Breast Feeding in shops
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Topic: Breast Feeding in shops
Posted By: kebakat
Subject: Breast Feeding in shops
Date Posted: 28 November 2006 at 8:00pm
Today during my lunch hour I was walking around the shops in palmy as I always do since most of the time I have lunch alone and it kills time..
So I'm in one of the shops and this lady is walking around holding a baby and im like aww cute then she turned a bit and she was breast feeding her baby while walking around browsing in the shop! anyone who looked at her was totally shocked and I must admit I was too!!
I don't mind breast feeding in "public places" but I think that's a bit too public! what if her baby had decided it had had enough, she gonna fix up her bra and top flashing her boob off to everyone in the shop??
Would anyone here shop while breast feeding????
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Posted By: jack_&_charli
Date Posted: 28 November 2006 at 8:09pm
ummmm no i don't think i would shop WHILE breastfeeding...charli is too heavy!! how weird! hehehe she must've really been enjoying her shopping so much she couldn't stop to have a sit down and feed bubs
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Posted By: Bombshell
Date Posted: 28 November 2006 at 8:16pm
I wouldnt think that is overly relaxing for mum or bubs? But in some countries the babies are in wrap arounds and boobs are loose underneath so bubs can suckle whenever they want...maybe she was taking a leaf out of that book?
AS long as baby is cared for I dont mind...but would be interesting to see what some shop assistants etc thought and if they would be brave enough to say anything to her?
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Posted By: kebakat
Date Posted: 28 November 2006 at 8:19pm
The shop assistant was watching the lady constantly and had the most concerned look on her face. I think she wanted to say something but wasn't brave enough
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Posted By: nikkitheknitter
Date Posted: 28 November 2006 at 8:26pm
I've seen a few ladies do that in big department stores. I don't mind it really... each to their own. I've seen plenty of boobs in my time!! But it still did suprise me a bit... and I wouldn't personally do it!
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Posted By: james
Date Posted: 28 November 2006 at 8:30pm
i would,nt do it myself james was far too heavy but if they want to then as long as bubs is heathy and happy then why not
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Posted By: Andie
Date Posted: 28 November 2006 at 8:56pm
He he he... wonder if that was the same lady I saw breastfeeding while walking around a shop in Palmy?
Kinda OT, but the mother's room in The Plaza here has a chair with high arms, only chair in the room (in fact, only place you could possibly sit in the room) - but it's too narrow to fit even my under 2-mth old baby across!!! How whacked is that? A chair you can't breastfeed in in the mother's room, with no other options of anywhere to sit?!? So if anyone sees a lady discreetly feeding in Starbucks instead, that'll probably be me!
------------- Andie
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Posted By: AnnC
Date Posted: 28 November 2006 at 9:12pm
It wouldn't bother me seeing someone do it - personally wouldn't do it myself (especially cause Rhyley takes time to latch on) but as someone said each to their own and if they are comfortable with it so be it. Its funny but I don't care - at home - if I am hanging loose - they don't feel like a boob they are a milk machine....
------------- Ann
Also Mum to Josh (15) and Brooke (10)
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Posted By: my2angels
Date Posted: 28 November 2006 at 9:19pm
I think i would be a bit shocked, not offended or anything but shocked. I mean people go on about the whole bonding thing that only breastfeeding can give (utter cr*p in my opinion but anyway) how can you bond with baby while feeding and looking at clothes or whatever. shouldnt you be gazing lovingly into your babies eyes blah blah blah
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Posted By: nikkitheknitter
Date Posted: 28 November 2006 at 9:21pm
lol Robyn Love it!
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Posted By: busymum
Date Posted: 28 November 2006 at 9:54pm
Well..... I've done it but I know you didn't see me today I'm sure I never feed and walked around with Hannah (except at home - the spuds just NEEDED to be turned down etc). But when I was out with colicky-Briona and going-to-be-tired-soon-20-month-old-Hannah it was about the only thing I could do. Bria was in a baby pack so I was able to keep discreet and she was so little that she was gonna cry until she got fed anyway and wasn't at the pop-off stage yet. But also the places she needed feeding (Warehouse, supermarket) had no seating so it was stand up or walk around... or leave the shop to go to the car and come back
I agree its kinda weird, but in the really young days with Briona I felt I hardly had a choice. So I just got on with it lol
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Posted By: nikkitheknitter
Date Posted: 28 November 2006 at 10:02pm
Fair enough!
