Solids and not gaining
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Topic: Solids and not gaining
Posted By: palomino
Subject: Solids and not gaining
Date Posted: 15 July 2009 at 11:50am
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Just been reading through a heap of topics and just wanted to put my story out there and see if anyones been in similar situation.
Brennan was gaining weight rapidly up until about a month ago. He was only having one solid meal from 4mths and he eats about half a can at a time. He eats it, but he doesnt seem to enjoy it or hate it... just so so about it. Anyway just been to get weighed again and hes lost weight. Plunket say try to get more solids into him, and i have been trying and hes now having 2 meals a day. Is part of the problem the fact that he loves his boobie and will happily feed in the mornings for 45mins and thats filling him up? Sorry for the novel, i guess im just wondering how much your 7mth olds are eating (meal wise, and how much time at the breast?) TIA :) |
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Posted By: noodle
Date Posted: 15 July 2009 at 12:20pm
Hi chick, Rory has 4-5 boob feeds a day and feeds for about 10-15mins thats both sides and has a big breakfast lunch and dinner, he loves his food. some babies are big eaters and some are smaller ones i guess  sorry cant give you any answers but just thoght i'd let you know what R does.....will be intresting to see the amount others eat coz i think R is a big eater.------------- http://lilypie.com"> 
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Posted By: emz
Date Posted: 15 July 2009 at 2:43pm
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I think its quite common for the weight to drop, or plateau when solids are getting established (ie moving onto solids as the main food source - so between the 4-8 month mark). I know that was the case with Jack and they said it was normal.
Maybe limit his time at the boob to no more than say 20 minutes (total) and see if it makes a difference in his solid intake. After a week or two at 2 meals a day, he may even want three, some kids just crave it! But if you think he's filling himself up on milk then limit it a bit more for that morning/morning tea one and see if his lunch solids meal becomes more appealing to him. |
Posted By: mumtooboys
Date Posted: 18 July 2009 at 12:09pm
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Hi,
Solids have nowhere near as many calories as BM or formula see ; with DS2 the more solids he ate the less weight he gained..not that I could get Plunket to understand that! Solids are supposed to be about tastes and textures and milk is supposed to be their main source of nutrition into at least 9 months. Solids at this age are NOT about replacing milk feeds. I did an experiment and found that if I gave him MORE boob and less solids he gained heaps better; and when he didn't, he got longer and/or his head got bigger. Some babies are just small....wish people would stop worrying about how much kids weigh all the time, there are better ways to tell if they are growing than how much they weigh (or don't weigh as the case may be). Has he been ill recently? BF babies tend to plateau in weight gain at around 4 months. My plunket nurse flipped out bc Alex had basically stayed the same one month and when I challenged her she hen proceeded to tell me he'd lost lost 50gm in a month....like 50gm is the end of the earth! They're not machines, they aren't gaining weight every week, let alone every day and the average bf baby "only" gains between 50-80gms a week from 6-12 months anyway. Watch Brennan not the scales; I stopped going to Plunket 6.5 months ago bc they just wouldn't get off my back about how much he didn't weigh....and funnily enough, in that time he's gained a whopping 4.9kg! Rant over............. To answer your question, Alex had just started solids at 7 months, but even when he was only just on 3 meals at 10 months he was still being fed on demand and having as many as 6-8bf a day for as long as he wanted, usually about 10 minutes a side tops. He was having about 2tbsps max per meal at 10 months and when he first started he wasn't even having them everyday. http://www.kellymom.com/nutrition/vitamins/babyfoodcalories.html - This talks about some of the calorie and fat content of common first foods, it's kind of scary actually. The only thing we found that "put weight on" him was avocado as it has more fat than even BM, but it's good fat. ------------- http://lilypie.com"> 
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Posted By: palomino
Date Posted: 28 October 2009 at 12:51pm
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Still having issues, we have an appointment tomorrow, he is eating more than ever now but hasnt put on any weight, hes the exact same weight as a month ago, to the gram.
:( feel like im failing. Im feeding him so much and im getting asked if im not feeding him etc. :( |
Posted By: peanut butter
Date Posted: 28 October 2009 at 12:58pm
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What is his weight? James is a porker but also had a drop around 8 months and has picked back up. He was very reluctant to get into solids and LOVES his boob......we are just starting to take off with solids now. One thing I am changing is his meal times. I am making them earlier as I think his last meal was too late and he was knackered. I would often give up half way through and think "I'll just give him boob" but then he would be full from solids and not interested. Now the plan is to feed him at 4.30 and then boob at 6.30. Fingers crossed it will work!
Try not to get too worried, I am sure he is not wasting away. |
Posted By: palomino
Date Posted: 28 October 2009 at 1:02pm
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Hes 8.5kgs, so hes not too small, they just getting all worried because thats what he was last month, and then before that 8.4kgs for a month.
He loves his boob more than food, but is really getting into his finger food and feeding himself so i really thought he would have put something on this month. But yea i know what you mean, i probably havent been trying because i know its just going to get thrown off the chair so just give boob. Maybe its cos hes just discovered standing up and cruising hes using it all up discovering. |
Posted By: peanut butter
Date Posted: 28 October 2009 at 1:09pm
I wouldnt be worried at all grrrr at plunket for making mums worry. its normal to lose weught when they start moving, James is trimming down heaps. He prefers finger food but most of it ends up between his legs. I'm making an effort to give him "dessert" like custard or yoghurt to help fill him up more
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Posted By: Mamma2N
Date Posted: 28 October 2009 at 1:22pm
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HUNTD I agree with mumtooboys and nzpiper - I really don't think you have much to worry about. DDis 7mths, demand BF (so easily 6-8 feeds during the day) 3 meals but we're doing BLW so I can't exactly tell 'how much' she is actually eating. Sometimes she seems to eat alot, then other days she doesn't want of bar of it! I would think also at this age our babies are becoming alot more active so not gaining alot, or even losing a bit of weight.
