Delaying 15 month injections
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Topic: Delaying 15 month injections
Posted By: AandCsmum
Subject: Delaying 15 month injections
Date Posted: 12 April 2010 at 9:17am
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Yesterday I was talking to a friend who's a nurse & I think she does educating in childhood injections. I am not 100% sure so I'm going to get her to send me info.
What she has advised me with Cooper having such a issue with his body & reactions to foods. Is to delay the injections because he could end up as one of the statistics because his little body is so overloaded at the moment. She said to give it around 4-5 yo & she was telling me how Japanese do not vax their kids until they are 2yo because their bodys are not big enough to cope with them, they also don't have autism or the like as frequently as european nations do. Cooper had a nasty reaction yesterday with my DH yelling down the phone at me what have you eaten today! Incidently it was what I'd eaten the night before, which I can't pick what he would have reacted to  but Cooper had exploding diarrhea, welts & a bleeding bottom (skin) after me feeding him 20 mins before.
So at this stage I am going to delay til I have more concrete information. But would like others opinions on this. ------------- Kel http://lilypie.com"> 
A = 01.02.04 & C = 16.01.09 & G = 30.03.12 |
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Posted By: Mucky_Tiger
Date Posted: 12 April 2010 at 9:24am
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mine were delayed till i was 4, because i had so many food allergies.
i reacted to all the vaccinations prior as back in 1990 when i was getting them, they contained egg (possibly still do) im not allergic to egg, but still reacted to the shots.
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Posted By: lizzle
Date Posted: 12 April 2010 at 9:31am
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Japanese DO vaccinate kids early - Jake has the TB scars to prove it - he got it done....6 months I think but would have to check his baby book. He had something else done...encipalitis I think - which we don't vaccinate for. not sure what else is on their list. as for not having high rates of autism...well, perhaps not diagnosed autism, but I taught in several schools there where children were called "normal" but it was clear they were autistic. But for some families in japan sautism is embarresing - admitting failure or somewhat.
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Posted By: AandCsmum
Date Posted: 12 April 2010 at 11:12am
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Not help Liz, but definitely interesting, very logical they would try to hide it.
He hasn't reacted to shots yet. He was skin pricked "clear" but all that really shows is that he's not a group 1 reactor, definitely has to be group 2 or 3 reactor. I am a group 1. ------------- Kel http://lilypie.com">
A = 01.02.04 & C = 16.01.09 & G = 30.03.12 |
Posted By: Henna79
Date Posted: 12 April 2010 at 1:39pm
| I am no help but if I was in your shoes I would delay them too. I would agree with what the nurse was saying re the whole body already being loaded with enough stuff to deal with. |
Posted By: skp
Date Posted: 12 April 2010 at 1:43pm
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This is exactly why we are not doing any at all. Look at the www.ias.org.nz website, I'm sure it will help you! ------------- http://lilypie.com"> 
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Posted By: freckle
Date Posted: 12 April 2010 at 2:25pm
Was just about to say the same thing... In many cultures special needs are underdiagnosed because of the shame it brings upon the family... I suspect that they have similar rates of autism. And it is merely a correlation that the onset of symptoms of ASD coincide with the the timing for the MMR - no causal relationship has been identified. In fact brains of children that present with autism have been shown to present differences prior to 15 months, although these typically aren't idenitified as it is the behavioural changes that alert the parents to difficulties and result in the ASD diagnosis and they aren't evident until around 18months + Despite that I still think if ya wee one isn't well and is small for his age I would be inclined to wait a few months... ------------- mum to 3 lovely girls :D |
lizzle wrote:Posted By: .Mel
Date Posted: 12 April 2010 at 2:59pm
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My Cooper didn't get his 15mth injections until he was 22mths. I delayed them because I'd heard so many different and conflicting things about reactions etc to the MMR part of it that I decided to delay because I didn't want to give him something that I was so unsure about.
