Do you know about "runners"?
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Topic: Do you know about "runners"?
Posted By: Delli
Subject: Do you know about "runners"?
Date Posted: 28 August 2010 at 10:52pm
Just asking as I've seen a few posts on another message board (not a parenting one) about how Lucas Ward and other cases where small children have gone missing are completely due to neglect and could have easily been avoided had the parents been watching them properly. Now I would rather not have this turn into a debate about any individual cases. Rather, I just wanted to know whether you had had experience with a "runner" before.
I was one. In my toddler/preschool years, only a minute or two was needed before I could be out the window, across the lawn, scaled the fence and was running across the paddock to who knows what (drains, main road, cowshed, rivers). Locks, childproofing, escapeproofing and even electric fences would slow me down but wouldn't stop me. My parents had four other children (older and younger) - no other runners, who were a breeze compared with me. The poster on the other forum seemed to have no comprehension as to how quickly children can move without warning. She said she escapeproofed the backyard and always checked every few mins to make sure everything was still fine. My parents went way over and above that and still couldn't contain me. There were too many close calls. I could have been another statistic but for luck (or "there but the grace of God" as my mother would put it.)
This lady just didn't seem to understand at all. I wondered if her children had never done anything naughty in the short space of time her back was turned. And so that got me thinking - probably most people don't have a runner but have you seen one in action? Do you know how scary they can be? I hope that there aren't too many people out there who think runners are just a result of bad parenting..... But you never know.
P.S. Sorry for the rather rambling post - it's hard to go back and edit on an iPod touch so hopefully this makes sense!
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Posted By: BeLoved
Date Posted: 28 August 2010 at 11:01pm
I have a friend whose child is a "runner" of sorts but mostly so far its when she is right there, but its amazing how quickly he moves and always straight for danger e.g. roads, water etc.
She did have one experience where she turned her back for not even a minute and he got out of the front door of a friends house and was walking along and actually on a main road luckily a passer by grabbed him off the road, and seconds later he was back in his mums arms. She is a great mum so its not like it was due to neglect just the fact that he is so dam quick!
You do hear other stories though like my Mum finding 3 kids playing on their bikes on a main road and when she found out who they belonged to after door knocking it turned out they were from a ladies house who was doing in home childcare (1 child was her own) and she was busy having a coffee with a visitor she had not realised the kids had got almost 100 metres away to the main road
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Posted By: AandCsmum
Date Posted: 28 August 2010 at 11:05pm
I'm beginning to wonder if my little man might be that way inclined, or he just wanted outside, he pushed over his chair to the back door, got up on it & opened the door, got off, moved his chair back & went out side. I was sitting at the table watching him the whole time. He then proceeded to play in the dog bowl which was filled with water from the rain, ie feet first.
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Posted By: NovemberMum
Date Posted: 28 August 2010 at 11:27pm
oh yes children can move pretty fast.
I remember when my brother was 2 and we (my parents and I )couldnt find him..looked in the back yard nope not there...someone (probably me ooops ) had left one of the gates open.
we found hin about 500 metres up the road and he was probably only gone about 5 minutes.
and I know with my daughter if I didnt close the gate when we are at home she would take off down the driveway and onto the street.
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Posted By: SquishysMum
Date Posted: 28 August 2010 at 11:45pm
I followed a runner in the mall one day, she made it quite an impressive distance before I caught up and took her back toward where she came from. Was so quick, her mum was looking in the shops next to where she'd run from, had no idea she'd gone quite so far.
I also remember clearly being about 10, and answering a knock at the door to find an old man holding my baby brother (who was about 2). He'd found him in the middle of the main road outside our house (SH6, fairly major road!). Fence was fixed fairly rapidly after that.
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Posted By: T_Rex
Date Posted: 29 August 2010 at 7:12am
Hehe, I used to race outside any chance I got apparently, only my target was always the nearest puddle. I used to lay face down in them and splash about. So a drowing risk in case I picked on deeper than I expected, and also my poor mum had to change me from head to toe every time. Apparently they got very good at keeping several doors shut between me and outside! I got especially good at this when mum was heavily pg with my younger sister and had to slow down a bit
My little brother (7 years younger) wasn't so much of a runner but more of a climber. He'd climb anything and was usually up and out of reach so fast. My mum had too many kids to watch him 24/7, so dad used to take just him all over the place, as he was often quite happy *helping* and without other kids to egg him on, he was a bit better behaved. Plus, I'm sure he still got up to all kinds of trouble, but my dad didn't panic as much as mum!
