Daycare - am I just conservative?
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Topic: Daycare - am I just conservative?
Posted By: AzzaNZ
Subject: Daycare - am I just conservative?
Date Posted: 21 July 2010 at 2:26pm
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I'm a bit irritated with DD's daycare at the moment but when I raise anything I get the feeling that we are considered *very* conservative and OTT by the daycare. So, whats the norm?
DD is 3. She came home one day wearing makeup (foundation/rouge/eyeshadow etc). I was upset about it and asked the school not to put makeup on her again. I let them know we dont think its appropriate for a 3 year old and that we have had a history of skin allergies as well. Two weeks ago, DD again comes home wearing makeup. I sent a letter to the daycare manager asking them to please not put makeup on our child and followed it up with a talk. We dont mind face paint... but makeup? I really hate the way we "sexualise" our little girls so early on and I think that encouraging makeup and the like doesnt help any. We dont have any Barbie/Bratz stuff in our house, she doesnt get to wear teeny little miniskirts and cropped tops (and I found it odd when we were gifted some). We're also careful about what she watches on TV. Recently whenever we fetch her from daycare they are letting the kids watch clips on Youtube. When I last fetched her they were watching Spiderman and I thought "gosh, this is a bit violent" but didnt say anything. DH fetched her yesterday and they were watching some odd clip with farting, burping animals and the older boys were running around pretending to fart on people. Are we being really odd about this? The children range from 2 to school-going age. ------------- http://lilypie.com"> 
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Posted By: clover
Date Posted: 21 July 2010 at 2:30pm
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I don't have a child let alone one in daycare but that sounds off to me. Full makeup on a 3 year old? Especially when you had specifically told them that you did not want her wearing makeup.
It sounds like they are making some errors in judgement to me and may have lost a little sight of the age of the children they are looking after! ------------- http://lilypie.com"> 
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Posted By: High9
Date Posted: 21 July 2010 at 2:32pm
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Wow, I am kinda surprised they allowed the make up, our family has a history of being allergic to eye shadow (eyes swell and go puffy and itchy etc)
I guess times have changed from when we were kids... I don't think there is anything wrong with watching YT clips, but perhaps age appropriate ones are a lot better imo. I grew up with Barbies and will let Lily have them, however I won't let Lily do ballet as a friend of mine did it and she was tiny as 45kg (under weight) and the teacher would call her fat 
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Posted By: Delli
Date Posted: 21 July 2010 at 2:33pm
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That is a bit weird! I would have thought face paint would have been the way to go - not makeup? And if they were using makeup in funny ways then I wouldn't have a problem but if they were putting it on the "proper" way - that would annoy me. Did they put it on the boys too? That would probably be very annoying for me as well if they did makeup with the girls while the boys got to play in the mud or something like that.
They watched movies at the daycare Jude used to go to I think but not youtube or afternoon cartoons like spiderman. ------------- http://lilypie.com"> 
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Posted By: Bizzy
Date Posted: 21 July 2010 at 2:33pm
farting is normal and funny - especially for boys! 
they are a daycare and should be taking into consideration all parents, not just a few. I dont think it is conservative not to want make up on your 3 year old at all. maybe you should pop in and do some surprise inspections to see what kind of supervision they are having. If the carers want to watch youtube they should do it on their own time. ------------- http://www.myfitnesspal.com/weight-loss-ticker"> 
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Posted By: HuntersMama
Date Posted: 21 July 2010 at 2:35pm
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I dont think you are being OTT at all. You have 2 very valid reasons you dont want your daughter wearing makeup so they should respect that. ------------- http://lilypie.com"> 
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Posted By: littlestar
Date Posted: 21 July 2010 at 2:36pm
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I don't have a daughter nor does my son go to DC yet - but I certainly don't think you are being odd. From what you have said I would be starting to look around for another DC. I think I would have an issue with makeup on a child so young and if they were going to let them watch TV/Youtube - at least it should be age appropriate like cartoons or something. ------------- http://lilypie.com"> 
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Posted By: Nutella
Date Posted: 21 July 2010 at 2:37pm
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I think the makeup thing is a bit strange...imagine if she had an allergy? Makes you wonder if they listen to anything a parent has to say and what risks they are taking with other things.
