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Topic: has anyone had or going through IVF with ICSI?
Posted By: poppy101
Subject: has anyone had or going through IVF with ICSI?
Date Posted: 05 February 2014 at 7:42pm
Hi there,
Has anyone been through or are going through IVF ICSI? I am booked in for this early next year 2015 to start treatment and I'm wondering if anyone has got any advise or wanting to share their experience with me.
We have been recommended to do this course of treatment due to male fertility issues and I have mild endo.
Looking forward to hearing from someone



Replies:
Posted By: babycrazy
Date Posted: 05 February 2014 at 8:05pm
Hey Jodie. We've got male factor issues in the form of no sperm. Just had ivf with icsi using donor sperm as that was what the specialist recommended. I'll get the embryo put back in next month.
What would you like to know? Ask away and I or someone else will try to help out.

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TTC since Oct 2009
4 x DI's failed
IVF1 CP & MC
IVF2 CP
IVF3 Angel baby born 22.3wks


Posted By: poppy101
Date Posted: 05 February 2014 at 8:44pm
Hi Babycrazy,
thanks for your reply. Goodluck for your transfer I hope it all goes really well for you.
After a recent appointment at Wellington Associates they revealed my boyfriend has anti sperm anti bodies, but that his count and motility are good. I was also diagnosed with mild endo in Oct so that doesn't help. Our best shot is IVF ICSI. I just really want to know anything about it, what the treatment will be like and our chances.. I guess that's a hard one to answer


Posted By: babycrazy
Date Posted: 05 February 2014 at 9:14pm
Who do you see in Wellington? We see mark stegman.
From what I've read they're doing more icsi now days due to the ability pick and choose the sperm they use.

Treatment is exactly the same as a regular ivf. I was on a short cycle which meant I did about 10 days of injections (which were fine by the way) then they collected the eggs. I responded super well and got 26 eggs but meant it was too risky to put any back hence why I'm waiting. Of the 26 they injected 16 with sperm and 8 fertilised. By freezing day I had two left for freezing so quite a few dropped off! And from what they tell me that's pretty normal.

Egg collection was quite sore but only because I had so many. Otherwise it wasn't anywhere as hard as I thought.

As for chances that's a bit out of anyone's control once it's back in the body it's up to nature. But at least you know they've done everything they can to make it work.

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TTC since Oct 2009
4 x DI's failed
IVF1 CP & MC
IVF2 CP
IVF3 Angel baby born 22.3wks


Posted By: poppy101
Date Posted: 05 February 2014 at 9:45pm
We also see Mark Stegman, who I met last week at our consultation.
Thanks so much for a bit of a heads up with the treatment. How did they decide whether to do a short or long cycle for you?
Its great to talk to someone also from Wellington, as I've been hoping to find someone/or a support group in wellington for infertility issues as its much easier to talk to someone who understands.


Posted By: Mrs Impatient
Date Posted: 06 February 2014 at 7:27am
Hi Jodie
I went through the long cycle and the reason I was on the long cycle is because I don't react to drugs that well. I had done 4 rounds of IUI and only had one cycle with 2 eggs and all the others were just one
For my IVF round I was one the pill (this wipes your system so to speak)and then started the injections in the hope they would have more of a reaction with me. I had 5 eggs and 4 fertilised (DH has good sperm and we didn't need to do ICSI), had one transfered on day 3 after egg collection (they do try and wait until day 5 but because I didn't have many and so many drop off they didn't want to risk losing them before the day 5 mark)
And I am very happy to sat that the little embie decided to make itself at home and I am 11 weeks and 3 days pregnant
I have my 12 week scan tomorrow, and can't wait to tell people

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TTC Mar 2011
4 IUI all BFN
IVF Dec BFP


Posted By: Mrs Impatient
Date Posted: 06 February 2014 at 7:28am
Forgot to say out of the 4 that fertilised, had one transfered and one frozen

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TTC Mar 2011
4 IUI all BFN
IVF Dec BFP


Posted By: Mellowpuff
Date Posted: 06 February 2014 at 11:45am
Hi Jodie010

I am not going through ICSI so can't really comment on that procedure, but we are currently in the midst of our first IVF cycle. So far everything has been pretty good. The 3 injections a day are becoming a bit of a chore but they really aren't that bad. I haven't had any side effects either which has been good. Basically I don't feel any different which did make me worry a little that things were not working as they should. I had my first scan yesterday though and we have about 8 follicles and all my blood levels are bang on track. Another scan and blood tomorrow and then possibly EC on Monday or Tuesday. Everything is going to plan according to my FS.