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Posted By: MrsMojo
Date Posted: 29 August 2010 at 7:25am
There are kids that aren't runners? How do I get one?
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Posted By: lizzle
Date Posted: 29 August 2010 at 7:48am
my kids aren't runners - well now they aren't. but they were pretty bad as toddlers.
my argument is that, sure you can watch them 24/7 and hey, you can even get them microchipped and GPS them. But why would you want to? Sure you'll have a "safe" klid, but you'll also have an adult who has no idea about boundaries, nbo idea about what is safe and what isn't and is who more likleyl than not, going to end up as some stat of boy racers.\
What happened to Lucas was a tragedy, but it happened, not because of neglect, but because a little boy had an accident.
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Posted By: kiwi2
Date Posted: 29 August 2010 at 8:43am
I had one. Lost him in singapore airport during a one hour lay over. Only lost for 10 minutes but the longest 10 mins of my life. I thought he had been abducted and sold in a child trafficing ring. I bought a leash after that for public places.
Nap time we had a lock on his door. That way when I was "sure he was sleeping" he was confined to a room. You don't check on them every 5 mins whilst they are asleep and usually don't go in until you hear them so they could have a good 1-2 hours on you by the time you find them missing.
We lived in a compound with a pool and everytime I went up to the office by the pool he would be wearing a flotation device because as soon as he saw the water he was running and jumping in. So many people would jump in after this 14 month old thinking he was going to drown. By this age he could jump off the diving board and swim to the side, climb out and run back onto the jumping board. I remember guys coming home from work and meeting their families at the pool seeing him and jumping in in office clothes, cell phones and shoes. I would try to stop them but it was too late in most cases.
I put him in daycare at a young age so that when I did things that preoccupied me he was somewhere with full attention. I was also lucky I lived in a compound so the security guards would never let a little kid out of the gates without his mum but it never got that far. The tank would have preoccupied him if he got past them. lol. The gates and walls were high enough to keep bad people out so they managed to contain a 2-4 year old.
So he is 9 now and pretty sensible. It was mainly getting him to 6 or 7 years safely. This was very hard to adapt to after having the angelic daughter who was my first born. All I had to say was no or explain not to do something and she followed my every word.
I had lots of preconceived ideas about topics like this before I had my son. Shrug off the comments and just put it down to her being lucky enough not to have a child who is a runner. I beleive in karma. All those nasty thoughts I would think about other peoples children when I just had the first placid child definately came back to bite me after the second. (and the third)
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Posted By: caliandjack
Date Posted: 29 August 2010 at 10:03am
I was with my cousin when her son went and hid (cause he'd had an accident in his pants) and we couldn't find him. We were at his grandparents house which doesn't have a fenced frontage and is open to the road.. quiet but still the road.
It was horrendeous, we called him and walked up and down the street trying to find him and he wouldn't come took about 15 minutes till we found him hidding, his poor mum was distraught. He would have only been around 3 at the time.
It could have so easily have been worse if he'd wandered a couple of houses down to the end of the street and the busier road.
Some kids go from standing to running, never mind the walking bit in between. They will take off.
The same people who can't understand runners probably hate reins too, can't tell you the amount of times the reins have saved my brother and even DH from getting lost or running out onto a busy road.
What happened to Lucas and Aisling is very sad and tragic, and shows doesn't matter how vigilant you are kids so easily wander off and have a nasty accident.
News like theirs always makes me hug my family tighter as it could so easily happen to anyone of us.
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Posted By: High9
Date Posted: 29 August 2010 at 10:30am
I wasn't a runner, although my mum had a kiddy leash for me jic. I only ever ran off once but they knew where I had gone because I had been asking all day...
I haven't had any experience with kids as runners but I CAN see it happening, the whole thing about neglect, well it could be in some cases, but not all.
I think little kids are so curious, and when you think about it; they just want to learn about the world around them.
I know a couple of cases in the news over the past couple of years where kids have wandered off their parents have been 'doing something else' so maybe not watching them as closely as they maybe should have been...