And your other reason is totally valid too!! Not OTT at all. ------------- 
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Posted By: AzzaNZ
Date Posted: 21 July 2010 at 2:38pm
Yeah, the first incident was full-on makeup that we battled to get off with soap. I dont usually wear makeup myself so dont keep any remover. The second time was blue eyeshadow and rouge. I ended up at A&E getting steroid injections the last time I tried to use makeup and when I saw the daycare teachers the next day looking like the marshmallow man I let them know it was an allergic reaction to makeup and reiterated that it is one of many reasons we dont put it on DD. Its really frustrating! After my letter the manager said it will never happen again... so here's hoping ------------- http://lilypie.com">
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clover wrote:Posted By: flakesitchyfeet
Date Posted: 21 July 2010 at 2:38pm
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I remember being surprised when I first heard about the makeup incident. U don't think you're odd at all- this wouldn't happen at our DC and rightly so.
I agree with you 100 %, and find it weird such things happen at a centre. I'm not stating that they are not educating your child etc at all - just weird that this sort of thing happens on top of that. edited to add: I'll backtrack slightly. Maybe if they were showing some super educational preschool based program of some sort - but certainly not spiderman and farting clips. -------------  http://lilypie.com"> |
Posted By: AzzaNZ
Date Posted: 21 July 2010 at 2:41pm
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We havent spoken to them about Youtube and age appropriate watching yet - I thought I'd first make sure we werent being ridiculous.
We're happy with the daycare in all other areas and she loves it there... but maybe when the teachers are choosing what to watch they should make it appropriate to the youngest child in the room at the time. ------------- http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: flakesitchyfeet
Date Posted: 21 July 2010 at 2:41pm
Lol I think given the tone and speed of the replies Azza, you're quite normal and not that conservative at all really  ------------- http://lilypie.com"> |
Posted By: Joscia
Date Posted: 21 July 2010 at 2:41pm
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I agree with the others - I don't think you're being OTT or conservative at all! That would really rip my nightie if I'd specifically asked them not to apply make up and they did it again. And I think you reasons for not wanting her to wear make up or watch TV are valid and sensible, not overly conservative. ------------- http://alterna-tickers.com"> 
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Posted By: caliandjack
Date Posted: 21 July 2010 at 2:41pm
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Agree with what's been said, I wouldn't want any make up being put on my girl when she's 3. Also you've asked them not too, your the customer you should get the service your expected to pay for. ------------- http://lilypie.com" rel="nofollow">   [/url] Angel June 2012 |
Posted By: phantom_1
Date Posted: 21 July 2010 at 2:44pm
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Hi AzzaNZ
I agree with you on all the above points. I'm 26 weeks pg with a wee girl and would not appreciate her being exposed to youtube or movies like spiderman without our consent. How can they even consider putting makeup on children this young?? I would be complaining to the teachers also and it sounds like they aren't even listening to your concerns. Have you contacted any other mums for the daycare? |
Posted By: LouD
Date Posted: 21 July 2010 at 2:46pm
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I dont have a daughter but hell no on makeup that young........i totally agree on the sexualise too young and im sorry they are teaching at such a young age that natural beauty isnt something to be proud of......
and then to ignore you!!!!! I would have guns blazing |
Posted By: nuts_nats
Date Posted: 21 July 2010 at 2:51pm
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IMO you are not being OTT at all! I would not consider myself conservative in the slightest and I would not want my daughter in a daycare where they put makeup on little girls OR allowed them to watch youtube or TV. Especially if you have already expressed to them your concerns. Maybe time to find a new daycare more in keeping with your families values? And that respect a parents decisions!
I think makeup is a tricky one and its something I would want to supervise in my own home. I am horrified at the early sexualising of little girls and I want to protect my daughter from that as much as I can. At 12 I was still playing dress ups and barbies, not wearing makeup and thong underwear and chasing boys and I value my childhood. But I think there is a place for role playing, if my little girl wants to play putting on lipstick like mummy... or banging on nails like daddy if she's not a girly girl  ------------- http://lilypie.com">  
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Posted By: lilfatty
Date Posted: 21 July 2010 at 2:55pm
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From a Mummy perspective I think its sucks!
