New Beckham Baby
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Topic: New Beckham Baby
Posted By: GuestGuest
Subject: New Beckham Baby
Date Posted: 15 March 2011 at 11:18am
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Very cool that they are having a daughter after three boys......but is anyone else suspicious that this has been genetically engineered?
http://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/celebrities/4761780/Beckhams-expecting-first-daughter - News article |
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Posted By: queenbean
Date Posted: 15 March 2011 at 11:57am
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Yes, have to say that the thought did cross my mind.
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Posted By: minxynzl
Date Posted: 15 March 2011 at 12:09pm
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Not necessarily - after 3 boys in a row, statistically the chances of conceiving a girl are higher than if they already had girls. ------------- http://alterna-tickers.com"> 
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Posted By: High9
Date Posted: 15 March 2011 at 12:12pm
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I hadn't thought that, sure they'd have the money to do that but surely there would be someone who couldn't keep their mouth closed about it and we'd know?!
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Posted By: jazzy
Date Posted: 15 March 2011 at 12:29pm
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I guess it is something you will never know.
I know several who have had a child the opposite sex after having a few the same in a row...luck of the draw I reckon. |
Posted By: newme
Date Posted: 15 March 2011 at 12:32pm
| I am def suspicious. |
Posted By: _Deb_
Date Posted: 15 March 2011 at 12:36pm
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I never really thought about it. Someone i know had 4 girls then a boy and my MIL had 3 boys then a girl. Then another girl, then another boy. lol. ------------- 
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Posted By: millymollymandy
Date Posted: 15 March 2011 at 12:42pm
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How "statisticaly" can the chances be in anyone's favour for a girl after 3 boys?? Simple biology determines that each time you are either getting an x or y chormosome from Dad, the gender of you other children is totally irrelevant. Its always 50/50. If you did a comparison of 4 child families, each combination of boys vs girls would be roughly the same. Crikey one of my friends is from a family of nine girls!
Still nice for them to get a wee girl though huh. |
Posted By: GuestGuest
Date Posted: 15 March 2011 at 12:45pm
How so? Surely the chance is the same? |
minxynzl wrote:Posted By: millymollymandy
Date Posted: 15 March 2011 at 12:53pm
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Posted By: GuestGuest
Date Posted: 15 March 2011 at 12:57pm
Oh yeah, good point MMM, I just read back on your post 
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Posted By: Kazper
Date Posted: 15 March 2011 at 1:23pm
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That's interesting. Are you sure that report isn't just like another magazine speculating that they have announced it cause on E ta couple of days ago a reporter was talking to them and they said they weren't going to find out the sex of the baby until it was born and quashed all the roomers that it was girl. Then again may be they just wanted people to think that. ------------- http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/545141" rel="nofollow">  |
Posted By: Kazper
Date Posted: 15 March 2011 at 1:28pm
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Huh just googled it. There are a lot of reports they have said they are having a girl so I'm prob wrong. So hard to know with reports these days. ------------- http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/545141" rel="nofollow"> |
Posted By: astral_monkey
Date Posted: 15 March 2011 at 1:28pm
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She has always wanted a girl, so I would not be in the least bit surprised. I think I read somewhere that the whole reason they were trying for a fourth is because she wanted a girl.
And there is no reason why they couldn't keep it quiet. Nobody knew Sandra Bullock had adopted a kid, or Nicole Kidman and Keith Urban had had their second via a surrogate, until it was officially announced. ------------- http://lilypie.com" rel="nofollow">  |
Posted By: jazzy
Date Posted: 15 March 2011 at 1:42pm
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I know someone with 3 boys & then a girl & is pg again & she is hoping for another boy. They did not try anything to get a girl as they did not care either way.
I know someone who kept trying for a girl after 4 boys & had twin boys & then gave up. DH has 4 boys & we keep trying hoping for a girl after our 3 boys, not that we really cared if it was a boy & have not gotten pg. Good on them if they get a girl, they have enough money & nannies to have a tribe, lol. |
Posted By: ElfsMum
Date Posted: 15 March 2011 at 1:47pm
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sorry havent read replies..there are a lot of rumours they did choose the sex..and also she said if this one is a boy they will keep trying..ugh makes me mad..:( nothing wrong with boys!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ------------- Mum to two amazing boys! |
Posted By: Princess_Bubs
Date Posted: 15 March 2011 at 1:48pm
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I am suspicious I must say, they have been open in interviews previously about how they would love a little girl.
