Debate - Paul Henry?
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Topic: Debate - Paul Henry?
Posted By: LittleBug
Subject: Debate - Paul Henry?
Date Posted: 08 October 2010 at 6:33pm
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Ashamed or supportive of him... debate away!
Forums getting too quiet   ------------- Chloe (4 years) and Oliver (3 years). |
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Posted By: JadeC
Date Posted: 08 October 2010 at 6:35pm
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Ashamed - shocking statements.
I don't get to make racist and nasty remarks in my professional life, he should be held to the same standards everyone else is, if not higher. ------------- http://pregnancy.baby-gaga.com/" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: kebakat
Date Posted: 08 October 2010 at 6:36pm
| Supportive. I think hes hilarious |
Posted By: LittleBug
Date Posted: 08 October 2010 at 6:36pm
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I agree with you JadeC.
I don't understand why people think that he's saying what everyone is thinking... that makes me ashamed of NZ, TBH. ------------- Chloe (4 years) and Oliver (3 years). |
Posted By: blondy
Date Posted: 08 October 2010 at 6:39pm
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I do normally think he's hilarious, and so happy that someone can say thngs without worrying about being PC! However, even though I really believe he didn't mean to be offensive by what he said, it was inappropriate, especially to ask the PM..... should have been a case of brain editing before it came out
Sometimes he does act like a 10 year old, but how boring would life be if we all said and thought the exact same thing? -------------  
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Posted By: kiwisj
Date Posted: 08 October 2010 at 6:40pm
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Have to say I'm ashamed too. I usually think he's hilarious but the comments about the GG were appalling IMHO and his giggling fit re the commonwealth games woman was just embarrassing. I think he crossed the line big time this time and will be surprised if he's back on Breakfast any time soon. ------------- SJ Callum - Dec 2008 Daniel - Oct 2010 |
Posted By: Jaxnz1
Date Posted: 08 October 2010 at 6:43pm
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Ashamed. I think he's insensitive and doesn't think before he speaks. Never found him funny and never will. Bring back Sunrise!!! ------------- 
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Posted By: nicandtyler
Date Posted: 08 October 2010 at 7:01pm
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I think that what he said what insensitive and done so without thinking how inappropriate it really sounded, but apart from that I'm a fan of his, think he's entertaining and I enjoy watching Breakfast ------------- http://lilypie.com"> 
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Posted By: Delli
Date Posted: 08 October 2010 at 7:05pm
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Don't think he is funny at all! I don't really think a name is worth laughing hysterically over and making derogatory comments about....
Don't watch Breakfast though so I don't know what he is like normally. ------------- http://lilypie.com"> 
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Posted By: jano1
Date Posted: 08 October 2010 at 7:15pm
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Ashamed- what kind of grown up man acts like a 2 year old? In fact 2 year olds have better manners.
Besides heaps of people are far funnier than he is without taking pot shots. Cheap way to get a laugh IMO. ------------- http://www.thebump.com/?utm_source=ticker&utm_medium=UBB&utm_campaign=tickers"> |
Posted By: Huggles
Date Posted: 08 October 2010 at 7:16pm
| I normally think that he is great and has a great sense of humour however......he has pushed the mark on this one! i think he is just taking the piss a bit too much,. i do hope he comes back to breakfast even though Rawdon is doing a fab job filling in! |
Posted By: myonlineself
Date Posted: 08 October 2010 at 7:28pm
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I am usually a fan of Paul Henry and like the fact someone is un-PC for a change, but he does sometimes take it that wee bit too far.... there isn't any excuse for such racism. ------------- http://lilypie.com"> 
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Posted By: TheKelly
Date Posted: 08 October 2010 at 7:37pm
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I like him .
