IUD Question?
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Topic: IUD Question?
Posted By: 11111
Subject: IUD Question?
Date Posted: 25 November 2006 at 11:18am
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Ok just know how much they are and does it hurt I have been on the pill for about a month and it is maaking me sick. My lovely m/w called in for a visit yesterday and suggested an IUD. So any one know much about them? ------------- Deborah Mum to:   
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Posted By: Peace
Date Posted: 25 November 2006 at 11:45am
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Hey Deb, my friend had one to reduce pain and stop pregnancy for her endo. She never complains about it at all. It is like a metal T that is inserted into your womb and it stops the absorbtion of pregnancy. It also releases small amounts of progesterone as well (to stop pregnancy). She has hers in for 5 years then it is removed/changed. I don't know if it changes from person to person for how long you keep them in but I understand it is a long term thing.
All the best! ------------- DD1 May 2006 DD2 March 2011 DD3 August 2012 |
Posted By: Peace
Date Posted: 25 November 2006 at 11:49am
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p.s this is second hand knowledge, someone correct me if I'm wrong! ------------- DD1 May 2006 DD2 March 2011 DD3 August 2012 |
Posted By: Sarah Beth
Date Posted: 25 November 2006 at 12:39pm
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the one with proestrogen in it is called a Merina and is more expensive than an IUD. I think the merina is around$300, but if you consider how much you sepnd on the pill it can work out depending on which pill you are on.
My SIL had it and said it was never a problem, she sometimes got pain when it would fall against the back wall of her uterus but that was it. It also makes periods lighter due to the proestrogen. The standard IUD is drug free ------------- "> 
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Posted By: mummy_becks
Date Posted: 25 November 2006 at 1:06pm
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I am having a mirena put in after I have this child. Mine is more for the problems I have had with endo. To qualify for the mirena at no charge your iron levels need to be very low. Cost is about $300 and then you may be charged an fee to have it put in. Not all dr's can put it in, I know in Palmy only gyno's can put it in. It lasts 5 years (and from memory you want more children soon so may not be an option for you just yet if you have to pay the full price for it) but can be taken out at any stage. Goggle Mirena with a NZ search and it'll come up. There is one website that has a list of people all over NZ that can get it and put it in you. ------------- I was a puree feeder, forward facing, cot sleeping, pram pushing kind of Mum... and my kids survived! |
Posted By: caraMel
Date Posted: 25 November 2006 at 3:47pm
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Hi Deb,
As you know I had the Mirena put in a week ago. I did it through family planning as they were the cheapest option here and all up it cost $455. (thats including the preliminary swabs they have to do) It lasts for 5-7 years though and I worked out the costs of pill plus period supplies for that time and Mirena is about half the cost of that! It was only painful for me for a couple of days afterwards. Just mild period like cramps. The actual insertion was uncomfortable like a smear with a couple of stingy moments as they put it in place. I had minimal bleeding afterwards for a day, and a week later have just got a light period. (no cramps or anything with it!) The initial side effects you can get are similar to those you would get with the minipill (same hormone) and usually only last for the first 3 months. I'm really happy with my decision, as I don't plan to have more children in the next 5 years. Hope this helps! ------------- Mel, Mummy to E: 6, B: 4 and: 
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Posted By: Maya
Date Posted: 25 November 2006 at 3:50pm
I'm seriously thinking about getting the Mirena put in when I am in Oz at Christmas. It's way cheaper over there, and probably the only method of contraception that is going to be reliable for us given that Willie has a real aversion to condoms, and I don't have the greatest track history with the Pill (hmmmm, that's how we got Maya  ) other than abstinence, and that worked for us for a while but has got a bit old. -------------  Maya Grace (28/02/03)
 (02/01/06)
The Gremlins:Sienna Marie & Mercedes Kailah (14/10/06)
Lil miss:Chiara Louise Chloe (09/07/08)
Her ladyship:Rosalia Sophie Anais (18/06/12)
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Posted By: ellabellame
Date Posted: 25 November 2006 at 5:19pm
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i had a normal IUD put in, not a mirena.
