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Topic: CLB
Posted By: fairy1
Subject: CLB
Date Posted: 22 September 2010 at 11:28am
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Ive been reading this book as am thinking of using it when our baby is born. What concerns me is that due to the hours DH works (9am-6pm + commuting) he wont be able to spend much time with the child except in the weekend. I dont want him to miss out on the bonding and I dont see the 1030 feed as bonding when he shouldnt make eye contact with the baby ( I do understand why this is best).
So what Im wondering is, for mothers who are following the CLB routine while their child is under 1 yrs old, how do their DH/DP find it during the week? DO they miss spending time with their baby, and do you wish they could spend more time with the baby? I know other ways (like babyled routines) may still affect the time that DH gets to spend with baby but I do quite like the CLB routine other than this factor. So other peoples experience with their newborn baby and DH/DP with be fantastic. ------------- http://lilypie.com"> 
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Posted By: kiwisj
Date Posted: 22 September 2010 at 12:46pm
We did the CLB routines and my DH is in the office 8-8 most days of the week. At the time DS was born he was working later than that a lot of the time too. I don't think he missed out on bonding time with DS because we followed a particular routine. If you're breastfeeding then you're going to be doing most of the feeding etc anyway, so it's not going to make much of a difference which book you read (if any) 
TBH, even following the routines, there were nights when I was still feeding C at 9pm when DH got in. He would take over just so that I could eat dinner and have a break  Even if he's not playing with your baby at that late night feed, he is getting to know them and giving them comfort and most importantly giving you a break.
Does your DH have any opportunity for flexi hours at all? From about 6mo, mine blocked out one afternoon a week at work and tries to be home by 5pm (the middle of the day here work-wise lol). He hangs out with C, gives him dinner and gets him to bed and then works from home after we've eaten our dinner if he needs to. CLB worked/works really well for us (DS is now 21 months). DH pretty much takes over at the weekend or any time he is home at the moment because I'm about ready to pop with #2 as well. We have absolutely no issues with DH taking over with DS, I've always felt we're equally close to C. In fact he's a real Daddy's Boy ------------- SJ Callum - Dec 2008 Daniel - Oct 2010 |
Posted By: MyLilSquishy
Date Posted: 22 September 2010 at 1:00pm
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i havent read the CLB book. we do it the babyled way (im not saying one is better than the other or anything lol) but DP doesnt get to spend much time with R when he gets home from work (about 5.30)
sometimes R will be in bed before DP gets home, sometimes he wont go down until 6pm. either way, DP does miss having at least a quick cuddle when R is in bed before he gets back. but he pretty much takes over on the weekend and i get a sleep in on Sundays so he gets some dad-son mum-free time with him anyway. and DP comes home at lunch times and changes his nappy if he needs it or has a quick play before going back to work which is nice. HTH
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Posted By: Bizzy
Date Posted: 22 September 2010 at 2:51pm
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i dont know what CLB is - but i think all dads (or the working parent i should say) has the same problem.
(and as an aside i dont get why you wouldnt want to look at your baby while feeding them - let alone that you know your baby will be feeding at 10.30.  )------------- http://www.myfitnesspal.com/weight-loss-ticker"> 
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 22 September 2010 at 3:42pm
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CLB is The Contented Little Baby
http://www.contentedbaby.com/ - Linky She's a baby trainer 
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Posted By: clover
Date Posted: 22 September 2010 at 3:48pm
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I didn't know what it was either so looked it up, apparently she says that during all night feeds you shouldn't make eye contact so as not to stimulate them. ------------- http://lilypie.com"> 
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Posted By: jazzy
Date Posted: 22 September 2010 at 4:07pm
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I didn't know either, lol....think I am old school DS3 is now 4yrs.
I could not feed my baby & not look at him...so not something I would want to introduce. DH looked after the boys when they were 3mths old in the weekends when I went back to work & I was home during the week so I did all the caring. DH helped out but I would not say took over. He has a lot of work commitments but still spend time with the boys & they have a great relationship. |
Posted By: fattartsrock
Date Posted: 22 September 2010 at 4:09pm
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To be completely blunt, you are setting yourself up for PND or anxiety if you go the routine route in the first month or so. Yes, it *might* work for some, but 95% will say all it did was stress them out. Feed baby when s/he is hungry, not by the clock for a start, breast or bottle, its just plain cruel to not feed them when they are hungry/thirsty - after all do you think oh I can't be thirsty, I just had a drink 2 hours ago! If you are breastfeeding you NEED to feed baby when they "ask" for it as thats how they build up their supply! Its important, so important to remember that new babies only have a tummy as big as a golf ball.