And I think Paul Holmes "cheeky darky " comment was worse. I also think there are politicians who say worse However, I also think he put his foot in it, and should really learn to think before he speaks,especially in public But bottom line, I liken those that have nothing better to do than protest outside TVNZ about his staying in TVNZ as the same boring people who would write to Women's day complaining about the latest exploits of Brangelina. ------------- 
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Posted By: amme_eilyk
Date Posted: 08 October 2010 at 7:44pm
| I am ashamed of him. I dont think he should be working at our national government supported broadcaster. he needs like a shock collar or something to tell him when he is going too far. I wont watch breakfast because of him. |
Posted By: jano1
Date Posted: 08 October 2010 at 7:45pm
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amme_eilyk wrote:Posted By: myfullhouse
Date Posted: 08 October 2010 at 7:51pm
I agree. I like him and like that he isn't too PC, I think there is too much PC in this world. I don't think he was racist but I do think that he shouldn't have made that comment about the GG. I think that it has been blown way out of proportion and the mole hill is becoming a very large mountain ------------- Lindsey 
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Posted By: monkey33
Date Posted: 08 October 2010 at 7:54pm
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Posted By: monkey33
Date Posted: 08 October 2010 at 8:00pm
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We watch Breakfast every morning and we haven't enjoyed it as much without him. I don't agree with what he said on this occasion but don't feel he should be sacked over it. ------------- http://lilypie.com"> http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: cuppatea
Date Posted: 08 October 2010 at 8:25pm
Agreed, I don't think like him and I hate them saying that we all do. I think he should be removed. I actually don't know why he wasn't fired a long time ago |
Posted By: MyPeas
Date Posted: 08 October 2010 at 8:34pm
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Supportive - I don't think he intends to offend as such and that everything has gotten a little too PC and things are sometimes taken a little too seriously.
Don't know if I agree that he is saying what everyone else is thinking, but definately has his own opinion and isn't afraid to voice it. ------------- http://lilypie.com">  http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: Delli
Date Posted: 08 October 2010 at 8:52pm
Yeah! I should really put this in the "What grinds your gears" thread but I really wish people wouldn't say things like this. Perhaps he says what they are thinking but it is definitely not what I think! I wish people wouldn't talk as if people like Paul Henry speak on behalf of the "average" NZer. ------------- http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: Anonymous55
Date Posted: 08 October 2010 at 9:04pm
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I'm supportive, too.
TBH I don't think he's actually racist with this particular "slur". If a english guy was called diksh*t he would've made fun of it just as much. |
Posted By: Delli
Date Posted: 08 October 2010 at 9:14pm
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For me, it's not that he had a giggle at the name - it's more that he laughed hysterically like a demented hyena and then went on to say more about her being Indian etc. And there is also the comment he made about whether the next governor-general would look and sound like a New Zealander (our current governor-general was born and bred in NZ!). ------------- http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: TheKelly
Date Posted: 08 October 2010 at 9:18pm
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...when I saw the GG for the first time, I thought the same thing as Paul Henry TBH, which in that case makes me just as racist.
However, I didn't say it to the prime minister, or in public hearing .... -------------
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Posted By: yermasyada
Date Posted: 08 October 2010 at 9:24pm
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I'm shocked at some of the comments that Paul Henry has come out with over the years, but not half as shocked as I am at the amount of people who are supporting him and don't actually think his comment about the Governor General racist. Seriously people.... you don't think it was racist ???
His questioning about the GG is the latest in a long, long line of offensive, racist, homophobic, ignorant comments, broadcast on national TV. If you're the kind of person who finds that kind of 'humour' funny, then that's your business, but broadcasting drivel like that on national TV is shameful! You don't need a 'shock jock' to produce an entertaining TV show. If Paul Henry is the best that NZ can come up with, then they need to start looking overseas for talent....... India maybe?
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Posted By: kandk
Date Posted: 08 October 2010 at 9:34pm
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I don't see any need to be offended by him - surely you should only feel offended by someone whose opinion you give a dam about! And for me, that's not PH. ------------- http://lilypie.com">  http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: Delli
Date Posted: 08 October 2010 at 9:35pm
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I was posting about how I've heard many many different inflections on the kiwi accent depending on where and how people were brought up but then actually googled some recent videos of the GG and to me he sounds very much like a NZer? I can't imagine how someone might think he wasn't from here?
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Posted By: kiwi2
Date Posted: 08 October 2010 at 9:37pm
So why is india getting involved with our consulate over in dehli asking for an apology. Surely this is a NZ matter if the person in question is a NZer born and bred as in the quote above. My thoughts are that he didn't act appropriately. It was unprofessional but it has certainly turned into a mountain out of a molehill. |
Posted By: Delli
Date Posted: 08 October 2010 at 9:42pm
Because Sheila Diksh*t is an Indian politician (the Chief Minister of Dehli). Sir Anand Satyanand is the New Zealand Governor General. It was two separate incidents - sorry I didn't make that very clear.  ------------- http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: Delli
Date Posted: 08 October 2010 at 9:43pm
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Ooooh, Oh Baby censored her name - that's quite ironic.... ------------- http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: Anonymous55
Date Posted: 08 October 2010 at 9:48pm
I thought that too
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Posted By: linda
Date Posted: 08 October 2010 at 9:54pm
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That is ironic...is that why my post went to never never land?