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Posted By: my2angels
Date Posted: 28 November 2006 at 10:06pm
Its funny but i dont even walk around and bottle feed Addison, and didnt with kobe either. I do at home if the phone rings or whatever but I feel funny doing it in a shop,would not even think to really not sure why but it just doesnt feel right (and not saying its a bad thing to anyone who does it, I just feel funny about doing it)
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Posted By: mum2paris
Date Posted: 28 November 2006 at 11:31pm
Andie - i know it's far away , but the mums room in downtown is soo much better, as is the one in the ladies rest rooms in the square.. they even have nice big comfy couches.. i avoid the plaza one like the plague. lol
------------- Janine and her 2 cool chicks, Paris & Ayja
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Posted By: kezplanet
Date Posted: 29 November 2006 at 12:37am
I have done this when Anastasia was only a few weeks old, couldnt do it now as we only use football hold, which btw makes it really hard to feed in most of the parents rooms at malls. Anyway I was at the stage that I had to get out of the house, also needed some shopping so dragged Karl and Ashlyn with me to Rolleston NW, baby woke just as we started so went back to the shop enterance and proceeded to feed then got started on the shopping, we got just over 1/2 way thru and she started up again, well I wasn't going back out of the shop, I had a c-section and mild infection so by this time was getting tired and wanted to get it all over and done with ... tried to settle baby to no avail so popped her under my arm and off we went .....yes we did get some unusual looks but it had to be done. Funny thing was, I was telling my MW how I had got out over the weekend and what had happened and she lets out this roar of laughter and said to me "so that was you, good on you" one of her other ladies had seen what I was doing and had inspired her to do the same!! Also did the same at Pak n save Hornby and got stopped by a couple of ladies congratulating me on being able to multi task. Sometimes these things just have to be done and I would do the same again! BTW - I wear oversize t-shirts and tops so very little chance of anyone seeing anything they shouldn't and if they do they are looking too hard hehehe
------------- Kerryn, Mum to
Ashlyn(29/3/04), Anastasia(1/11/05) & Abigail (24/02/09)
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Posted By: Jennz
Date Posted: 29 November 2006 at 2:49am
Hehe I am really pro-breastfeeding in public so when I see stuff like that I feel like going up and saying "good for you!". I never do though, because that would be weird. I don't think it would be physically possible for me to feed that way- I had to be sitting in the right kind of chair, with a feeding pillow in a certain position before I could get Charlotte to latch on. I never fed in public because I was never able to! I used to feel so envious of people who could just get it out and sit in a cafe or something as I could only ever feed in mothers rooms and even then in was a nightmare getting her to feed properly. Hopefully this one will be easier.
I found that once I went through childbirth I had very little shame or dignity left- a whole room of people had seen my lady bits so the thought of others seeing my breasts is just no big deal!
------------- Jen, Charlotte 7 & Kate 3
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Posted By: my2angels
Date Posted: 29 November 2006 at 7:51am
Lots of people say that aye but I was the opposite, I felt like after I had had to expose myself to so many random people I just wanted a little bit of dignity back and would be super prudish for a while straight after the birth.
Maybe I should try it next time Addison starts going to town halfway through shopping (not b/f thats is, could be a bit hard for me now hehe) would certainly save time.
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Posted By: ellabellame
Date Posted: 29 November 2006 at 8:03am
i personally wouldn't do it but my mum (who is very pro breastfeeing in public) says that's because i'm still a bit young and self conscious. but i definitely have no problem with other women doing it, more power to them i say. if bubs needs to be fed then they need to be fed. if i was going to do it though, i think i would prefer to sit down rather than walk around trying to hold the baby in place, just sounds too hard for my liking.....but i do see that sometimes there just isn't that option.
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Posted By: AlyAyde
Date Posted: 29 November 2006 at 8:40am
I personally wouldnt as my boobs are too big and baby would be somewhere around my belly button if i did it. But i actually think its GREAT that she was and empowering for other women. I mean would you have taken offence if she was walking around the shops feeding her baby with a bottle. Obviously the baby and mum were comfy feeding this way as baby would not have been latched if he wasnt. So good on her. just my personal opinion.