i had a bit of cramping for a little while after and a bit of bleeding but it was just like a light period pain, not too bad at all. ------------- |
Posted By: mum2emj
Date Posted: 25 November 2006 at 7:43pm
| my midwife recommended the mirena to me when she was discussing options, as opposed to hubby getting the chop. i looked into it a bit, but decided against it so for now its just icky condoms. |
Posted By: busymum
Date Posted: 25 November 2006 at 9:21pm
lol I don't like condoms either Rachel  ------------- |
Posted By: EllenMumof2
Date Posted: 25 November 2006 at 9:28pm
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we are condoms here to and i hate them just doesn't feel right but it has to be done as i have so much trouble with the pill and blow up like a sumo with the jab as we want one more condoms will have to do for now but i want them to tie my tubes after the next one if they won't i will look into a IUD http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: nikkitheknitter
Date Posted: 25 November 2006 at 9:33pm
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The normal IUD is a plastic T shaped thing with a copper coil around the vertical bit. That repels the spermy things from getting past it.
One of my friends has the IUD and she said apart from a bit of discomfort and pain when it was being put in, she has no problems at all! Raves about it. I do know that Toni (the Matamata version) has had problems with the IUD. If she is on here maybe she'll elaborate or I can go back and find the post...? |
Posted By: 11111
Date Posted: 25 November 2006 at 9:56pm
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Hey cool thank's ladies I want the normal IUD without the hormone as that is what the problem is with the pill. Anyway will look into it further thank's guy's. ------------- Deborah Mum to:
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Posted By: 11111
Date Posted: 25 November 2006 at 9:57pm
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ellabellame how much did it cost? I was told the normal one is load's cheaper. ------------- Deborah Mum to:
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Posted By: nikkitheknitter
Date Posted: 25 November 2006 at 10:01pm
| Yep... the govt subsidises it, so I think it's around $25 (but don't quote me on that!) - definitely not a large amount anyway. |
Posted By: 11111
Date Posted: 25 November 2006 at 10:06pm
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cool thnaks Nikki
------------- Deborah Mum to:
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Posted By: nikkitheknitter
Date Posted: 26 November 2006 at 9:19am
Deb - I think with a midwife referral it might be free. 
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Posted By: 11111
Date Posted: 26 November 2006 at 11:31am
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oh might have to look into that my m/w would do one for me. ------------- Deborah Mum to:
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Posted By: AnnC
Date Posted: 26 November 2006 at 1:02pm
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I got the normal IUD in and it didn't hurt and was the cost of a dr visit - problems started after that I ended up in hospital because of it and had a bad reaction to it even though it was in right place and no hassles getting it in. I have been told by my dr and the hospital Never to have one again as my body rejects it for some reason. I guess my option (not that I am thinking of having sex for a very long time LOL) is the pill or dep o (which I haven't been on that so might give it a go some time) I did think about telling the DR when he did the ceasar to tie my tube (I only have one) while he was in there but dunno if I am ready for that yet, I mean Rhyley is my last but.... I dunno thats so final.
------------- Ann 
Also Mum to Josh (15) and Brooke (10) |
Posted By: jax
Date Posted: 26 November 2006 at 2:44pm
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Ack ! Depo is the devil *ahem* Sorry, I know it works well for some, but I wouln't ever touch it again with a ten foot pole. It made me put on a lot of weight, and after I stopped getting the shots, it took over a year for my period to come back and then it was all out of whack. I'm personally against an IUD (the normal one), and not sure about the Mirena (cost / chemical wise), and DH doesn't like condoms, so we're stuck between a rock and a hard place. (No pun intended !!!!!!!!!) ------------- Jacquie - Mama to Erin, 13.07.06 - Chief Cat Chaser & Marmite Sammie Eater 
Love many, trust few, harm none. ~Anon~ |
Posted By: mum2emj
Date Posted: 26 November 2006 at 2:56pm
| lol jax! yeah the whole issue of contraception is a tricky one. im like you jax, and i will never go on the on the pill, and im ot keen on any other thing that has to go in me or anything, and condoms like i said earlier are icky! as soon as its time to get oneon its like ew, and the mood sort of drains from me. hubby hates them too. |
Posted By: CuriousG
Date Posted: 26 November 2006 at 7:51pm
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I have had both, a normal IUD and a Mirena. Great concept but I had the heaviest bleeding of my life with the IUD (like overflowing a maxi tampon every hour) and with the Mirena, I had very very bad headaches (which was caused by the progesterone).