Anyway, I love PH. He is a great interviewer and love watching him on Breakfast. He can be firm, tough and hilarious. Great mix. ------------- http://lilypie.com"> 
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Posted By: LittleBug
Date Posted: 08 October 2010 at 10:22pm
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I wasn't so offended about him laughing at the name "Dicksh*t" (although it was mean). I was more offended that he implied that his derogatory comments were appropriate because she was indian.
From a news article: "The dip sh*t woman. God, what's her name? Dick sh*t. Is it Dick sh*t ... it looks like 'Dick sh*t'," Henry says through bouts of laughter. "It's so appropriate, because she's Indian, so she'd be dick-in-sh*t wouldn't she, do you know what I mean? Walking along the street ... it's just so funny." ------------- Chloe (4 years) and Oliver (3 years). |
Posted By: pumpkino
Date Posted: 08 October 2010 at 10:31pm
Ditto. Surely no one thinks that he represents the views of TVNZ, let alone the country. Do I agree with what he said? No. Do I want to live in a country that censors the media and tells people what they can and cannot say? Definitely not. We are all free to agree or disagree with what he says. |
Posted By: yermasyada
Date Posted: 08 October 2010 at 10:40pm
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http://www.bsa.govt.nz/codesstandards-act.php - The Broadcasting Act
"safeguards against the portrayal of persons in programmes in a manner that encourages denigration of, or discrimination against, sections of the community on account of sex, race, age, disability, or occupational status or as a consequence of legitimate expression of religious, cultural or political beliefs" |
Posted By: Peanut
Date Posted: 09 October 2010 at 8:24am
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I honestly believe some people need to look up the meaning of racism etc before defining someone as that. PH is out there but racist he is not,...well, if he is than a hell of a lot of us are apparently! Bigoited, maybe! Intolerant, maybe! Racist, nope! -------------  
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Posted By: yermasyada
Date Posted: 09 October 2010 at 9:18am
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Seriously Peanut ??? I think you need to check the definition yourself and then have a look at the numerous racist remarks that Henry has made over the years.
It's quite clear cut. |
Posted By: kiwi2
Date Posted: 09 October 2010 at 9:25am
Thanks delli, Just thought I would let you know I singled out your quote due to the born and bred bit not all the rest. It was that phrase that triggered my interest so I wasn't disagreeing etc. Just realised it looked a bit weird to quote you without a reason lol. |
Posted By: Rachael21
Date Posted: 09 October 2010 at 11:11am
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I love him I find him soooo entertaining. Sure some of his comments are a bit over the top but thats what makes him funny. Did anyone see Sheila Diksh*t say how her name is pronounced? It is actually dick-sh*t not dixit that the others on breakfast were saying. Isn't that kind of offensive? Pronouncing a name wrong on purpose because you are uncomfortable with how it sounds?
The governer general comment was a bit off but I do think it was more of a case of speaking before thinking and he got punished for that. What about our favourite MPs comments about how he would hate his children to go out with pakehas. To me that is along the same lines and he never got a punishment. So yeah I'm looking forward to him coming back! Campbell live had a poll with 13,000 votes, 57% were in favour of him... |
Posted By: amme_eilyk
Date Posted: 09 October 2010 at 11:39am
| its more than just speaking without thinking though. he says it once and then repeats it over and over. |
Posted By: Shezamumof3
Date Posted: 09 October 2010 at 12:21pm
| Paul Henry is awesome!!! Love him! |
Posted By: Nutella
Date Posted: 09 October 2010 at 12:38pm
*Like* The question is that you may not say things that are racist but if you think them then how do you act on those feelings? How many people are still being discriminated against in NZ because of racist people? Which it seems there are a lot of in NZ...I always thought kiwis were better than that but it apparently not. And race is just one issue.... does that mean that there are people out there who still think gay people are sick and that women can't do as good a job, or that a jewish person is only after money or a fat person is disgusting and greedy. Good grief. ------------- 
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Posted By: Delli
Date Posted: 09 October 2010 at 1:25pm
There are a few different definitions for racism around. From Wikipedia: "Although the term racism usually denotes race-based prejudice, violence, dislike, discrimination, or oppression, the term can also have varying and contested definitions." I certainly think that Paul Henry has displayed race-based prejudice with his recent comments, so in my mind, that is racism. Whether he thinks racist thoughts all the time, I can not know, so I don't know if he believes that one race is more superior than any other - but I will say that he demonstrated racial discrimination. I also think he is bigoted and intolerant
In my opinion, Hone Harawira is also a racist, a bigot and intolerant. I feel he should have been thrown out of the Maori Party long ago for his various comments and activities. However, just because one didn't get punished and the other did is neither here nor there and one doesn't really have anything to do with the other ------------- http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: _SMS_
Date Posted: 09 October 2010 at 2:23pm
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Posted By: Bizzy
Date Posted: 09 October 2010 at 2:30pm
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her name is spelt Dixit. Sheila Dixit!