My doctor agreed and said he believed that delaying was a good idea as they have so many imms so close together when younger and it gives their body a chance to be able to handle them better. Anywho, I'm just giving you my personal take on them... ------------- Mr Mellow (16) Miss Attitude (8) Destructa Kid (3) 
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Posted By: Emmecat
Date Posted: 12 April 2010 at 3:29pm
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I'm *probably* not going to get Clodagh's 15 month vaccinations done at all but then we haven't vaccinated her for anything at this stage...although of course I am constantly reassessing my decision on this with my GP's input etc. Luckily I have a 'mainstream' Dr who is pro- vaxxing but also open to different opinions and schedules (and other non vaxxing parents like myself). -------------   http://lilypie.com" rel="nofollow"> 
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What I may well do is have another major rethink after she does her egg challenge in hospital in a year...if her egg allergy has gone then it's a possibilty I guess that we will start vaccinating then. I agree with the others that you go with your gut feeling on what is best for your child. The older they get surely the stronger their immune systems are and better able to cope with *all* new thins in their systems?! 
Posted By: Bobbie
Date Posted: 12 April 2010 at 7:06pm
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If he's having such severe reactions and it were me I would probably delay them until his body is better able to deal with them.
However I don't buy into the autism link at all. -------------  
 
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Posted By: Joelle
Date Posted: 12 April 2010 at 7:18pm
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My little boy had his early and I believe that it overloaded his system - so I think you do right. Wait until he is totally well whether it be in 2 months or 2years. ------------- http://lilypie.com">  
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Posted By: AandCsmum
Date Posted: 12 April 2010 at 7:48pm
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Thanks for your replies.
I don't buy into the autism link either. I'd just not thought about overloading an already overloaded body prior to talking about her. Oh the whole he's a healthy little boy, only his issues have made him not well. ------------- Kel http://lilypie.com">
A = 01.02.04 & C = 16.01.09 & G = 30.03.12 |
Posted By: Shelt
Date Posted: 12 April 2010 at 8:09pm
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I've delayed G's for similar reasons Kel - I don't want to overload her little body as she has enough to deal with as it is. She's still getting bronchiolitis about every 3 weeks on average so don't want to stress her system out any more. ------------- http://lilypie.com"> 
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Posted By: mrsturtle
Date Posted: 12 April 2010 at 8:10pm
| We are looking into this too Emily is 13 months and i has been suggested that we do 1 of them at around 14 months and the other 2 at 16ish months so that its not all 3 at once has anyone else done this? |
Posted By: mumtooboys
Date Posted: 12 April 2010 at 8:15pm
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I think it should be said that Japan does vaccinate some children early, but generally they seem to be much older when they are vaccinated. For example it is common for them to not receive their first dose of DTaP until they are 2+ years old. In saying that, 'early' for them is from 12 weeks instead of at birth like most every other country on the planet. They also tend to space theirs more and do single vaccines at a time instead of several at one visit; so while we do DTap-IPV, Hib-HepB and Prevenar for example all in one visit, they'd do DTap at one visit and Hib-HepB at another visit and Prevenar at yet another spaced at least 3 weeks apart. They have a higher vaccine uptake rate than NZ and most other countries, but they reckon that is more due to cultural reasons than the fact that it can be argued that they have more choices than say we do.
I'd delay too if it were me. ------------- http://lilypie.com"> 
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Posted By: blondy
Date Posted: 12 April 2010 at 8:53pm
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Haven't read the other responses, but we delayed the 15month jabbies a little - Nat has food allergies, and has always reacted badly to the jabs (my guess is partly to the milk/egg components, plus also because her immune system tended to ramped up with the allergies anyway)....and we finally did them around 18-19months. She was totally great with them, and didn't react to anything (I was worried about the egg content of them especially). We did break them up, so gave them 2-3 weeks apart and I wish I'd done that all along! -------------  
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Posted By: Babe
Date Posted: 13 April 2010 at 8:30am
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I'd delay Coops imms Kel. Def agree with overload.
I haven't done either of the boys officially (Jake had 1 DTap when he stood on a rusty nail last October) coz I think its too early and also coz of allergies. I don't know that I believe imms *cause* autism but I wouldn't be suprised if it aggravated the condition of children already susceptible. -------------   
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Posted By: AandCsmum
Date Posted: 13 April 2010 at 9:00am
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I need to make an appointment with the Dr this week so will be discussing it with him & will definitely be breaking them up when I do them. ------------- Kel http://lilypie.com">
A = 01.02.04 & C = 16.01.09 & G = 30.03.12 |
Posted By: Raspberryjam
Date Posted: 13 April 2010 at 10:51am
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My little dot didnt have her first lot til she was about 9 months - Im sure if your babe isnt exposed to loads of people before hand, you can delay for as long as you see fit
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Posted By: rorylex
Date Posted: 13 April 2010 at 5:36pm
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i am delaying ds3's mmr til he is 2yrs as ds1 has autism and im just worried about that side of it.
ds2 had already had his mmr b4 ds1's autism become noticed. ------------- Mummy to 4 boys Samuel - 18.6.05 Rory - 15.7.06 Mason - 13.06.08 Emmett - 24.01.10 Baby #5 - cooking |
Posted By: toniellis
Date Posted: 16 April 2010 at 12:37am
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I delay all imms for my kids, not just the 15month one. Just my personal opinion was that they start them too young anyway but like I said, thats just MY personal opinion.