They have enough money to bypass biology so why wouldn't they. 'The heart wants what the heart wants' they say. My df's mum longed for a daughter, that was all she wanted. She ended up with 4 boys before giving up  ------------- http://lilypie.com" rel="nofollow">  Two Precious Angel Babies 2010 / 2011 
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Posted By: Princess_Bubs
Date Posted: 15 March 2011 at 1:49pm
Second what you said Elf's mum - I'll take what ever I can get. As long as you have a healthy child who cares, It's the biggest blessing in the world  ------------- http://lilypie.com" rel="nofollow"> Two Precious Angel Babies 2010 / 2011
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Posted By: Limochick
Date Posted: 15 March 2011 at 2:05pm
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I've got 3 boys and then just had a girl so it can happen, but who knows we'll probably never know whether it was engineered to have a girl or not.
Congrats to them though I bet she will be a stunner!! -------------  
 
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Posted By: jazzy
Date Posted: 15 March 2011 at 2:09pm
I don't see anything wrong with people wanting to try for another baby if they have all the same, don't think it says they love one sex more than the other. Not every one gets one of each, not every one cares, I will always wish I had a daughter but not at the sake of my boys. But I do see how some would do all they can to achieve the result they want. I am against having it done chemically or should I say I would never do that. |
Posted By: GuestGuest
Date Posted: 15 March 2011 at 2:16pm
| Yeah I agree PB, I have heard them say several times that they really want a girl, add that together with millions of dollars and access to the best specialists and I wouldn't be surprised if they engineered it themselves. I really couldn't see her having another baby with her body image issues if it wasn't guaranteed. |
Posted By: _Deb_
Date Posted: 15 March 2011 at 2:34pm
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Forgot to add that it wouldn't suprise me at all if they did choose the sex. -------------
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Posted By: ElfsMum
Date Posted: 15 March 2011 at 2:51pm
sorry it just really bugs me i have two wonderful boys but even if i didn't i get why people can be disappointed but i don't get why people are actually sad and distraught for months that they didn't get a particular sex.. it really makes me mad:( as for the they have the money why wouldn't they..i guess sadly that's true but I don't believe in choosing sex of the baby obviously lol:) wonder what they will call her:) ------------- Mum to two amazing boys! |
Posted By: AngieBabe
Date Posted: 15 March 2011 at 3:00pm
I am definitely suspicious that they've by-passed biology and gone for a designer baby  mainly 'cause it's been well documented how they've longed for a girl, they move to the States where gender selecting is allowed (from what I understand, in the UK it isn't), they have the money to pay the high price for the right specialists and lastly, after quite some time saying they love the lifestyle etc in the US and that they were going to sell 'Beckingham Palace' she's preggers and now that all changes....
Granted, my opinion has been formed from piecing together bits I've read and heard in (generally gossip) media and lord knows you can't trust that! So guess it'll be forever unknown. What I really would love to happen is that they truthfully don't know the gender yet and it's actually another boy  ------------- http://lilypie.com" rel="nofollow">  
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Posted By: lilfatty
Date Posted: 15 March 2011 at 3:02pm
Ive got one of each .. and boys are such a pita! they never stop moving or putting their hands in anything dirty or dangerous .. seeeeesh give me girls anyday.