I have to admit I was very apprehensive about going down the IVF track, but I am so pleased that we have done it because it hasn't been that bad at all. Sure I haven't had EC yet which I hear can be quite painful for some, but at this stage I really haven't felt any different and things have all run very smoothly.

Our approach to this journey has been to keep our life as normal as possible and just carry on as usual. I think this has helped me stay relaxed and not let everything become so overwhelming which I know for some it can be.

Mrs Impatient - congratulations and thank you for sharing your journey. It is so encouraging to hear that your IVF cycle has been so successful especially with it being your first. certainly has given me that extra hope.

Good luck with everything ladies :-)

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Posted By: poppy101
Date Posted: 06 February 2014 at 12:28pm
Hi Mrs Impatient and Mellowpuff, thank you both for sharing your experiences with me as this website is helping me get my head around it a bit better than before. Mrs Impatient - Im so happy for you, how exciting! Goodluck for the scan I bet its an awesome feeling seeing your baby on the screen. How long was the wait until you found out you were pregnant, did FS ring you or do you do a test yourself?
Mellowpuff - thanks for sharing your experience with the needles etc, this is/was what I was nervous about as not a big fan of needles at all. How long were you on the waiting list before starting treatment, or was it private? I've been told the wait list is about 12mths and Im with Fertility Associates in Wellington.
Sending you both lots of luck with your journeys


Posted By: babycrazy
Date Posted: 06 February 2014 at 12:39pm
Mellow - I felt like nothing was happening until day of egg collection when my ovaries were very full and I could barely stand straight.

Jodie I waited 6mths to get to the top of the donor list then started treatment straight away (iui) when those didn't work I could've gone straight to ivf but due to my review appt being rescheduled and then my work then Xmas I decided to ivf in January when I wasn't so busy. You might be surprised and the wait may be shorter. Advice I was given was any testing (bloods, vag swabs etc) that they need done before you start get them done ASAP so you're ready to go.

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TTC since Oct 2009
4 x DI's failed
IVF1 CP & MC
IVF2 CP
IVF3 Angel baby born 22.3wks


Posted By: poppy101
Date Posted: 06 February 2014 at 12:46pm
Thanks babycrazy,
I really do hope the list isn't that long as I want to get started so fingers crossed! Yes I will definitely get everything done that I need before treatment so there's no set backs


Posted By: Mellowpuff
Date Posted: 06 February 2014 at 3:49pm
Jodie010 - your not alone, I hate needles too. That is why my husband has to do the injections for me because I just can't do it myself. I think it's worse for him because he hates the thought of hurting me, but he does such a good job that it really doesn't hurt that much - just a little prick. I'm with FA Hamilton and had to wait 12 months for public funding. It has seemed like a long wait but it actually went pretty fast and I am so grateful for it as we would never have been able to do this without it.

Babycrazy - thanks for sharing your experiences so far. I'm sorry to hear that after 26 eggs you only had 2 to freeze in the end. I have my fingers crossed for you transfer. I am starting to feel a bit crampy and very bloated so I guess that's the follicles growing. I expect come EG day I will be in a little discomfort. Thanks for the heads up.

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Posted By: babycrazy
Date Posted: 06 February 2014 at 5:48pm
It's all good mellow - I full expected that outcome they warned me of it. I was kind of hoping for three or four to freeze but not to worry. About 10 of the 26 weren't any good for fertilising.

Good luck for the rest of this week.

Jodie - the nurses usually have a better idea than mark lol so I usually ask them questions like that. He told me I'd be waiting 8mths to get ivf after the iui's and then I find out from the ivf co-ordinator that I could start straight away.

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TTC since Oct 2009
4 x DI's failed
IVF1 CP & MC
IVF2 CP
IVF3 Angel baby born 22.3wks


Posted By: epictraveller
Date Posted: 06 February 2014 at 9:33pm
Hi Jodie

I've had IVF with ICSI, we got four eggs, two fertilised and they transferred one which ended in a chemical and the other was no good for freezing so we're back at square one in May. I probably can't add a lot to what the others have said but ask if you do have any questions!



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#1

Angel babies April 2013, Nov 2013

IVF #1 Nov 2013-CP
IVF #2 May 2014-BFN
IVF #3 Feb 2015-BFN
DS Jun 2015-BFN
Oct 16 -Natural BFP!