From a dc perspective I suppose (and im just thinking out loud) it can be hard if you are playing dress ups with the kids but have to exclude one. BUT I think that they should exclude her because you have stipulated they do. I do know how annoying it is to be "ignored" .. I specifically asked one day for them not to allow Issy to do any painting because I didnt want the top she had on to get ruined ... umm ... the top got ruined. However that pales in comparison to someone who is allergic to make up! ------------- Mummy to Issy (3) and Elias (18 months) I did it .. 41 kgs gone! From flab to fab in under a year  http://www.femininefitness.co.nz/category/blog - LFs weight blog
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Posted By: Manda08
Date Posted: 21 July 2010 at 2:55pm
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Not OTT at all, i wouldnt be happy either. My DS gets to watch youtube now and then at home... old mac donald songs etc, not spiderman and stuff, thats crazy! I wouldnt be happy. I can see you dont want to feel like you are constantly moaning though, so hopefully it doesnt happen again.
Reminds me i was going to talk to daycare about DS's hand been drawn on with pen by a teacher... maybe thats a bit OTT. DP wasnt happy though. ------------- 
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Posted By: lilfatty
Date Posted: 21 July 2010 at 3:07pm
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Manda08 - Sorry this is way OT, but I <3 your sons name! ------------- Mummy to Issy (3) and Elias (18 months) I did it .. 41 kgs gone! From flab to fab in under a year http://www.femininefitness.co.nz/category/blog - LFs weight blog
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Posted By: RBsMama
Date Posted: 21 July 2010 at 3:13pm
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I think it's inappropriate for makeup to be used at daycare, regardless if it's dressup or not. And the fact you had already requested them not to use it on your daughter, and they did it again is careless. I know mistakes can happen, as it can be rather busy at daycares, but they need to be more careful. There's also the issue that bacteria and infections can be spread by sharing makeup. ------------- http://lilypie.com" rel="nofollow">  http://lilypie.com" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: jaz
Date Posted: 21 July 2010 at 3:16pm
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I don't think you are OTT, there is plenty of time for make up, you tube and violent movies. IMHO right now they should be enjoying crayons and play dough. ------------- http://lilypie.com"> 
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Posted By: pumpkino
Date Posted: 21 July 2010 at 3:19pm
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You aren't being too conservative at all! Makeup on children is just wrong unless it's something like facepaint. Even then, I think from a health and safety standpoint a DC should think very carefully before putting ANYTHING on a child's skin without checking with the parents first. Some children suffer from skin conditions and allergies.
re the age appropriate watching - I personally don't think they should show anything unless it is rated "G". Even if it's PG, the P stands for Parent! They shouldn't be making those decisions for you. It's not as if there aren't a million G rated movies/TV shows out there to choose from. P :) |
Posted By: kiwi2
Date Posted: 21 July 2010 at 3:36pm
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I think you have grounds to be concerned. The makeup thing is just not appropriate. Both age wise and skin allergywise. Are they all sharing as that is a sure fire way to get impetigo etc. I also think that with the internet being the way it is the longer kids don't know about u-tube the better. There is a lot of fun stuff on there but also a lot that is not good and it is a parents job to introduce u-tube. Especially when there are plenty of educational sites out there that are more appropriate. I would be asking to see the daycares protocol on internet and technology.
As for barbie maybe you are more on the conservative side. You are definately not alone as there are a lot of parents that are a bit anti barbie and brats but in my opinion the mothers who do not worry about barbie outweigh those that do. So with those thoughts maybe a bit conservative in this area which I don't think is a bad thing by the way. I had issues with MIL. She would buy off the shoulder tops and winnie the pooh g strings for my 8 year old at the time. Luckily my 8 year old voiced my opinions on them before I did so I had no battles with it. There are so many cute outfits out there that keep little girls as little girls and not mini streetwalkers. |
Posted By: Delli
Date Posted: 21 July 2010 at 3:43pm
I didn't know there were such things as winnie the pooh g strings for 8 year olds!!!! I thought kids g strings had to be a slight exaggeration from those trying to get their point across about the sexualisation of young girls. Obviously not  Why would they make them!------------- http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: AzzaNZ
Date Posted: 21 July 2010 at 3:46pm
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Thanks everyone! I feel a lot better knowing I'm not being OTT about it.
