How much to charge?
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Topic: How much to charge?
Posted By: Snappy
Subject: How much to charge?
Date Posted: 02 September 2009 at 12:57pm
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Me again! Second time asking this!
I have been asked by a school principal to teach intermediate children photography - just for a month one afternoon a week. He said to name my price.. What would be a reasonable amount to charge? He wants me to give them homework every week and mark them etc. Help? 
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Posted By: Katep
Date Posted: 02 September 2009 at 1:06pm
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I would say use the teacher aide pay as a guideline- probably a bit more to what they earn as you are preparing lessons, homework and marking. I *think* teachers aides earn between $13-20ish dollars an hour.
However if it is for one avo a week for a month - $80 doesn't seem like much.... ------------- http://lilypie.com"> 
Mum to the Gorgeous Leah! 7 months |
Posted By: Bombshell
Date Posted: 02 September 2009 at 1:35pm
| why dont you ask some of the people who go into schools (music etc etc) what they charge etc to get an idea - you dont want to undersell but you dont want to scare them off... |
Posted By: jazzy
Date Posted: 02 September 2009 at 1:53pm
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I would set a session amount.
You need to work out how many hrs you are doing it, add on the homework marking & setting time. Are you making certificates for the kids? or info books etc, if you are you need to factor in material costs also. What about $150 a session. Don't forget tax. You need to make it worth your while, but don't over charge & don't under charge. See what the going rate for tutors are. It is only 4 times you are doing this, but it may lead to other things. |
Posted By: Snappy
Date Posted: 02 September 2009 at 2:01pm
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Thanks ladies.
This is the second time they've approached me, first time was actual photography work for the school. So they've come back after last time - yay! |
Posted By: clover
Date Posted: 02 September 2009 at 2:23pm
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I think $150 a session sounds reasonable. ------------- http://lilypie.com"> 
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Posted By: lizzle
Date Posted: 02 September 2009 at 6:19pm
| also depends whether you will be by yourself or with a qualified teacher. if you are by yourself, you will have behaviour management stuff too - so up the [price! |
Posted By: Katep
Date Posted: 02 September 2009 at 6:42pm
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I can't imagine a school being able to fork out the much money.
Will the children be paying or is it coming from the school budget? ------------- http://lilypie.com">
Mum to the Gorgeous Leah! 7 months |
Posted By: Snappy
Date Posted: 03 September 2009 at 9:12am
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Yeah I will be by myself. He called yesterday and just wants 6 children (who will be selected) to learn - they have some event coming up and want a few students to be able to use the school cameras.
He also wants a manual and some sort of workbook. It's from the schools budget - he says they "allow" for these sorts of things during the year. An old school friend of mine was in there a few years ago teaching music to the kids. When I did some photography work last time, he never even asked me how much I had charged them, he just said "I hope you have your invoice with you - these are great etc.. Go and take it to the office and they will pay you asap". Really hard! |
Posted By: jazzy
Date Posted: 03 September 2009 at 10:06am
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Don't forget that those 6 kids may end up teaching other kids so I would not worry about the size of the class.
But if that is an issue charge per child. You will end up doing a lot of this in your own time, as you need to do a manual etc. Most schools do put money aside for extras like this, and they may even open it up to parents paying for it. You may want to sit down and talk to him about it, remember he is hoping by not giving you a figure you will come in under his offer. How much would a professional charge??? way to much for them. |
Posted By: kiwisj
Date Posted: 03 September 2009 at 10:50pm
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I think $150 per session is really reasonable - is that what you would charge for the session regardless of how many kids? Is it only one hour? Or more? Plus you have the extra work at home too, and materials (if they haven't suggested it already, I would make one manual and ask them to make copies for the kids attending so it's not a big cost to you). Also, don't forget, if it is only for one hour you kinda have to factor in your travel time/hassle as well because otherwise it's not really worth your while going in for such a short time IYKWIM.
Don't sell yourself short! It's great they want you back, they obviously think you're great. ------------- SJ Callum - Dec 2008 Daniel - Oct 2010 |
Posted By: Jam08
Date Posted: 04 September 2009 at 8:51am
| Everyone has made valid points about time/travel/marking/material costs etc. Just be aware that I'm pretty sure a qualified teacher wouldn't get $150 for an hour of teaching. |
Posted By: Katep
Date Posted: 04 September 2009 at 8:54am
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Nope...more like $150 per day and we do a heck of a lot outside working hours... ------------- http://lilypie.com">
Mum to the Gorgeous Leah! 7 months |
Posted By: Snappy
Date Posted: 04 September 2009 at 10:00am
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Thanks so much ladies.