TTC #2


Posted By: poppy101
Date Posted: 15 February 2014 at 6:19pm
Hi epictraveller,
sorry for the delay in getting back to you. I'm sorry to hear that it hasn't been successful for you yet but I wish you the best of luck for May which I'm sure will work out. Did you go private or public funding? I don't start till Feb next year but are thinking whether to go private so I can get on with it. If you don't mind me asking, why do you need to do IVF ICSI? Our problems are mainly male problems


Posted By: Stickybean138999
Date Posted: 21 February 2014 at 10:25pm
Hi everyone,

I have just failed our 1st ICSI. I am blaming myself not taking the drugs on time and was being too comfortable during the whole process, stay up too late and didn't eat well. So definitely when you start yours make sure you do exactly what the doctor says and spot on timing. Choose good diet and sleep well is very important! I heard many successful stories of couples try acupuncture along the way. Hope this could help you.    


Posted By: poppy101
Date Posted: 22 February 2014 at 2:12pm
Hi stickybean,
so sorry to hear the treatment didn't work this time round for you, but thank you so much for the good advice! I hope you don't mind me asking questions, where there any in good condition that were frozen for you to try again with or do you have to start a new cycle? Was this a private or publicly funded treatment? I'm due to start publicly funded IVF ICSI in Feb next (still a long wait), so am contemplating going private as I'm getting impatient.

I have also heard a lot of success stories with acupuncture during treatment, so I think this is something I will do too.
I really hope you find success in your next attempt?


Posted By: Stickybean138999
Date Posted: 22 February 2014 at 5:29pm
Hi poppy101,
I did it with Repromed, private. they collected 16 eggs, 9 were fertalising, only one made it further enough to transfer, the others were no good to freeze. I heard that other clinics provide reports showing the grade of the eggs or embyos, my doctor didn't. I really think I need a clearer understanding of what happened during what stage after all this. I am gonna meet my doctor next week to discuss about our last treatment, maybe we are planning to do another treatment but considering the cost, it makes the whole thing daunting and stressful. Like you, we can not wait for public funded treatment so we gave up our travel plans for the treatment. My hubby is very supportive all the way and told me not to worry about the money, but still...lots of emtions going down.
I think what you doing now is great, ask a lot of questions so when you want to start a private one at least you are all prepared, and having the public one as the last back up plan. And definately stop drinking or eating anything cold (room tempreture OK)ASAP, as it will affect the blood circulation in the uterus.

Hope all our little beans stick!


Posted By: poppy101
Date Posted: 22 February 2014 at 8:20pm
Hi Stickybean,
I have never heard of Repromed? Where abouts are you located? Im with Fertility Associates in Wellington. Yeah, we have received a letter to say we can start treatment in Feb next year.. a whole year seems ages away! But then I keep thinking what if it doesn't work and we've paid 13k (such a lot of money isn't it).
Wow, thanks for the info about the cold food/drink thing, I had no idea. Did your doctor tell you this?


Posted By: Stickybean138999
Date Posted: 26 February 2014 at 9:27pm
Hi Popy101,

I am in Auckland. My mum always told me not to touch anything cold when I was little(I'm Chinese,Chinese think there are ying and yang energies in human's body). I never believed my mum! After going through infertility and failed my first ICSI, I started researching a little bit, came out a more logical explanation is that cold drinks slow down the blood circulation in your uterus,and embryos are picky, they only look for fertile uterus to grow on.Since my body isn't working already so I might as well listen to the old man quit eating cold stuff.       One private ICSI won't break the bank


Posted By: poppy101
Date Posted: 27 February 2014 at 4:56pm
Wow, ok thanks for the info.
Yeah I guess it won't break the bank but im just scared of it not working.
How did you find the whole process? I hope you don't mind me asking but what were your fertility issues that required ICSI?


Posted By: Stickybean138999
Date Posted: 01 March 2014 at 10:53pm
Hi Poppy,

Sperm problem. My husband's sperm motility is very unstable, poor most of the time. The process was easy and straight forward, don't worry about the injections, hurt very little just like insect bites. Only when you do the trigger injection and othe other ones with thicker needles, allow a small angle so the needle goes in a lot quicker, spare you from the screaming and tears. Good sleep, keep calm, do your best and the rest of it is luck


Posted By: eclaire222
Date Posted: 18 July 2014 at 5:20pm
Hi Poppy,

I'm in Wellington too. I plan to start my first ICSI cycle in a couple of months time after I feel my body and mind is ready for it. It's taken me a long time to accept that we have to go down this path. We have to do ICSI as my husband has zero sperm count most likely from an obstruction.