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Posted By: Mum2ET
Date Posted: 29 August 2010 at 12:54pm
Ella used to be a "runner"- man she could run fast, especially in public. It was especially hard being pregnant and trying to run after her. I had a kiddy "leash" for her, but you can't have it on them all the time. Thankfully she is now growing out of it and I now actually take her to the mall without being worried that I am going to lose her.
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Posted By: Bizzy
Date Posted: 29 August 2010 at 2:31pm
oh yeah i have runners... my oldest is 6 now so not quite as bad. when he was younger though he was terrible. i have lost him at the zoo, sylvia park, a mall in hamilton, all sorts of places... Oh and in fact the worse was when he stopped traffic at a very busy main road and was brought back by a stranger - we were on the way to my nanas funeral and the car was parked on the front lawn right by the road he was found on! he took his younger brother to kindy one day, across a very busy main road and to this day every time i hear a horn while i am inside i look for the kids!
i think though because he was a runner i would take extra precautions and my family all knew what he was like so would be extra vigilant too... i could never leave him play outside alone and even when we fully fenced the yard he got out by climbing the compost heap! His younger brother doesnt run away - but will go with his older brother!
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Posted By: pumpkino
Date Posted: 29 August 2010 at 2:39pm
I was a runner. Apparently I ran away at least once a day from when I could walk until I was about 4 or 5. Our street was relatively quiet but the next one was a very main road - the one time I made it that far a passing police car picked me up. My poor mother met them on the street as she was sprinting after me with rollers in her hair, lol!
Another time I had been missing for a few hours and my parents were really worried, called the police etc. Turned out I was stuck in the next door neighbour's cat door - they were away so I was only discovered when someone (a fireman who had been called to look down drains etc) happened to look out our kitchen window into their garden while having a cup of tea!
That story had a happy ending but it so easily could have gone another way. My parents were not neglectful by any stretch of the imagination - but every now and then you have to turn your back, whether it's to tend to another child or just to go to the loo, and that's all it takes.
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Posted By: crafty1
Date Posted: 29 August 2010 at 3:17pm
yeah i think it sucks to have a go at the parents/caregivers of kids in these cases. Of course it could have been prevented if the nana had had a time machine or the ability to see into the future but she did not. She was doing her best (as we all do) and he just got away (as they all do at some point in time).
Very, very sad and i cannot imagine the guilt and grief that nana and her child (the parent) must be going through. Really cannot imagine it.
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Posted By: kiwi2
Date Posted: 29 August 2010 at 3:26pm
crafty1 wrote:
yeah i think it sucks to have a go at the parents/caregivers of kids in these cases. Of course it could have been prevented if the nana had had a time machine or the ability to see into the future but she did not. She was doing her best (as we all do) and he just got away (as they all do at some point in time).
Very, very sad and i cannot imagine the guilt and grief that nana and her child (the parent) must be going through. Really cannot imagine it. |
Agree totally with this. I don't think there is a single parent out there that can say they have an eye on their kid 100% of the time. I have given my kids a bag of chippies before to keep them occupied whilst I do stuff like get the groceries etc. It could have been anyone.
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Posted By: pikelets
Date Posted: 29 August 2010 at 7:16pm
I was at the mall with my friend and her 3yr old, he let go of his mums hand and...raaaaaaaaaaaaaaannnnnnnn! Almost to the other end of the mall! I was in shock at how fast he ran and wouldn't stop! I will always remember it and I tell people that story when the subject comes up! Gave me a fright!
I'm lucky as so far (touchwood) DS doesnt run off. I have never been against reins either and agree that people that don't like them just don't get it.
My heart goes out to Lucas' and Aisling families, it does only take a second and is every parents nightmare.
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Posted By: fairy1
Date Posted: 29 August 2010 at 7:34pm
My oldest neice was a runner but in her case it was due to bad parenting ( not sure if she still is as we dont see them much now they live in a different city).
I know not all kids are runners due to bad parenting, and in some cases its just horrible that there children go missing.
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Posted By: Daizy
Date Posted: 29 August 2010 at 8:24pm
My girls aren't really runners but they have definitely had their moments... Its almost scarier because when you think you can trust walking beside you and they suddenly bolt you aren't prepared at all.
I have had one recently bolt out the front door (we were going out the door but i turned back to grab my handbag) and she got right out to the road with me chasing right behind her. I was just very thankful the street was quiet for that second, just a few minutes later I was almost hit by some crazy driver racing around the corner.
