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Topic: cycles
Posted By: sparkle
Subject: cycles
Date Posted: 22 November 2006 at 8:04pm
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Hi all, I would love some advice/thoughts on the following:
I came off the pill in June. Since then I've had 2 periods. 1st one 11 weeks after coming off the pill, then the 2nd was 9 weeks after that. It's been 6 weeks now since having my last one! I'm finding it frustrating!!!! I never had a "strong" AF anyway, normally lasting 3 days. We are TTC and don't know if or when I should test? As I don't know if or when I'm late! I don't have any real symptoms (before i had my MC I had the sorest boobs and MS, so know what to look out for) and any that I have had I think are in my head! Oh what to do!!! Thanks :) |
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 22 November 2006 at 8:23pm
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Chart!
Your ovulation is out of wack hence your irregular periods. The only way to know when and if ur ovulating and when to test is through charting 
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Posted By: sparkle
Date Posted: 22 November 2006 at 8:31pm
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I kinda knew you'd say that Jess!
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 22 November 2006 at 8:45pm
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Haha well it is kinda the easiest way to know
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Posted By: ginger
Date Posted: 23 November 2006 at 8:39am
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I'm with Jess ...charting makes things so much clearer for you, AND it makes you feel like you're actively doing something in TTC (other than BDing of course!). I charted this month myself to make sure that I was ovulating again normally after my surgery (since they mucked about with my ovaried, and flushed my tubes etc as well), and I feel much more at ease knowing for sure (it's all perfectly laid out on a chart) that everything is as it should be ------------- Cuinn Lachlan 23.1.09 - 22:00 Antonia Helene 4.8.11 - 09:41 |
Posted By: Kazzle
Date Posted: 23 November 2006 at 9:20am
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okay i have a question all be it probably a dumb one.
if you get your period on teh same day every month...ie 7th of every month...and not all months are the same lenght...how do you work out how long your cycle is? ------------- http://lilypie.com"> 
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Posted By: Travelgirl
Date Posted: 23 November 2006 at 9:31am
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I have a Q too.... is there anything I can get to do my charts where I don't need to use a computer? All I have seen is the likes of FF that is all online.
Anna |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 23 November 2006 at 9:40am
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Kazzle - hate to say it but i was the same and i wasnt ovulating. Do you know if u are? I was getting mine on the 12th of each month and it turned out i hadnt ovulated for over a year it was just my body having a period so to speak.
Travelgirl - you can draw up a chart? and do it that way It would be just as effective Temps up the side and cycle days down the bottom and just plot ur temps each day and see how that goes
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Posted By: Kazzle
Date Posted: 23 November 2006 at 10:07am
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i must be ovulting if i just had a m/c...( not being smart just kinda thinking outloud).
Hmmm how do you tell if you are ovulating? ------------- http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 23 November 2006 at 10:11am
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Im just wondering did u get a blood test for the m/c im not criticising its just if your having ovulation problems you *may* have been getting false positives on your tests or u could have had a dud batch and may have not m/c. Im sorry i didnt follow it to closely so if i missed something let me know
Im gonna sound like such a repetative person but charting is the only way you alone can find out if ur ovulating. I would also recommend ovulation predictor kits. PM for the website. Note they are american so u will need a credit card. |
Posted By: busymum
Date Posted: 23 November 2006 at 12:45pm
Kazzle I was always on the same day of every month. I called it a 30-day cycle. Not exactly, but pretty close. And I always thought I missed my period every March  lol.... But I was ovulating too, conceived first Hannah then Briona on a cycle like that. After Briona it changed to 28 day (4 week) cycles.
Sparkle, sounds like you do need to chart and I knew Jess would be on here saying that already  I'm a bit confused when you had m/c, I presume that was sometime before June this year.
The other thing you could do is contact the Doc who prescribed the pill for you, check if he thinks your "cycles" are okay or if he has any concerns. It doesn't sound worrying to me though, just frustrating. -------------  |
Posted By: Sarah Beth
Date Posted: 23 November 2006 at 12:57pm
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my cycles were all over the place, but according to chart and OPK's I was ovulating so an irregular cycle does NOT mean you aren't ovulating, just your body is out of whack for what ever reason.
I would chart and use OPK's if you can, and all the while have fun trying  ------------- "> 
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Posted By: Travelgirl
Date Posted: 23 November 2006 at 1:20pm
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Ok, So if I make my own chart, what sort of temp ranges do I need?
