Homemade bread
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Topic: Homemade bread
Posted By: pekay
Subject: Homemade bread
Date Posted: 03 September 2010 at 11:55am
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We bought a breadmaker a few weeks ago and loving the whole fresh bread thing. However, I can't help but feel like we are not getting what we need in the bread. We mostly make plain white bread and a wholemeal one from Allison/simon Holst. We have yet to explore adding seeds etc.
Does anyone know what needs to be in bread to make it 'healthier'? I am thinking of things like low GI?? Wholegrain to keep the bowels moving? 
These are probably stupid questions, but becuase we are 100% homemade bread now, we want to make sure we are doing it right. TIA! |
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Posted By: Gardengirl
Date Posted: 03 September 2010 at 12:30pm
What size is your breadmaker pekay? I have a couple of fave recipes - a 50/50 white and wholemeal one that we love and a cheese and bacon loaf, also a multigrain recipe. I'll email you them later 
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Posted By: pekay
Date Posted: 03 September 2010 at 12:36pm
| Thanks- -I think it can do both 750gm and 1kg loaves...?? |
Posted By: Gardengirl
Date Posted: 03 September 2010 at 12:50pm
Same size as ours. Thought I'd best check as a friend ended up with bread everywhere after putting a recipe in her smaller machine that was meant for a bigger one  Just off out but will do that later. I have just taken the 50/50 loaf out of ours 
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Posted By: nuts_nats
Date Posted: 03 September 2010 at 3:09pm
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Here is the 1kg mulitgrain one I use in our breville. I have adapted the recipe and use half wholemeal flour and half bread flour so its not too solid and then add seeds etc
400 mL water 2 1/2 T oil 2 tsp sea salt 2 T honey 2 C bread flour (hi grade flour) 2 C wholemeal flour 2 T milk powder 2 T gluten flour 1/3 c oats 1/4 c sunflower seeds 2 T each of chia, linseed, sesame seeds 2 1/2 tsp edmonds surebake yeast Use wholewheat setting on breadmaker I have had lots of people tell me this loaf is really yum! Its healthy and comes out a good texture. You can experiment with different seeds and things, sometimes I add oat bran and LSA as well
Good luck! ------------- http://lilypie.com">  
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Posted By: monikah
Date Posted: 03 September 2010 at 3:12pm
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i just go nuts and add a bunch of stuff like linseed, extra grains, really crushed nuts, ummm a whole bunch of other stuff but ive been up since 3am and my brain has switched off. i just went nuts down the bin aisle thingy. if its small and looks like it could go in bread then i through it in. it takes a bit of trial and error and i find i put so many grains in it could be a wee bit crumbly at times but play around with it and see what you get. we only ever use wholemeal flour too ------------- 
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Posted By: Mrs_B
Date Posted: 03 September 2010 at 3:29pm
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I'm relatively new to this breadmaking business and all the loaves I make are really dense and heavy! What am I doing wrong? Is it possible to make a light and fluffy loaf in a breadmaker? -------------  
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Posted By: Hopes
Date Posted: 03 September 2010 at 3:45pm
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I buy a mix of multi-grains from bin inn, and substitute about 1/2 to 3/4 of a cup of them for the same amount of flour in my white bread mix - it tastes great -------------   
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Posted By: Bizzy
Date Posted: 03 September 2010 at 3:51pm
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i have a gourmet baker and some of the stuff included is sunflower seeds, walnuts, raisins, caraway seeds, honey...
this one sounds nice... a chunky nut bread for a 750g loaf it has 1 1/8 cup of water 2 tblspns olive oil 2 tblspns honey 3 cups highgrade flour 1 tsp salt 1 tsp surebake yeast 1/4 sunflower seeds 3/8 cup chopped walnuts everything except the last two ingredients are added in in the beginning and the rest after it has been mixed - my machine gives a couple of beeps to let me know when to add the extra stuff. ------------- http://www.myfitnesspal.com/weight-loss-ticker"> 
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Posted By: pekay
Date Posted: 03 September 2010 at 4:06pm
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mmm....sounds good!
So, do the seeds etc make the bread good for you, and not so much the type of flour? MrsB- my bread has been perfect almost every time. Maybe check the order you need to add things. They are probably the same for all machines, but mine suggests the following order...Liquid ingrediants, fats/oils, dry ingrediants (flour/salt/sugar etc), then yeast last. Also, mine suggests making a small hollow in the centre of the flour and add the yeast there (apparently it ensures water and yeast dont make contact before the kneading process). |
Posted By: nuts_nats
Date Posted: 03 September 2010 at 4:31pm
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White flour has the fibre and nutrient rich part of the grain removed so really has not much nutritional value at all. Wholegrain flour is just ground up grains, so all the good stuff So it is both the seeds or grains you add in and the type of flour you use which makes the bread good for you. The healthiest kind of flour would probably be a stone ground wholegrain, but its a trade off between having a decently fluffy loaf and also cost! I find using 1/2 wholemeal, 1/2 white plus adding more seeds gives a healthy and inexpensive loaf which tastes good! 100% wholegrain I think is quite nice but it wasn't as popular in our house lol.