An interesting fact, Gina Ford has never had children.... That said, we did have a routine of sorts, which involved DH when he was there if kids were up...he was in charge of burping, cuddles, nappy changes and bathing, and at the weekends he spent lots of time with them. We certainly did the up feed change play thing and had a turn around of being back into bed within the hour at the start. The reason why I am so anti CLB is I see so many mums at the end of their tether because they think they are either "doing it wrong" or worse case scenario "a bad mother" and their babies are hungry, screaming crying and won't be put into the "mould" of a strict routine at 3 or 4 weeks old. Lots of new parents also stress out heaps about bonding and dad time, and I can see why, but honestly, Dad will get heaps and heaps of time for that, especially when they get a bit older, I promise you! put him on bath duty or changing and burping (Dads are good at burping). Best luck, and don't stress ot to much about the books, they all have a different idea to sell and you just need to do what works for your baby! ------------- The Honest Un PC Parent of 2, usually stuck in the naughty corner! :P |
Posted By: fairy1
Date Posted: 22 September 2010 at 4:30pm
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If you havnt read the book it can be hard to understand why CLB works. If you read her book it says if baby is hungry then you feed him, you dont wait till the specified time, that would be neglect.
Fattartsrock, I understand you're opinion but people use the routine for a reason, because it works for them. I am considering the routine because I believe a routine will make it easier for me and my baby. I know a lot of people will disagree with it but people do whats best for them. If you dont know what CLB is then its probably not the right thing for you and best to leave the replies to people that do understand it and use it, as thats what I would find helpful (since Im the one who asked the question). ------------- http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: freckle
Date Posted: 22 September 2010 at 4:35pm
I so could never have done that with my two... infact I struggled not to play with them when they woke during the night  ------------- mum to 3 lovely girls :D |
clover wrote:Posted By: Lucky apple
Date Posted: 22 September 2010 at 4:51pm
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Without knowing about Gina Ford at all, I got her book out of the library in my first couple of weeks home with DD (now 12 weeks). I had kinda thought that being in a time set routine would be good. But...just as fattartsrock (aside: I ALWAYS read your name as "fat-as-a-rock" lol sorry!) said, it stressed me out!! I don't think it causes Postnatal Depression or clinical anxiety though!! I do, however, I think it sets a precedent for what baby "should" be doing and if baby doesn't do what it "should" then that can cause stress. I (now) think that everyone is created differently and so I think you can't mould a new born into an externally created schedule. For example, a lactation consultant mentioned to me, that because I have small breasts I would be feeding more often than someone with larger breasts...so, schedule will obviously be different depending on Mum's anatomy rather than what a book says :-) .
But...What I DID take from the Gina Ford method was the order of things (ie Eat-play-sleep) during the day, and keep things low key/low stimulation at night (I can't strictly do the no eye contact thing either, as really, I think you do need to look at your baby to see what they need! we just don't play!)...so it's a routine but not a schedule, per se. It has worked for us that DD now sleeps well at night (slept 6-8 hrs from 6 weeks, and 8-10 hours from 10 weeks) and now goes down to bed any time between 6:30 and 7:30pm, depending on her tired signs. And, as a bit of a control freak myself, it has been ok for me not to have a scheduled routine!! DH sometimes doesn't get to see DD before bed at night...but he did early on as she wasn't going down for the night until 8:30/9ish. Sorry my answer was more to comment on fattartsrock's answer than to answer what you asked...but hope that it's been an interesting read at least!!!!! GOOD LUCK! ETA - I mean anxiety in the clinical sense.... so added the word above to clarify :-P |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 22 September 2010 at 4:56pm
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I've always made eye contact with both of mine while feeding, even at night.
I'd suggest doing some research onto the effects of CC/CIO on babies,and the possible difficulties very scheduled feeding so early can cause, just so you can be sure you make an informed decision. And don't foget to get baby to read the book
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Posted By: fattartsrock
Date Posted: 22 September 2010 at 5:00pm
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Actually I HAVE read the book.