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Posted By: newmum
Date Posted: 29 November 2006 at 8:43am
I agree with you Maria. I don't think there is anything weird about it either! YAY!!! It just helps normailise the whole thing so it isn't as awkward for us other mums to b/f in public (even if it's just sitting in a cafe and not necesaarily walking around shopping!)
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Posted By: Paws
Date Posted: 29 November 2006 at 8:49am
My intital reaction is to be a little shocked but then I figure...good on her...if she and baby are comfortable doing it. In the end it is something totally natural and hey, who hasn't walked around in public having a bite to eat....the only difference is the packaging!
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Posted By: Roksana
Date Posted: 29 November 2006 at 9:31am
ok ...hmm....I have no problem with other people b/f in public. I wouldnt do it...as I would not like to expose my boobs to others....but I must admit....walking around browsing fro cloths is a bit weird!!
If I saw it, I would look twice but would not think any think of it. I think it would be much more comfy if she sat down tho....
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Posted By: my2angels
Date Posted: 29 November 2006 at 9:43am
I could be wrong here but i dont think the issue was b/fding in public, more that the lady was multi tasking and feeding while shopping which is something you dont often see and any comments Ive made are on that rather than if its ok to b/f in public (trying to avoid the old breast feeding in public debate here )
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Posted By: mummy_becks
Date Posted: 29 November 2006 at 9:54am
I think I have seen that lady around town as well and thought weird. Nothing against feeding in public I so agree with it baby needs feeding it should be feed. We eat in public when we are hungry. But flashing her boob to the world in a shop not so nice, she could of turned around from the public to do it.
Andie the room in Downtown is so much nicer they even have a little size toilet for little bottoms like my monsters.
------------- I was a puree feeder, forward facing, cot sleeping, pram pushing kind of Mum... and my kids survived!
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Posted By: kezplanet
Date Posted: 29 November 2006 at 10:14am
Its all very well for others to speculate how comfortable it is or isn't but while tazzy was small it was eaiser and more comfortable to tuck her under my arm and able to support her head with my hand I still had a hand free for other things, also standing was more comfy with infection and let wound breath more. If I had to feed while I was out I needed a pillow so I wasnt bending over, also needed room at side of me to put baby on WOW what a preformance, this way was much eaiser and being able to shop at the same time was just a bonus!
------------- Kerryn, Mum to
Ashlyn(29/3/04), Anastasia(1/11/05) & Abigail (24/02/09)
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Posted By: lizzle
Date Posted: 29 November 2006 at 1:47pm
personally i wouldn't, but then i don't like the idea of walking and eating at the same time - Japanese culture must have rubbed off on me. qwouldn't it cause hiccups?
Must agree that the Palmy baby toilets are atrocious!
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Posted By: linda
Date Posted: 29 November 2006 at 7:49pm
Personally I'm not into breastfeeding in public. I work in an office and have had mothers feed there babies while consulting with them and find it can be a bit off putting sometimes especially if its a two year old. I just think that there is a time and a place for breastfeeding babies and its not at my desk.
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Posted By: AlyAyde
Date Posted: 29 November 2006 at 9:52pm
you know the last time that this debate was had i bit my tounge a bit. But i must be tired and grumpy tonight. This has already been debated once and really i cant see why. It should be a mothers own choice where and how she feeds a baby and if you have a problem with it then thats it, its YOUR problem.
Okay thats it vent over
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Posted By: my2angels
Date Posted: 29 November 2006 at 9:57pm
ooohhhh really biting my tongue here..... not going to get into this debate......tongue is just about bitten off....better not look at this thread anymore or wont be able to help myself
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Posted By: kezplanet
Date Posted: 29 November 2006 at 10:16pm
Some of us are only new here and don't know whats already been on, but I guess this topic will always be a hot one no matter how many times is gets bought up. Its a very personal thing and everyone is entitled to do what is best for them and their babies.
------------- Kerryn, Mum to
Ashlyn(29/3/04), Anastasia(1/11/05) & Abigail (24/02/09)
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Posted By: Bombshell
Date Posted: 29 November 2006 at 10:32pm
i dont think this a breast feeding in public thing for this thread so much as a would you walk around feeding that arose from seeing someone who did. And I agree - there are some new mums or mums to be on here that would like to discuss this..whether it has been done before or not.
