Choking - What to feed?
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Topic: Choking - What to feed?
Posted By: monikah
Subject: Choking - What to feed?
Date Posted: 05 January 2010 at 5:59pm
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my baby is nearly 8 months old and chokes quite a bit. he cant go near toast, or banana (unless really mashed), grated cheese and everything else plunket reckons babies should be able to eat from 7 months. his dinner is still really mashed up with small lumps in it, but 2nite he somehow even managed to choke on that. not the normal choke then smack on the back type choking, but he couldnt get it up, turned purple choking. he was purple for ages and i finally managed to get him to hack it up my tipping him dam near upside down face to the ground and absolutely whacking him on the back. im bloody surprised he isnt hurt from it to be honest. but the food he has was hardly lumpy at all! i dont know what to do with him or what to feed him,
he has weetbix mushed with warm water for bfast and at the moment mashed banana with yogurt mixed in for lunch. i really dont wanna resort to jar food as i have made his food from scrach since he started solids but i dont know what to feed him anymore, he just cant seem eat it. do i need to get him checked out since he cant eat normal food or do i just get jar food stage 2 for a while? please help, i cant cope with him turning purple again, its horrible and i dont want him living off sweet stuff like fruits for every meal which puree easily ------------- 
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Posted By: skp
Date Posted: 05 January 2010 at 6:10pm
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HI ya, sorry not much help probably but we are doing baby lead weaning (google if you haven't heard of it, I'm not great at explaining it), I haven't pureed anything and our girl did choke a bit for the first week or so but doesn't very often now and she eats 'big people' food (with no teeth) I suppose she just figured it out with experience, how long has he been on solids? maybe look into the BLW theory cause they aren't supposed to choke if they put it into their own mouth rather than being spoon fed ------------- http://lilypie.com"> 
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Posted By: mummyofprinces
Date Posted: 05 January 2010 at 6:15pm
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Mon I would be inclined to take him to the GP... Could there be an obstruction? Jake was referred to a paed due to his gagging as they thought he might have webbing across his throat and the paed said unless he turns blue its not of concern. So based on that I would be taking him in.
Jake would gag on lumpy food and milk/food coming back up but he didnt choke to that extent. He went through a phase where jar food was all he would eat (to my dismay). -------------   
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Posted By: monikah
Date Posted: 05 January 2010 at 6:19pm
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yea my sis said take him to the doctor too :( i have heard that reflux babies are normally a bit slower to move up the food levels but his throat actually jusy cant seem to get stuff down. we feed him the same as us but mushed but even that isnt good enough. its like he just cant really eat solids at all unless they are more like thick liquid -------------
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Posted By: mummyofprinces
Date Posted: 05 January 2010 at 6:25pm
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I do think you should. Choking and turning blue is something to be investigated. Rather you check it out and it be nothing than leave it and it be something! -------------
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Posted By: Flutterby
Date Posted: 05 January 2010 at 6:25pm
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We are doing BLW as well. At the start DS often got things stuck in his throat but he would always manage to cough it back up. Only once has he actually choked on a piece of courgette and even then he managed to cough it up after a few secs. I would highly reccommend BLW.
But apart from that I would say take him to the doc just incase it is something. Better to be safe then sorry. ------------- http://lilypie.com">  http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: flakesitchyfeet
Date Posted: 05 January 2010 at 6:51pm
Doctor for sure. At least then you know where you stand! And I'm a BLW fan too, Hollie point blank stopped eating any food so with advice from people on here I gave it a go and now she eats anything and everything thats put in front of her with no issues 
Best of luck! -------------  http://lilypie.com"> |
Posted By: mummyofprinces
Date Posted: 05 January 2010 at 6:58pm
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same with jake, he eats like a trooper now he eats big boy food. everyone is amazed at how well he chews without teeth.... -------------
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Posted By: monikah
Date Posted: 05 January 2010 at 7:05pm
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yea, im not against the BLW stuff but unfortunitely he chokes even when he feeds himself. and its not cough up type choke it is more a 'i need to intervene right now' kind of choke. if it was more of a gag type thing that would be a different story but it seems to get itself lodged in the fair and square. mack doesnt have a choice but to eat what we do, we dont belive in special foods for babies and stuff and i hate the thought of letting him near anything in a packet (no offence anyone) if he wont eat what he is given he goes without, i know thats probably mean but im not having a fussy baby who only eats kiddy food like fish fingers and stuff (once again no offence) i just wish i didnt have to have a heart attack everytime either me or him puts food in his mouth waiting to see if he is going to breathe or not -------------
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Posted By: peanut butter
Date Posted: 05 January 2010 at 7:31pm
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I was going to ask if he was choking or just gagging as gagging is ok and normal...but turning purple doesnt sound like something I'd be happy with. Get him checked out just to be sure.