maybe everyone who is spelling it as Dicksh*t should be considered racist too - or just a bigot! or maybe just stupid! Last week Paul Henry was defending the decision of Irene van Dyk to be flag bearer at the Commonwealth Games and his views then certainly didnt show him as racist. He is right about india. It is virtually a slum, even Indians dont want to live there (as per the indian couple reported on here recently who are due to be deported). He is very silly and gets carried away unnecessarily and maybe a new job wouldnt be such a bad thing for him. he is very opinionated though, and i imagine that as some stage or other most people have agreed with at least one of his opinions. ------------- http://www.myfitnesspal.com/weight-loss-ticker"> 
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Posted By: Delli
Date Posted: 09 October 2010 at 2:35pm
According to the http://delhigovt.nic.in/sheila.asp - Dehli Government Website and various other Indian websites - it is Diksh*t. ------------- http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: blondy
Date Posted: 09 October 2010 at 2:44pm
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I agree Bizzy - I think he can be overly silly at times, but I really don't think he's racist. IMO, racist people don't tend to take the piss out of themselves, and PH does that. I think had someone in the news from any other country had a slightly funny name, he would have made fun of that too - indicating that he wasn't singling her out because of her nationality/race.
I do think he suffers from foot-in-mouth, and really needs to think things through before saying them sometimes, but the whole coverage/issue has been taken too far, and TBH I'm over hearing about it
I do worry that TVNZ as our 'nationally supported' TV channel could start controlling what people say, and refuse to broadcast someone's opinion because it doesn't fit with a government-sanctioned opinion....... -------------
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Posted By: Bizzy
Date Posted: 09 October 2010 at 2:49pm
thats interesting - certainly seems to be a few websites with the alternate spelling. I suppose thats what you get for listening to the news - who reported her name was spelt with an X... I hate being wrong! Thanks Delli------------- http://www.myfitnesspal.com/weight-loss-ticker">
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Posted By: Delli
Date Posted: 09 October 2010 at 3:21pm
Me too! Don't worry - I had to do a quick search and was ready to be very annoyed and apologise if I turned out to be wrong
And there are quite a few that have her down as Sheila Dixit but from what I gather the correct spelling is Diksh*t. ------------- http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: lizzle
Date Posted: 09 October 2010 at 4:59pm
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I don't think Paul Henry should have been suspended or fired. Simply because when he said the comments, TVNZ made the decision initially to let it go. So in my opinion, they made their decision about how they are going to deal with the comments. now everyone is getting up in arms, they are suspending, and some people are saying talking about firing him. They then aren';t firing him for what he said, but for what other people think. i think this is unfair. If the comments, in their eyes, were so offensive, he should have been sacked or reprimanded that day....not weeks (or days) later.
and i like him too. For the only fact that he is incredibly opinionated, but at least he bases a lot of his opinion on knowledge, rather than just pulling opinions out of his ass. I get really sick of people who have strong opinions about such topics at the Treaty, various political parties, and when you talk to them, it becomes clear their opinion is based on nothing but a "gut feeling" and their reasoning is "i just don;t like it". Paul can back up his opinions - even if I don't agree with most of them |
Posted By: nathansmummy
Date Posted: 09 October 2010 at 6:47pm
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I *love* Paul Henry... but I think he went too far. I'm glad he apologized but it's a shame it's now leaked as far as International waters, eg. India, Britain. It was definitely stupid. But people do say stupid things and I think the fuss is going a bit too far.