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Posted By: Jennz
Date Posted: 30 November 2006 at 2:33am
I think it is alot to do with b/feeding in public. I doubt a Mum walking around a shop bottle feeding her baby would have even got a second glance from most people- and certainly not a thread started about it on Oh Baby.
------------- Jen, Charlotte 7 & Kate 3
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Posted By: my2angels
Date Posted: 30 November 2006 at 6:52am
ok I caved in and looked....
I think its kind of both, the thread wasnt about if it was appropriate to b/f in public, dont think anyone is questioning that but more that it isnt something you see every day and that while it is ok to b/f you can be discreet about it. thats my take on it anyway.
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Posted By: lizzle
Date Posted: 30 November 2006 at 7:32am
to tell the truth, i would'nt be keen on bottle feeding a baby while walking around a store either. as I said, I don't like eating and walking. I'm sure it causes indigestion! then again, might help burp babies....oh thats another thing. My babies were all spilly....gross on browsing for clothes.
As for b/feeding in public - said it before, will say again. Each to their own. I want to have the RIGHT to b/feed wherever I like. Whether or not I take it up is another story!
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Posted By: Paws
Date Posted: 30 November 2006 at 8:04am
Ok I'm going to have to put my 2c in...
I think lizzle summed it up...I want the right to be able to feed where I need to, even if I don't take it. As it is Maddie is a bottle babe but I have had to feed her in pubic places and if she was still a breastfeed babe it wouldn't have made a difference, I still would have had to feed her.
I can understand that for some they might find it uncomfortable and I think it's sad that it's been so taboo in many ways, that some people feel they should hide away to brestfeed, to me it's just not right. To me it is something that is totally natural and mums need the support to feed when and where they need to.
I doubt she was flopping her boobs out for the world to see (though if she was that would be a different story maybe). It's true though, a bottle fed babe probably wouldn't get a second glance. Even I know I've done a double take at mum's breastfeeding in public but then I've thought...why shouldn't they...they're only feeding thier child. Do we need to put a s*xual spin on everything?
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Posted By: busymum
Date Posted: 30 November 2006 at 8:15am
I guess with needing two hands, it would be much more difficult to bottle feed and shop, unless the baby could hold the bottle him/herself. So that's why it can seem so odd when someone b/fs and shops. Personally I don't mind so long as the mother is discreet and I think most mums do like to be.
But if you want hot topics, just get me started on whether 2yos should still be b/fing  
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Posted By: Roksana
Date Posted: 30 November 2006 at 9:40am
I was asked the other day how long I plan to b/feed Zaara and my answer was ...I havent thought about it yet!! I am sure once Zaara had enough she wont take it herself....but for mow we are both happy!
But what is the best age to stop??
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Posted By: Jennz
Date Posted: 30 November 2006 at 10:35am
I was told that there was no nutritional benefit for baby after 9 months.
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Posted By: Maya
Date Posted: 30 November 2006 at 10:46am
Jen I was told the same thing - although it could have been to pacify me after I was told I HAD to give up when Maya was 10 mths, and I felt horribly guilty.
I personally wouldn't walk around and feed my baby but only because I physically can't, even at home. My boobs are way too big and saggy so I need two hands to feed - one for bubs head and one for my boob so no spare hand to carry bubs around.
But I am probably THE biggest advocate of a woman's right to breastfeed in public. The other day in The Warehouse Sienna was absolutely losing it and the duty manager heard Mum and I talking about where to feed her and he said we were welcome to find a seat in the furniture dept and feed them. So nice, especially from a man.
But also, like Liz said, whether a woman chooses totake up her right to breastfeed in public is completely a personal choice. Some ladies just don't feel comfortable with it, and that's fine.
To tell the truth, I feel I am judged more for bottle feeding my babies in public than I do for breastfeeding. Some people are so anti-bottles. Some days I want to wear a sign that says "I am bottle feeding them breastmilk now leave me alone!"