And good to know re the ratings pumpkino - at least when I speak to them I know what to ask for! I know even we get it wrong a lot, James and the Giant Peach still has her having nightmares about a rhino (and it looked so child friendly when I picked it up!) ------------- http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: DzinerGirl
Date Posted: 21 July 2010 at 3:52pm
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I don't have a lil girl or a child at daycare yet but I would be livid if I was in your position so I don't think you're being OTT or conservative at all and especially as it's happened again after you asking them not to do it AND letting them know about the history of skin allergies.
I'd go in guns blazing and if it's a DC that is part of a bigger corporation I'd be letting them know how I felt about it too, they take food allergies seriously and should be taking skin allergies (even the possibility of them) just as seriously. Plus sharing make-up is not very hygenic either especially things like foundation!!! Good luck 
Woah!!! G-Strings created for kids is just creepy
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Posted By: caliandjack
Date Posted: 21 July 2010 at 3:56pm
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Missed the part about You Tube videos and spiderman. Its a PG.
They shouldn't be watching anything over a G. Although to be honest I wouldn't want them to be watching any TV or DVDs, that's not what I think daycare is for. ------------- http://lilypie.com" rel="nofollow"> [/url] Angel June 2012 |
Posted By: DzinerGirl
Date Posted: 21 July 2010 at 4:08pm
Good call there hun
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Posted By: caraMel
Date Posted: 21 July 2010 at 4:09pm
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Yup I'm with the others.
I'd be really annoyed about the makeup too. It is not only inappropriate, it is unhygienic. I'd be really pissed off if my child was shown a movie like Spiderman without having been asked if I was ok with it. My daughter's school sent home permission slips for the kids to watch Shrek and they're twice your daughter's age! I'm also not really ok with the kids being shown YouTube clips. While I don't expect daycare teachers to spend every minute stimulating the children's minds with learning activities, that just seems like lazy time-wasting to me when the kids would be just as happy with a story or song or something easy like that! ------------- Mel, Mummy to E: 6, B: 4 and: 
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Posted By: MamaT
Date Posted: 21 July 2010 at 4:16pm
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Yep, like the others have said, I don't think you are being OTT at all. I wouldn't be happy if my son (or daughter if I had one) came home from daycare in makeup. I also wouldn't be happy my child going to daycare to watch youtube, I don't think that is appropriate either. -------------  
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Posted By: heaf3
Date Posted: 21 July 2010 at 4:24pm
yeah me too! and not swearing every five minutes and wanting to get drunk (but thats a whole other story). theres something definately wrong with society now... and definately not OTT azza, i would be mad too. ------------- http://lilypie.com" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: Kellz
Date Posted: 21 July 2010 at 4:30pm
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I love when Isla comes home with her face painted like a butterfly etc, she loves it so I think its great they do things like that there,...but makeup?!! I wouldnt be happy with that either, and also for the allergy reasons. When she first started there- age 1 - she had food allergies and bad eczema, and the daycare were doing facepaint one day and rang me to ask if it was ok for her first before doing it!
I do let Isla wear makeup - she loves her nails painted and has little kids lip gloss etc and little drawers with hair ties/ clips that she loves to play with- but thats my choice as her parent. I so dont think they should be doing that at daycare tho. |
Posted By: Aprilfools
Date Posted: 21 July 2010 at 4:31pm
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I agree with caliandjacks above post.
As for the makeup I don't think you're being OTT at all. I personally don't have a problem with girls playing dress ups with a little bit of makeup but I don't think a daycare should be putting makeup on a child without a parents permission. That's something that should be done tastefully and either by the parents or by someone, like say the super cool aunty who knows where the limit is. It's about respect for a families own boundaries and in your case it's also about making sure it doesn't cause any harm. I'd be uber p*ssed if I were you. aaahh the memories! Remember the little toy makeup kit with the little lipsticks that stacked together?? I used to love turning myself into a clown. ------------- http://lilypie.com"> 
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Posted By: High9
Date Posted: 21 July 2010 at 4:36pm
OMG can't agree more! I didn't even know about sex until one of my best friends ran away and told us she had sex! Then I got the 'birds and the bees' talk.
But everything seems to be happening younger and younger now... When I was year 9 we weren't drinking, smoking anything or having boyfriends. When I was 7th form a couple of years ago they new year 9's on camp were talking about everything they had already done before 13! All I can think is, your parents let you? Or are they not giving you enough attention to realise!