I am really sad that he won't be presenting "This is your Life". Paul Holmes is boring. And to be honest, almost all presenters on TV are boring... he's the only one remotely interesting to watch. Looking forward to when he's back! I like his non-PC approach but there's still a line and he definitely crossed it. He's apologized and been suspended - let's move on! |
Posted By: nathansmummy
Date Posted: 09 October 2010 at 6:54pm
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Just to add: it's interesting that they suspended Paul Henry, yet our upcoming Mayor Len Brown used his MP credit card for personal use (theft) and then there's Hone Harawera making comments like he would not be happy with his daughter dating a Pakeha... isn't that racism in reverse? What if Paul had said that he would not allow his daughter to date a Maori? Harawera wasn't suspended for such a statement nor Len Brown or any other MPs who were using their privileges for personal travel. If we did that in our respective jobs we'd expect to be suspended or given a written warning.
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Posted By: LJsmum
Date Posted: 09 October 2010 at 6:55pm
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Can't stand him he's too big for his boots!!
Ashamed that he's fronting a breakfast show, our only one that most people watch especailly visitors to our country. He's not funny, just annoying, rude and an attention seeker. He needs to go. -------------  
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Posted By: nathansmummy
Date Posted: 09 October 2010 at 6:56pm
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Oh and lastly - although I don't like all the Indian slurs... when I read he had called Ms. Dixit, Ms Diksh*t I had to laugh. What was even funnier was that the Herald got confused in their reporting and actually referred to her as Ms Diksh*t which I found even more amusing.
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Posted By: Shezamumof3
Date Posted: 09 October 2010 at 7:04pm
| I agree nathansmummy, move on! |
Posted By: pepsi
Date Posted: 09 October 2010 at 7:24pm
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My opinion, he shouldn't have made the comments about the GG on national tv, because it was too open for interpretation. I mean, he says a lot of stuff tongue-in-cheek and that's how I saw it, but I also can understand how others it saw it as something he was actually serious about...
After it happened, he made a public apology to the GG, and tbh I don't understand why that wasn't the end of it? I wonder how many people who label Paul Henry a racist, have never made any kind of racist remark in their lives (e.g. "F'n Asian drivers etc.. ), even jokingly, as I feel he was. Also, I wonder how many people who are upset about the Dicksh*t comments were also upset about all the "Whakapapa" etc jokes used by Rove? Isn't that taking the piss as well? |
Posted By: TheKelly
Date Posted: 09 October 2010 at 7:57pm
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It is a funny name, Sheila Diksh*t .
Sheila! hahaha ,Sheila! hilarious ! (kidding) -------------
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Posted By: yermasyada
Date Posted: 09 October 2010 at 7:58pm
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Posted By: Delli
Date Posted: 09 October 2010 at 7:58pm
Based on Paul Henry's recent comments, I have to disagree with this He certainly wasn't knowledgeable about the Governor-General (and the fact that he was born and bred in NZ) and I'm not sure what is so knowledgeable about his comment:
"It's so appropriate, because she's Indian, so she'd be dick-in-sh*t wouldn't she, do you know what I mean? Walking along the street ... it's just so funny," As I've mentioned before though - I don't watch Breakfast or Paul Henry so the rest of the time he may be very knowledgeable and base his opinions on fact
It's not "racism in reverse". It's racism, full stop. Sorry, nathansmummy - pet peeve of mine. I've heard people describe dark skinned people displaying racial discrimination against white skinned people as "reverse racism" a few times before - that is not correct. It's racism no matter what race the person making the racist remarks is! I don't think TVNZ have any control over whether Len Brown or Hone Harawira are punished for anything they do - so don't see where the double standard is.
As I've mentioned in a previous post - her name is actually Sheila Diksh*t. The Herald did not get confused. As it happens - I don't really have an opinion on his punishment or whether he should be fired or not. I don't feel I'm qualified enough to make that call which should be based upon what is in his contract and TVNZ Broadcasting standards. I'm glad he apologised. I was just responding to the OP's initial question of whether you supported Paul Henry or were ashamed of him. I don't support his comments. On the one hand, I don't want people (overseas or New Zealanders) to think that he is representative of the majority in NZ. On the other hand I agree with this from blondy:
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Posted By: TheKelly
Date Posted: 09 October 2010 at 8:02pm
I didn't watch the whole thing. Because my sound isn't working well,but he has lovely eyes. -------------
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Posted By: cuppatea
Date Posted: 09 October 2010 at 8:47pm
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Posted By: Delli
Date Posted: 09 October 2010 at 8:58pm
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Posted By: Babe
Date Posted: 09 October 2010 at 9:10pm
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The one occasion I had a thought about the governer general I also wondered why we had a foreign person in office so no problem with Paul Henrys little convo bout that.