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Posted By: my2angels
Date Posted: 30 November 2006 at 11:18am
I think everyone has the right to feed thier baby how ever they want and where ever they want but you can be respectful about it. I dont think of it as a sexual thing, to me its just polite not to expose everything say at the table while Im about to eat right opposite you, unless you do it discreetly. I also feel more judged bottle feeding in public because of people who have such small minds they cant accept breast feeding isnt for everyone and everyone has the right to choose. Im not anti breast feeding at all, have no problem with it in any way but I am anti people who dont respect a womens right to bottle feed.
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Posted By: Roksana
Date Posted: 30 November 2006 at 11:26am
hmm...might have to do a search on the internet to see what age is best to stop b/feeding.
I have never breastfed in public. And even at home, if there other people apart from hubby in the room I will cover up and the feed Zaara. Mind you the cheeky monkey always pulls the cover off......but the only reason I do that is because I dont feel comfortable. It is a personal thing.
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Posted By: meow
Date Posted: 30 November 2006 at 2:34pm
Jennz wrote:
I was told that there was no nutritional benefit for baby after 9 months. |
What did you do after 9 months? give formula?
Roksana, you just breastfeed for as long as you are comfortable with it.
I stopped feeding Ella at 13.5 months and that was a good time for us. There is no specific time frame of when you should stop feeding, but the guideline is to feed for 1 year or so and then change to cow's milk. But many more continue for longer and that's fine too..
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Posted By: Roksana
Date Posted: 30 November 2006 at 2:40pm
Well Zaara demands it at the moment so I dont see why I should not continue...So I will. Untill one of us is tired of it!! Lol
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Posted By: ellabellame
Date Posted: 30 November 2006 at 2:52pm
good one roksana, that's what i'm doing with mikey.
and plunket reccommends that you breastfeed baby for at least 6 months, preferably a year because that is what healthiest, anything after that's just a bonus.
i'm not bashing people who choose to bottle feed, i think it's a personal choice and no-one should be judged either way.
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Posted By: kezplanet
Date Posted: 30 November 2006 at 3:42pm
I wasnt able to b/f with Ashlyn because of infection and iv antibiotics (sp), and I felt I was letting her down also all of our lives we are told how natural it is and how every woman should be able to do it.....etc etc nobody tells you that you may have to work at it to get the latch correct, and that if you have a c-section that it may take longer for your milk to come in. I was lucky with Anastasia that I was able to b/f and everything has been going great. So I'm lucky that I have been able to experiance both sides of the coin. But it made no difference when feeding them in public people will always stare, whether approving or disapproving, its just something that people do. I know I have dont it myself, usually awww how nice etc but the woman who is feeding doesn't know what you thinking and everyone has there own take on what looks they are receiving. I got the looks both times and its just a matter of switching off to them if I wanted to feed publically.
------------- Kerryn, Mum to
Ashlyn(29/3/04), Anastasia(1/11/05) & Abigail (24/02/09)
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Posted By: Roksana
Date Posted: 30 November 2006 at 3:56pm
If I ever heard some one making a comment re the bottle vs Breast...and how it is bad to bottle feed blah blah...I would give them a piece of my mind.
If you dont know the situation and you pass comments its just plain Rude.
I could never judge....and why should any one judge...who gives you the right??
If the bub is happy and healthy then what does it matter??
Its like saying that Natural birth is better than C section...well I pused for hours and ended up with a c section...because Zaara was looking up....Am I a bad mother?? NO
Same should go for people who bottle feed or vs.
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Posted By: my2angels
Date Posted: 30 November 2006 at 4:55pm
Thats one thing you breast feeding mothers have on your side, while you may get started at for feeding in public at least you dont get horrible looks and comments about being a bad mother for bottle feeding.
And really in 10 years time when all our kids are grown up a bit no one is going to sit around saying oh he must be a bottle feed child or oh bet that one was born by c section.... it just isnt a long term issue if you know what i mean. there are much more important things to worry/think about.
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Posted By: AnnC
Date Posted: 30 November 2006 at 4:59pm
I remember with my daughter I stopped brest feeding at 6 weeks. Met this lady on the street who I sort of known and one of the questions she asked me is if I was breastfeeding - strange as there was no conversation to bring this up that we talked about - I said No she is fully bottle fed well... what a lecture i got from her, I can't remember what I said to her but i thought how dare she go on how I was not a good mother for bottle feeding (she didn't say I was a bad mother but she might as well of siad it)
Personal choice!!! I agree, I am breast feeding Rhyley but if things don't work out or I feel I would rather bottle feed I have no problems doing that.