I however wouldnt trade my Elias for the world ------------- Mummy to Issy (3) and Elias (18 months) I did it .. 41 kgs gone! From flab to fab in under a year  http://www.femininefitness.co.nz/category/blog - LFs weight blog
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Posted By: jazzy
Date Posted: 15 March 2011 at 3:02pm
I have 3 gorgeous boys & when I was in hospital pg with DS2 before he was born my room mate was pg with her second boy & she told me she cried for months after she found out she was having a boy as she wanted 1 of each & they were not having any more, she still had not come to terms with it & we were 8mths pg then. I was like hmm ok. But I can see how some may be really upset missing out on a boy or girl. I guess that is why some try the Shettles Method...non invasive. Wonder if they tried that would there be an outcry or is it because it is them. |
Posted By: GuestGuest
Date Posted: 15 March 2011 at 3:07pm
I'm definitely not a fan of gender selection. What happens to the unwanted embryos of the wrong sex?? I would feel less uneasy about it if I knew that they were being donated to other couples rather than just destroyed 
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Posted By: EmDee
Date Posted: 15 March 2011 at 3:08pm
Bahaha, see I can say exactly the same, but for my girl! And likewise, I wouldn't change her for anything ------------- DS 8 DD 6 DS 4 DD 2 |
Posted By: High9
Date Posted: 15 March 2011 at 3:26pm
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Imo you get what you get. If you WANT a baby then accept what you get.
Mil has 3 boys but had 2 miscarriages in between each, she gave up trying for a girl as she was worried of another M/C but she's very glad to have a granddaughter! Also DPs gran has 4 boys and her youngest 5th child is a girl. Mils mum has 2 boys and 2 girls. My dad has 3 boys and 1 girl from his previous marriage and then me to my mum. It's definitely 50/50 you get X from mum and either X or Y from dad but I do recall learning in Bio about a table and likeliness of having male/female etc - can't recall what it was called... anyone?? ------------- http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: rorylex
Date Posted: 15 March 2011 at 5:22pm
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hmm. sorry but i dont think i can judge them on this one.
I have 4 boys and I love them and have never once knowing what they were wished them anything else. however if i was asked what is the one thing i want more than anything I would have to say a little girl of my own. we are ttc for our next child and honestly if we had that kind of money to throw away and in a country with that freedom of choice I too would proberbly do it. but then if i had that kind of money i would happily have 10 kids lol but then I can birth naturaly i dont have to worry about saftey of multiple c-sections. if we dont have a girl at all of course im going to grieve over it. its not just frilly dresses that you grieve is an entire life, you think about always being that mil that dil's dislike, the sports that boys are less likely to pick, ballett, gymnastics etc never getting to share your favoutire childhood dolls with someone who will love playing with it just as much. there is a big list of things that you think about missing out on. but then i remind myself that I have 4 wonderful boys and one day in 20yrs time(soo long) I might get to share that with a grand daughter. I am more than happy for the next to be a boy we arnt trying for a girl, just if i had that option i dont think i could honestly say i would pass it up. and no i could not destroy embryos either a life is a life no matter how small. ------------- Mummy to 4 boys Samuel - 18.6.05 Rory - 15.7.06 Mason - 13.06.08 Emmett - 24.01.10 Baby #5 - cooking |
Posted By: _H_
Date Posted: 15 March 2011 at 5:22pm
Its the same with IVF though- what do you do with the left over embryos? |
Posted By: GuestGuest
Date Posted: 15 March 2011 at 5:32pm
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I completely get what you're saying rorylex, I think the relationship that sons and daughters have with their mother is quite different and in an ideal world it would be fantastic to experience both. Good luck for baby #5!
Halted, good question, what do you do with the leftover embryos? How many frozen embryos must be in the world right now?!? |
Posted By: Babykatnz
Date Posted: 15 March 2011 at 5:51pm
You also have a niece (you're only one unless little brother eventually has a girl ) that you are more than welcome to spoil rotten but I can understand wanting to have your own daughter so you can have the mother/daughter relationship like you've had with mum
I dont think they went with gender selection barring the old ttc tricks, but agree with whoever said statistically they'd be more likely to have a girl now, its a 50/50 thing IF there are no environmental factors tipping scales, so after 3 boys, I would think its more likely they'd have a girl to 'even' out their odds (if its a girl they're now 75/25 as opposed to 100/0 if the media is wrong and its a boy after all) ------------- Brandon - 05/12/2003  
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Posted By: rorylex
Date Posted: 15 March 2011 at 6:05pm
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lol I know i have a neice to spoil i was about to say that while i wait for a dd or grand dd i have a niece and a few other girls around to spoil. and i do I love bday and xmas shopping when im shopping for said neice and 2 close friends dd's, DH does have dd but she lives other end of country and we just dont have that relation ship. ------------- Mummy to 4 boys Samuel - 18.6.05 Rory - 15.7.06 Mason - 13.06.08 Emmett - 24.01.10 Baby #5 - cooking |
Posted By: millymollymandy
Date Posted: 15 March 2011 at 7:22pm
| Lil Nic - the tables are "punnet squares". DH is a bio teacher he he he. |
Posted By: High9
Date Posted: 15 March 2011 at 8:29pm
Yes! That's it! Thanks! Rorylex, completely know what you mean! I know DP wanted a boy for similar reasons and he still hopes that one day we'll have a boy! He's just glad DD is healthy and that she loves his fave childhood book - The Little Yellow Digger. lol. ------------- http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: emz
Date Posted: 15 March 2011 at 11:25pm
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Hmm haven't really thought too much, but on the gender thing and chances...
