any1 got a dogue de bordeaux???
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Topic: any1 got a dogue de bordeaux???
Posted By: BaAsKa
Subject: any1 got a dogue de bordeaux???
Date Posted: 13 October 2009 at 1:02pm
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sorry this isnt kids related but figured im highly likely to find answers here as google doesnt seem to want to help!..
So i want to hear from anyone who owns/has owned/knows anything about the breed 'dogue de bordeaux'.. Im thinking of getting one and want to know.. * how much they eat? * do the have any health problems with that breed? (other than hip displacia) * whats the deal with the twisted stomach thing i read on google??? google says that you cant take these dogs for walks until after 1yr old because the exaustion will cause the twisted stomach!!?? seems a bit excessive to me!.. any info welcome!.. TIA 
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Posted By: BugTeeny
Date Posted: 13 October 2009 at 1:36pm
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Hey Amber
I don't know anything about them, but they're gorgeous and I'll be jealous if you get one 
When we got our dog (a Dalmatian), we approached a few different breeders for advice and info, and spoke to our local vet. http://www.dogzonline.co.nz/breeds/breeders/dogue-de-bordeaux.asp - This site is really useful. Good luck!
*edited to fix link ------------- 
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Posted By: BaAsKa
Date Posted: 13 October 2009 at 1:49pm
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hehe i told my DH that i wanted a dog of my own (our other 2 are his hunting dogs) maybe a "HANDBAG" dog...so i thought of this dog! lol...probably wont even fit in my house! littlelone my handbag! lol
they sure are gorgous!!! slobber and all!!!.. |
Posted By: High9
Date Posted: 13 October 2009 at 2:17pm
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Try the NZ Kennel Club website, you can google them and they have information on dog breeds, you can also try wikipedia...
http://www.nzkc.org.nz/br629.html - NZ Kennel Club Dogue De Bordeaux breed sheet http://www.doguedebordeauxclub.co.uk/ - Dogue De Bordeaux Club http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dogue_de_Bordeaux - Wikipedia Dogue De Bordeaux ------------- http://lilypie.com"> 
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Posted By: cuppatea
Date Posted: 13 October 2009 at 2:21pm
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Look up nzkc.co.nz, they have info on breeds and also registered breeders. Definitely talk to your vet, if nothing else they will tell you which breeders not to buy from, do not buy one from a pet shop, unless you want a puppy with behavioural issues.
Dogs can get bloat from being exercised after eating, not sure if that is what is meant by twisted stomach. Dogs breeds with hip dysplasia you are often advised not to exercise too much when they are pups, and in some cases to not even allow them to climb stairs etc so that is all something to think about too. The only other thing I would suggest is that if you do get one you attend puppy/dog training (again talk to vets to get a recommendation) cos you want to make sure you have a dog that size under total control ------------- 
 
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Posted By: High9
Date Posted: 13 October 2009 at 2:21pm
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Forgot to add breeders are the best people to talk to, esp if you are buying from a breeder as they can give you insight into what the dog personality type will be like if you are buying a puppy, sometimes you can get older dogs from them too, but they can answer any question you have on the breed! You can find breeders on the NZ Kennel Club website.
I used them when I got my Chihuahua, spoke to a few breeders and eventually got an older Chihuahua (3yrs) for $600 as opposed to $1200 for a puppy!! GL!! ------------- http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: BaAsKa
Date Posted: 13 October 2009 at 5:37pm
iv found a breeder on TM thats selling them at a reasonable price and i asked him a few questions but i think he thought i was a drongo! lol - i wanted to know if the girl DDBs are very big like all the males seem to be (bcos the mother of the pups looks so small!)...didnt really get a straight answer!
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Posted By: High9
Date Posted: 13 October 2009 at 7:06pm
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Generally they breed the males smaller than the females so they can carry the pups without any problems like having to get intervention from a vet when they give birth.
You're probably best talking to a breeder through the kennel club or a vet. ------------- http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: cuppatea
Date Posted: 13 October 2009 at 7:52pm
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Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, I'm not sure how many good breeders sell there dogs through trademe, there might be some but hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm I wouldn't go there personally. -------------
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Posted By: palomino
Date Posted: 13 October 2009 at 8:20pm
| Yea and if its for a 'good price' theres probably a reason. It may be just simply not a show quality dog, but it could be something more major. |
Posted By: BaAsKa
Date Posted: 13 October 2009 at 9:13pm
they are not purebred - the father is purebred DDB and mother is purebred bullmastiff so not perfect show quality...sorry shouldv mentioned that before they have had few litters and all puppies look like the father so i dont mind....i want DDB. The purebreeds are almost 2k!!!!
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Posted By: High9
Date Posted: 13 October 2009 at 9:22pm
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Yeah umm mix breeds are sometimes better that purebreeds in terms of health, But size could go either way, everyone says look at paw size "big paws = big dog" not sure how accurate it is though...!!