I'm currently doing acupuncture to calm the spirit and plan to do yoga too. FA will be putting me on the short cycle - I think because I am in good health. We're going private.


Posted By: poppy101
Date Posted: 19 July 2014 at 10:00pm
Hey lills22,
thanks so much for your reply. We are planning on doing acupuncture too and have our first consultation in september. Ive been recommended to go katrina gascoyne out in mana who specializes in infertility so we will how that goes. I totally understand about getting in the right mindset, this is also nothing I thought I'd have to do. Its mainly the antibodies that are affecting our fertility. Can I ask how old u are and where abouts in wellington are u? Im 28, and we are with mark stegman at wellington FA.


Posted By: eclaire222
Date Posted: 20 July 2014 at 8:19am
Hi Poppy

The acupuncturist I'm seeing Janine at City Osteopaths. My periods have been quite irregular due to stress so hopefully acupuncture and acceptance of the situation will sort that out.

I'm in my early 30's and based in Eastern suburbs. I'm also seeing Mark Stegman.

What other things are you doing to look after yourself to prepare for the process? Also, do you plan to tell friends and family about what you're going through?





Posted By: Icecream
Date Posted: 20 July 2014 at 9:16am
Hi ladies, I have been following this thread.
In Otago and currently on long protocol for ivf - CD1 having been on the pill and finished on Thursday, first blood test Tuesday and then into the good drugs
I'm 32 and after all the tests seem to only have pcos
I have been reading up on things that could help and something I will be doing is only eating and drinking warm or room temperature food and drinks and keeping my feet nice and warm! I am generally always cold and living down south is cold!
We have not told friends and family, some close friends knew about my lap but not details of everything else, after 4 years we are use to it


Posted By: poppy101
Date Posted: 20 July 2014 at 10:11am
Hi lills and icecream,
lills, how do u find mark? Ive only met him the once and at first I thought he was a little blunt but after a while he started to be really friendly and quite funny. My first cycle isn't until feb, as we are going public funding, but have started to watch what I eat a bit and start basis exercise too, like swimming and walking more often. Im also hoping the acupuncture will help with relaxing. I have heard good things about it and she is going to do acupuncture on my boyfriend too to try and assist with the antibodies.
Icecream, I also heard about the warm drinks n food thingy too, which I will try and remember, I also heard to avoid hot showers and baths?
Um, my sister and mum know about the ivf and only 2 close friends, who one is also going through ivf herself next yr. I personally find it less stressful with a few people knowing, because if im having a depressing day I know I can have a wee cry, especially to my mum and sister who are very supportive.
Icecream goodluck with your cycle!! Wishing you the best of luck. Lills, it is so good to have someone else from wellington going through the same thing. Is there anything wrong with you or is it just sperm issues? I also have mild endo which doesnt help things so I guess I'll just have to see what happens.
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Posted By: Charlie6
Date Posted: 20 July 2014 at 3:00pm
Hi ladies,
We have done three full ivf cycles over the past year and 2 frozen embryo transfers. The first 2 cycles were short, but the last one we did was long protocol and it went much much better for us (we had 5 embryos fertilise normally out of 9, and 4 of the 5 made it to blastocysts for freezing.) We have also been doing accupuncture and feel that this has helped hugely in the quality of our eggs - although it is quite pricey. We were recomended to do weekly accupuncture for at least 3 months before starting the ivf cycle. We havent needed to do ICSI, but the while process is the same up until the eggs go to the lab and they inject them with the sperm rather than let the sperm do their thing.
I agree with the other ladies that the injections etc aren't too bad, it's more the emotional roller coaster that is the problem (although i was very positive and optimistic the first time around, it gets harder to stay so positive!). We finally got a positive result last month, but have just found that we have had a missed miscarriage, so will be trying again in a month or so with another of our frozen embryos.
I would say be prepared to be moved up the list, on our first public funded cycle we had been given a date, but luckily got a space 8 months earlier than we originally thought! Sorry for the long post! Good luck to everyone x


Posted By: poppy101
Date Posted: 20 July 2014 at 3:20pm
Hey charlie,
thanks for sharing your journey and so sorry to hear about the recent mc. Wow moved up 8mths is huge! FA told me I could be moved up maybe 1 mth earlier but highly unlikely because of my age? I'd love for it to start earlier than feb, so fingers crossed.
How do they decide whether you do a long or short protocol, and which is best? And can u choose whether they transfer one or two embryos?
Its great to hear that u think acupuncture has helped in your situation. Do u mind me asking what your fertility issues are?