As for in public I have no problems someone doing that either I think good on them, you can't guanatee when baby needs a feed and the beauty of breat feeding is its on tap. It be different if the lady (who was feeding in the shop) was walking around with her boob flashing and no baby on it but as I feel about mine - they aren't mine they are just something that feeds baby and definately not a sexual object at present.
------------- Ann
Also Mum to Josh (15) and Brooke (10)
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Posted By: Paws
Date Posted: 30 November 2006 at 5:14pm
I dare someone to have a go at me for bottle feeding Maddie!! There are still plenty of times when I think how I would love to be able to breastfeed and hopefully I will get to breastfeed number 2...but if I end up in as much pain as I did and end with PND again and need medication...then I will bottle feed again. Healthy mum, healthy baby...that was B and I stuck to!
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Posted By: Paws
Date Posted: 30 November 2006 at 5:15pm
And Roksana - breastfeed as long as you feel comfortable! I personally would have stopped at about a year anyway, but it's YOUR choice how long you feed her for (so long as your not the next woman in the mags breastfeeding her 9 year old we won't mock you! )
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Posted By: mum2paris
Date Posted: 30 November 2006 at 6:00pm
lol, just adding that apparently the world health organisation reccomends breastfeeding for the first two years.. i spose it's about the same amount of time you'd prob give a bottle/milk feeds. I dunno i never really thought about it but i stopped feeding ayja at about 14 months i think.. but she'd half weaned herself and was just down to night feeds.. and once i went out for my state finals celebration, i had some wine, and thought "bugger that, can't be bothered expressing to get it out of my system and my milk" so just stopped, and she really didn't care.
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Posted By: ellabellame
Date Posted: 30 November 2006 at 7:28pm
wow janine, i really really hopeit's going to be that easy with mikey.....somehow i doubt it.
and i've heard about the 2 year reccommendation as well, i just didn't want to quote it as i got told it, i didn't read it so i didn't know if it was true.
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Posted By: Bombshell
Date Posted: 30 November 2006 at 7:32pm
Roksana - my mum breastfed me til i was 18 months...but also had other during that time too....i weaned myself as did her other kids from 12 - 18 months!
Do what feels right for you and Zaara
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Posted By: busymum
Date Posted: 30 November 2006 at 7:49pm
My little brother b/f until 2 1/2 years.
Some kids wean themselves and some need encouragement. For me, I had to wean my girls at around 11mos because I was pregnant with the next little bub and I find it almost impossible to keep the weight on when b/fing, let alone when preg as well. I was too exhausted to keep them both up. But I had planned to b/f until 12mos anyway, as that is when it's okay to go straight from b/f to cow's milk.
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Posted By: Maya
Date Posted: 30 November 2006 at 7:50pm
The WHO recommendations also take into account developing countries where it is safest to breastfeed as long as possible due to unclean water etc.
I wasn't ready to wean Maya when I did (10 mths) and I felt incredibly guilty when I found out that it was my breastmilk that was making her so sick (dairy crossing to her thru my milk). If I had been able to I probably would hae continued until she weaned herself, or she got old enough to actually ask for the breast - I find that a bit creepy! IMO if they can ask then they're too old (just my personal opinion tho!)
With the twins I have thought about giving up so many times, and now they are pretty much on 100% expressed milk with only the occasional actual breastfeed, and the expressing is tiring and time consuming and it would be so easy to chuck it in. I don't know why I keep doing it, I guess part of it is the whole "breast is best" thing (although in Maya's case it wasn't) and part of it is me trying to prove a point - I'm awfully good at doing everything the hard way just to prove I can when people think I can't
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Lil miss:Chiara Louise Chloe (09/07/08)
Her ladyship:Rosalia Sophie Anais (18/06/12)
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Posted By: nikkitheknitter
Date Posted: 30 November 2006 at 8:22pm
hehehehehe Emma - I'm the same
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Posted By: Roksana
Date Posted: 01 December 2006 at 10:16am
Ok ...I have decided that I will keep feeding her till she is 2, unless she does not want it anymore. I also wanna try for another baby in the middle of next year and if I get Preg soon after then it might be couple of months shorter!!