I was talking about clock feeding because lots of other types of books about routines most certainly go on about clock feeding, and it' is, in my opinion dangerous. In my work, paid work, I am an educator. I see mums ALL the time who have anxiety because "The book says do this." I advocate that mums do what works for them, and often its having some kind of routine, because going from having your day almost timetabled to no routine at all is quite hard on alot of new mums. My concern is Mums who set in concrete about this or any other type of baby book routine is that the stress of setting it in motion with a new baby is quite considerable. So yes, I have read the book. And tried some it it to no success with no 2. I can see the theory behind it, and if it works it is all good, but if it dosen't, it can cause you alot of extra stress. I have also got 3 children, which dosen't make me the perfect mother, but I have been there done that. ------------- The Honest Un PC Parent of 2, usually stuck in the naughty corner! :P |
Posted By: fairy1
Date Posted: 22 September 2010 at 5:09pm
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FTR, I didnt say you hadnt read the book. Lots of posting posting on this thread havnt which is why I mentioned that it can be hard to understand if you havnt read the book. ------------- http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: jazzy
Date Posted: 22 September 2010 at 5:43pm
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melissag at the end of the day you do what is right for you.
I however agree with fattartsrock & maybe its because I have 3 kids & have been there & know what works for me & my kids. I don't take much notice of people that write books that have not had kids as there views & plans don't take into the account the emotional side that you feel when you have your baby. It is so easy to make a plan of how it is going to be but it is hard to stick to that plan when you have a newborn needing you. I think a lot of plans set you up to fail, there is nothing worse than not be able to comfort a baby cause someone who has no kids decided that was how it is to be. They don't stay babies for long. Best advise I got was put baby to bed awake, feed on demand & stuff the housework. |
Posted By: catisla
Date Posted: 22 September 2010 at 6:14pm
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I tried Gina Ford and ended up literally throwing the book across the room after less than 24 hours. The book said DD should be in bed at 7pm - she wasn't having any of that and only wanted to be cuddled and fed till about 11pm. I looked through the book to see what Gina's advice was when the baby didn't fall beautifully asleep at 7pm and there was none.
I ended up feeding on demand - sometimes for about 2 hours in the evening, and DD going to bed at about 11pm until she was about 6 weeks old. Then i gradually started putting her down earlier and earlier till she slept 9pm to 7 am with one feed in the early hours and eventually right through 7-7. As soon as i stopped getting all these books out of the library and stressing about her not being a routine i felt great. as DH said "she has got a routine - it's her one!" ------------- |
Posted By: Bizzy
Date Posted: 22 September 2010 at 6:51pm
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i havent read the book but i have had three kids - who incidentally all started out as babies! lol!
There are certainly lots more ways of not stimulating a baby during night feeds other than not looking at them and are also many different methods of almost anything baby related... i would say too that my first two kids had to be handled differently - toby i had to feed every 2 hours to start and gabriel was definitely a demand feeder.. but they both put themselves into a routine that was almost identical to each others. with regards to dads bonding my husband was given the job of bathing from the start, and now does all the bedtime stuff. ------------- http://www.myfitnesspal.com/weight-loss-ticker">
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Posted By: fattartsrock
Date Posted: 22 September 2010 at 8:49pm
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lIghts off is the best non stimulating! Then they don't really open their eyes anyhow cos its all dark and warm. (I used to nod off in my chair, too, lol) ------------- The Honest Un PC Parent of 2, usually stuck in the naughty corner! :P |
Posted By: BeLoved
Date Posted: 22 September 2010 at 9:12pm
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I am not going to comment in regards to what you should and should not do, my only comment would be to take bits & pieces from all advice you get be it a book, plunket, MW, friends family etc. and go with what works for you and your baby, and don't ever let the fact that your baby has not done what someone else said they SHOULD be doing make you feel like a bad mother. I tried diff routine suggestions and in the end DD fell into her own, I will definitely not be putting pressure on myself (and baby) 2nd time around.
In regards to baby bonding with Dad, rest assured there will be plenty of times when he will be the only one who is able to get that bit of wind up in the middle of the night, or baby will happily fall asleep on Dads chest after you have tried everything to settle them, which is just the most beautiful thing albeit frustrating at times. When it comes to night and stimulation as FTR said lights off is the best and I tended to stay in the one room, but its pretty hard not to look at them because one you can't keep your eyes off them and 2 because you need to be able to see what you are doing. ------------- http://alterna-tickers.com"> 
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Posted By: kiwikid
Date Posted: 22 September 2010 at 9:38pm
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Gina Ford and CLB routines are almost guaranteed to polarise most children-centric forums. You can ask for only people who favour these routines to reply but to be honest its not going to happen, Mothers are passionate about child raising!