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Posted By: LJsmum
Date Posted: 21 July 2010 at 4:55pm
I agree with everybody else, it's shocking they are putting makeup on kids!!!
I'm an ECE teacher with more than 10 years experience and no way would i ever or allow any of the teachers who i have worked with and for me do this. It's totally unacceptable! what value or what learning is applying makeup going to promote?/ Are they wanting to teach a three year old that she has to look pretty with makeup to have fun dressing up / be accepted? Just crazy! What ever happened to dressing up , pretending and face painting. Make up has no place in daycares and kindy!!!!. I'm sure the minsitry of Ed would want to know about this.It is not good practice. Is it included in there planning and documention? Also that they are letting kids watch PG films without parents there or with out consent.
Daycares have a responsibility to care for/ educate/ nuture young children it makes me mad to hear people do this . I didn't study for 3 years and then work for 2 years practice to gain full teacher registration to put make up on three years old!! Sorry i'm passionate about children and their rights.  -------------  
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Posted By: kiwi2
Date Posted: 21 July 2010 at 5:19pm
Sorry as off topic Being a mum of a 13 soon 14 year old who feels the same as you guys I feel like I am the big meany ALL the time. It seems like I am the only mum who won't let her do certain things and I am horrified at what her friends manage to get up to. In saying that I do realise I don't know all that goes on with my child (I wish I did but I can remember what I pulled with my mum so not silly to think that my daughter gets away with some stuff) Like the other day she went to the mall and went to a movie with a group of friends and neglected to tell me there were boys too. Needless to say she is grounded. I will blame it on the MIL and the winnie the pooh g strings when she was 8 lol.
ETA getting back on topic I think you have enough support to go to the daycare and voice your concerns. Maybe print off this thread so that the daycare providers can see that it isn't just you with such views and suggest they contact all the parents to contribute their thoughts on this. |
Posted By: emz
Date Posted: 21 July 2010 at 5:20pm
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No to makeup - no way unless it's for a production or something - but usually they have facepaint (at least once a week) - DS has to have barrier cream put on first as he gets eczema on his cheeks.
re the YT clips and spiderman - youtube is laziness for ECE - what can they show that is beneficial that they shouldn't be able to do already? And spiderman - well we don't even let that be watched by the 9 and 10 year olds at school, only G rated movies are allowed to be watched at school, and only at wet lunchtimes. |
Posted By: TheKelly
Date Posted: 21 July 2010 at 5:22pm
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Hmm , Caitlyn has always loved playing with makeup , and she enjoys putting it on, but I remember at three years old, she would just put on the fake makeup that doesn't actually appear on the face(you know the lipstick that is just plastic and looks like lipstick ) , their skin is too delicate at that age for chemicals from make up imo
I think whats actually important here, is that you have told them clearly what you do and don't want , and they are blatantly going against your wishes. Thats not right ------------- 
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Posted By: kellie
Date Posted: 21 July 2010 at 6:23pm
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You are not being OTT. Makeup on a young girl, especially after the parents have advised they don't like this, is not on at all. WTH.
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Posted By: Peanut
Date Posted: 21 July 2010 at 6:28pm
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DS's DC has a hair salon and I love that! They all get there hair done etc even the boys. The kids all love it. They also do nail painting and i often donate my unwanted colours to them. I like that idea too. Make up is probably inappropiate though esp if you asked for them not to.
TBH, the YT wouldn't bother me a whole lot, but then maybe I am a little too relaxed. Of course it would depend on what they were showing but what you said I would be ok with. Boys would be running round making farting noise regardless of seeing it - they love fart noises! At DS's DC the boys are all spiderman obbsessed so that often leads to play fighting. If they were showing the boys examples of Spiderman being the good guy then I would be ok with it. I have shown DS clips of Spiderman purely so now I can say "Spiderman doesn't hit or kick, remember?" -------------  
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Posted By: pikelets
Date Posted: 21 July 2010 at 7:23pm
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The make up is out of line especially with allregies and the sharing of makeup. I dont have a girl but I would say a little lipgloss now and again like mummy would be cute but not full on makeup.