I have lost one in the mall once, I still can't work out how it happened, we had just had lunch and once again I turned to grab my bag and she was gone, we frantically searched for about 20 minutes until someone else who had her description found her just following another family.. it is scary! And really I don't think there is really that much you can do to stop them from bolting, I think my girls have learnt from experience that getting lost is scary and make sure they keep by my side where ever we go.
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Posted By: Delli
Date Posted: 29 August 2010 at 8:53pm
Phew, so glad that other people know. My mum used to describe it like one of those cartoon characters who speed off, leaving their speech bubble hanging in the air behind them. I'd be talking to her as she was getting washing out of the washing machine or hanging it on the line. Suddenly, the conversation would stop and I'd be gone. They had a white leather harness and leash for when they went to town. I was also in a bed before 12months as I used to climb the cot rails using my toes (putting the round rail in between my big toe and second toe).... I bet she was glad I was the only runner out of the five! I was diabolical I gather from the stories she tells.....
I don't think Jude is a runner - he tends to stay pretty close to me even when all the doors are open or we are outside on the lawn. However, even though he isn't a runner - he has still had his moments. Like the other day he was with DP in the lounge playing happily, DP turned to do something for a minute or two only to find Jude had followed me outside to where I was doing horsefeed - I caught him going down the concrete stairs backwards and called out to DP. Luckily, he is very good at negotiating stairs (he's still only crawling) but I'd still rather be there when he is going down them on the concrete at the moment. And it was all good because we were there - he wasn't running away, he was just following me.
It is very ironic - everyone had been teasing me about how Jude was going to be a runner - even before he was born (I got a leash for my baby shower ) and he is very active but it turns out it may be my sisters boy who is two weeks younger than Jude who could be the runner! You put him down, he sees an open door and he bolts for it (Still only crawling as well). At Jude's party today there were a few cries of "There's a baby escaping out the door behind you!". My cousin (2 and a half) is also a runner but getting better.
For sure there are SOME cases where the parents are to blame for kids being out on the road or similar. But for someone to say they don't know how it can happen at all seems very bizarre to me - especially when they have kids themselves! Even if they don't have a runner - surely ALL kids still have had moments where they have scared the cr*p out of their parents!
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Posted By: lizzle
Date Posted: 29 August 2010 at 9:27pm
taine is my runner, but jake is the one who took off. he climbed the locked gate and went down the road - crossed botanical, and featherston. we couldn't figure out where he was as the gates were all locked. I found his wet pants down the garden so we called the police who picked him up. Scary as.
one of my kids mother lost her 1 year old. they have...6(?) kids and mum assumed baby was with one of the older ones. turned out he wasn't and had wandered down the road onto the roundabout for a play. Apparenlty a truck had stopped for him and the driver got out looking for a parent. Woman grabbed him and called the police. mum was reunited. She funnily enough was saying how bad she felt as when Aisling went missing, she was the first to say how the mother should have been watching more carefully.
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Posted By: my4beauties
Date Posted: 30 August 2010 at 10:04am
We have a 'runner'. It's horrible. Our house has been barracaded as much as possible to keep our boy in. It started over summertime when he was 2 1/2. He started escaping from the house when a door was left open (usually the main garage door as it's attached to the house and he could get through the door from the house to garage, and then out the garage door if open). We had visitors over and we saw Jett go out to the backyard, and knew it was safe out there (and not knowing then he was a 'runner'.) Next thing we hear people calling out from the front asking if we'd lost a little boy (been a matter of 5 mins). He'd gone from being out the back, to going through the house out the front and down the road! Our elderly neighbours saw him walking alone and went up to him and he showed them where he lived. It happened one more time a week or so later, and some man who lives down the saw road him, and himself having a grandchild that goes walkabout knew to get hold of him and take him home. We noticed after 2 mins he wasn't around the house so Dh went down the driveway (we live down a ROW) and saw this man holding Jett's hand talking to other neighbours to see where he came from. After that we got a safety gate to put up from our house to the garage so he can't get out that way and have a chain across the front door and have it on 24/7.