Although $150 would be nice in my pocket, I don't feel I could charge that much. When I did some photography work for them I only charged them $160, that was for 2 hours of work, plus processing/photoshop work. They also got all photos on a disc and used them in their newsletter, as well as giving them to the newspaper. I have been researching on the net, the community education teachers get $40 per hour, so I think if i based my fees on that, I thought perhaps $275 for 5 sessions (they've asked me to do an extra one) Would that be reasonable? |
Posted By: Tastic
Date Posted: 04 September 2009 at 1:13pm
| if your not worried about the money really then $275 is a good amount however I think for you services on the day, then homework/marking etc you should look at about $75 per day so $375 for the 5 sessions - and that extra $100 will cover homework etc |
Posted By: tishy
Date Posted: 04 September 2009 at 2:21pm
If you mean a qualified teacher who is working full time then probably not as they are on a salary. What Kaiz would be doing is contracting and Contractors always earn much more than the salary earner. I agree with Tastic, $75 per session sounds good to me. |
Jojo8 wrote:Posted By: caliandjack
Date Posted: 04 September 2009 at 4:23pm
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$275-375 sounds like a reasonable amount.
My FIL teaches photography at Hutt Valley High I can ask what he charges if you like? Baring in mind the school pays his salary as a night school teacher and then the students pay an enrolment fee. Part of which goes to the school and part to the tutor. Personally I think $275 for 5 sessions is low, considering a wedding photographer will charge $500 for 4 hours work and a CD with no extras, and that's just for turning up. $150 an hour for everything you are doing sounds reasonable, thats only $25 per child to learn photography I'd happily pay that. ------------- http://lilypie.com" rel="nofollow">   [/url] Angel June 2012 |
Posted By: jazzy
Date Posted: 04 September 2009 at 4:32pm
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$75 a session for 4 sessions & tax on top how much will you have at the end of it? approx. $240, so about $60 a session it works out to. How many Hours are the sessions, & how much extra time do you have to put into it, with planning & marking & writing up a manuel?
I stick with my $150 after all you are contraction out your time & skills......do you have to arrange childcare? Which gives you $486 approx |
Posted By: Jam08
Date Posted: 04 September 2009 at 5:22pm
Just wanted to clairfy what I meant above. A qualified teacher who wasn't currently employed on a salary and was only relieving in a class for an hour an afternoon wouldn't earn anywhere near $150. Relieving pay is similar to contract work in the sense that holiday pay is catered for within the pay. Not saying that you don't deserve that at all Kaiz just letting you know as it may help you with your decision on how much to charge. |
Posted By: Gaelic Lass
Date Posted: 04 September 2009 at 9:48pm
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Jojo8 - i think it depends on the "nature" of the contract work - to set the amount. Media type stuff you could charge $150 a session. Relief work is a bit different - you turn up - you get given what to teach - and generally deal with student management. Kaiz's position would be a little more "specialist". 
Kaiz - I think $150 a session is fair - don't sell yourself too short!! With freelancing - you'll be amazed at the prep time you put in to do such "specialist" lessons. I'm a media/drama teacher (was on maternity leave and now off for another year looking after two small kids at home)and my school asked me to come in and photograph a special event they were having and I got paid $300 for around 3 hrs work at the venue. As a freelance media tutor I would charge $80 minimum for 1-2 students - in media that is pretty fair. Schools do have funds for "special" things such as these - am sure cos it is a one off they should be ok with it. ------------- 
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Posted By: E&L+1
Date Posted: 05 September 2009 at 3:12pm
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I'm a teacher and if I was relieving I would get around $200 in the hand per day but I would expect more if I was teaching a specialist subject like yours. I was looking at providing Professional Development for teachers and would be charging about $250 for half a day, and thats with no homework or marking to do.
If we go on a trip then it usually costs anywhere beteen $4 and $15 per child depending on what they are learning about (not inluding transport). Music lessons are usually betweet $20-$40 if they are in school per child, depending on the subsidy/instrument. Next term our kids are going to swimming which will cost about $20 per child for 5 sessions including transport. I would be looking at charging $20-30 per child per session, as you will be doing a lot of prep by the sounds and will need to factor in that time which will probably be about an hour per session if you are giving homework etc. The school will soon say if it is too much for them to pay. Hope this gives you something to compare to 
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Posted By: Snappy
Date Posted: 05 September 2009 at 6:09pm
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Wow thanks so much for your replies ladies!
I guess I just dont feel that comfortable, I am in no way or form a professional so I just feel a bit "stink". Its basicly just a hobby to me and Im not very good ! I really appreciate your comments - its been very helpful! |
Posted By: tishy
Date Posted: 05 September 2009 at 7:04pm
Ppfft to that! I've seen your photos on FB 
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