I think watching youtube is lazy and what can you see on there that is that great for kids??? DS's DC watches a DVD on Fridays from about 4.15ish (they close at 5pm on Fridays). I don't mind that at all as they watch Winnie the Pooh, Hairy Mcleary, age appropriate. Is DD at a chain? We had probs with our last DC but because it was independently owned, everything fell on deaf ears. ------------- http://lilypie.com"> 
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Posted By: _SMS_
Date Posted: 21 July 2010 at 7:23pm
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Although i dont think you are being OTT, if it were me i wouldnt care.
When i was a kids i always played make ups lol. Well putting it on & playing dress ups. I would never let DD go in public with make up. But when she is that age if she wants to play at home occasionally or at Daycare/kindy whatever it wouldnt bother me. Dp would most likely have a fit though lol -------------  
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Posted By: Nothing
Date Posted: 21 July 2010 at 7:43pm
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I think you have done the right thing, the DC should have listened to you the first time. My DF has suggested you ring campbell live and let them know (although I dont agree as such). I hope you get this sorted ------------- 
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Posted By: mummy_becks
Date Posted: 21 July 2010 at 8:23pm
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If the DC is a chain work your way up the chain. As for YT our DC let the kids watch it at the end of the day well after 5pm and they finish at 5.30. They are usually looking at something that they have done that day (Dinosaurs, Where the Wild Things Are, are the latest things for them), and I have no issues with that. Our DC also facepaint, but makeup is a bit wrong. ------------- I was a puree feeder, forward facing, cot sleeping, pram pushing kind of Mum... and my kids survived! |
Posted By: Nutella
Date Posted: 21 July 2010 at 8:35pm
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You can actually get some cute videos on UT, I found some nursery rhymes on there(although there was a REALLY strange wheels on the bus one lol) -------------
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Posted By: Bizzy
Date Posted: 21 July 2010 at 9:26pm
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when my boy was at kindy they used to ask if they could put henna drawings on the kids... and that was only on their hands. regardless of when you would put makeup on your girl i think there are lots of issues around putting makeup on 3 yr olds at kindy. ------------- http://www.myfitnesspal.com/weight-loss-ticker">
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Posted By: Renee & Lauren
Date Posted: 21 July 2010 at 9:50pm
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makeup should NOT be put on any child in daycare.
As for what we do - DD has had barbies since 3 and has bratz now. She does have a few mini skirts but we always make sure that she wears leggings with them most of the time.. Do what you think is best for your child and stuff what others think ------------- http://lilyslim.com">  http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: Kellyfer
Date Posted: 21 July 2010 at 10:41pm
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Eww, I am just thinking of the disgusting state of the stage makeup in my high school drama class - and we were teenage girls and generally quite hygeinic. I'd hate to think of the nasties floating round on communal DC makeup. Not to mention the allergies you had already mentioned. If it was a peanut allergy or something, it would have been a majorly different reaction (ie - noone at DC is allowed to bring peanut butter sandwiches). Don't think you are being OTT at all, and I totally agree that you should be able to say as a parent that you don't think its right for your 3 year old to be using makeup.
As for the youtube, at first I thought it was a bit of a lazy way to entertain children -but after reading what some people said about it being on at the end of the day, then maybe its ok as a wind-down kinda thing. But yea, it should definitely be age appropriate, and nothing over a g-rating should be shown to kiddies so young! And it should not be used as a babysitter, which would be my concern. G-strings for 8 year olds? Who the hell came up with that idea?!?!?! ------------- http://lilypie.com"> 
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Posted By: princesspumpkin
Date Posted: 22 July 2010 at 8:05am
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The makeup is pretty weird - and totally unhygienic! Facepainting, sure. Proper makeup...not so much.
There is some neat stuff on youtube - there are gorgeous old sesame street clips and kids music which we like checking out on a rainy day, but surely they should be getting your permission before showing your kids anything? Just my opinion anyhow... |
Posted By: crafty1
Date Posted: 22 July 2010 at 1:27pm
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Totally wrong imo. I think that make up on little girls and violent movies like Spiderman are the domain of parents not carers!
I wouldn't be happy paying a centre to mind my child and them stuffing them in front of that type of movie, but i might let them watch it at home. Farting clip tho, i'm happy with that! Except that they've shown such poor judgement in other areas that i'd worry what other clips they show too. ------------- http://lilypie.com">  
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Posted By: crafty1
Date Posted: 22 July 2010 at 1:28pm
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And g-strings for kids is so wrong i don't even have words to describe it!