Posted By: Charlie6
Date Posted: 20 July 2014 at 3:29pm
Ours are unexplained - hubby has 'gold star sperm' apparently! I'm through FA Auckland, and and 29. We asked for 2 embryos to be transferred but they said no way! Even when we paid for a private cycle they would only transfer 1. I think it's normal to do the short protocol, which is what we did the first 2 times, but the cycles didn't go well for us, and the egg quality wasn't great, so he recomended trying a longer cycle and the results were dramatically better for us. We also got moved up the list a few months for our 2nd public funded cycle, so I'll keep my fingers crossed you get moved up too!


Posted By: poppy101
Date Posted: 20 July 2014 at 4:27pm
Thats interesting about the one embryo transfer then, must just be standard in nz or could be to do with age. Im 28 so guess it'll be one too. Hmmm, I really do hope we get bumped up, feb seems like a long way away but I know it'll go fast, this year is flying by. Thanks for sharing your advise


Posted By: SweetConception
Date Posted: 20 July 2014 at 7:31pm
Hi Poppy. FAs "Pathways to a child" book (which you should get a copy of sometime before your cycle) says that single embryo transfer is mandatory for females under 35yrs on their first or second publicly funded cycle. (And strongly encouraged in most other situations).

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Beautiful girl born March 2016 after 7 years TTC


Posted By: epictraveller
Date Posted: 20 July 2014 at 8:15pm
Hey Charlie I'm really intrigued about the difference between short and long protocols for you! I've done IVF's where I was on the pill for about 3-4 weeks then did Gonal F and Cetrotide for 10 days to two weeks. I'm not sure what this qualifies as but I think it's short protocol? What did you do in your long protocol?

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#1

Angel babies April 2013, Nov 2013

IVF #1 Nov 2013-CP
IVF #2 May 2014-BFN
IVF #3 Feb 2015-BFN
DS Jun 2015-BFN
Oct 16 -Natural BFP!

TTC #2


Posted By: Icecream
Date Posted: 20 July 2014 at 10:12pm
Epic I am on the long protocol
Ava30 the pill for a cycle
During that I started 40ml of buresline a day
I am cd 1 today and due a blood test Tuesday,
Then Thursday (I think - can't reach my notes) I start gonal f at 225 and drop the buresline to 20ml

I think the long cycle just shuts everything down so you get a better baseline to build it back up

If you have been in the pill does that not mean the long protocol? As short is just starting in a normal day 1?

I am not 100% sure why I am in the long one, I know I am getting a higher does of gonal f (think this is to ensure my eggs respond?)

Just a waiting game I guess


Posted By: poppy101
Date Posted: 20 July 2014 at 10:57pm
Hi sweet conception, I remember now after u mentioned the book, thought it was to do with age.
Ive had my first consultation back in jan this year, so when am I likely to hear from FA again before starting my first publicly funded cycle?


Posted By: eclaire222
Date Posted: 21 July 2014 at 10:01am
Hi Poppy

I've only met him once. Yes, I found him a bit blunt too but more warm as the appointment progressed. As we're going private, I'm hoping I will get a BFP on my first cycle.

There isn't anything wrong with me just sperm issues.

All we can do is stay positive. Kind of kicking myself for being so upset about it for so long so really making sure I stay positive till I'm due for treatment.

It's good you have till February. Lots of time to work on your diet and prepare your body


Posted By: Charlie6
Date Posted: 21 July 2014 at 9:21pm
Same as what Icecream said, the whole process of the long protocol was about 6 weeks. Starting with going on the pill, then injections after that. With the short protocol we started injections on day 2.
Our Dr at FA also said they only put one embryo in as the risks with multiples aren't worth it - higher risk of miscarriage, preterm labour and complications, hospiitalisations etc...


Posted By: poppy101
Date Posted: 21 July 2014 at 9:47pm
Hey lills and charlie,
yeah guess starting in feb does give me time to get organised and prep my body. Lills, im sure your treatment will go well and everything will work out good for you. I know its stressful to think about what if it doesn't work, that is my biggest fear in all of this.. of it not working.
Charlie, I can understand why they'd only put one embryo in, I just thought if they'd put 2 in I'd have a better chance of success, but guess it doesn't work that way.