TIA Anna |
Posted By: ginger
Date Posted: 23 November 2006 at 1:40pm
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Heya Travelgirl ...usually when you buy a BBT thermometer they have a chart form in there that you can photocopy off ------------- Cuinn Lachlan 23.1.09 - 22:00 Antonia Helene 4.8.11 - 09:41 |
Posted By: Kazzle
Date Posted: 23 November 2006 at 4:34pm
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its okay Jess you hvnt missed anything...and no i didnt get any bloods done....but i have started bleeding to the day of my m/c so im just going to relax, and not worry about it for a while.
was just curious as to how to work out whether i was a 28 or 30 day cycle and i think i am between a 28-30 day so im happy with that. thanks for all your advice though its been a great help ------------- http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 24 November 2006 at 8:19am
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Typically according to medical terms you are supposed to take when you get your period and subtract 14 days off it to find out when you ovulated but thats on an average, i know that since having Ella my leutal phase is far from being 14days now it varies upto 16days.
The reason i say that im suspecting that your not ovulating is coz it is rare to have such a varying leutal phase and be ovulating. If u are and are still having those problems it could be low progesterone esp if your ovulating late. I would start charting and just go from there remember when in doubt see your GP. Sarah Beth - My cycles are all over the place to but i was still having the proper leutal phases (once i was ovulating) all i am saying is that her situation sounds very similar to mine and she may want to research it further esp since she TTC. The main thing people fail to realise is that you CAN get your period and NOT be ovulating. |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 24 November 2006 at 8:19am
| Travelgirl - It really depends on how low your temps go and how high they go my charts temps on the side are from about 36 degrees to 37.5 degrees. |
Posted By: ginger
Date Posted: 24 November 2006 at 9:02am
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I've been a bit fascinated by my chart this month - it's the only one I've done post-surgery, and my temps have been quite different to what they were before I had my op. They used to sit around the 36.6 mark, and go up to about 36.9 pre-period - this time around they've gone a lot lower - right down to 36.3 - and they really zoomed up after ovulation - 36.4 on the day of ovulation, and 36.8 the day after. ------------- Cuinn Lachlan 23.1.09 - 22:00 Antonia Helene 4.8.11 - 09:41 |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 24 November 2006 at 9:45am
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Awesome its amazing how different things are once the endo is removed aye?
I really hope you are successful soon ginger you totally deserve it for keeping your cool and being patient as can be in the TTC cycle
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Posted By: Paws
Date Posted: 24 November 2006 at 10:01am
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There are also a couple of people on TM who are able to sell OPK's and they are at a very good price...that's where I got mine from. I found them much easier that charting...but then charting I got nowhere with and my doctor didn't really recommend it. That's just how it went for me though. I hear lots of people do have success with it.
Good luck! ------------- http://lilypie.com"> 
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 24 November 2006 at 10:05am
| Yer alot of drs dont recommend it due to stress even my specialist didnt recommend it but at the end of the day if i wasnt charting i would have missed ovulation when i went on clomid. |
Posted By: Sarah Beth
Date Posted: 24 November 2006 at 10:09am
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Actually to back the reccomondation from Paws, OPK's. It was the only way I knew the right time, my chart was all over the place so O was not easily detected. ------------- ">
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Posted By: Paws
Date Posted: 24 November 2006 at 10:18am
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Sorry to say Jesika that it wasn't reasons for stress that Monique told me not to continue charting...she had simply not found it effective enough to recommend that I keep doing it...she felt there could be too many variables. ------------- http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: ginger
Date Posted: 24 November 2006 at 10:26am
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For myself, giving everything a go at least once is worth the effort (though in saying that, I haven't done OPKs, but that's because my charts are perfect, and I just don't think they're necessary for me) ...if it doesn't work for you, then that's ok, but what I will say is that whatever you choose to do, commit to it and do it properly for the very best results. ------------- Cuinn Lachlan 23.1.09 - 22:00 Antonia Helene 4.8.11 - 09:41 |
Posted By: Paws
Date Posted: 24 November 2006 at 10:32am
I agree!! ------------- http://lilypie.com">
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ginger wrote:Posted By: Sarah Beth
Date Posted: 24 November 2006 at 10:41am
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here here Ginger! ------------- ">
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Posted By: ginger
Date Posted: 24 November 2006 at 10:46am
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That's because I'm a genius Paws