Before my son was born I read this book, I saw a few things I liked in her routines and a few things I didnt. So when my baby was born I borrowed a few things that helped us and forgot the rest (not even intentionally I just have a sh*te memory )
At the end of the day I think the most important thing for a new mother to remember is that the first 6 / 12 weeks are freaking hard and things are extremely unlikely to just fall into place, both mother and baby are adjusting to their new roles which are like nothing they have ever experienced before. If the routines work and you and baby respond well to them then GREAT but if not then its really really important that you follow your instincts, dont tourture yourself if you cant seem to make it work. Maybe even take a few weeks off and try them again at a later date. I really dont want that to sound preachy and while you are your normal, well rested, calm self now before baby is here you no doubt think we are being patronising but it really comes from a good place, those first weeks can be so overwhelming that you can forget to go easy on yourself and the pressure of establishing a rountines can be so so stressful. On the issue of DH getting to spend time with baby, I dont think this is just an issue with CLB, for the most part once DS was past 6 weeks old he was asleep for the night by 7pm, we'd be lucky if DH had walked in the door by then. I BFd and did all the night wakings (very low light and no talking, but a little eye contact but it was very dark mostly LOL), so DH really only saw baby for short periods during the week. For the first 6 weeks at least DH used a half day or whole day of his AL on a Friday so he could spend time with us. DH showered with baby on the weekend for the first few months (yes just one bath a week for at least 3mths), takes over winding on the weekends, wears baby in a sling / wrap when out and about on the weekend. Lots of ways you can get Dad involved on the weekends ------------- 
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Posted By: scribe
Date Posted: 22 September 2010 at 10:15pm
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DH works from home so I can't be of much help answering your question, but I would be surprised if following the CLB left your DH with less time than he would have following a less-structured approach ...
DH loved that 10.30 feed, but I don't know whether he made eye contact or not? (I was too busy sleeping!) We did follow the CLB routines pretty loosely, but I think that is probably the key to making them work, as every baby is different. ie. we had a refluxy baby she had different demands as far as feeding went, as she'd only take small amounts at a time. As long as you let your DH be as involved as he can be, when he is around, like on the weekends (as Kiwikid says), then there shouldn't be any bonding issues, I wouldn't think...from what I've seen the problems arise when the mum wants to continue doing everything even when the dad's around, but to even be asking this question you'll obviously take the right approach! |
Posted By: pumpkino
Date Posted: 23 September 2010 at 8:38am
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Hi
Don't want to get into a debate but I read all the books (CLB and Baby Whisperer mostly) and as others have said took bits from all of them using a baby led approach. I do know people who have used CB and ike it - but even they say they wouldn't recommend trying it from Day 1, esp if you're BFing. It's just too stressful. The best time to start a structured routine is from about 3 months. Until then I would concentrate on just doing things in a particular order so that your baby knows what's coming next if you are planning to implement a routine later (eg we did sleep, eat, change, play, sleep etc etc). As for time with DH - I doubt it makes any difference what approach you take. If you are BFing then you will spend most of the time feeding and baby will be sleeping most of the rest of the time. What we did is to designate DH some time to "take over" which was the bath/bed routine. I would feed Toby then DH would take him for his bath while I got dinner sorted or just put my feet up for a minute. Then he would get T ready for bed and read a story before settling him to sleep. Sometimes he didn't make it home from work in time but he always made an effort as he really valued that time. Good luck! |
Posted By: millymollymandy
Date Posted: 23 September 2010 at 11:15am
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Interesting debate. I think you have to do what works for you. Some people swear by this method and no doubt its a good fit for some babies. I have read CLB, I still get it out for the odd laugh with my girlfriends from time to time.