You could throw in some kibbled grains also ------------- http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: AandCsmum
Date Posted: 03 September 2010 at 5:47pm
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Mrs B, I had real issues with breadmakers until I got the Breville, silver cased one. I seriously bought & returned 3 before I got this one.
Also I find different times of the day give different loaves. You also may need to adjust amounts slightly. ------------- Kel http://lilypie.com"> 
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Posted By: jano1
Date Posted: 03 September 2010 at 6:44pm
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Hope I'm not threadjacking but what brands do people like? We need to buy one. ------------- http://www.thebump.com/?utm_source=ticker&utm_medium=UBB&utm_campaign=tickers"> |
Posted By: 4thtymlucky
Date Posted: 03 September 2010 at 8:27pm
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The seeds will be a real hit
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Posted By: Bizzy
Date Posted: 03 September 2010 at 9:08pm
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jano1 my breadmaker is an old L V martin breadmaker... i dont think they even exist anymore! ------------- http://www.myfitnesspal.com/weight-loss-ticker">
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Posted By: LouD
Date Posted: 03 September 2010 at 9:15pm
| I got given this breadmaker, and used it for the first time today and it didnt turn out very well at all |
Posted By: myfullhouse
Date Posted: 03 September 2010 at 9:37pm
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We have a breadmaker (Breville) but I don't use it all the time. Reading this thread has made me wonder about using it all the time. Has anyone done the maths on whether it is cheaper to use the breadmaker than it is to buy bread?
ETA: and do you make a loaf a day? Or does it last a few days? We go through about 4 loaves of bread a week and most of that is for DH ------------- Lindsey 
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Posted By: jano1
Date Posted: 03 September 2010 at 10:04pm
Thats what I want to know too- is it cheaper? We also go through about 4 loaves a week. ------------- http://www.thebump.com/?utm_source=ticker&utm_medium=UBB&utm_campaign=tickers"> |
Linzy wrote:Posted By: pekay
Date Posted: 03 September 2010 at 10:06pm
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We have a brevile one. It is probably their cheapest. It was $140 on special. The shop person couldnt tell me how the more expensive one was better, so we stuck with the cheap one.
I have no idea if it is cheaper in general, but I think it is for us. At least twice a week I was either buying a speciality bread form the supermarket or a pack of fresh rolls. With these each being $4, then at least 3-4 loaves of freyas bread at approx $4 each...that was around $20 on bread
We are going through a loaf a day, however once we get a better knife we will hopefully be able to cut thiner slices...DF is a shicker with his inch thick bread! Oh,.....and nothing beats waking up to the smell of fresh bread in the morning
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Posted By: myfullhouse
Date Posted: 04 September 2010 at 9:24am
I know, I love it! When we first bought the breadmaker DH and I managed to eat a loaf in a sitting
Might see if I can cost it out, may not be cheaper for us as we just buy the bread when we do the fruit and vege and I think it is only a couple $$ per loaf ------------- Lindsey
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Posted By: mollycat
Date Posted: 04 September 2010 at 12:28pm
We had this problem and started to prime the yeast before we put it in the machine. I put 1/2c hot water mixed with 1tsp sugar in the bread machine pail, then mix in the yeast. I then pop that on our fireplace mantle (as it's warm) until the yeast goes all frothy. then I chuck in all the other ingredients and away you go. (This works even if you are putting it on delay as well). Prior to that, it was like the yeast wasn't activating for whatever reason. ------------- http://tickers.cafemom.com"> 
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Posted By: Bizzy
Date Posted: 04 September 2010 at 2:00pm
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i have been thinking about how much we dont use our breadmaker and was wondering about doing rolls... would it be a simple case of using any loaf recipe then taking it out after it was kneaded and making rolls? or would i need a special recipe? ------------- http://www.myfitnesspal.com/weight-loss-ticker">
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Posted By: myfullhouse
Date Posted: 04 September 2010 at 2:06pm
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I think you need a roll recipe Bizzy. Mum wanted to make rolls one time we were there but didn't have the ingredients so used a french loaf recipe and they turned out quite hard on the outside but lovely and soft on the inside ------------- Lindsey
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Posted By: Shezamumof3
Date Posted: 04 September 2010 at 4:16pm
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I went out and got a Sunbeam Bakehouse today! It can make up to 1kg loafs.
It came with a book full of recipes, even Gluten free ones. It cost $219, whic was pretty good I thought. ------------- |
Posted By: MrsH23
Date Posted: 04 September 2010 at 5:58pm
I had a friend price out the cost of making loaves and including power etc and it was something like $1 a loaf or less I think. I'll be getting another breadmaker once we are a bit more settled but I loved our Tefal machine (although I couldn't figure out how to do very good loaves  but they were edible!!)------------- Lisa mummy to Ryan http://www.alterna-tickers.com"> 
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Posted By: nuts_nats
Date Posted: 04 September 2010 at 6:42pm
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I worked out the cost per loaf to be about 1.50, so a good saving since the bread we buy is 3-4 per loaf! But you have to factor in buying the machine if you don't already have one as well (we didn't). Still I estimated it would pay itself off within 6 months ------------- http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: Febgirl
Date Posted: 04 September 2010 at 8:34pm
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You can make fantastic pizza base dough in your breadmaker too, that's the main thing I use ours for. ------------- Two little girls under 2! 