First time, you have 50/50 2nd time, you have a 52/48 chance favouring the sex of the child you already have 3rd time, that can up to as much as 75/25 - this is based on the assumption that the male may produce more of one gender's sperm than the other, that the mother may have a better environment for fostering the growth of a certain gender's embryo, and also there are some schools of thought on it being more difficult to conceive a girl after having a boy if closer together, as your body has had a bigger chemical change producing a boy than a girl. Hope that makes some sense to someone! |
Posted By: WestiesGirl
Date Posted: 15 March 2011 at 11:42pm
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lol! I guess it is a bit suspicious. But good on them! ------------- Our Angel July 08  Gone but not forgotten
And to complete our family, our princess has arrived 
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Posted By: jazzy
Date Posted: 16 March 2011 at 7:15am
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Are they having a girl?
I guess if they do have a girl then people with say they gender selected & if they have a boy it will be oh poor her another boy..she did not get her girl. What ever they have & how ever many they have they will be well loved & looked after. |
Posted By: LadyBee
Date Posted: 16 March 2011 at 7:48am
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Yep your right Jazzy ^^
If she has a girl wonder what name they will choose??? It would have to be orignal being the Beckhams Brooklyn, Romeo, cuze and ...... ------------- TTC for 4 1/2 years IVF #1 - April 2012 short BFP, no frosties IVF #2 - August 2012, BFP!! 3 frosties! http://lilypie.com" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: jazzy
Date Posted: 16 March 2011 at 8:51am
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LadyBee lol on the name...personally I would rather try & guess the name than if it is chemically engineered...sounds more fun
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Posted By: princesspumpkin
Date Posted: 16 March 2011 at 7:19pm
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Bahaha...they've probably had a girls name stashed away for years.
If anyone was going to be a creepy designer baby couple though, it would totally be them 
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Posted By: High9
Date Posted: 16 March 2011 at 8:35pm
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If they've desperately been wanting a girl then yup - they will already have a name picked out! I look forward to hearing it. ------------- http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: jazzy
Date Posted: 16 March 2011 at 9:05pm
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Well I had girl names pick for all my boys before I had boy names.
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Posted By: RedHeadDuck
Date Posted: 16 March 2011 at 9:18pm
I am the girl that was born with 3 big brothers- all I have to say is good luck
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Posted By: High9
Date Posted: 16 March 2011 at 9:50pm
Neither do I tbh... On DPs side it's very common to have lots of boys then a girl. ------------- http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: TheKelly
Date Posted: 16 March 2011 at 11:13pm
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Can't be bothered reading all the replies,BUT I will say,that you certainly have a higher chance of having the same sex with each that you get,BUT its not impossible to have 3 or 4 of the same,then a different gender,and its possible that happened to them.