Posted By: Charlie6
Date Posted: 21 July 2014 at 10:39pm
Yeah I know we would have liked 2 to go back in but really we just need one to work to have a healthy baby... Try not to worry too much about it working the first time - hopefully it does for you ladies but know that if it doesn't work you can keep trying! I know I was adamant the first cycle for us would work and when it didn't I was a bit broken for a while, but have gotten stronger and been through some sh*t over the past year TTC... I just know that when it finally does happen (and I am positive that one day it will) I will be that much more grateful, appreciative and patient!


Posted By: epictraveller
Date Posted: 22 July 2014 at 6:06am
So true Charlie! Ice cream I only had tiny doses of Gonal F, 150 on my last one! I have never done buseline though. We gave four weeks till our next appointment with them and we need to decide what to do, I don't want to spend $10k on a cycle that only gets one embryo again!

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#1

Angel babies April 2013, Nov 2013

IVF #1 Nov 2013-CP
IVF #2 May 2014-BFN
IVF #3 Feb 2015-BFN
DS Jun 2015-BFN
Oct 16 -Natural BFP!

TTC #2


Posted By: eclaire222
Date Posted: 22 July 2014 at 9:33am
Could anyone tell me what supplements (not drugs) FA puts you on? Or what are you guys taking for support?

Epic traveller. I was wondering what your reasons are for preferring 2 embryos at a time rather than one?


Posted By: Charlie6
Date Posted: 22 July 2014 at 8:29pm
Hi Lills, I was told to stop taking all the vitamins i was on (vitamin c, fish oil and evening primrose) but it was okay to continue on with the Elevit, and hubby was on menevit. I am/was doing weekly accupuncture - which i think has really made a huge difference.


Posted By: eclaire222
Date Posted: 23 July 2014 at 1:01pm
Charlie, that's interesting. I will keep that in mind. I'm assuming you can resume those supplements once the cycle is successful? I heard that an antibiotic is taken during the course of treatment, did they advise probiotics afterwards? I've had my second session of acupuncture. I feel better already but I think that's mostly to do with the attitude I've decided to take. But everything helps, right?


Posted By: poppy101
Date Posted: 23 July 2014 at 11:07pm
Hi ladies,
thanks charlie for your positivity and I'd def prefer 1 healthy baby to having a risky pregnancy. It is reasurring to know that there are more opportunities if the first cycle isn't successful and thats what I need to keep in mind.
I can't wait to start acupuncture in september, I've heard from many people now that its had positive outcomes for them so hoping it helps me out too


Posted By: cruzychic
Date Posted: 01 September 2014 at 6:56pm
Hi Ladies

Just reading all your stories and posts and I have my fingers x'd for all of you. DH and I have been TTC for 5 years next month and found out in February that he has really low sperm count, we went on the list to find out if we could get a specialist appointment but due to my BMI was a no go publicly funded but were told that our only option would be to do IVF with ICSI. So I have made it my goal to try and lose as much weight as I can to get under the 32 BMI requirement by the end of January so we can at least get an appointment to get ourselves on the waitlist. We discussed adoption this week together and investigated it but have decided that going through the IVF root we would have more of a chance at getting our little bundle than waiting to be approved for adoption and waiting to see if we get picked to adopt. I would love to know how you ladies are finding the ICSI option and if you have been successful yet. Thanks for listening :)

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TTC since October 2009
Diagnosed with PCOS June 2010


Posted By: Babyshrimp
Date Posted: 03 September 2014 at 10:52am
Hi cruzy,

Me and my husband did ivf icsi, it's our only option as my husband has azoospermia (sperm can't get out)
I was told that I was very unlikely to respond to the drugs (my fert specialist has the tact & personality of a wet fish lol) well I certainly showed him by responding quite well & had 10 eggs retrieved 😄 of the 10 eggs 8 were suitable to inject with sperm. We then got called to say 5 had fertilised yay us the next day they called & 6 eggs had divided nicely. Turns out 1 was slow to start lol by the time we were due to have the embryo replaced that late starter was the best emby & he is now our amazing 5 month old boy 😄😄😄 out of the last 5 embys 1 was suitable to freeze & we hope 2 use that early next year 😊

All n all the process was amazing & scary but so worth it, sing out if u have any questions 😄 all the best


Posted By: eclaire222
Date Posted: 04 September 2014 at 1:11pm
Hi Cruzychic

Hop onto ttc for 12 months + forum. There are more of us there. I am currently undergoing my IVF with ICSI treatment now.

