Vegetarian sushi & bean curd rolls
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Topic: Vegetarian sushi & bean curd rolls
Posted By: Emmecat
Subject: Vegetarian sushi & bean curd rolls
Date Posted: 24 April 2010 at 6:10pm
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DF has just been so sweet and brought me home some vegetarian sushi and bean curd rolls...yum. But he was gutted (as was I) when I said I thought I couldn't eat them, even though they're both vegetarian. I have a feeling its something to do with the rice? Anyone know? Also, if it IS the rice then I'm a bit worried now cos one of the few things I can stomach well is that packet rice you cook in a microwave...Uncle Bens etc. Is THAT ok? Internet opinion seems very divided, half of it says avoid sushi altogethr, the rst say vegetarian sushi fine. MOH says to avoid it but then they also say don't eat home made or store bought hummus....which I do eat anyway cos its part of my protein intake! Aarrrgh -------------   http://lilypie.com" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: mummyofprinces
Date Posted: 24 April 2010 at 6:19pm
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Its the rice hun, listeria can breed like mad in cooked rice if its not stored properly.....
So if it was cooked fresh when DH got it and it hasnt been sitting out all day then I would say its probably ok but if it was already packed sitting on the shelf then nope! With hummus, there is debate around this one. Apparently (and I will be corrected I am sure LOL) the reason it is on the no go list is due to the tahini in it, there were some listeria cases a few years back. I personally eat hummus, but only when opened or home made... you can make it with pretty much just chick peas, garlic and lemon juice I am told. -------------   
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Posted By: MissAngel
Date Posted: 24 April 2010 at 6:22pm
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You can cook and eat your own rice no problem. I think the uncle bens ones are good too cuz you heat them beyond recognition anyway.
I eat hummus - but i'll eat the whole thing at once and not store it in the fridge. ------------- Alex, Thomas and Lily http://lilypie.com" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: Emmecat
Date Posted: 24 April 2010 at 6:23pm
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lol I knew you at least would reply to this thread Mel The hummus thing....i used to make my own but I simply can't be bothered anymore so just buy it. What's wrong with tahini though? ------------- http://lilypie.com" rel="nofollow">
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hmmm I have a feeling the sushi was already prepared adn was an end of day sale IYKWIM so bah I will avoid it. Bugger. Poor DF. He was just being sweet Posted By: Emmecat
Date Posted: 24 April 2010 at 6:24pm
MissAngel- you eat your entire tub of hummus at once?  lol it takes our family of 3 days to eat it...I just make sure the lid is on tight and its kept in the fridge. AND I reheated half of my Uncle Bens rice today....wow I am a bad pregnant food safety person  ------------- http://lilypie.com" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: snugglebug
Date Posted: 24 April 2010 at 6:33pm
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Emmecat I have the latest food safety brochure from ministry of health and it does say not to eat hummus but it doesn't say why.
I think if you made your own, or if you ate it just when you opened the packet then it would be ok. ------------- Me 28, DH 29 DS born 20 Nov 2010 (4 years old) #2 due October 7 http://lilypie.com" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: mummyofprinces
Date Posted: 24 April 2010 at 6:37pm
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Yeah the uncle bens stuff is fine I reckon, even reheated!.
Something about the way tahini is prepared means its a higher listeria risk... I am not sure. They are guides/recommendations after all. I think it comes down to what risk you are prepared to take, not every piece of sushi is going to have listeria in it but it might so do you take the gamble... I eat things I am not "supposed" too but thats my risk to take iykwim...  -------------
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Posted By: Kellz
Date Posted: 24 April 2010 at 6:38pm
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We eat a whole pot of hummus in one go too- but I get help!
I had no idea not to eat it while preg- I did all the time. And I ate all sorts of sushi too but only from one shop where I know the turn over is high, and I had no problems! |
Posted By: mummyofprinces
Date Posted: 24 April 2010 at 6:47pm
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Ok taken from a newletter on the health website....
The New Zealand Food Safety Authority has introduced an Emergency Food Standard aimed at protecting consumers from imported tahini products that could be contaminated with Salmonella bacteria. The move follows concern at the number of products containing tahini or crushed sesame seeds imported into New Zealand that have been found to be contaminated with Salmonella. The Emergency Food Standard means that all imported tahini, crushed sesame seeds or foods containing these products will be monitored and tested prior to being released when they arrive in the country. In July hummus made with tahini was recalled by manufacturers because it was contaminated with Salmonella. In September the New Zealand Food Safety Authority issued three warnings to the public not to eat specific brands of tahini paste and halva, a Lebanese dried confectionery, because they contained Salmonella. These products have been linked to four cases of Salmonella in Auckland. Tahini has also been implicated in outbreaks of Salmonella in Australia and Sweden over the last two years. “We need to be able to protect at the border from this sort of food contamination instead of waiting for people to get sick before we can deal with the problem. This new Emergency Food Standard will allow us to do that,” Jim Wilson, Programme Manager, Imported Foods says. Tahini is a sesame seed paste used in many Middle Eastern spreads and dips. It can be used by itself or as a flavour enhancer. It is also referred to as sesame paste, hamas tahini, tahina, tahine, halva dessert mix, sesame seed paste and sesame seed butter. Tahini is used in the manufacture of hummus (halawa), halva, and babaganoush. “As a general food safety precaution, tahini should be kept in the fridge and consumed by its use-by date. Once the use-by date has expired it should be thrown out,” Mr Wilson says. -------------
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Posted By: mummyofprinces
Date Posted: 24 April 2010 at 6:47pm
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That is what sparked hummus being a bad food -------------
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Posted By: kebakat
Date Posted: 24 April 2010 at 6:57pm
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I eat some things that are meant to be on the no go list.
