New Law
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Topic: New Law
Posted By: ooEvaoo
Subject: New Law
Date Posted: 03 October 2006 at 6:48pm
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Hey there everyone. I was just wanting to know about the new law they passed in NZ, where if you have left NZ and are returning to visit you aren't allowed to leave the country if you owe money (have debts over there). I've been trying to look it up on the net but can't find anything ?????? Just interested as like most people I have debts but have made arrangements to pay them off, so just wanted to know a bit more about it if anyone is able to help ------------- 
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Posted By: mummy_becks
Date Posted: 03 October 2006 at 7:13pm
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It is if you have fines not debt. Try the ministry of justice website. ------------- I was a puree feeder, forward facing, cot sleeping, pram pushing kind of Mum... and my kids survived! |
Posted By: Anna
Date Posted: 03 October 2006 at 7:57pm
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Fines over $5000, you either have to pay them or you cannot board your flight.
Fines over $1000, you are allowed to go but there is a 'silent notification' to the ministry. ------------- Anna http://lilypie.com"> 
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Posted By: ooEvaoo
Date Posted: 03 October 2006 at 8:12pm
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Awwwwww k thats cool then, Thanks for that ladies :). Lucky I only have a $55 fine lolz -------------
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Posted By: Rachael21
Date Posted: 03 October 2006 at 10:21pm
Are you allowed to go on holiday with fines? DP owes around 10 000 i think 
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Posted By: mummy_becks
Date Posted: 03 October 2006 at 10:28pm
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Nope not out of the country now, have to pay them then and there to board the plane. Thou DH came home and told me that some guy was stopped with about $3000 and was told to pay up before he could go. He paid and left the country. ------------- I was a puree feeder, forward facing, cot sleeping, pram pushing kind of Mum... and my kids survived! |
Posted By: Rachael21
Date Posted: 03 October 2006 at 10:31pm
| That sucks what if they are getting paid off slowly? |
Posted By: busymum
Date Posted: 03 October 2006 at 10:58pm
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Citizens Advice would have more details too. It is fines and overseas travel related but I am not sure what amounts and what exceptions etc. -------------  |
Posted By: Lulu
Date Posted: 04 October 2006 at 8:53am
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I know this may be an unpopular view but I don't think it sucks at all. Do the crime you got to do the time. Why should people have holidays if they haven't repaid fines? ------------- Lou http://www.babysfirstsite.com"> 
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Posted By: Rachael21
Date Posted: 04 October 2006 at 10:23am
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I have to disagree on that most of my partners fines were gotten when he was under 18 and for things like no reg and wof. He was kicked out of home at 15 so he had to work and wasn't getting barely enough money to support himself so could hardly afford those. We grew up in a small town and one particualer policeman used to drive past his house every day to see if his car was there and fine him if it wasn't. They also use to beat DP and his mates up any chance thay got and more fines for fighting back.