If it makes you feel better....James was really slow to start on his solids....and now eats everything and anything! still gags.....and then spits up something the little monkey had earlier (he stores it in his cheeks)...but did choke for the first time last night and I had to whack his bag to get it up....it is scary. |
Posted By: skp
Date Posted: 05 January 2010 at 7:38pm
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sorry just re-read your post, I think getting it checked would be a good idea - our DD never went blue, once was kinda really choking but it didn't take much force to get the food up.
Better to put your mind at ease and get him checked ------------- http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: fire_engine
Date Posted: 05 January 2010 at 8:14pm
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I'd definitely be getting him checked to make sure there's nothing going on medically. The reflux can impact on eating and your GP can look at that and/or refer you to a paed if needed. ------------- Mum to two wee boys |
Posted By: mummyofprinces
Date Posted: 05 January 2010 at 8:50pm
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Further to what flissty said it did occur to me that as the food is coming back up and you are putting more food in the two are meeting iygwim....
let us know how you get on hun. -------------
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Posted By: AandCsmum
Date Posted: 05 January 2010 at 10:20pm
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I was going ask if he has reflux as my friends DD does this (at a year) and we are wondering if she has reflux. She's been better since eliminating dairy so maybe that is an option?
But definitely see if you can get referred to a ENT specialist ------------- Kel http://lilypie.com"> 
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Posted By: Shezamumof3
Date Posted: 05 January 2010 at 11:15pm
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Id get definitely get him checked out too, and Id stay away from that BLW if he is choking on even slightly lumpy food. ------------- |
Posted By: Bizzy
Date Posted: 06 January 2010 at 10:24am
i would agree about getting him checked if you are worried about it.. but would disagree about the BLW - the baby controls how much they put into their mouth and is prob less likely to choke than if someone is pushing food into them that they arent ready for or dont want. a baby will feel the food with their mouth and tongue and learn to push to the back of their mouth but if being spoon fed they dont always get that chance as the food can be pushed to the back of their mouth for them. ------------- http://www.myfitnesspal.com/weight-loss-ticker"> 
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Sheza wrote:Posted By: Shezamumof3
Date Posted: 06 January 2010 at 2:06pm
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Thats true deb ------------- |
Posted By: monikah
Date Posted: 06 January 2010 at 2:13pm
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he does feed himself as well. first thing he choked on was banana he fed himself. doesnt make a difference :s -------------
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Posted By: Bizzy
Date Posted: 06 January 2010 at 2:48pm
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if its definitley choking and turning blue every time and not just gagging then take him to the doc. ------------- http://www.myfitnesspal.com/weight-loss-ticker">
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Posted By: kiwisj
Date Posted: 06 January 2010 at 5:05pm
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I'm with the others on this one hun, if he's turning blue and needs your help then I'd be off to the doctor.
