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Topic: MenzB
Posted By: busymum
Subject: MenzB
Date Posted: 26 October 2006 at 1:00pm
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What do you all think about the latest news on the MenzB injections? Are you happy with your decision to/to not immunise your kids? -------------  |
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Posted By: EthansMummy
Date Posted: 26 October 2006 at 1:15pm
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What is the lastest news?? Where can i find it?? ------------- ** MUM TO ** Ethan 29/08/2006 Brooke 22/09/2008 |
Posted By: lizzle
Date Posted: 26 October 2006 at 1:57pm
| Appanretly ACC has granted 33 cases compensation, as it believes they are linked to having the vacinations. I immuinsed Jake and Taine and am completely happy to. I know some people have chosen not (namely my BIL - who lectures and drives me crazy), but I think the risk of a reaction is not high enough, but the risk of menzB is. |
Posted By: caraMel
Date Posted: 26 October 2006 at 2:08pm
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This http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/story.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10407700 - article has a bit about the cases.
I hate the MeNZB jabs, both Ella and Benjy have been really off colour after getting them. I'm much more scared of them getting meningitis though so I choose one or 2 days of that to hopefully protect them from a completely devestating illness. ------------- Mel, Mummy to E: 6, B: 4 and: 
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Posted By: 11111
Date Posted: 26 October 2006 at 2:11pm
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We have chosen not too long story, but for us at this stage we are happy with that we wanted to wait a bit. ------------- Deborah Mum to:   
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Posted By: james
Date Posted: 26 October 2006 at 2:14pm
i am happy with james to get all 4 mezb jabs as i would rather have him a little icky for a day or so then getting real sick ------------- <a href="http://lilypie.com"><img src="http://b4.lilypie.com/nLJ5p13.png" alt="Lilypie 4th Birthday Ticker" border="0" /></a> |
Posted By: meow
Date Posted: 26 October 2006 at 2:18pm
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I thought about it for ages and postponed getting them.. I think the media is throwing it all out of proportion, like they do with everything when they have no real news to write about. (eg that we can't eat chicken anymore.. load of crap, it's always been that you need to cook it properly).
What I am a bit concerned about is that the vaccine wasn't tested properly, not long enough.. all of the others have been tested for a decade or more, and they say that the Norweigian vaccine was tested but in truth the vaccine we used was slightly different to that one.. One point I noticed in the news was that the Norweigian vaccine was never used apart from the initial tests.. that's strange don't you think? ------------- http://lilypie.com"> 
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Posted By: my2angels
Date Posted: 26 October 2006 at 2:27pm
| Im happy with my choice to, but them im very pro immunisation. I still think that the risk of getting the diseases out weigh the side effect which in our cas have been none so far. All vaccines have risks, what doesnt these days. |
Posted By: luna
Date Posted: 26 October 2006 at 3:47pm
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Amelia had her 6 week jabs at 12 weeks. I was a bit 'iffy' on the MenzB, but figured it's better than getting Meningitis itself. However, 3 weeks later and she still has a small lump and a long red spot (as big as a small fingernail) on her leg.
Given the cases reportedly linked to the vaccine in Norway, and the ACC claims here, I am really thinking hard about whether to carry on with the MenzB vaccine - have a few weeks to make up my mind and talk to hubby about it. It would seem that it hasn't been tested to its full extent, so it really makes you wonder.  ------------- Selina http://lilypie.com"> 
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Posted By: Tastic
Date Posted: 26 October 2006 at 4:04pm
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Ive immunised Bailey and havent ever thought not to
the news etc are always talking about the down sides of everything... what about the 1000's or 100000's that the immunisations have saved? There are and always be pros and cons of EVERYTHING! that is life Im afraid |
Posted By: nuttymama
Date Posted: 26 October 2006 at 4:48pm
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It's a tough one we have had all of our kids immunised. When you put it into perpective how many thousands of children were done at that period of time and they have only had 33 cases presented to them so far. With such a large volume of children being immunised at the same time the numbers are always going to look higher than they really are. I'm sure if you compared these statistics with the reactions to the other imminusations they are probably on the same par!