I liked this Convo ladies!! thank you
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Posted By: meow
Date Posted: 01 December 2006 at 11:43am
That's great Roksana I felt a bit guilty when I stopped breastfeeding but I wanted my body back.. after being preggie for 9 months and then breastfeeding for almost 14 months I needed a break!
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Posted By: mumandbubs
Date Posted: 01 December 2006 at 11:53am
Edited spelling and putting this into context.
Regarding the lady feeding in the shop.
I think it's fine! One of my employees bf's instore, my mum doesn't like it, but nobody else seems to mind, you can't see anything.
Shop assisstants aren't allowed to ask women to stop feeding, it's against basic human rights, all of the policies in shops I've worked in have stipulated that they mustn' be asked to stop and must be treated as normal.
In some European countries it's very very normal - even though the breast is seen as sexual a feeding breast isn't. Would be nice if it was more like that here, but it's still so taboo.
I didn't feed in shops myself, I'd go to sit down in the comfy chairs in the parents rooms (without the curtain pulled) but I did feed in the park in the middle of town a few times!
We have feeding chairs instore so mums feed instore lots and lots.
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Posted By: AnnC
Date Posted: 01 December 2006 at 11:54am
I have a delemore about how long to breastfeed for and I know it is more selfish of me than anything else (its totally selfish) you see next year in MArch I have my best friends 3oth and Dh 30th and I want to be able to go out and drink with them both. We are also going to Uk and I shall b catching up with cousins and mates from my OE that once again i would like to go out drinking with --- now on the other hand it would be so much easier traveling all that way with a 4-5 month old if I breast fed rather than bottle fed... I am sure I am the only one who has the answer to this but its a delemore (on the other side of things) neverthe less - I mean I don't wanna get bloto - gosh could you imagine the hang over the next day and a baby to contend with - just a few drinks.
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Posted By: Maya
Date Posted: 01 December 2006 at 12:07pm
Ann, you could always express enough to feed him for a day or give him forumla for a day while the alcohol gets out of your breast milk but keep expressing and just ditch the alcohol-contaminated milk. That's what I did for Mercedes when I wanted to get her dairy free asap.
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Posted By: Maya
Date Posted: 01 December 2006 at 12:08pm
The expressing will make sure your milk supply is maintained. Sorry didn't make that clear.
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Posted By: Andie
Date Posted: 01 December 2006 at 12:20pm
Since having Ella, I've been soooo pro a woman's right to breastfeed wherever she may be when her baby needs a feed. Not saying that women should feel they have to, but seriously, we shouldn't have to remove ourselves from every public or social situation each time bubs needs a feed. I use a cloth to cover me if I'm somewhere public, or if there's a man in the room who isn't my hubby (mostly because I'm still getting the hang of being discreet enough not to show anything when I'm latching her on). And I've fed baby in a restaurant, at the Doc's waiting room, and in friend's homes. Personally wouldn't feed while shopping, but that's just me. I was really suprised when I saw a lady doing that (just thinking here - wouldn't we all feel STINK if said lady was reading this and had a little something to say - you just never know!), but the lady I saw was still being discreet, and frankly, I'm just not co-ordinated enough to manage feeding while standing and shopping at the same time!
Now I'm going to start fully supporting any woman's right to go COMPLETELY POSTAL at people who criticize her for where she feeds or doesn't wish to feed, and how she feeds (breast or bottle, expressed or formula)... I think we've all got a right to give anyone who is really rude to us over this a huge piece of our minds! (Though amidst the baby fog, I'm not sure I want to give up any more of my mind! ). Wee rant over.
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Posted By: Andie
Date Posted: 01 December 2006 at 12:24pm
Hey Emma, what I've read about breastfeeding and drinking suggested that after 2 hours, any alcohol consumed has been re-absorbed into the bloodstream and is no longer in breastmilk... have I read this wrong? Crikey, I've got my 30th coming up soon and while I'm not interested in getting trashed I do want to taste that sweet sweet wine on the night! OK and I have to admit a beer just MAKES any BBQ for me too - I love a good beer at a barbie! I'd thought it was OK to have a drink after the last feed for the night (before baby's big sleep) - but if I'm wrong on this I'd really like to know! Thanks
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Posted By: ellabellame
Date Posted: 01 December 2006 at 12:34pm
andie, my midwife told me that it's one hour per standard drink so if you have 1 beer then you can feed ella an hour after that, 2 beers, 2 hours etc.