BUT. The scariest time he went missing was from my mum's house. Ava was a few weeks old, I'd gone to my mum's house and was feeding Ava in the lounge. Jett and my mum had gone into one of the bedrooms. Mum then went out through another bedroom exterior door into the backyard. Unbeknown to her, he'd followed her quietly and instead of going out the backyard, he went the other way out the front gate which she was about to close but hadn't got there yet. She lives down the road from the Mall, and he walked himself down there! I saw my mum in the backyard, but wondered where Jett was after about 2 mins (literally!) So I stopped feeding Ava, went to look in the bedrooms, then outside and asked mum where he was. She didn't know either. So we went straight out the front and could not see him down the road. All my family live next to each other (my dad owns the properties and my siblings rent out the houses). So I hoped he'd just gone to one of my sisters houses so we searched all around our properties. I went down the road and were asking people if he'd seen him. It was a horrible gut-wrenching question "have you seen a little blonde boy walking on his own". I was calling out his name, went around the block as on the other side of the block is a main road and I prepared myself to see him lying in the middle of the road with cars stopped all around him, but when I got there all was normal thankfully! Anyhow after 20-30 mins I was about to call the police when I got a call from my mum who'd been searching down at the mall when someone came out to her (who we'd asked on the street if she's seen him) who said an announcement had been made over the PA system about a boy being found in the CARPARK! So had taken him back inside the mall to the information. So my mum went and picked him up from there. Gah, utterlly awful awful time!!! Sooo relieved to get him back! So we watch him like a hawk wherever we go, and NEVER leave other people to watch him, as they just think 'he'll be fine' but they do not know how quick he is, and how quiet he is when he's up to something! We also used a child harness on him out in public as he's likely to run out onto the road, or away from us and he's soo fast and doesn't listen when you call him to come back. I can't wait til he's grown out of this stage, but seeing Lucas at 4 yrs old doing it, I know now to not think jett will be out of this running stage by the time he's that age.
You can't watch your children 24/7, you can't shadow them when they're playing but you HAVE to make sure their environment is as safe as possible and never assume someone else is watching them for you. You should always know where they are. My older 2 children have never been 'runners' so this is all new to us, but my Dh is paronoid about childrens safety and is always over-the-top, but children are unpredicable and you have to be smarter than them and foresee any hazards.
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Posted By: lilfatty
Date Posted: 30 August 2010 at 1:57pm
I'd say Elias would be a runner .. if he could walk
Isabelle on the other hand would do anything to get out of walking ..
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Posted By: MissAngel
Date Posted: 30 August 2010 at 2:37pm
I was a runner and a master escape artist.
Mum was telling me how one morning she got up (always before us) but I was awake and had opened the front door, gone down 20 concrete steps and was trying to drag the rubbish bin inside (I was 3). Mum started putting the security chain on, but oh no, Alex got that undone and went outside. She got an extra lock put on but Alex got a chair and unlocked that and went outside. Then she took the key away, but Alex found that and unlocked the door and went outside!!! I was terrible.
Once mum walked into the kitchen to flick on the jug and out the door I went. When she came back into the lounge seconds later I was gone and across the road trying to climb thru the big storm water drain grate to get a ball i'd thrown in it the previous day.
Kids are so mental and I feel really sorry for Lucas' Nan that it happened on her watch. That poor woman will NEVER forgive herself.
Luckly at our house, the gates are locked at the top so even I have an issue reaching them - theres no way Thomas can get out. He's a runner - any chance he gets and he's off.
He's got out the gate before we moved the locks and Mum found him standing in the middle of the road.
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Posted By: WRXnKids
Date Posted: 30 August 2010 at 5:32pm
hehe had to have a wee laugh at the stuck in cat door story that is soo something Josh would do.
I was a runner and Josh is a runner. I could unlatch the cot from a very young age and get out. Mum reminds me alot about the time she took me out to get the mail with her and the phone started ringing so she rushed me back inside but the door didnt shut properly behind us and in the time she put me down and grabbed the phone i was gone. I walked a couple of blocks away to the swings outside plunket to play. I was missing for ages the radio stations were asking people to look out for me and police were looking. Eventually some people id never met but knew my parent picked me up.
Hope Josh never does that to me but we have high locks on all the doors to outside now because from as soon as he could walk he could work a lock and dragging toys or chairs to stand on has always been a problem
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Posted By: pesky
Date Posted: 11 September 2010 at 9:02pm
This is fascinating (and scary).. I've never heard of the term "runners". Thanks for all your stories, it's a great heads-up.