The other thing I've found too is that you *cannot* expect your body to follow the norm, or it'll do your head in! I've been charting CM this month (TMI coming right up sorry!), and I keep reading that CM should dry up after ovulation, and mine hasn't! I ovulated on day 16 and it's now day 24 and I still have CM. You've got to remember that your body is individual, and the stats that you get touted about are averages. ------------- Cuinn Lachlan 23.1.09 - 22:00 Antonia Helene 4.8.11 - 09:41 |
Posted By: Sarah Beth
Date Posted: 24 November 2006 at 11:00am
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is that normal for you Ginger? I only ask as I only had 1 month where mine kept coming... ------------- ">
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Posted By: Paws
Date Posted: 24 November 2006 at 11:12am
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I read the same thing too but it was never true in my case either! (so don't worry you're not alone on that one ) ------------- http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: ginger
Date Posted: 24 November 2006 at 11:46am
I've only just started taking note of CM, so I'm not sure what is normal for me - I've never paid much attention before. I've been feeling a bit off for a few days, so it could just be that I'm coming down with something - my nose has been feeling like it's running for the last couple of days, and my throat feels a little mucusy too. All I can say is - I have NO period symptoms AT ALL  (bless whoever up there decided to give me a month off the torture of period build up!) and for that alone I will be grateful forever ...but IF by ANY chance I get a cold BEFORE the U2 concert on Saturday ...I will hunt whoever is responsible down and kill them!!   ------------- Cuinn Lachlan 23.1.09 - 22:00 Antonia Helene 4.8.11 - 09:41 |
Posted By: Sarah Beth
Date Posted: 24 November 2006 at 12:10pm
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actually just a thought, perhaps the herbs are doing their thing, and also if you are on the robitussun that would do it too. ------------- ">
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Posted By: ginger
Date Posted: 24 November 2006 at 12:47pm
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I'm not taking robitussin or herbs - we stopped everything, except I decided to keep temping so I had a complete chart for this cycle. I found that while taking the herbs, I wasn't able to sleep - they wound my nervous system right up. Within 2 days of stopping the herbs, I was back to normal and sleeping a lot better. You need sleep to heal, and I figure that sleep is more important! As for the robitussin - I tried it twice and it really made me cough and feel quite sick, so I didn't do that again. ------------- Cuinn Lachlan 23.1.09 - 22:00 Antonia Helene 4.8.11 - 09:41 |
Posted By: Sarah Beth
Date Posted: 24 November 2006 at 12:59pm
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well that is my theory out the window!
Perhaps you are just a ... person. And as paws said, what is the "norm" is not normal for everyone. ------------- ">
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Posted By: ginger
Date Posted: 24 November 2006 at 1:09pm
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Actually, I said it myself if you have a look up the posts - I just raised the CM thing to illustrate my point ------------- Cuinn Lachlan 23.1.09 - 22:00 Antonia Helene 4.8.11 - 09:41 |
Posted By: Sarah Beth
Date Posted: 24 November 2006 at 2:00pm
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ignore me perhaps, brain no function! ------------- ">
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 25 November 2006 at 3:21pm
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I get excess CM aswell after ovulation more so since i have had ella. And i also had plenty of CM the month i was on clomid.
Paws - Well its not for everyone. It does more so benefit people who have fertility issues more so i tend to think and at the end of the day its upto you if you want to do it not a medical professional coz its not screwing with your system. All fair if ur anti charting but it doesnt mean to say that it wont work wonders for others. I just know im my experience i havent seen one person who knew how to do it properly have problems. |
Posted By: miss
Date Posted: 25 November 2006 at 3:48pm
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^^ I agree with Jezsika - I charted the month before trying, and the month of trying. Without charting I would have missed OV completely as the OPK never gave me a strong reading and I OVed day 20. And we were extremely lucky with getting pregnant straight away, but we would have been very unlikely to without charting (even with an estimate of 32 day cycle length would have mean potentially stopping too soon).
I also wasn't a very well behaved charter - different times of the mrning (anwhere from 6 - 7.30), but I found with a bit of experimenting that my temps fluctuated by only up to .1(from a 3.am loo stop to a 7 am wake up) usually so I was ok with that as a risk - the trends were still noticeable. That said I have friends who have charted and not got pregnant, but they have had other things discovered as a problem too. -------------  
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 25 November 2006 at 5:02pm
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Yer i had no idea before having my endo removed that i hadnt ovulated or that i had PCOS i had never heard of charting i cant even remember how i found out about it but i am glad i did.