As for the Diksh*t thing mmm inappropriate for tv yeah but a slap on the wrist and a firm 'no' would have solved this. Its ridiculous the hoorah going on. India is filthy (you only have to check out the lead-up to the commonwealth games) so its not like he was saying anything thats not true about watching where you walk. I'm abit horrified that Nzers in general, or atleast the portion that complained, are more worried about a tv personality saying something inappropriate than the people who are actually making decisions for our whole country while stealing, being racist pigs (I hate Hone Harawira with a passion he is a disgusting, disgusting man!), going on fabulous holidays with misused taxpayers money, while the same taxpayers are struggling to keep their collective noses comfortably above water, and more. Seriously people focus on the real problems like the leaders who are driving NZ into the third world list, instead of getting your knickers in a twist over a man who just says it as he sees it!! Hmph! -------------   
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Posted By: Delli
Date Posted: 09 October 2010 at 9:15pm
How do you know that the same people who are uncomfortable with Paul Henry's comments aren't worried and complaining about these guys as well?
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Posted By: _H_
Date Posted: 09 October 2010 at 9:16pm
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Posted By: Babe
Date Posted: 09 October 2010 at 9:20pm
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Posted By: Delli
Date Posted: 09 October 2010 at 9:44pm
They aren't employed by the same people (technically you could say they are both employed by the Government but Hone Harawira does not have to answer to the TVNZ Board, nor does Paul Henry have to answer to the Maori Party), don't have the same employment contracts and don't go through the same complaints procedures.... Don't see how the two can be compared like that - it's just not that simple. ------------- http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: pikelets
Date Posted: 09 October 2010 at 9:49pm
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I don't like how he is rude to guests on the show and rude about other people.
If I said stuff he says to my customers, I would expect to be fired or definitely a written warning. ------------- http://lilypie.com"> 
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Posted By: flakesitchyfeet
Date Posted: 09 October 2010 at 9:55pm
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Posted By: TheKelly
Date Posted: 09 October 2010 at 9:58pm
LIKE and how do we know people aren't getting as upset over the other mentioned people? cos there aren't any threads on OB about them
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Posted By: LittleBug
Date Posted: 09 October 2010 at 10:30pm
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I don't agree with using tax-payer money for personal travel. Or with the actions of Hone Harawira. I should have made a thread about them too but it wouldn't be nearly as contentious because they don't have such a large public group of supporters (that I know of). ------------- Chloe (4 years) and Oliver (3 years). |
Posted By: nathansmummy
Date Posted: 10 October 2010 at 8:29am
Well said! |
Posted By: freckle
Date Posted: 10 October 2010 at 8:34am
lol Delli - that's a pet peeve of mine too!! it really pees me off
I love Paul Henry! I hope they don't get rid of him... I think what he said was inappropriate but we're all human and all stuff up sometimes...I think far too much has been made out of it and it's tiome to move on... I reckon life would be boring without people like him! all at least TV would... look at good morning what a freaken yawn feast ------------- mum to 3 lovely girls :D |
Posted By: Shezamumof3
Date Posted: 10 October 2010 at 8:47am
So true Freckle, thats exactly my thoughts on it too! Paul Henry is fantastic! Yeah he stuffed up, and should have laughed when he was on camera, but meh he's human! Im sure everyone at some point in their lives has laughed at something like that  It made me giggle, shoot me!