I'm a routine kinda girl I'm prehaps a little less "child centric" as someone put it than others on this forum. I beleive part of a parents role is to guide their infants towards learning how to sleep, eat etc. That said I do think that there is real value in learning your newborn's cues and working around then, so you both take bits from each other. I suffered from terriable anxiety and PND, and thinking I wasn't doing things by the book was in hindsight a huge contributor. I had a premmie baby and I would caution anyone who has a prem to think carefully about CLB. These babies need more feeding than others and they don't last long awake. GF has newborns up for two hours for nearly all babies that is too long and they will be overtired. My girl lasted 45 mins max untill about 6 weeks. Even Mums who follow CLB don't have the awake time that GF uses. Secondly nearly all new babies clusterfeed and are wakey in the evenings and CLB doesn't allow for that. Thirdly not all babies will take a bottle, my DD hates the texture of rubber and will even now only chew on a teat. I couldn't have got an expressed bottle in her if I'd tried. Fourthly GF doesn't tell you what to do if your baby doesn't sleep for the times set down in her book or what to do if they don't settle. Overtime with good guidence, preservence and good understanding of your baby's personality, enery levels, tired signs etc you will get them into a routine. I still use some books (not CLB, but others) to get a rough idea of sleep times etc and them use that to try and find something that works for DD. Good luck and I commend you for thinking about you will tackle your baby's day well before they arrive. Make the most of it, they grow up so fast! |
Posted By: gmunster
Date Posted: 23 September 2010 at 12:36pm
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Melissa we read the CLB book, baby whisperer and several others. Even after reading I had no real set ideas about which approach I wanted to take. As a strict career woman before hand, I was anticipating that not having a routine was going to be hard for me as well as baby (as FTR said) . But I was wrong - maybe because I was aware beforehand that a nonroutine lifestyle may upset me, but either way I coped. As it turns out, we "winged it" Fed bubs when she asked for it during the day, she cluster fed ALWAYS at night between 5 and 8 and didn't go down at 7 till she was about 3 months old. The ONLY routine things we eventually decided to keep was that sleeps during the day were in the light under the window, noise was normal to loud in the house. I fed when she asked not on a time schedule. And at night, it was always bath feed sleep and always in the dark. Night feeds were not without eye contact but always in her bedroom with the light off and mostly she wouldn't wake any ways. In the end, this became her routine and ours and it suited me just fine. She slept through the night from about 12 weeks onwards which also suited us!! I don't know if this helps at all, but certainly we took bits of every book - I struggled with concept of sticking entirely to one theory.
DH is a dairy farmer and thus is up before 6 and often not home till after 6. BUT there was still plenty of time for bonding. I did express so that he could feed at night if required, but what actually happened was that DH was the absolute best and pro at settling during the "witching" hours - far better than me and thus this became their bonding time. -------------  
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Posted By: newme
Date Posted: 23 September 2010 at 1:20pm
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I read so many baby books, including CLB, the baby whisperer, oh baby, to name a few. I thought I had it sussed.
HOWEVER, babies just don't work like that!! I would do this and that and then the other things the book would say and then my son would not do what was meant to come next. He hadn't read the book, he didn't know he was meant to sleep. I would recommend what I call the desert island approach - if you were stuck on a desert island with just you and your baby and no books what would you do in a certain situation? Basically if your baby is hungry you would feed it, if he/she was tired, you'd give them a sleep, if they cried, you cuddle them. The only baby book I would now recommend to any parent is The Attachment Parenting book. But in answer to your original question, I would just get DH to do what he could during the week, and not worry to much about the eye to eye contact, and then in the weekend get him to take a much more active role - and give you a break too! |
Posted By: Bizzy
Date Posted: 23 September 2010 at 1:57pm
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oh i just remembered that in our house even though i did all the night feeds my husband was the one who would get up and bring me the baby and make sure i had what i needed then he would go back to sleep... and i second what someone else said about dads being great at burping. ------------- http://www.myfitnesspal.com/weight-loss-ticker">
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Posted By: TheKelly
Date Posted: 23 September 2010 at 3:22pm
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I.............am far too lazy to read any of these books.
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Posted By: aimeejoy
Date Posted: 23 September 2010 at 7:56pm
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I loved using the CLB routines and worked brilliantly with my first. But with my second it just didn't!
I came home from hospital with DD1 with the plan to demand feed and just couldn't cope with no structure so started the routines from six days old and she slotted in not a problem. In saying that I didn't let it stress me if it didn't work out exactly. I just made sure to always start the day at 7am and go from there. My husband worked from home at that stage so saw lots of her. But For you, I don't think it will make much difference to his time with baby whatever routine or not you choose. Good luck! ------------- Aimee Hannah 22/10/05 Greer 11/02/08 |
Posted By: aimeejoy
Date Posted: 23 September 2010 at 8:00pm
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Oh and wanted to add, if he is happy to do the 10.30pm night feed with expressed milk, that is really good bonding time (and rest for you). Even if it's just on weekend nights that he does it, plus any weekend time he spends with baby will add up :) ------------- Aimee Hannah 22/10/05 Greer 11/02/08 |
Posted By: Emmecat
Date Posted: 23 September 2010 at 8:20pm
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Millymollymandy *like* Hila *like* Kelly *LMAO* Meh, I didn't like Gina Ford. Or any other 'baby trainers'. Babies aren't dogs. -------------   http://lilypie.com" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: tiptoes
Date Posted: 23 September 2010 at 8:58pm
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A friend of mine recommended CLB and another friend had a copy and gave it to me so I had a good read and thought I'd probably give it a go but ended up having a really sleepy newborn who then turned into a cat napper so every couple of weeks I had another look to see if the routine was likely to suit us but it never really did.