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Posted By: HoneybunsMa
Date Posted: 11 September 2010 at 9:58pm
DD's gonna be a runner I can see it! She follows everyone to the back door and is now sticking her hands out the catdoor mum opened the door to go take the washing out one day and DD had run past her and onto the deck before mum could even pick the washing up.
Problem is our deck has no rails on it so she could easily walk off it. Must get onto that one actually!
Going to have to watch her!
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Date Posted: 12 September 2010 at 9:07am
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Posted By: Shelt
Date Posted: 12 September 2010 at 8:11pm
DD is prone to disappearing the minute I take my eyes off her. She doesn't like to hold my hand and she can be standing right next to me in a shop while I pay and the next minute I look down and she's gone. We have a fully fenced backyard but every so often someone leaves the gate unlached and she disappears on to the driveway. Gives me a heartattack every time because we share the drive with 3 other houses and some of them drive quite fast. I've found her every time before she's been gone very long but each time it gives me the willies about what could happen to her if I don't find her quick enough.
Gabrielle is good at distracting me too so she can make an escape The other day we were leaving the park (walking) and she pointed at something and said some words and while I was looking and trying to work out what she was saying she slipped her hand out of mine and ran back towards the park. Cheeky monkey!
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Posted By: amme_eilyk
Date Posted: 13 September 2010 at 12:26pm
i ran away from the supermarket and made it two blocks. fortunately someone found me and brought me back
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Posted By: RicKer
Date Posted: 13 September 2010 at 12:51pm
I was a 'runner'. Mum always tells me about when i walked off while my family was at the local pools. I was 2 at the time and they looked everywhere completly petrified ild fallen in the pool or something. They eventualy found me at a park talking to an old lady that was trying to find out where i came from.
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Posted By: Jacobsmumma
Date Posted: 13 September 2010 at 2:11pm
OMG, now I'm so worried my little man will turn into a runner! Apparantly most mornings when I woke I would sneek out the house and walk up to my Grandma's house for breakfast (we lived in the bush in the Northern Territory so it was safe at the time) and she would always call my Mum to tell her I was there and she'd bring me back. Not sure what type of locks, if any, we had on the doors but I can't imagine my boy doing that now, ekk!
I think I will invest in some reigns.
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Posted By: kiwi2
Date Posted: 13 September 2010 at 2:33pm
To know if you have a runner or not. lol I think my biggest differences between my runner and non runners were:
Could not go anywhere in public without my hand holding his.
Never took my eyes off him without him being physically attached to me.
Constant anxiety over where he is even at home.
Didn't part with the reigns until he was school aged even though we didn't still use them.
Supermarket shopping just wasn't worth the grief. Always in the trolley never walking in the store or he was left home with a babysitter.
Locks on his doors for sleep times.
As I mentioned earlier I lost him in the airport when I was distracted with bags and airport security staff. So obviously I didn't go by the above rules 100% of the time but those are the key differencces that defined him from my other kids.
For those of you with runners do you have anything else to add to help those who suspect they have runners but aren't too sure. lol
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Posted By: _SMS_
Date Posted: 04 February 2011 at 7:39pm
Just bumping this thread again to have a look through,
Seems i have a runner too It is getting so stressful. She always finds trouble in seconds thats all it takes.
Since turning two dd has learnt to get out the gate, she has now also started climbing the stairs to our deck. If she falls it will be a couple of metres onto concrete. But she keeps trying to climb the gate. Because she runs off she runs up the stairs and climbs the gate quickly & being silly she is more likely to fall.
DD is only two i hate to think what she will be like at three
I never let dd walk anywhere while out, she wont hold my hand for long and it ends up me chasing her everywhere.
In the supermarket she will take the belt off and stand up no matter what i try to get her to stop. In the pram she will undo the belts and turn around and try jump out. Nothing i have tried works. She doesnt listen to me at all and i havent found a way to make her listen either
What are some hint or tips for those with runners????
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Posted By: Nothing
Date Posted: 04 February 2011 at 8:18pm
SMS, have you tried a houdini strap on the pram straps? You can get them for use in a car seat, and I dont see why you couldnt use one on your pram? I hope you can work something out, bug hugs
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Posted By: kiwi2
Date Posted: 04 February 2011 at 9:07pm
Reigns or a leash. After watching that james bolger doco on tv last week I would have them even if I didn't have a runner. But we found them fantastic with our runner. Bugger everyone else and their opinions. Better to be safe than sorry.