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Posted By: nathansmummy
Date Posted: 10 October 2010 at 9:37am
Quite right re: racism in reverse. My mistake. Good morning is utterly dull. And those infomercials we are forced to watch - makes me wonder whether anyone watches that programme! Twice the ads ugh! |
Posted By: Kicker
Date Posted: 10 October 2010 at 10:04am
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Sorry just jumped to the last page in this discussion so not sure if anyone has made the following points but this is what i think:
On the Sheila Diks*it issue, there was a radio interview with her from a couple of years ago and she was asked how to pronounce her surname and yes she pronounced it dick sh*t so i think although juvenile of Paul Henry to laugh, many people did. I first heard it on the radio and all the presenters were having a good giggle over it. Also i think what was worse than Paul Henrys remarks about the Govenor General was that John Keys didn't challenge it and nip it in the bud, he just glossed over it. Not something a Prime Minister should do IMO. -------------  
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Posted By: Babe
Date Posted: 10 October 2010 at 10:47am
I said I have a problem with the NZ general public making such a huge deal over Paul Henry's gaffe when they should be up in arms over our governments bad leadership. Its absolutely comparable IMO - they're all people in the public eye and last I looked WE are the public. We should be demanding accountability, honesty and honourable behaviour from our politicians rather than packing a fit over a tv personality who has always had a reputation for stirring things up!! -------------
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Posted By: Emmecat
Date Posted: 10 October 2010 at 11:10am
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Babe- as usual (mostly hehe) I agree with all of what you've said about politicians in general lol. I didn't watch Paul Henry or hear much about what he didn cos I'm a media-phobe these days so can't make much of a personal comment, but I do think in general he's a bit of a dick. Millimoo- great vid and so is his 'no homo' vid lol. -------------   http://lilypie.com" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: Nutella
Date Posted: 10 October 2010 at 12:34pm
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My issue is not with Paul Henry as such, I think freedom of speech is important but what puzzles me is that so many people seem to think that what he said was not that bad. Clearly there are a lot of racist people out there.
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Posted By: nathansmummy
Date Posted: 10 October 2010 at 1:00pm
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They aren't employed by the same people (technically you could say they are both employed by the Government but Hone Harawira does not have to answer to the TVNZ Board, nor does Paul Henry have to answer to the Maori Party), don't have the same employment contracts and don't go through the same complaints procedures.... Don't see how the two can be compared like that - it's just not that simple. [/QUOTE]
Delli, while the MPs and Mayor are not employed by TVNZ - they are employed by us the people that vote, and by the Government and the point is this: 1) There hasn't been nearly as much of an outcry or public backlash towards Harawera or MPs etc. using their business credit cards for personal use eg. travel. In fact, it seems that the public have elected Len Brown who is guilty pretty much of theft. Double standards right there. 2) We would expect the Government to have higher standards than TVNZ. So why is the Government not expecting more from their MPs and Mayors and Council members? I would have thought that NOT making very racist comments and NOT stealing at the taxpayer's expense would be a fairly reasonable expectation - don't you?! Why has the Government or Party members not suspended or fired these individuals? And yes, the Government owns TVNZ and expects it to be run professionally, upholding Broadcasting standards. It's a pity those standards don't seem to be consistent with our national leaders! Double standards again. ETA: If you can't laugh at Sheila Diksh*t (we can't even write the poor woman's name in full because it's a swear word) then you're probably taking life too seriously. |
Posted By: Nutella
Date Posted: 10 October 2010 at 1:13pm
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Hone Harawera answers to his electorate, they are the ones who voted him in, and unfortunetly for the Maori party if they ditched him they would probably lose that seat. So they most likely don't sack him to benefit themselves as a party.
And I guess again that the public has elected Len Brown in whatever he did (wouldn't have a clue about this one) so again the public has chosen. Guess it shows the scruples of NZ public as a whole. -------------
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Posted By: KiwiL
Date Posted: 10 October 2010 at 2:29pm
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I like Paul Henry, and hope to see him back on Breakfast. For the most part I find him entertaining, and like the chemistry between him and Pippa.