He now works really hard and is paying as much as we can afford and why shouldn't we be allowed a holiday? My parents were actually going to pay for it as we can't afford it. |
Posted By: Lulu
Date Posted: 04 October 2006 at 10:29am
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I'm sorry but we all have our crosses to bear, a lot of us have come from disadvantaged backgrounds and have had prejudice from authority figures which have led to what seems like unjust fines and convictions. I think it is admirable that you are doing the best that you can to clear the fines, but even if a holiday is paid for by someone else it usually still costs for spending money etc. Maybe your parents could help you out with the fines instead and then you could save for your own holiday? ------------- Lou http://www.babysfirstsite.com">
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Posted By: toniellis
Date Posted: 04 October 2006 at 12:36pm
While I do agree with you Lulu, I find myself in the same predicament as Rachael. My man is paying off his fines AND doing community service to pay off $25k in fines. My parents were going to pay for our honeymoon and now we can't go because of the new law. And no they are not willing to pay off his fines & I wouldn't ask them anyway. So now I'm putting off my wedding for another 3 years. I guess that's how the cookie crumbles though aye  ------------- Mum to Alex (11), Blaire (10) & Erika (8) and Damien (6) Successful HWB VBA2Cs! Soon to be surrogate |
Posted By: mummy_becks
Date Posted: 04 October 2006 at 12:44pm
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Don't put your wedding off Toni just have a delayed honeymoon. We got married in March this year and still haven't had our honeymoon. ------------- I was a puree feeder, forward facing, cot sleeping, pram pushing kind of Mum... and my kids survived! |
Posted By: lizzle
Date Posted: 04 October 2006 at 1:01pm
| you can still have a honeymoon - go around the south island!! |
Posted By: Maya
Date Posted: 04 October 2006 at 1:16pm
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If you have a current time payment arrangement and haven't defaulted on the payments you are allowed to leave provided you have a return ticket. So it won't affect people leaving the country who are paying off thier fines, just those who have been avoiding them. ------------- Maya Grace (28/02/03)
 (02/01/06)
The Gremlins:Sienna Marie & Mercedes Kailah (14/10/06)
Lil miss:Chiara Louise Chloe (09/07/08)
Her ladyship:Rosalia Sophie Anais (18/06/12)
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Posted By: Anna
Date Posted: 04 October 2006 at 1:24pm
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I kinda agree with Lulu (living with a cop kinda warps your view on such things!) but this law is not out to get people who are already trying to pay off their fines, it is to get those people who ignore them and keep getting more. Andy has told me many a horrid tale of people who owe so many thousands of dollars for various reasons, only to go to court and have them wiped by the judge 'cause the amount they owe is so high. Kinda like a reward for offending...
Anyway, I don't know details but I am sure Emma is right re being allowed to go if you have an arrangement... ------------- Anna http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: Maya
Date Posted: 04 October 2006 at 1:44pm
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I just finished paying mine off. I was so gutted, I was 3 days late paying teh fine, and they whacked on court costs so I ended up paying an extra $100. But then it was my own fault for speeding in the first place, and then procrastinating about paying it... ------------- Maya Grace (28/02/03)
(02/01/06)
The Gremlins:Sienna Marie & Mercedes Kailah (14/10/06)
Lil miss:Chiara Louise Chloe (09/07/08)
Her ladyship:Rosalia Sophie Anais (18/06/12)
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Posted By: busymum
Date Posted: 04 October 2006 at 2:03pm
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The law is in place not to stop people from having a holiday, but because a lot of people rack up fines and then skip the country... that's what they're trying to avoid. ------------- |
Posted By: Bombshell
Date Posted: 04 October 2006 at 5:32pm
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if you have fines you may want to look at borrowing to repay them by bank loan etc = they get repaid - you have to repay the monies anyways AND you get to travel...why have this hang over you...
another thing not mentioned here is that ifyou have baycorp listings some can actually stop you from travelling also - have knowledge of a few people stopped at border and questioned re baycorp debts...most of the time they let you go on them as dont think they can stop you per se but is a HUGE warning as may not be lenient the next time... I made my Dh (he who buries head in sand and incurred court costs on a speed ticket) repay his - $20 a week for about 18 months - pretty painless but better than getting a warrant to arrest out on you and more court costs added!!! And he deserved it (for speeding!) so HE paid from HIS wages! |
Posted By: BaAsKa
Date Posted: 04 October 2006 at 5:53pm
| I have to agree with the ladies who have said "DO the crime PAY the time" i know that ALOT of people have 1 maybe 2 fines but that really should only acummulate to $1000 thereabouts so if the ammount you owe is significantly higher than that (indicating several offenses) then that person must not have learnt a lesson and this may just be the way to get through to them. When i was younger i had a speeding ticket in a high crash point and had to pay my fine with my xmas money which really upset me BUT i shouldntv been speeding! then a week later a speeder killed someone at that exact spot and that was a horrible price for someone else to pay so lesson learnt for me. |
Posted By: linda
Date Posted: 04 October 2006 at 9:59pm
| The guy that was made to pay at the airport was not from running up parking tickets etc but because he wasn't paying money to his victim (can't remember what its called). Interesting that he paid the money and then went on his way so his victim will be getting some money and if they didn't have the new law in place then he'd of kept travelling and the victim would be no better off. |
Posted By: Bombshell
Date Posted: 05 October 2006 at 4:56pm
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Reparation....thats what it was...becomes a court fine when it is unpaid but is basically a fine to pay to the victims of the crime...