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Posted By: Raspberryjam
Date Posted: 04 February 2011 at 9:08pm
Milla ran straight across the road when she was almost 2 , I was enormously pregnant and luckily it was a quiet street, the next time she ran off through the mall and almost out to the other door and carpark just after I had had Portia - she is getting better, but I bought a wrist strap and a double buggy to trap her.
Thinking about what could happen if Im not careful with her just about makes me throw up and cry all at once
They are soo bloody fast!
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Posted By: Bizzy
Date Posted: 04 February 2011 at 10:00pm
_SMS_ wrote:
I never let dd walk anywhere while out, she wont hold my hand for long and it ends up me chasing her everywhere.
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thats where you are going wrong, you hold her hand! i found wrist straps great with my runner.
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Posted By: _SMS_
Date Posted: 05 February 2011 at 7:09am
I will hold her hand but i end up dragging her because she will fall on the floor screaming if i dont let go Thats normally the time i pick her up chuck her in the car and go home before i scream too.
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Posted By: Bizzy
Date Posted: 05 February 2011 at 10:28am
_SMS_ wrote:
I will hold her hand but i end up dragging her because she will fall on the floor screaming if i dont let go Thats normally the time i pick her up chuck her in the car and go home before i scream too. |
i have on more than one occasion dragged - literally - my son through the mall because he refused to hold my hand. he certainly learnt i meant business.
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Posted By: AuntieSarah
Date Posted: 05 February 2011 at 11:10am
I have a runner too I find it frustrating when friends with children the same age don't understand, I'm sure they think it's something I'm doing wrong. Eg - going out for lunch my friend can just sit and eat while her daughter wanders around. I am out of my seat every 30 seconds as ds runs to the carpark, the kitchen, anywhere you don't want him (and this is at a very child friendly restaurant with a huge playground and grass area to run around on).
I have a harness and anyone who has a problem with that can get stuffed lol. I'm pregnant and have a problem with my hip so if I have to run after him even 10 metres I'm stuffed - I will do it of course but will be in a lot of pain for the next couple of days. If we are out he's either in the buggy, a trolley, or attached to the harness.
I also find the thought of other people looking after him really scary, dh's aunt said recently she wants to have him sometime but I just don't trust people to realise how quick he is and how adept at unlocking & opening doors, gates etc. And she is a bit older and wouldn't keep up with him! MIL is the only person I really trust to look after him (apart from dh of course).
I will never forget the day he figured out how to unlock and open the front door - I came to find the door open and ran out to see him on the road with a car coming We now have a deadlock with the key kept high on a hook. Thank god he didn't shut the door behind him or I would've wasted time searching the house for him not realising he was outside.
It's nice to know that other people have the same issue (not nice for you guys but YKWIM).
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Posted By: BessieBear
Date Posted: 05 February 2011 at 3:04pm
Not really a runner Ds is more independant. But ine afternoon during his arvo sleep, he managed to open his window climb out (a 1m drop) and come around to the back door and knock on it. I had a heart attack.
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Posted By: my4beauties
Date Posted: 05 February 2011 at 8:16pm
Jett's started escaping the house again . There is only one way he can get out now, and that's the front bedroom window and he's learnt to climb out it. Since R became friends with the boy who lives at the front of our driveway, J wants to go and play at his house too. He got out the front door recently when the older kids kept coming and going from neighbours to our house, and Jett followed them over there. He saw what toys they have in their house and is now obsessed with them and keeps wanting to go and play there. The first time he got out and went to their house, they weren't home but he got into their house and went and got the toys to bring back to our house! Anyway, yesterday afternoon R went to play there, and J got upset he couldn't go. I got busy with bathing Ava and when I came out I instantly said to Dh "where's J?" He was busy playing on his phone and didn't take any notice but I said straight away "Check if he's gone to the neighbours!" Just as I was walking up the hallway, I saw J through the front door window on the front porch! I then heard a knock and it was the neighbour's mum bringing J back as we've told them he's a runner and if you see him without us, he's taken off! Then 7am this morning, G barges into our room yelling "J's climbing out R's window!" So we bolted out of bed and caught him on the front porch again. So today we went and bought window latches. No more risking it. It's exhausting not being able to be relax in your own home!