I come on here offering answers and advice based on my own experiences and without sounding to much like a bitch i get really F**ked off when people try and contradict my OWN experiences. Like i have said before i am here for advice based on what i know and what i have experienced and in return i expect that i wont be TOLD how to do things when i did it for a heck of a lot longer than some people. Granted i didnt do it for as long as others but i was so religious and determined about it that i learnt all i could know about charting and in return am willing to take time aside and help others if they ask. Fair enough if ur dr said that you SHOULDNT chart but at the end of the day i ignored my specialist by my own decisions and im glad i did. I ended up ovulating 10 DAYS EARLIER and i would not have known that purely from sitting around and waiting. ONCE AGAIN this is in my own personal experience. If you want to follow your specialist or drs advice and not chart thats all good im not one to contradict that coz at the end of the day its your decision. The last thing i will say is that MOST women have a higher rate of success conceiving when they KNOW their cycles by charting not just Assuming. And even then if they dont conceive they can sometimes pin point that something maybe wrong and can bring it up with their drs. From now on since i am a little sick of people basically making out i dont know what i am talking about if you want advice on charting, where to get good cheap tests for OPKS and HPTs them PM me i am always willing to offer advice but i am SICK and TIRED of being somewhat slammed here for helping. End of story. |
Posted By: busymum
Date Posted: 25 November 2006 at 5:44pm
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Jess you are right when you say that most women have better success when charting, but it is not always the way to go for everyone... I'm sure this is all Paws was trying to say (that's how it came across to me). All of us here are just trying to speak from our own experience to offer different opinions and advice, it's not mean to "write off" anything you have advised but we all come from different experiences. You've put some good things here, at the end of the day it comes to people (eg Sparkle in this case) weigh up everyone's little points and make their own decision. ------------- |
Posted By: sparkle
Date Posted: 25 November 2006 at 6:02pm
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Thanks for all the thoughts and advice ladies. This is why I love this site as it gives me lots to go on!
Well I gave in to my frustrations yesterday and tested, BFN! I think we'll continue BDing for a while more and maybe start charting in the new year. |
Posted By: jax
Date Posted: 25 November 2006 at 6:08pm
Jess - I don't think their intent was to "slam" you at all. It's great that you want to offer help based on your own experiences, and I think you've taken the right path now in asking that people PM you for any information they need. You *and* everyone else that has contributed to this thread are right, you have all come to what is ultimately the most important point - we are *all* different. Period. Haha ! Sorry, couldn't resist  Personally, I find the word "normal" completely redundant. ------------- Jacquie - Mama to Erin, 13.07.06 - Chief Cat Chaser & Marmite Sammie Eater 
Love many, trust few, harm none. ~Anon~ |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 26 November 2006 at 10:14am
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Yer i wasnt aiming it at anyone i just get frustrated when people can take things for granted i saw my hubby being taken for a ride when i met him and being an honest and upfront person i told him what he couldnt see.
I just offer what is asked you can choose to take it or leave it coz its totally upto the person involved. Normal is far from my vocab i think lol i look back and dont think i am normal
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Posted By: baalamb
Date Posted: 26 November 2006 at 10:39am
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No you're not hahaha
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 26 November 2006 at 10:39am
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Heeeeyyy shaddup yew
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Posted By: Paws
Date Posted: 26 November 2006 at 11:23am
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Hey Jesika, I'm sorry if you thought I was "slamming" you in anyway but I wasn't...I was simply giving another point of view. I'm fully aware that many people have success charting but I'm just saying it doesn't work for everyone. In our case our fertility issue doesn't lie with me remember so apart from the fact I had no success with charting it wouldn't have made a difference in our case. It came down to pure luck...nothing else...I hadn't even used the OPK's that month!
You do have a lot of experience charting which is awesome and great to share but if people are wanting advice or feedback I think it is fair enough that they do get to hear both sides if there are people who haven't had success with it. It's all about getting full information...nothing more. ------------- http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 26 November 2006 at 11:50am
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Thats ok paws im sorry if i came across rude to you i think my period is due and i feel real antsy lol i did wander away and went out with mum before i wrote something coz i know how i can get
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Posted By: busymum
Date Posted: 27 November 2006 at 4:01pm
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Hey Jess that's okay, at least you have a lot of support here for pre-period ickiness ------------- |