How bad was his reflux, does he still get it/is he still on medication? ------------- SJ Callum - Dec 2008 Daniel - Oct 2010 |
Posted By: monikah
Date Posted: 06 January 2010 at 8:07pm
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doctor is closed so will have to wait til monday. his reflux isnt too bad i dont think. he was only on meds for the pain cos it was burning his throat but he has never been a power chucker and doesnt cause him any pain so took him off the ranitadine at about 5 months with no problems. he is on thickened formula and always has been, he still spills alot after every feed even if it is hours after. he never coughs the food up on his own, we dont normally have him so bad we have to tip him upside down and whack it out but we often have to give him a few pretty hard smacks on the back to get it back up. he still spills water if you try give it to him. ummm, cant think of what else. what could possibly be wrong that would casue that though. its really annoying. i never wanted to have him eating different food from us but its just too horrible trying to give him anything else cos you are on the edge of your seat the whole time. ive put him on jar food for a few days to see what happens and im only using stage 2 cos he has never choked on that, its the only way to keep me from being really freaked out. im still giving him weetbix and yogurt/banana and other adult food. just not dinner cos i want him eating veggies like we do -------------
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Posted By: fire_engine
Date Posted: 06 January 2010 at 8:18pm
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At this point, I'd say do what you need to do till you get him checked out. Give him what he can handle, don't worry about eating like you do - it will come. It might come soon or it might take a bit longer but at the moment, go with what he's telling you.
In terms of the choking, it may be a developmental/behavioural thing, possibly related to the reflux, or there may be a medical/anatomical reason. I don't know enough about kids swallowing to go into more detail, and even if I did, it should be something your GP or a paeds feeding specialist discussed with you when they'd seen Mack. Good luck. TBH, I would ring Healthline and talk to them - I know it's been happening for a while but I would be reluctant to wait till Monday without talking to a health professional. ------------- Mum to two wee boys |
Posted By: LittleBug
Date Posted: 06 January 2010 at 10:47pm
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Chloe just choked and gagged on every single thing that wasn't smoothly pureed until about ten months. It wasn't until about a year that she was eating toast and lumpy things like all the other kids. But she only turned blue once, normally she would bring up the lump of food (and everything else too) - this was just about every meal! She had a mega gag reflex.
But if he is turning blue/purple and you are that worried about him, then I would definitely be talking to the Dr. It doesn't sound like normal gagging on lumps to me, so there may be something going on, best to get it checked so you know! ------------- Chloe (4 years) and Oliver (3 years). |
Posted By: fire_engine
Date Posted: 07 January 2010 at 6:26pm
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I've just been reading a thread about reflux kids on another forum and kept thinking of you - talking about reflux babies having lots of difficulties with changes in textures, that the developmental changes and diet changes all happening at the same time can increase the reflux, and that the different textures they're starting to explore can cause pain on the oesphagus so more feeding problems ..... Let me know if you want more info ------------- Mum to two wee boys |
Posted By: KazS
Date Posted: 07 January 2010 at 6:42pm
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my girl was born within days of your lad Monikah and was a reflux bubba too
Until Xmas day actually if you gave her anything other than super smooth puree there would be hideous gagging where her eyes rolled back in her head and all the rest of the drama Oddly on Xmas day it was like she just snapped out of it - and since she has been going from strength to strength with her eating! I have no idea what solved it other than time so i hope your boy is the same and matures into being able to eat lumps. Sorry i wasnt much help but wanted to let you know that there are others thinking of you and hoping for a similar outcome! |
Posted By: Bizzy
Date Posted: 26 January 2010 at 4:23pm
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did you ever get to the bottom of this monikah? ------------- http://www.myfitnesspal.com/weight-loss-ticker">
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Posted By: monikah
Date Posted: 26 January 2010 at 6:05pm
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no, some of the girls in the may 09 thread said they still have their babies on puree food so i decided id give it a bit of time. i gave him toast again yesterday (first try again on non-puree food) and he gagged 3 times but i only had to hit him on the back once to get it back out which is good. 2nite i gave him mince out of our lasagna and some pumkin which i mashed but left quite lumpy and no probs. he is far from the cooked carrot sticks/sandwhichs/sultanas and stuff plunket want him on but its an improvement so ill see how we go. -------------
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Posted By: Bizzy
Date Posted: 26 January 2010 at 7:02pm
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thats good just letting him go at his own pace.... ------------- http://www.myfitnesspal.com/weight-loss-ticker">
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