnt have his "audience" because thats how he seemed to view the court , as a stage and the jury and viewers as an audience, he can finally appreciate the magnitude of what he did, and I hope it haunts him .

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Posted By: M2K
Date Posted: 23 July 2009 at 7:57pm
this guy gives me the creeps something wicked... I did see this on stuff.co.nz.... good job too!!

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Murderer Clayton Weatherston has reportedly been moved into at-risk prison unit after a bounty was put on his head.

Weatherston was yesterday convicted of fatally stabbing his former girlfriend Sophie Elliott 216 times.

Two sources told Newstalk ZB Christchurch Men's Prison inmates had taunted Weatherston from the moment he arrived at the prison.

One of the sources said $55,000 had been offered in exchange for Weatherston's "unpleasant death" and that price was expected to reach six figures.

A Corrections spokesperson said the department did not comment on a prisoner's management for safety and security reasons.

All newly sentenced prisoners were managed in accordance with their custodial requirements.

- NZPA



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