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Posted By: kiwi2
Date Posted: 22 July 2010 at 2:06pm
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One thing that played on my mind last night in bed about this thread was the heading.
Daycare - am I just conservative? Now I know the written word can come across with different meanings and not what was intended so I might have this wrong but the voice in my head as I was reading it was that conservative had a negative towards it. Am I even making sense. lol. What I am trying to say is that conservative is not a bad thing and if you have morals and standards in which you want to raise your child then stick by them. Don't feel like you have to change what you believe in. I think a bit more conservatism could be a good thing personally but that is just my opinion. |
Posted By: Emmecat
Date Posted: 22 July 2010 at 6:28pm
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OMG I've just seen this and am angry -and grossed out- that a DC puts make up on children?! WTF? The u-tube thing, well I also dislike that but realise I may be in the minority not liking TV for kids. I don't know enough about U tube to know if there's kiddie appropriate stuff on there but anyway the content would be highly subjective IYKWIM. What suits one may not suit another.... Hmmmm I hope you get it sorted quickly. I don't think you're being conservative at all, I think you're being responsible and with any luck wil bring a few things to their attention as surely (judging by the feedback on here) you can't be the only parent who objects?? -------------   http://lilypie.com" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: Emmecat
Date Posted: 22 July 2010 at 6:29pm
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OMG?! ------------- http://lilypie.com" rel="nofollow">
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I don't know which is worse...the people who make this kind of product or the parents who buy it! Posted By: lisa85
Date Posted: 23 July 2010 at 1:48pm
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I haven't read the other responses but I totally agree that they were wrong in putting make up on a three year old. It really creeps me out how grown up little girls are made to look these days. One thing that has always bugged me is Pumpkin patch I think their clothes can be at times innapropriate for toddlers. Knee high boats and miniskirts for a two year old is a little too grown up in my opinion.
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Posted By: snugglebug
Date Posted: 23 July 2010 at 3:54pm
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I think it's absolutely shocking that they put makeup on your child once, and then again! That is terrible practice and I really do advise you to take it higher up the food chain if you can as I expect you would not be the only parent at the centre to have a problem with that, and I expect management might not think it's the greatest thing either!
I just wanted to comment on youtube though. It does depend what they were watching. I am a primary school teacher, I teach year 0-2 so 5 and 6 year olds, and I use youtube for kids songs- I teach them the words then we sing them together with the video. I also use it for dances and I have alphabet sound song which has been great in teaching them the alphabet sounds. So what I'm saying is if they are selecting educational material it's probably ok but from the sounds of it, they probably aren't. But there is an absolute mass of good stuff for kids on youtube and it is a great resource when used correctly. Don't feel bad for being conservative either, I am conservative myself and always will be, intend to bring my baby up that way and I wouldn't be happy about this sort of thing. I'd probably pull my child out. ------------- Me 28, DH 29 DS born 20 Nov 2010 (4 years old) #2 due October 7 http://lilypie.com" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: kazzam34
Date Posted: 23 July 2010 at 4:02pm
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My son goes to daycare and I don't think you are being too conservative. Little girls should be little girls, not mini teenagers. Make up is not appropriate.
Face paint is a different matter - there are lots of designs for girls which look great like butterflies and flowers. Those are fine, but I think you are right to object about make up. It is also wrong that the daycare have persisted in doing this even though you have voiced your concerns. But then I am probably quite conservative - I get quite angry when I look for clothes for my little niece and it's all sequined hot pants and knee high boots ie mini versions of grown up clubbing stuff. Daycares do seem to vary greatly - the one we use is the best I have ever been to. When we first came to NZ we went for a trial visit to a nearby daycare and it was so horrendous that I was in tears at the thought of him going there - it was dirty, cramped, the toys were broken, the only drink they got was from a water bottle you had to supply at the start of the day that were all thrown in to a box together, and despite being there for a day none of the staff tried to interact with our son at all. It was awful. The daycare we chose is just brilliant - clean, fantastic equipment, constant staff who take a real interest in the children as individuals, lovely food, lots of information about what's going on there and always happy to discuss any concerns we might have. Kazzam |
Posted By: Albrecht252092
Date Posted: 12 June 2020 at 4:01pm
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Thanks for your replies and recommendations It's really difficult to figure out everything on your own |