Many PNurses are unfortunetly obsessed with babies weight gains which is silly. If he loves boobie more than solids at this stage I see no problem with it. And yes, Grrrrr at your PNurse! ETA go the finger food! We have lots of fun with them here - not always consumed, but its all about taste & texture anyway! |
Posted By: palomino
Date Posted: 28 October 2009 at 1:25pm
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Doesnt help that im a big worry wart at the best of times. Im pretty sure my gp will say hes fine.
Thanks for your words of wisdom, just stressed out and this didnt help |
Posted By: cuppatea
Date Posted: 28 October 2009 at 3:05pm
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Often plunket refer mums for things like this and the Drs say all is well, a lot of the time plunket just need to *just in case* as the charts are there to help flag up potential problems, I expect though as he is being very active that is probably why he hasn't put any on and you will probably find that next month he will have a spurt now that he is into his finger food.
One thing I am trying to do with Kyle is offer him a snack food instead of a snack boob to get him through to the next feed. He is a boobie monster too and sometimes for my own convenience I just shove him on instead of making him something to eat or if I am disorganised at dinner time he ends up having booby first then not wanting his dinner cos it is too late and he is full of milk. ------------- 
 
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Posted By: LG
Date Posted: 28 October 2009 at 3:38pm
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We had pretty much the same thing with kaelin (not gaining anything & still being monitored monthly by plunket), it is stressful especially when they start questioning you about how much/often your feeding them!
Kaelin doesn't eat a lot at each meal (1/2 a can would be the most shes ever done) so i let her snack a lot on bits of fruit or crackers or anything she can feed herself (would rather feed herself then let me do it). Sorry i dont have any advice but just wanted to let you know you're not alone -------------  Angel Baby Aug '12, Feb '13 |
Posted By: Bizzy
Date Posted: 28 October 2009 at 3:40pm
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dont forget too that there are other indicators of growth other than weight... has he grown in length for instance.? i too agree with mumtooboys. ------------- http://www.myfitnesspal.com/weight-loss-ticker"> 
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Posted By: AandCsmum
Date Posted: 29 October 2009 at 12:03pm
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Try spacing out the time between boob & meals. So boob & then an hour later his solids.
Also from 8 months old start doing the switch around. Cooper has only really liked solids since I started putting them first. ------------- Kel http://lilypie.com"> 
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Posted By: kellie
Date Posted: 29 October 2009 at 12:39pm
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Hey I am not much help, but just thought I would add that Sirius was 8.81 at his 7month check, and 8.96 at his 9month one! I was stressing about it too as he wasn't really that interested in eating. He seems totally healthy though so I will just go on that :) ------------- 
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Posted By: palomino
Date Posted: 29 October 2009 at 1:11pm
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Doctor said pretty much the same, hes happy, growing in height, got fatty arms and legs. got to weigh again in a month and if its still the same then run some tests
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Posted By: palomino
Date Posted: 12 November 2009 at 4:06pm
| Todays update. Been doing formula feeds as well as boob, eating like a horse and he lost 200gms this week so got to go for tests tomorrow. :( |
Posted By: flakesitchyfeet
Date Posted: 12 November 2009 at 5:38pm
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Posted By: fire_engine
Date Posted: 12 November 2009 at 7:34pm
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I've been in your shoes and know what it's like. Hopefully the tests will all come up good BUT, I'm also glad your GP is investigating to make sure there's nothing else going on ------------- Mum to two wee boys |
Posted By: BeLoved
Date Posted: 12 November 2009 at 8:10pm
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All the best for the tests tomorrow. I will be thinking of you & Brennan! |
Posted By: palomino
Date Posted: 26 November 2009 at 1:46pm
| Just when i had pretty much given up he goes and gains 500gms in 10days. YAY! Tests were all clear, no allergies to gluten or anything so that was a relief anyway. |
Posted By: WestiesGirl
Date Posted: 26 November 2009 at 3:14pm
Thats fantastic news  And what a great gain too. Well done Brennan  ------------- Our Angel July 08  Gone but not forgotten
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Posted By: Raspberryjam
Date Posted: 26 November 2009 at 10:28pm
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Have just been reading through this post and plunket smunket - at least him having a gain will stop them pestering you. My little girl didnt gain for about a month after starting solids, and then again once she was on the move and then again once walking.
The important thing is he isnt loosing loads and isnt refusing food and isnt sickly with it in any other way. I have a sick child and i have had plunket tell me all sorts of rubbish, including she shouldnt be going to bed until 8pm and that its ok to add salt to her food (she has a heart condition!) He looks a very well babe to me and good on you mum for making him that way Keep up the good work if whatever your doing works for both of you ------------- http://lilypie.com] 
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Posted By: palomino
Date Posted: 27 November 2009 at 7:35am
| Aw thanks for all the kind words. Im on cloud 9 at the moment. I just hope we keeps up this awesome gaining, although it was great having a 'wee' baby for a little bit longer lol |
Posted By: KiwiL
Date Posted: 29 November 2009 at 8:27am
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HUNTD, I know just how you feel. The worry can be a bit overwhelming and then a good gain just relaxes you a bit. I am sure your little boy will be fine in the long run, just like mine will.
And yes, having a wee babe is quite cool when they grow so quickly. I keep telling myself to enjoy the fact that he's tiny, as he'll be big for a long time! |