My youngest son had his 15month imms at 22months old and there is no allergies & no history of reactions or anything but he most definitely had a reaction to those 15month imms. I took him in the afternoon for the jab, sat in the waiting room afterwards for 20minutes & he seemed fine. Took him home & he had an early dinner & off to bed. The next day I could NOT wake him up, he was basically unresponsive to anything I did. He would open his eyes & look at me then drift off within a minute. I let him sleep thinking he was just tired but by lunchtime he hadnt eaten anything or drunk anything and still couldn't really be woken. I rang healthline & was advised to take him to my GP but instead I took him to the local A & E. They couldn't wake him up either and I sat there until 10pm in a little cubicle while the doctor told me it was probably just him teething or some kind of flu. I took him home because they wouldn't do anything. He didnt really have a temperature just wouldn't wake up. I sat by his bed all night praying that he was ok and he woke up the next day at his usual time happy as larry but it was the scariest time in my life and my daughter is due to turn 2 years old in 6 weeks time and I STILL haven't had the 15month imms done because I'm so scared the same thing will happen to her.... Maybe will give it a go when she is 2.5 but I'm not in any hurry and quite seriously considering just skipping the mmr part all together ------------- Mum to Alex (11), Blaire (10) & Erika (8) and Damien (6) Successful HWB VBA2Cs! Soon to be surrogate |
Posted By: peanut butter
Date Posted: 16 April 2010 at 7:53am
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Oh man! I really should stop reading these things LOL. I am about to get James' 15 mo imms today AND we are doing flu vax as he gets every cold coming and ear and chest infections and I'd hate him to get the flu on top of another infection......but that means 5 vacs all up!!! We are planning to do 3 today and 2 in a month. I might have a chat to the doc first. The nurse was saying that MMR is probably the most important one right now with all the measles outbreaks that have been going on...especially when we are heading up to chch in a few weeks and will be catching up with LOADS of kids.....and little unvac'd ones too.
Oh making decisions is so hard. So far we havent had any reactions to anything with either child. James does get a type of excema but thats seems to be the dry skin type in winter. Oh well, I will see what Doc has to say......he has a wee cold at the mo so we might can them today anyway...but when doesnt he have a cold right now. |
Posted By: AandCsmum
Date Posted: 16 April 2010 at 11:03am
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Nikki, the majority of kids fly through them & there is only a handful of cases ( i think) that react in some way shape or form. Alia flew threw all her imms. Cooper has always got "man flu" afterwards. I just see the logic of his low body weight & reactions to other things as a good reason to delay & space out the imms. ------------- Kel http://lilypie.com">
A = 01.02.04 & C = 16.01.09 & G = 30.03.12 |
Posted By: kiwigal
Date Posted: 16 April 2010 at 11:49am
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DS7 was diagnosed with mild autism at 21 months and had all his vaccines up to date now I wish I had delay them as he was 4 weeks prem but can't go back and change it. DD came along 19 months ago and we have delayed them competely. She had the 6 week one at 5 months and the 3 month one at 11 or 12 months. She has not had anymore since as we are still in two minds about the whole thing. At the last one she came somewhat less reposnsive and just wasn't her bubbly self and hardly use any of her words for about a couple of weeks. |
Posted By: peanut butter
Date Posted: 16 April 2010 at 1:16pm
| Well we did it. He had MMR, Hib and flu today and in 4 weeks he will have 2nd flu and previnar. He was a star! He yelped a little at the ones in his leg and then cried when they did MMR but only while the needle was in. Then happy as Larry! I had a good talk to the GPs about it all first and the nurse. As you say Kel, most babeis fly through. I figured the small risk of a reaction was smaller than the risk of complications from the diseases. And I have to look at things a bit differently living here. We are 3 hours from a hospital so if there are complications to flu etc....its a long way to travel. |