I have mcd's thick shakes. I didn't know those were a no no until yesterday. I eat runny egg yolks. I need egg for protein (vego like you are). I make sure the white is cooked but completely cooked egg yolk is just 
I've eaten some hummus too. I only eat it within a day or two of opening. |
Posted By: Flutterby
Date Posted: 24 April 2010 at 7:21pm
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I ate hummus. At one stage all I could eat in the mornings was hummus and tomato on vogels, Yummy, now I want some of that .
As the others said rice is fine when freshly cooked but not if it has been sitting around for a while. ------------- http://lilypie.com">  http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: MissAngel
Date Posted: 24 April 2010 at 7:58pm
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lol, once I get going on hummus and crackers man, thats me! I dont buy massive pots tho, only the smallish ones.
------------- Alex, Thomas and Lily http://lilypie.com" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: fire_engine
Date Posted: 24 April 2010 at 8:39pm
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I have homemade hummus (not that I can be arsed to make it) or any other dips that I can find, and homemae sushi (when DH CBA to make it!). I was at a conference this week and ended up eating vege sushi rolls out of desperation as there was very little else (other than curry that makes me ) to eat. ------------- Mum to two wee boys |
Posted By: Emmecat
Date Posted: 25 April 2010 at 8:40am
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lol I guess it's all a bit of a gamble then isn't it? I have never kept my tahini in a fridge, pregnant or not. I guess I'll keep eating it as is then and the hummus...but maybe watch out for the sushi. It's still in the fridge and the bean curd rolls are calling me..... sigh Wow and I didn't know that about McD's thickshakes either...I HATE McD's with a passion for all sorts of reasons but I've been a total hypocrit the last week and had about 3 thickshakes from there as thats what my poor old tummy oculd stomach. Jeez we could go through our pregnancies eating nothing but freshly grown and washed organic veges and well cooked proteins lol (I guess thats the ideal anyway!) ------------- http://lilypie.com" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: kebakat
Date Posted: 25 April 2010 at 10:10am
| I'm the same with the thickshakes. I haven't been to maccas in AGES but their thick shakes were sooo good and stayed down. Perfect for when I was feeling really thirsty and i couldn't drink much of anything. |
Posted By: fire_engine
Date Posted: 25 April 2010 at 11:32am
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Sometimes you've just gotta do what you've gotta do.
My MW said to be paranoid about Listeria as that's the one that crosses the placenta. The other nasties will knock you around but I think the risk to the baby is lower (though don't quote me). ------------- Mum to two wee boys |
Posted By: Emmecat
Date Posted: 25 April 2010 at 12:55pm
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OK dumb question but how do you know you have listeria as oppossed to just really crumby ms? ------------- http://lilypie.com" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: AngieBabe
Date Posted: 25 April 2010 at 1:02pm
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I think the symptoms for Listeriosis are fairly vague, some people don't know for sure they have it but can include fever, chills, aches, headache and other flu-like symptoms; sometimes back pain and the whole stomach-bug type thing...
But it's my understanding the only reliable way to tell if you've got it is through a blood test so if you suspect you do have it, get onto to your MW immediately and get the BT. Hope this doesn't sound too drastic and give you the complete heebie-jeebies! ------------- http://lilypie.com" rel="nofollow">  
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Posted By: fire_engine
Date Posted: 25 April 2010 at 1:49pm
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One of the big things she talked about was huge temperature swings - going from really hot and temp spiking, to shivering and freezing. That's meant to be quite dangerous.
I've had 3 tummy bugs this pregnancy and have been completely paranoid about "what if it's listeria". I ended up having my NF scan a bit early just to set my mind at ease! As a result of the scares, I have reverted to being a bit more paranoid about my diet and hand hygiene. ------------- Mum to two wee boys |
Posted By: minik8e
Date Posted: 25 April 2010 at 10:07pm
| Bubs can also get listeria without you having symptoms. One of the ladies in the NNU with me had her little boy at 32w5d...she had gone to get monitored because her little boy wasn't moving much, and he was delivered by c-s the next day, and was seriously ill with listeria - they didn't think he would survive. It then developed into meningitis. He is now an extremely healthy 8 month old though, but had a very rough start to life. |
Posted By: Emmecat
Date Posted: 26 April 2010 at 7:20am
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Jeez I am totally put off having uncles Bens now lol I thought I was pretty carefule actually, I avoid soft cheese etc and being vego I don't need to worry about undercooked meat etc, but who woulda known about rice???? thanks for the info tho guys ------------- http://lilypie.com" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: caliandjack
Date Posted: 26 April 2010 at 10:01am
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Cooked rice is fine - cold cooked rice is a breeding ground for food poisioning - this is the problem with sushi. ------------- http://lilypie.com" rel="nofollow">   [/url] Angel June 2012 |