I would still never hesistate in havingit done, I've seen the effects meningitis has. ------------- Abigail 06/01/2005 Jayden 21/11/2001 Micheal 03/04/1997 |
Posted By: Kazzle
Date Posted: 26 October 2006 at 4:55pm
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We have given Rhiannon her MenzB jabs...still has one to go...and luckily for us she has had no side effects or any reactions to any of the jabs so far.
I am happy with my choice, but i do believe that like anything else to do with our kiddies that the pros and cons need to be weighed up and if you are not happy to do it then dont and if you are happy then do.  ------------- http://lilypie.com"> 
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Posted By: aimeejoy
Date Posted: 26 October 2006 at 5:13pm
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Most of those 33 ACC claims are not what most of us would class as an adverse reaction. From what I have heard the varous claims were for kids that had fallen over cos their leg was sore, hurt their arm or something cos they were fighting having the jab and various other random things. There were a couple of cases of actual adverse reactions, but out of the hundreds of thousands (or more) of the vaccines that have been given, its pretty good...
If you cant tell I am pro-immunisation! Like the others have said, would much rather have the very minimal risk of side effects than her getting meningitis and dying or losing limbs... ------------- Aimee Hannah 22/10/05 Greer 11/02/08 |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 26 October 2006 at 5:46pm
| Ellas had all the jabs and had no side effects, she had a slight temperature after the last ones but nothing that bothered her. Im very pro immunisation aswell. |
Posted By: fattartsrock
Date Posted: 26 October 2006 at 7:15pm
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I am happy with my decision to have Jacob fully immunised, including the menz b. My opinion is that the benefits out-weigh the risks. I am also of the opinion that the reason why some un immunised kids don't get sick is maybe because most kids are? Just my opinion, though, and I have nothing at all against those who choose not to. ------------- The Honest Un PC Parent of 2, usually stuck in the naughty corner! :P |
Posted By: mummy_becks
Date Posted: 26 October 2006 at 7:43pm
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We got Andrew done and will get the next one done as well. I would rather have the jab and be protected than for my child to get menegitis and end up dying because of it. I know the jab doesn't fully protect a child from getting it but, I would feel so much better knowing that I have done something to help prevent it. I am also very pro jabs. ------------- I was a puree feeder, forward facing, cot sleeping, pram pushing kind of Mum... and my kids survived! |
Posted By: Two Blondinis
Date Posted: 26 October 2006 at 8:29pm
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Even though Caitlin had a reaction to her 6 week jabs (high temp and heart rate. GP said it was a "minor reaction") we are still continuing with her gabs. But I make sure she is totally well before hand, we're two weeks late for the 12 week jabs as she had a cold.
We are very pro-immunisations, side effects out weigh the illness and I totally agree with Annie (I might get slated for saying this but...)I think other parents have a choice whether to immunise or not because of us parents who do/have, as we have helped to keep those nasties at bay. Imagine the deverstaing outbreaks if everyone decided against the jabs? Just my opinion, I don't mean to upset anyone!!!! ------------- http://lilypie.com"> 
 
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Posted By: fattartsrock
Date Posted: 26 October 2006 at 8:30pm
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Toni, you just said exactly what I was trying to say!! ------------- The Honest Un PC Parent of 2, usually stuck in the naughty corner! :P |
Posted By: miss
Date Posted: 26 October 2006 at 8:45pm
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My husbands cousin died just over 3 years ago at the age of 20 from meningitis. Her mother knew it was - as soon as the first headache appeared she had her in getting treated. It didn't help and the next day she was dead. Her mum was on the fight for life that year promoting meningitis awareness. I saw what they went through, and still go through - the whole family spent our wedding in tears, because they knew that they would never have that with their daughter.
I will always choose immunisation. And I also agree with Toni. Having a friend with immuno-compromised children, non-vaccinated children who pick up childhood diseases have the potential to kill her kids. I also believe the only way that people can have the choice to not immunise is because the majority choose to immunise. (But I would never, ever tell someone they should immunise - I just have really strong reasons for doing it myself! I also have a friend who lost her brother to an adverse reaction to immunisation 30 years ago). -------------  
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Posted By: Bombshell
Date Posted: 26 October 2006 at 8:56pm
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We will be having all the vax...we live in auckland, way too close to south auckland and i would hate to think i would be a carrier from people i deal with through work etc to my child too...hey i ended up with whooping cough off a clients kid last year!!!