Anyway, that doesn't really answer your question but my DH got up and did all the nappy changes for the first month, and the idea to bring the baby to you is a good one (though he was right next to me so no point for us). I'd say even if he's not looking into your baby's eyes it will still be a nice snuggle bonding time. Probably similar to a dreamfeed. Half the time both DS and I had our eyes shut during night feeds anyway. But maybe that could be your modification to the routine that your DH is allowed to look into his eyes but just not be all chatty and pulling faces etc... might be an idea? ------------- http://alterna-tickers.com">  
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Posted By: Emmecat
Date Posted: 23 September 2010 at 9:03pm
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Just to clarify (in case I'm wrong).....Gina Ford doesn't actually have kids of her own aye? ------------- http://lilypie.com" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Nothing
Date Posted: 23 September 2010 at 9:22pm
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I got this book, read it, tried it, not a chance, DD frequently wakes at 6am for the day, she only stays up for about and hour then only sleeps 45mins (wind wakes her), so there is no way she would fit this.
Emmecat- Yup she has no kids, kinda pointless for a baby "trainer" I reckon, she is probably too scared to actually have one of her own ------------- 
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Posted By: kiwisj
Date Posted: 23 September 2010 at 9:34pm
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Ummm no she doesn't have children but nor did I when I worked as a nanny I still knew my stuff.
In fact most of the career nannies I know don't have children and aren't married. Hard to meet the right guy when you're living with a family and bringing up someone else's kids. I really don't see what it has to do with her qualifications as a nurse or a nanny. Like anything, especially when it comes to parenting, different things will work for different people. Just because something doesn't work for you and your family doesn't mean you need to belittle someone else's choice. JMO. ------------- SJ Callum - Dec 2008 Daniel - Oct 2010 |
Posted By: Emmecat
Date Posted: 23 September 2010 at 9:46pm
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Kiwi- it certainly doesn't make you less qualified but what it does mean is that you're looking at a situation from an etic, not emic point of view...that is an 'outsider' looking at a situation as opposed to someone having actually *been* in a situation iykwim? oh edited to add.....was I belittling someone? ------------- http://lilypie.com" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: kiwisj
Date Posted: 23 September 2010 at 9:55pm
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I was speaking generally about the belittling, and it wasn't aimed at you personally.
FWIW, as I said on the previous page, we used CLB with Callum. We didn't follow it to the letter, he was prem and we live in a totally different climate/environment to the UK for a start, so we changed a few things and he slept a lot more than "average." However, it worked well for us and it's worked well for a number of families I've worked with in the past (incidentally, they were doing it before I worked for them, I didn't suggest it). We'll be trying the same things with DS2 when he arrives. If it doesn't work out then oh well, that's fine too. I'm well aware that what works for one baby might not work for another! ------------- SJ Callum - Dec 2008 Daniel - Oct 2010 |
Posted By: TheKelly
Date Posted: 24 September 2010 at 12:03am
oh....then I should stop throwing that stick to Tyler for him to bring back to me then ? ahhh bugger -------------
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Posted By: Emmecat
Date Posted: 24 September 2010 at 7:17am
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lol Kelly ------------- http://lilypie.com" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Shezamumof3
Date Posted: 24 September 2010 at 7:19am
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Ive never ready any baby routine book ever, and dont want to.
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Posted By: millymollymandy
Date Posted: 24 September 2010 at 8:51am
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I asked some friends about how they adjust to daylight savings, interestingly the variation in kids bedtimes was huge. I wonder if the kids set the routine to what works for them or the family sets hte routine and the kid then fits to it. Chicken and egg thing I guess.
As I said I love knowing how our day will be so I can make plans and stay on top of life. Other people hate that approach. When you think about it we all "train" our kids to some extent, we show them how to do everyday actions and teach them what is expected of them as members of our families. No child completely dictates how they are going to live their lives, and nor could you expect them to. Its the parents to job to guide them and so by example. So i do think that everyone gets some kind of training, even if its not a conscious parental decision. |