While you're trying to get your BMI down you could look at exploring Chinese medicine or naturopaths to try and get your husbands sperm up. You might be lucky enough to concieve naturally. Best of luck!


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TTC 18months +
Me&hub: mid 30's
Male infertility
IVF with ICSI 1st cycle starting August (private)


Posted By: vepr
Date Posted: 14 October 2014 at 2:38pm
Hi
we are with fertility associates hamilton. we did our IVF ICSI this feb and i had developed ovarian hyperstimulation so they didnt perform any fresh embryo transfer. I already did 3 FET(natural cycle) with no success. Have got 2 more frozen embryo is there anyone who did FET in their natural cycle?

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TTC#1 since 2009
Me:28 Dh:35
unexplained Infertility


Posted By: FC
Date Posted: 14 October 2014 at 4:55pm
Hey Vepr,
I have ivf with icsi via FA Greenlane.
I had a fresh transfer (unsuccessful) and a natural FET which took - currently just over 6 weeks.

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TTC since Jan 2012
FA since Jul 2013
Lap/Hyst/HSG Dec 2013
2 x Monitored Clomid Jan / Feb 14
IVF with icsi Jul 14 - BFN


Posted By: babycrazy
Date Posted: 14 October 2014 at 9:12pm
Hey there - I did 2 x natural FET second one was bfp but ended in miscarriage at 8 wks.

Just did second ivf cycle with icsi and will hear Thursday how many embies we may have as it's a freeze all.


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TTC since Oct 2009
4 x DI's failed
IVF1 CP & MC
IVF2 CP
IVF3 Angel baby born 22.3wks


Posted By: vepr
Date Posted: 14 October 2014 at 10:11pm
FET failed on third time.. got a slight HCG raise which started falling down and reached two.. chemical preg.. Specialist said no transfer this cycle.. asked to wait till next AF so that HCG settles down...

Asked him whether to go with IUI this cycle.. will know this thursday whether to go ahead with IUI or not.

@babycrazy -- fingers crossed for both of us on thursday
@fc - congratz


Posted By: babycrazy
Date Posted: 02 November 2014 at 7:56am
Vepr - how did you go with getting iui?
We got one embie to freeze. Unsure when transfer is but I'm hoping my next cycle. Have follow up with specialist on 14th November.

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TTC since Oct 2009
4 x DI's failed
IVF1 CP & MC
IVF2 CP
IVF3 Angel baby born 22.3wks


Posted By: vepr
Date Posted: 02 November 2014 at 10:12pm
Hi Babycrazy.. specialist agreed for an natural IUI.. did insem last friday. now in the waiting period..preg test in two weeks.. but bad thing is as usual after the transfer caught up with a severe cold...
Also when they do FET ask for a Dr. who has loads of patience. During my first two cycles the Dr. who did the transfer did place the embryo when i was having cramps. Heard from my specialist during the last transfer that if they do transfer in middle of cramps there is slight chance of rejection. This time when he did the transfer he swabbed, waited till the cramps subsided and placed the embryo. Still my bad luck it ended up in chem pregnancy. I pray for u that it will work better this time.


Posted By: babycrazy
Date Posted: 03 November 2014 at 7:46am
Good luck for your preg test vepr. Interesting what you say about the cramping. My first FET I cramped from transfer all the way to testing and that was chemical. With my second I didn't so much and that was bfp (mc later).
Maybe not do bad having a cold - lowered immunity and all that. I'm doing Colorado protocol this time and part of that focusses on suppressed immunity. But I'm no expert!

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TTC since Oct 2009
4 x DI's failed
IVF1 CP & MC
IVF2 CP
IVF3 Angel baby born 22.3wks


Posted By: UK-Kiwi
Date Posted: 20 November 2014 at 12:51pm
Hi everyone, I have been reading your posts and there is a lot of helpful information here. My husband and I are also seeing Dr. Mark Stegman at Wellington F.A. My husband is due for sperm retrieval on Monday but after that I am unsure of what happens? I am sure they will explain everything at the appointment but any advise on what happens next would be great. I have had tests and everything has come back normal it is azoospermia that has put us on this path. Good luck to everyone on this journey.