I know of at least 4 women who had all boys then a girl, (and one family that had 3 girls,then a boy ) and one thing they all had in common, was a biggish age gap between the last boy,and the girl. In their case they also do, their youngest is 6. I don't think there is anything wrong with hoping for a certain sex,or being disappointed if you don't get the gender you want, gender disappointment is a very real thing,it doesn't make someone a bad person, or mean they are going to love their child any less, it may just mean they have to alter the dreams they had. ------------- 
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Posted By: TheKelly
Date Posted: 16 March 2011 at 11:29pm
My daughter's stepmum thought all the way through her pregnancy that their 3rd was a girl,she had two boys who she adored,and she loves being the mum of boys,but she had always,since she was a little girl,seen herself having 2 boys then a girl...I can understand that,I've always seen myself with a girl, a boy and another girl(which I got) . Then she was told at the scan that it looked like baby might be a boy,she took that "might" and pinned all her hopes on it being wrong,and baby infact being a girl, all through her pregnancy (which incidentally was when I was pregnant with Ty,our babies were born a week apart) she insisted,somewhat stubbornly,that baby was a girl. To the point where admittedly I almost hoped she would be proven wrong. She had baby a week later,a little boy,she said that while she was pushing she had a thought in her head "its another boy,and his name should be J**** " I could see when I visited how much she loved him,but I could also see how disappointed she was that she didn't get the baby she had envisioned,and my heart broke for her,its not accepted in society to be disappointed when you don't get the gender you want,when there are so many couples just hoping for a baby full stop,its seen as ungrateful to be disappointed,but she didn't WANT to be disappointed,she just couldn't help how she felt. 14 weeks after he was born their son was diagnosed with Downs syndrome, and it added insult to injury, she no longer cared what gender her son was,she just wanted him to be ok ....those were some pretty dark times, she was pretty angry at the world, and felt doubly disappointed,first for not getting the girl she desired,and secondly for her son not being "normal ", she came out of that rut,the clouds lifted and I honestly don't know of many mothers who love their son as much as she does,the pride she takes in his smallest achievements,is beautiful. BUT they are going to be trying for another baby soon,their last,and yes,she desperately hopes for a girl, and if its a boy,yes,she will be disappointed,even while her heart breaks with love for him. And you know what? I will be praying that the baby is not only healthy, (and I know that will be their first prayer too) but that its a girl,I would love them to have a girl, they deserve it after everything they have been through,and besides, Caitlyn would love another sister. As for being upset for months...I don't think anyone willingly chooses to feel that way,who would choose to feel upset? somethings you just can't help. -------------
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Posted By: Raspberryjam
Date Posted: 17 March 2011 at 7:46am
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meh, who cares, maybe they picked a pink embryo over a blue one, but those kids will be well and truely catered for and have the best of everything, and Im sure they will adore their babies just like we adore ours
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Posted By: NewPhoenix
Date Posted: 17 March 2011 at 9:54am
| i think its pretty appalling that there is even discussion on it, how offended would any of you be if there was speculation that you had chosen your baby's gender in such a public way? It's horrible that people think it is OK to speculate on such a personal thing when you are in no way connected with the family, and even more that you would do it in a public forum. just because they are famous and have money, it doesn't mean that they have gone down that path. it would be such a hurtful thing to know that anyone was talking about it, let alone people on the other side of the world you have no involvement with. |
Posted By: Bizzy
Date Posted: 17 March 2011 at 10:05am
wouldnt it be funny if wasnt though. Sometimes the least attractive people make the cutest babies and vice versa! ------------- http://www.myfitnesspal.com/weight-loss-ticker"> 
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Posted By: Bizzy
Date Posted: 17 March 2011 at 10:08am
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ah sh*t thekelly! you have a way with words, beautifully said! ------------- http://www.myfitnesspal.com/weight-loss-ticker">
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Posted By: Plushie
Date Posted: 17 March 2011 at 10:13am
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re: Kellys post - i 'felt' that i had a girl for a large portion of my early pregnancy, brought girls clothes and all. The deciding factor for finding out the sex was that i didnt want to give birth to a boy and feel even a moment of disappointment because it wasnt the girl i'd thought it was the entire pregnancy. Lucky, as it was, becaus i did have a boy and i was certainly a little disappointed at the anatomy scan with all my girl dreams crushed but i'd 200% rather have had the disappointment at the scan then at the birth.
As for the beckham baby, wouldnt be suprised if it was genetic, not sure it matters really - in the end it'll be fed warm and clean and thats more important then how it got here in the first place. |
Posted By: Raspberryjam
Date Posted: 17 March 2011 at 1:02pm
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Posted By: TheKelly
Date Posted: 17 March 2011 at 1:17pm
Thanks Deb....bet you would have preferred it if I SANG it instead of writing it ,mwah ha ha ! -------------
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