Yes you will find most dodgers have the money or the means to pay (some or via AP weekly) cause if you are on a benefit they can link to you anyway! |
Posted By: Maya
Date Posted: 05 October 2006 at 5:51pm
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The minimum limit to be stopped from travelling is like $5000 anyway, which as someone else pointed out is a lot of fines.
I had a heap of fines as a teenager from driving unregistered unwarranted cars but they were still nowhere near $5K. Considering the average speeding ticket etc. is less than say $200, plus court costs of up to another $200, you'd have to rack up a lot of fines to get to 5k. My brother on the other hand crashed into a police car and got a $7000 court reparation order, so I guess he might have a problem...  ------------- Maya Grace (28/02/03)
(02/01/06)
The Gremlins:Sienna Marie & Mercedes Kailah (14/10/06)
Lil miss:Chiara Louise Chloe (09/07/08)
Her ladyship:Rosalia Sophie Anais (18/06/12)
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Posted By: mummy_becks
Date Posted: 05 October 2006 at 5:53pm
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Ouch a cop car. Not the best person to run into and it be your fault. ------------- I was a puree feeder, forward facing, cot sleeping, pram pushing kind of Mum... and my kids survived! |
Posted By: Maya
Date Posted: 05 October 2006 at 6:06pm
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Yep. He is such a clown. They pulled him up, so he pulled over and they pulled in front of him and he got out of the car but left it in neutral and it rolled forward. It seems the flash reflective paint on those cop cars is pretty pricey tho - the repairs were really expensive and he got ordered to pay! ------------- Maya Grace (28/02/03)
(02/01/06)
The Gremlins:Sienna Marie & Mercedes Kailah (14/10/06)
Lil miss:Chiara Louise Chloe (09/07/08)
Her ladyship:Rosalia Sophie Anais (18/06/12)
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Posted By: Bombshell
Date Posted: 06 October 2006 at 9:13pm
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yeah Dh (he who buries head in sand) copped a $200 speed ticket, then court costs then ignored it and when i discovered it was $800 - could have killed him
Think boy racers who were 20 - 25 5 years ago tho and that is who has the BIG fines....they will regret those ones...most of them look at $500 - $1000 per fine... Also dispute tribunal ones not paid count too....and they can be up to $7500 a pop.... OUCH! |
Posted By: Rachael21
Date Posted: 07 October 2006 at 5:23pm
| I found out bens is actually $6k but he would get fines of like $1k at a time for wrong licence no wof or reg and cut springs and all that stuff. |
Posted By: Maya
Date Posted: 07 October 2006 at 7:52pm
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My Willie who is in his mid-40's (shhhh!) was "cruising" in my oh so stylish people mover this afternoon blasting the bass... It seems boy racers never grow up! ------------- Maya Grace (28/02/03)
(02/01/06)
The Gremlins:Sienna Marie & Mercedes Kailah (14/10/06)
Lil miss:Chiara Louise Chloe (09/07/08)
Her ladyship:Rosalia Sophie Anais (18/06/12)
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Posted By: mummy_becks
Date Posted: 07 October 2006 at 8:13pm
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Thats not that bad then Rach. Once it is under $5000 then you can def go away overseas. I heard on the news that when the fines are between $1000 and $5000 an alert is sent to some department to say they have gone overseas. ------------- I was a puree feeder, forward facing, cot sleeping, pram pushing kind of Mum... and my kids survived! |
Posted By: Rachael21
Date Posted: 07 October 2006 at 9:10pm
| Yeah heaps of our mates have moved to aus is the past year so we wanted to go visiting |