Are you going to get a puppy or a adult dog?? Adult dogs can come trained and are often cheaper, but puppies are reaaaallly cuuute!! ------------- http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: BaAsKa
Date Posted: 14 October 2009 at 9:43am
| I'm going to get a puppy. the breeder said that these pups have broad chests a large paws so i guess that's a good sign! |
Posted By: High9
Date Posted: 14 October 2009 at 1:04pm
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Oh neat! ------------- http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: clover
Date Posted: 14 October 2009 at 1:52pm
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Just be safe, remember the people on trademe and the likes who thought they were buying dogs and they were actually paying scammers in Africa and the dogs didn't exist. Can you visit the breader to check them out and pay him there and then? ------------- http://lilypie.com"> 
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Posted By: BaAsKa
Date Posted: 14 October 2009 at 2:07pm
| yip they are an hour away from me and you view the dogs to choose then pay cash |
Posted By: AandCsmum
Date Posted: 14 October 2009 at 5:32pm
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Amber, puppy's feet do not have any significance on the size they will get.
I have bullmastiffs & depending on what breed lines they come from absolutely rate them for kids. I would imagine it is the same as the DDB. My suggestion is to visit the parents, see what they are like temperament wise. Remember that they can & more than likely will be a big dog. If you see any timidness or agression other than normal guard dog agression I'd give them a wide berth. Also see if you can meet any of the prior puppies. Nicole, not all mixes are healthy. If you mix a dog like a DDB with a BM as the pups that Amber is looking at. They might both still have hip displasia or what ever & with genetics there is a high chance those pups will still end up with the same problems. Also not sure what you mean by breeding the males smaller than the females. None that I have seen have been this way. Also I've heard that a purebred DDB is around 2.5k!!! But I guess in that the breeder will have researched their pedigrees & know what is lurking behind health wise, they will have also more than likely hip scored them to see if they have bad hips. But also bear in mind that HD is also somewhat cause by the environment. With a DDB & a DDB Cross they are big dogs & their bones & joints are quite soft for the growth they go through & the weight they will gain. It is definitely recommended not to take them for huge walks & mainly let them self exercise until around 12 to 18 months. & I must say OMG they eat a huge amount in the first year! Plus also be aware that as a big dog all vet bills are BIG. Oh my suggestion is to go to the dogsonline website & look at the dogs on the australian site. Look at their website & they should have breed issues on there. ------------- Kel http://lilypie.com"> 
A = 01.02.04 & C = 16.01.09 & G = 30.03.12 |
Posted By: High9
Date Posted: 14 October 2009 at 5:50pm
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Aliasmum, I know not all mixes are healthy, but in some mixes certain health problems can be eliminated. But if things like hip displasia runs in both breeds then it may not get eliminated. Also depends on what breed it mostly takes after.
With the sizes of females and males, I believe it is smaller dogs where they breed the males a bit smaller than the females, not sure if they do it in big dogs or not. I only know this because grandparents used to breed dogs and we've only ever had purebred dogs. I second summerlamb on the whole be careful buying on trademe, there was a thing on fairgo and closeup about people who got ripped off over buying animals. Just offering what I know, you don't have to take note! ------------- http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: AandCsmum
Date Posted: 14 October 2009 at 7:31pm
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Ahh ok Nicole didn't know that re size in little dogs but then I have big dogs
Actually there is a 6-7yo bullmastiff (purebred) & a possible 3 yo american bulldog for rehome in the Franklin pound. Anyone interested PM with your email & I can email you details & pictures. ------------- Kel http://lilypie.com">
A = 01.02.04 & C = 16.01.09 & G = 30.03.12 |
Posted By: BaAsKa
Date Posted: 15 October 2009 at 12:58pm
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oh i missed that fairgo...what was it about??
awsome thanks Kel!! they say the parents a very layed back and good with kids but as you say i best check for myself!. They have both parents and 1 male pup from old litter. most of the DDBs on TM are around $1k to $2k but they are purebred with papers etc....i just want a pet (not for breeding, as long as it looks like a DDB lol) and have always loved the BM and DDB they are GORGOUS!!!!! 
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Posted By: High9
Date Posted: 15 October 2009 at 9:27pm
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I can't remember when it screened and I'm not sure if it was fairgo, closeup or 60 mins but it was basically people were buying pets on TM and other sites where you can buy pets online and the pets didn't exist, were stolen or the pets looked nothing like the picture (they were sickly/in poor condition).
However the one where it looked nothing like the picture or description given was a horse. When you get yours, you could talk to the breeder/person you're buying from about taking the dog home for a week and seeing how everything goes and if it's the dog for you - if not you get your money back and they get the puppy back, and they'll know it's going to a good home! ------------- http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: Anyuta
Date Posted: 24 October 2009 at 10:45pm
I had dog de bordeaux, he passed away last year because of kidney failure, he was 8 years old, this is an average life expectancy for this breed so unfortunately they don't live long. Apart from this very beautiful and smart dog
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