I know a lot of schools also now require full vax or a minimum of some of the vax before enrolment...and i wouldnt want to be starting the programmes late like that... There are always pros and cons in life...and we all weigh up the choices and choose from them...each to their own. |
Posted By: mummy_becks
Date Posted: 26 October 2006 at 9:03pm
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Schools ask to see the child's immunisation cert (in the well child book) and I think if they are not fully immunised then they have to sign something - Is that right miss?? Being a teacher (and I think a head teacher) do you know what schools require. ------------- I was a puree feeder, forward facing, cot sleeping, pram pushing kind of Mum... and my kids survived! |
Posted By: meow
Date Posted: 26 October 2006 at 9:43pm
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Like you Toni, I waited until Ella was well to get all immunisations.. which sometimes meant having to delay them a few weeks if she had a cold.
I know that creche's ask to see the immunisation cert.. so maybe schools do too. ------------- http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: nuttymama
Date Posted: 26 October 2006 at 9:56pm
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they ask at Kindy as well. From memory and I could be wrong butI think it means if there is an outbreak of a certain disease those children can be sent home as they are unprotected from it. ------------- Abigail 06/01/2005 Jayden 21/11/2001 Micheal 03/04/1997 |
Posted By: busymum
Date Posted: 26 October 2006 at 10:23pm
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Vick, yep that's what I was told when I had my kids enrolled at preschool.
As for the Norweigans using the vaccine only for a short time, I read that that was because the epidemic settled very soon after that. But now they are testing most of those people, now as young adults, for chronic fatigue. The ACC claims... yea that's not many and they didn't sound too serious. |
Posted By: ellabellame
Date Posted: 27 October 2006 at 10:19am
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i got all 4 menzb jabs for mikey and i'm happy with my decision. when i was in school, my friends big sister died of meningitis and the whole family and most of the school was devastated.
i thought about the possible side effects and decided to get him immunised after thinking how i would never forgive myself if i chose not to and he died because of it. it is a personal choice though and i would never judge someone for choosing not to immunise. ------------- |
Posted By: mummy_becks
Date Posted: 27 October 2006 at 10:53am
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I know daycares ask for the cert as well as I have had to provide it to Andrew's daycare 3 times now (as they update their records every year). I just remember my mum saying something to me about schools wanting the cert for some reason but can't remember now. ------------- I was a puree feeder, forward facing, cot sleeping, pram pushing kind of Mum... and my kids survived! |
Posted By: Rachael21
Date Posted: 27 October 2006 at 9:17pm
| I got Jack immunised and I agree with Annie and Toni. |
Posted By: Two Blondinis
Date Posted: 28 October 2006 at 12:18pm
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Like I posted under July Mummys thread, Caitlin had another reaction to her jabs (a mild one tho).
So next lot of jabs will be done under Hospital day stay, just in case. The specialist said that people who have any reaction to the jabs would be even more sick if they got the actual illness, hence our decision to continue to immunise (hope my nerves hold out tho! )------------- http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: Rachael21
Date Posted: 28 October 2006 at 1:49pm
| Poor Caitlin and poor Mum and Dad that must be so scary. It's a good thing you did immunise her then. |
Posted By: miss
Date Posted: 28 October 2006 at 3:37pm
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Schools require he immunisation certificate for on file, and parents do sign something if you choose not to immunise. It is just for those very few times there is a break out of a communicable disease.
Toni, I hope Caitlin's reaction with the second shot isn't too bad - it must be hard going through it. We had 2 kids react to the first shots (luckily both were done at the docotrs rather than at school as that would ahve been scary!) I think only one went on to complete the course through the hospital. -------------
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Posted By: Maya
Date Posted: 28 October 2006 at 4:10pm
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Maya's had all her MenzB jabs, the disease is worse than the immunisation etc. etc. But I think I will wait until the twins are a bit older to give them theirs.
Toni - Maya had a nasty reaction to her 15 mth MMR so we have to do the hospital thing next time round too. It's scary, but better to be in controlled surroundings. ------------- Maya Grace (28/02/03)
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