Having said that, I think in both of these incidents he took things too far. The comments were juvenile and hurtful. But I also think it is a symptom of him being 'allowed' to say what he wants for so long. Personally I was disappointed in his comments. I was also disappointed that John Key brushed it off at the time! He made no comment that it was inappropriate at all. Paul Henry is a very good journalist and at the other end of the spectrum he is professional and appropriate. In his Breakfast role he is fulfilling a 'persona' - I am sure his behaviour is genuine (as in, he is a natural clown), but he does know how he should behave in situations, so in this case he should have known better. I agree also though that there is so much more going on in our country that people just don't get passionate about. Sign of the times? |
Posted By: Emmecat
Date Posted: 10 October 2010 at 3:33pm
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YUP! to both those comments!!!! *like* ------------- http://lilypie.com" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: flakesitchyfeet
Date Posted: 10 October 2010 at 6:09pm
He resigned 
I'm gutted. ------------- http://lilypie.com"> |
Posted By: nicandtyler
Date Posted: 10 October 2010 at 6:15pm
Same! Can't believe it! Was just coming on here to say that too ------------- http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: nathansmummy
Date Posted: 10 October 2010 at 6:30pm
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Here's the link:
http://tvnz.co.nz/national-news/paul-henry-resigns-amid-uproar-3829541 - Link I am disappointed and sooo angry that it's come to this. I have written TVNZ an email and commented on the Breakfast page but I guess it won't do any good if we all protest? Although, from what I've read no one really watched Breakfast except to see Paul Henry so really the ratings will drop and they might end up canning it - I hope so! I hope Paul Henry pops up on one of the other channels... and if he does, I'll be watching! What a load of hoo-ha over such a thing! Talk about over-reacting NZ! |
Posted By: freckle
Date Posted: 10 October 2010 at 6:44pm
I am too!!! ------------- mum to 3 lovely girls :D |
Posted By: blondy
Date Posted: 10 October 2010 at 6:56pm
I'm bummed about his resignation  And in his statement he mentioned that the media had been stalking his mother at her rest home
Just imagine if the media hype over him had been put to some use - in my mind it was an absolute waste of time and resources that could have been better spent. -------------
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Posted By: nathansmummy
Date Posted: 10 October 2010 at 7:01pm
| Agreed. Where did he give that statement Andrea? I didn't see the news tonight - just read it online. Any coverage on the story on the news on TV? |
Posted By: blondy
Date Posted: 10 October 2010 at 7:03pm
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It was in the one linked above - I clicked on his full statement. -------------
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Posted By: weeheebaby
Date Posted: 10 October 2010 at 7:49pm
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the bit from his statement that should be read FAR more carefully than it ever will be (and probably says EVERYTHING about Paul's role in this show) is this
"for me to do the job I was employed to do" I've read a lot (in loads of different places) over the last few days about professionalism and representation and so forth but if you read his statement the way I did, he was employed to be a little on the controversial side, a little irreverent, a lot entertaining, to gain momentum for the show, to create a "water cooler" moment each day. Sadly in doing what he was employed to do he may have just raised heckles a little much and bought it all to a head. Pushed or jumped? SOmeone on my FB summed it up nicely with "a golden kick in the bum", cause really, who takes a lawyer with them to resign? ------------- http://lilypie.com"> 
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Posted By: nathansmummy
Date Posted: 10 October 2010 at 7:56pm
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If you want to support Paul Henry and boycott Breakfast over this, you can do so on Facebook - here's a link to the fanpage:
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Boycott-TVNZ-Breakfast-now-that-Paul-Henry-has-Resigned/145472382163858 - Link |
Posted By: myfullhouse
Date Posted: 10 October 2010 at 8:07pm
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I think it is such a shame, sometimes his comments make me wince, but he was so refreshing to watch in this too-PC world. I will definately miss him, I don't think Breakfast will be the same without him. Such a shame that such a mountain has been made out of a molehill! ------------- Lindsey
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Posted By: LittleBug
Date Posted: 10 October 2010 at 9:20pm
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I'm glad he resigned. It was the right thing to do.
The fact that the indian communities are so upset about it is evidence enough for me. ------------- Chloe (4 years) and Oliver (3 years). |
Posted By: nathansmummy
Date Posted: 10 October 2010 at 9:43pm
| Yep he's definitely made me wince a few times... but mostly laugh. And sometimes I downright disagree with him and wish he wasn't so buddy-buddy with John Key... but he's still so interesting to listen to, and entertaining. And human. Instead of presenters who come across as cardboard cut-outs with lips that move. |
Posted By: nathansmummy
Date Posted: 10 October 2010 at 11:19pm
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You can also (if you are a super big fan) sign a petition here (it will be sent to TVNZ):
http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/paulhenry/ - Petition |
Posted By: susieq
Date Posted: 11 October 2010 at 12:07am
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I liked him too, and just heard the midnight news, apparently some media have been outside his elderly mothers rest home, trying to get the reaction or news too, disgusting
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Posted By: Red
Date Posted: 11 October 2010 at 8:08am
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I love Paul Henry - brings a bit of humour to morning telly. Won't be the same without. Pippa was on the verge of tears earlier, which made me well up as well! ------------- http://lilypie.com">  http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: myfullhouse
Date Posted: 11 October 2010 at 11:37am
I agree! ------------- Lindsey
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Posted By: mum24
Date Posted: 11 October 2010 at 12:38pm
| Do you think some people take themselves too seriously? Other countries have views about us we probably don't like. None of us are perfect and of course some people speak before they think. Really does the opinion person really matter? My parents always taught me that I should only care about what those who know me and love think of me, not every random person's opinion. |