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Posted By: Roksana
Date Posted: 01 December 2006 at 12:43pm
I miss my beer too...but was never a huge drinker any ways. After nearly two years later, it does not bother me that I cant drink!! But after some stressfull days at work I do wish I could have a beer...but end up having a piece of chocolate instead...he he ha...yumm chocolate!!!
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Posted By: busymum
Date Posted: 01 December 2006 at 2:13pm
Andie by then Ella will hopefully be sleeping better at nights... we had our 1st anniversary when Hannah was about 7 weeks old and I just put her to bed for the "night" (4-6 hours or whatever it was then) before bringing out the bottle and nibbles. Hey I went without it for the full 9 months prior, I go a bit easier on it after bub is born cause I figure I'll see if there's any reaction 
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Posted By: Rachael21
Date Posted: 01 December 2006 at 11:50pm
I got told to wait 7 hours after your last drink and its what I have always gone by.
There is no way I am co ordinated enough to shop and bf but if I could I probably would.
Don't get me started on bfing past one. Of course there is nutritional benefit past 9 months. I'm not going to get into this but as long as you continue bfing the benefits continue makes no difference if they are 6 days 6 months or 6 years breast is always better than any other milk. it was designed for humans like cows milk was designed for cows (I'm not saying theres anything wrong with formula just that breast is better no matter what age).
We should all be supporting each other no matter how or where we feed our babies the important thing is that we do feed them.
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Posted By: Jennz
Date Posted: 02 December 2006 at 2:28am
Just in my defence, because some people seem to have taken real exception to my comment "I was told that there was no nutritional benefit for baby after 9 months."- it was just something I was told. Someone asked when was it time to give up and that was the only information I knew so I just said it. In hindsight I should have added 'but I think you should continue for as long as you're comfortable with' because thats how I feel.
My Mum used to volunteer for Plunket- this was a long time ago, but she was taught this at the time and told me. Like Emma, I may have just been told this to make me feel less bad as my milk supply ran out at 6 months and I had to give up. Wasn't trying to imply that anyone should give up before they're ready or being unsupportive just passing on the only piece of relevant information, that wasn't pure opinion, that I knew.
Edited to add- Found this on a health and nutrition website "Ideally, it is desirable to carry on breast feeding until the age of one, or even later. Certainly, you should keep up either breast or formula milk until that age. If I had it my way, from a nutritional standpoint, we would probably carry on breast feeding until nearer the age of two, but I realise that, for many mothers, this is not a realistic option. I believe it is around this time that nature intended us to wean our children, as many will start to reduce the amount of lactase, or milk sugar digesting enzymes, that they produce."
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Posted By: lizzle
Date Posted: 02 December 2006 at 6:27am
Jen, i read that as, something you had been told - not necessarily telling people it was 100% true, so i wasn't offended in the least@! It can be so hard with forums though, getting the right tone across sometimes!
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Posted By: Jennz
Date Posted: 02 December 2006 at 7:29am
Hehe thanks Couple of people just seemed to really fire up so thought I should clarify. Its the same problem with texting isn't it! No one ever gets my sarcastic text jokes
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Posted By: Rachael21
Date Posted: 02 December 2006 at 10:06am
Sorry if it sounded like I was having a go at you Jen I realised it was what you were told I just wanted to say it wasn't true lol. Maybe they meant after 9 months babies can get all the nutrients they need from food or something.
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Posted By: Jennz
Date Posted: 02 December 2006 at 11:11am
Hehe thats ok! Just wanted to make sure people didn't think I was saying that you are supposed to give up at 9 months.
Probably just another one of those things that changes with each generation I guess- kind of like how they used to say to only sleep baby on it tummy, then its side, now its back...
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Posted By: BaAsKa
Date Posted: 02 December 2006 at 11:38am
I dont find it offensive, if my son had feed properly and i was coordinated enough (i so wasnt and may well have dropped bubs!! if i tried!! ) i wouldv done it. I guess there are many reasons for doing it like not having enough time, having an unsettled bubs etc. I must say though that its fine as long as it is descreet and not hanging out for africa to see!!!
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