Posted By: Babyshrimp
Date Posted: 20 November 2014 at 1:02pm
Good luck with the retrieval uk kiwi 😊 my husband also has azoo & we paid for his retrieval whilst we were in the ivf wait list. They froze the sperm & from there we waited til our turn for funding came up also cuz we paid for the retrieval they managed to push us up the Wellington list a couple of months 😄 are u in the list yet?


Posted By: UK-Kiwi
Date Posted: 20 November 2014 at 1:17pm
Hi Babyshrimp. I believe we are on the list? I'm not sure to be honest? Was the retrieval very painful for your husband? When are you due for egg collection if this is what happens? Sorry for all the questions so much going on in my head


Posted By: UK-Kiwi
Date Posted: 20 November 2014 at 1:30pm
Just read your last post Babyshrimp and can see you had successful treatment, congratulations! Fertility Associates haven't really explained to much of the process or the wait times or whether I will be needing drugs to boost egg production so feeling a little in the dark. I am hoping my husbands sperm will be normal as all his other tests came back with normal readings and that it is just a blockage?


Posted By: Babyshrimp
Date Posted: 20 November 2014 at 1:45pm
From memory we got a letter confirming we were on the list we r based in palmy & @ out consult they said after azoo diagnosis we qualified & they would write to welly's to get us on the list. My husband didn't feel 2 bad after but def take the panadol as they advise 😊
We didn't wait that long about 8 months I think. They will give u drugs to get u through to egg collection the amount needed depends how well they think u will respond. Ivf is a lot of waiting & at times u feel in the dark about what's happening but once u get started it's not that bad it found it quite good so hopefully ur the same 😄
Yup out lil man is coming up 8 months & @ 1 of my appointments in palmy that doc said I was unlikely 2 respond well we showed Him & we have another frozen emby from that first cycle 😄 any questions I'm more than happy to answer as well as I can but anything else call the nurses in wellington they're amazing


Posted By: UK-Kiwi
Date Posted: 20 November 2014 at 1:54pm
Fantastic I'm glad you had a good experience. Hopefully all my questions will be answered on Monday but you have really helped thank you. Hopefully your 2nd Embryo will be just as sticky when you decide to try again. Best of luck and congratulations again :)


Posted By: Babyshrimp
Date Posted: 20 November 2014 at 2:04pm
Thanks we hope so 2 😊 good luck with Monday hopefully u get lots of healthy spermies & get ur questions answered 😊


Posted By: Babyshrimp
Date Posted: 02 December 2014 at 1:56pm
Hey uk-kiwi how did ur husbands retrieval go? Hope they got lots of healthy spermies for u guys 😄


Posted By: Stuart Little
Date Posted: 10 September 2015 at 10:26pm
Hi, we have our little guy thanks to ICSI. My whole IVF journey was printed in the Ohbaby! Magazine. Feel free to have a read. http://www.ohbaby.co.nz/conception/infertility/dear-diary-claire-stuart-part-one/
All the very best of luck to you!


Posted By: sumitasofat
Date Posted: 22 December 2015 at 9:21pm
IVF is the best treatment for male and female infertility. But ICSI has high success rate and considered as the most appropriate treatment for male infertility. I have not taken it but I have seen many results.


Posted By: pagerlvy33237502
Date Posted: 19 April 2019 at 5:33am
Agree with the last comment. I think that if choosing between icsi or ivf, one should choose the first one.
I would've gone for it if I could. But my body is not made for making babies. Being through numerous miscarriages, I have to admit, that neither ivf nor icsi would've helped. And now I am in the middle fo surrogacy program. Which is great. Honestly. I was the one who cried before flying to Kiev. As I was so scared. Yet I wanted to have kids so badly. We flew there and were met by the nicest people in the whole world. Well, maybe I am overreacting. But I genuinely felt that way. I needed someone to trust. And there they were. Our manager is the nicest girl. She is always online, although we do not bother her very often. yet she is always prompt with her replies. And it is so satisfying and calming in a way.
Btw her name is Anna. I've learned a bunch of cute Ukrainian names. We are planning to give one to our baby. If it is a girl we'll name her after the SM, if it is a boy we'll think of something. There is plenty of time. Although it does feel like time is flying. We were just signing with World Centr of Baby and now here we are celebrating our SM positive pregnancy test. How is that possible?? Magic :)
Wish you the best of luck. We all are going to make it!



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