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Posted By: my4beauties
Date Posted: 05 February 2011 at 8:23pm
AuntieSarah wrote:
I also find the thought of other people looking after him really scary, dh's aunt said recently she wants to have him sometime but I just don't trust people to realise how quick he is and how adept at unlocking & opening doors, gates etc. And she is a bit older and wouldn't keep up with him! MIL is the only person I really trust to look after him (apart from dh of course).
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We are exactly the same. I'm going to put a stop to my mum having J actually, because we've heard from my brother that J got out from my mum's house to the front house and my SIL (who lives in the house in front) saw J and took him back to my mum's. She didn't even realise he'd gone . So even though she KNOWS what he's like, she's still not careful enough with him. I think people get to blaze about having J and think it'll all be ok. But it's not. He can't be trusted for a second. If he can escape from our house when we've put every security measure in place to keep him from getting out, then he'll easily escape from other peoples homes. I've even warned his kindy what he's like!
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Posted By: SquishysMum
Date Posted: 06 February 2011 at 5:39pm
My daughter was returned by a neighbour today... she had got to the top of our shared driveway and was picked up as he drove in.
I hadn't even noticed she'd slipped out, I've started locking the door today after a couple of other escapes, but DH went out and didn't lock it behind him, and I think she'd gone looking for him. Of course, it was my fault for letting her out .
I'm so pleased I know most of our neighbours (the 20 others down our driveway, and the next driveway over) so people actually KNOW who DD belongs to, but it makes me sick to think she was almost at the road, and our driveway IS really busy (well, with 21 houses, it would be!). I just feel like cr@p right now.
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Posted By: kiwi2
Date Posted: 06 February 2011 at 6:59pm
squishysmum Don't beat yourself up too much and don't focus on the what if's. She is safe and ok. Focus on how you can stop it in the future. Not just with the 1 strategy (door lock) but with multiple so if she gets thru one hopefully another will stop her. Have you looked into changing the door handle. Lever handles are easier than round ones to open for little ones. Getting a safety first door handle for adults only type device. We had one for round door handles where you have to squeeze the two sides in to open the door. Let me know what type off handle you have as I may still have one I could send your way. Also put a baby gate on the front door. Everyone has to step over it but at least the little one can't. If you know people are coming take it down for that visit otherwise everyone is pretty understanding. A few dollars and preparation are well worth it when you consider the consequence.
Take care. It happens. If I felt guilty everytime my runner got out I would have dug myself in a ditch by now. Thank goodness he is turning 10 and well over his runner days. Give her lots of hugs and count your blessings. She will grow out of it.
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Posted By: AuntieSarah
Date Posted: 06 February 2011 at 7:21pm
Squishys mum, it does make you feel awful doesn't it. Like kiwi2 said though don't beat yourself up about it Just concentrate on how to stop it happening in the future.
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Posted By: SquishysMum
Date Posted: 06 February 2011 at 8:39pm
Thanks guys, we are going to go and buy a push-lock for the top of the door like we have on the ranchslider, then it can be easily locked without having to find a key every time (key on both sides, glass door). She can open round handles anyway, the baby gate sadly isn't an option due to layout of the house but the pushlock should keep her in. Now to head to the shop tomorrow and get one!
Feeling a bit better now, it really does just happen so quickly!
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Posted By: kiwi2
Date Posted: 06 February 2011 at 9:35pm
Glad you are feeling better and you have a plan. By baby gate I meant in the actual front door frame. But with some of the newer aluminium frames it is hard to have one in there with the door being shut at the same time.
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Posted By: My3Sons
Date Posted: 07 February 2011 at 7:30pm
Posted By: Hopes
Date Posted: 09 February 2011 at 8:46am
I think our neighbour has one of these! I was just taking a walk with Jacob and found her 2-y-o little girl next to a busy road with no nappies on... I took her back, and her poor Mum was mortified, she'd put her on the potty and left her for one moment, and she'd scarpered. Poor Mum!
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Posted By: my4beauties
Date Posted: 09 February 2011 at 10:29am
Squishysmum, don't beat yourself up at all! It can happen to anyone! My Dh is THE most paranoid about children's safety and yet our boy has escaped when on his watch, so know that you're not the only one it's happen too.
Eek hopes!! That poor mum!
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