If it was a choice though, go for the cheaper option for a start and see how you get on. That way, if its all bad, you can have it removed without thinking "wow, that was $300 wasted" like I did.  ------------- http://lilypie.com"> 
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Posted By: 11111
Date Posted: 26 November 2006 at 9:52pm
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Jax can I ask why you are againgst it? IF you don't want to say that is fine I am just really trying to explore all my option's. You can PM me if you want. ------------- Deborah Mum to:
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Posted By: jax
Date Posted: 27 November 2006 at 12:14am
It's ok, I don't mind explaining - I'll try to keep it as simple as I can though. The regular IUD prevents a pregnancy from implanting in the uterus and therefore the embryo cannot survive and you then shed the lining of your uterus (and have a period) as per "normal". My personal feeling is that there is 'life' from conception onwards, and I couldn't bring myself to interfere with that. I know that the pill and depo etc interferes with the conception process too, but it does so in a different way - that said, as I mentioned before I am trying to avoid having *anything* in my body that I don't need, including the pill, Mirena, Depo etc  Hope this answers your question Deb. I've added you to MSN by the way, so if you see me online feel free to give me a buzz whenever you like. ------------- Jacquie - Mama to Erin, 13.07.06 - Chief Cat Chaser & Marmite Sammie Eater
Love many, trust few, harm none. ~Anon~ |
Posted By: 11111
Date Posted: 27 November 2006 at 9:20am
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Thank's Jax I am in the same mind about that sort of thing will look into it further. I really think I will asking for Jess's expert help on charting I am so stoping the pill. ------------- Deborah Mum to:
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Posted By: caraMel
Date Posted: 27 November 2006 at 10:10am
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I asked my doctor about how the copper IUD worked when she suggested it to me as an option, as I had heard the same as Jax. She told me that new research has proved that that is untrue and gave me a booklet that explained what they know now, that the IUD creates an environment that is toxic to sperm.
I also found this on the web, similar to what is in the booklet so I don't need to type it all out! : "At first, we thought the IUD worked by preventing implantation of a fertilized egg, but that turned out not to be true. It makes sense to think that the IUD would work that way, but research has shown that the egg is in fact never fertilized if a woman is wearing an IUD. Some women have shied away from this form of protection because preventing implantation of a viable fertilized egg could be seen as a form of abortion. But that concern is not valid since the egg is not fertilized (every month you destroy an unfertilized egg through menstruation, after all!) So what do we think is going on? The best theory right now is that the IUD works by inducing a low-grade infection or at least some irritation in the uterus, the by-products of which are toxic to sperm. Research shows that women wearing IUD's are producing cells and proteins and other substances in their uteruses which attack the cell walls of sperm, thus preventing fertilization. The inflammation supposedly persists only as long as you have the IUD in place, although some women seem not to recover from it." I hope that is helpful in some way! ------------- Mel, Mummy to E: 6, B: 4 and:
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Posted By: nikkitheknitter
Date Posted: 27 November 2006 at 1:13pm
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I have read the same thing as Mel... though it was put in a tamer way in one of the pamphlets. As far as I remember, it did say there was a small possibility of the sperm making it through and therefore a chance of a fertilised egg getting through, and that's where the IUD also works by preventing implantation.