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Posted By: Rovic
Date Posted: 04 September 2010 at 8:55pm
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I find that although the per loaf cost is cheaper, we would use 2 homemade loaves per shop bought cos of the differing thickness we slice the bread. I always make bread when we have soup, but thats usually it. Although did make nice focacia (sp?) last summer for dipping in oils - yum! And yip, the smell is amazing. ------------- http://alterna-tickers.com"> 
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Posted By: MissCandice
Date Posted: 05 September 2010 at 9:24am
Same!! I have a breville and have a pizza dough recipe and i add stuff to that made make the best pizzas!! I am wanting to get into making loafs with seeds and wholegrain flour, but like someone above, my loaves are heavy! Plus i have a sh*t of a time cutting them!! ------------- ~ Mummy to a beautiful girl ~ |
Posted By: Emmecat
Date Posted: 05 September 2010 at 10:33am
Man, you guys are so lucky having breadmakers! I have a pair of hands and a hot water cupboard adn that's how I make our bread hehe  turns out lovely though and I get lots done while I"m waiting for it to rise. Can't wait for summer though cos then I can put it on the window ledge in the bedroom and it rises so quickly...and smells yum!  -------------   http://lilypie.com" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: Nutella
Date Posted: 05 September 2010 at 1:14pm
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My bread i made recently turned out crappo, one was super yeasty and one was like dense. I wondered if the yeast was different because the recipe on the container said less yeast than what the breadmaker book said...so I got confuzzled...the second loaf I made I tried wholemal and it was dense as....so I gave up hahahahaha.
I assume the flour makes a difference as well?? ------------- 
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Posted By: xLUCKYx
Date Posted: 05 September 2010 at 4:06pm
| I have recently acquired my Mums Breville bread-maker. I have my third loaf in there at the moment and they have all been pretty stodgy... The first was the best so far and was made with only plain flour but it was still very dense. I now am using high grade flour and the loaf isn't rising at all.... checked my yeast just before though, and it's expired!! No wonder! Can't wait to nail this - love freshly made bread!! |
Posted By: Babe
Date Posted: 05 September 2010 at 4:13pm
If you had to proof your yeast then theres a good chance you got the wrong one. You can get bread improvers to help fluff your bread but I don't reckon you need it. Hand kneaded always turns out better than the machine but with heavier loaves try kneading it twice through before rising and baking. -------------   
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Posted By: zoeymil
Date Posted: 05 September 2010 at 9:44pm
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Sheza - WHere did you get your breadmaker from??? I'm going to buy one this week.. i have been borrowing a friends and i love it but it only make 500g loaves and i want a bigger one. ------------- http://lilypie.com">  http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: xLUCKYx
Date Posted: 06 September 2010 at 10:25am
| Have a loaf in the machine now... hopefully I have it right now. Bought new yeast and high grade flour with protein content of 11.5 per 100g which is what my machine specifies. Fingers crossed now! |
Posted By: Mrs_B
Date Posted: 06 September 2010 at 10:35am
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Success!! I think it is the recipes that are the problem. We have a Sunbeam Bakehouse and I have been using the recipe book that came with it. I found a recipe on the net and it came out perfect -------------
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Posted By: Bizzy
Date Posted: 06 September 2010 at 11:55am
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i use the french loaf recipe on my bread maker and the loaves come out perfect. The kids love it! In fact i made a loaf yesterday and we ate the whole lot! Yummm! ------------- http://www.myfitnesspal.com/weight-loss-ticker">
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Posted By: Shezamumof3
Date Posted: 06 September 2010 at 2:45pm
I got it from Noel Leemings :) ------------- |
Posted By: Shezamumof3
Date Posted: 06 September 2010 at 2:46pm
Ohh so the book is crap? lol I have this breadmaker, but only just got it so havent used it yet! ------------- |
Posted By: Mrs_B
Date Posted: 07 September 2010 at 7:55am
Well I've never had any success with the recipes other than the pizza dough one! This is the recipe I used at the weekend and it turned out great! Basic White Loaf 1 cup tepid water, plus 3 tablespoons 3 1/2 cups High grade flour 1 teaspoon salt 2 teaspoons sugar 1 tablespoon light olive oil 1 tablespoon skim milk powder 3 1/3 teaspoons Sure Bake Yeast (red cap) Setting - Basic Crust - Medium -------------
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Posted By: happymumma
Date Posted: 07 September 2010 at 12:53pm
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Gardengirl would you mind posting your cheese and bacon bread recipe??? It sounds delicious! |