I might go and do a bit more research on this as while it is a valid concern about "abortion" or feelings towards fertilisation of eggs... I think it is necessary to be clear about the process so that if there is an issue with something like this, then one can make an informed decision. (Not necessarily you Deb, I've just heard some young teen mums talking about the IUD like this and I am concerned that they'd forgo contraception because of something like this and then end up with an unwanted pregnancy.) |
Posted By: nikkitheknitter
Date Posted: 27 November 2006 at 1:30pm
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Right... found a few articles which attest that the incidence of an egg being fertilised is very very rare.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=3817172&dopt=Abstract - http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=3817172&dopt=Abstract - This is just the abstract for the study http://www.fhi.org/en/RH/Pubs/booksReports/methodaction.htm - http://www.fhi.org/en/RH/Pubs/booksReports/methodaction.htm - Article about a few different types of contraception. Scroll down to find IUD section. http://www.fhi.org/en/RH/Pubs/Network/v16_2/nt1623.htm - http://www.fhi.org/en/RH/Pubs/Network/v16_2/nt1623.htm - Article titled "IUDs block fertilisation" Now to go and find some sites which claim the other side. Note: Only will go for scientific studies here as I know the anti-abortion camp has jumped on this issue. |
Posted By: jax
Date Posted: 27 November 2006 at 1:41pm
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*sigh* Ok, nevermind then... ------------- Jacquie - Mama to Erin, 13.07.06 - Chief Cat Chaser & Marmite Sammie Eater
Love many, trust few, harm none. ~Anon~ |
Posted By: nikkitheknitter
Date Posted: 27 November 2006 at 1:49pm
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But you get why I am concerned right...? I can't quote exactly... but I remember another teen mum saying "I would never use the IUD because my mum said it's like having an abortion"
This is a study which says there are post-fertilisation effects when using an IUD, but I can't get to the actual study (without $$$) and it doesn't include figures in the abstract. http://www.medscape.com/medline/abstract/12501086 - http://www.medscape.com/medline/abstract/12501086 |
Posted By: 11111
Date Posted: 27 November 2006 at 5:05pm
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thanks Nikkie saves me alot of time I was going to googgle it now you have done that for me it heap's easier.
Hey thanks for all the help and advice you guy's are awsome. ------------- Deborah Mum to:
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Posted By: 11111
Date Posted: 02 December 2006 at 10:34pm
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Well thank's for all the help ladies. Hubby and I have discussed it all at length and we have decided to try Natural family planning for now see how that goes for us. The reality is if we get pregnant it would not be the end of the world. I just don't feel comfortable with the idea of anything else at this stage well except condom's.
Thank's again for all the advice and suppot on htis one it is areally complcated issue. ------------- Deborah Mum to:
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Posted By: Jennz
Date Posted: 03 December 2006 at 2:45am
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Glad you've come to a decision you're happy with Its been a really informative thread actually- I knew nothing about the IUD so its good to find out what its all about. I'm a Natural fertility girl too so we'll just be using that until DH gets the snip in a few years time- good to see there are so many options out there though. ------------- Jen, Charlotte 7 & Kate 3 
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Posted By: busymum
Date Posted: 03 December 2006 at 9:38am
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Hope it goes well Deb! ------------- |
Posted By: Rachael21
Date Posted: 07 December 2006 at 4:04pm
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I think I will go for an IUD for after this bub as my natural planning attempt didn't work too well. I think I will go with the Mirena one. Do you still get a normal period with the normal IUD?
I get what your saying Jax about not having anything you don't need in your body, I just can't trust that all these homones aren't doing any damage. |
Posted By: Tastic
Date Posted: 07 December 2006 at 8:27pm
| I was speaking to my doctor on Monday and asked her about getting an iud and she said because I'm up at the hospital every day that I should talk to the social worker and see if she can talk to someone in the gyno ward about putting one in, Well I talked to my midwife about it today and because I usually suffer from really heavy periods she is going to refer me to the hospital for a IUCD or ICUD (cant remember which it is) and that involves swabs first then I have to go back in to get it inserted, the difference between this one and the normal one is it produces more progesterone in hope to 'lighten' my periods and make them less painfull |