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Topic: weight gain
Posted By: AlyAyde
Subject: weight gain
Date Posted: 12 February 2005 at 4:13pm
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Hey guys, Haven't been on for the last few days, so thought i should update you on our dramas. Jayde has only been gaining 100gms per week for the last 4 weeks. Plunket is'nt worried but i am. I know this isnt normal and she has flatlined if you look at her plunket book (Alyssa was putting on about 200-250gms at this age per week).
I went into our family centre yesterday to get some help. They weighed her and she had only put on 2oz in 4 days. Then they got me to feed her. I was doing everything right she just screamed or refused to suck when she went on. The last time i feed her was at 440am and she refused to feed until about 11. At which time i asked them if they had a breast pump for me to express into and then i could give her a bottle. I expressed about 50mls and she gobbled it up. They told me not to feed her when she is sleepy or asleed as they dont feed well. But at least she will take the breast then. Doing it their way she refuses all together. Grr. I went home so frustraited and sad, thinking i had wasted my time. Rob's gone into town to buy me an electric breast pump today so i can give her a bottle after feeds at night at this stage. grrr. I just felt that plunket wasnt taking me seriously. Im going to see my doctor on monday maybe she will have some suggestions or may be able to do tests or something to see what is wrong with her. Silent reflux has been mentioned by my plunket nurse so may need to go on medication for that. ANyway who said no2 would be easy.  ------------- Jayde 25/12/04 Alyssa 08/04/03 http://Alyayde.bebo.com |
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Posted By: mum2paris
Date Posted: 12 February 2005 at 10:26pm
I feel for you so much. I had the same dilemma with Paris. She was born a good weight (for our size) and yet she just didn't thrive and gain weight. It was about the same stage as you are at now that things started going wrong with breastfeeding for us as well. What you have described is what happened at every feed for us, from about 6 weeks onwards.. to varying degrees, sometimes i would have a day of sucesses, but usually that was followed by many days of failed feeds.. so yes, i would wait till she was pretty much asleep because she would resist less. All i can say is, get help, if plunket is no good (a few people I know have found the same thing) perhaps get in touch with your hospital lactation consultant? maybe you could get referred through your gp etc. Make sure you keep trying, and asking for help until you get solutions that work.. it gets very disheartening when you go somewhere for help and come away feeling like maybe it's all in your head. we went down every road possible with Paris too - reflux is a very prevalent prob in Mike's family so we were quite worried about that as well. I'm worried about the same thing happening with this one, almost to the point where i sometimes question whether or not i should even try. but i will give it a go, and think maybe if it doesn't turn out, I will cut my losses much earlier. however, I can only imagine how hard it would be to have had sucess with my first.. then problems with the second. Hopefully this is just a phase baby's going through. I hope everything works out for you. do what you have to do to keep your baby healthy, but also remember that your sanity is important too! Good luck. ------------- Janine and her 2 cool chicks, Paris & Ayja 
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Posted By: lou
Date Posted: 12 February 2005 at 10:32pm
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I just had a look back at Sophie's well child book. In her first 5 weeks she went from the 90th percentile to the 50th percentile, putting on 100 - 200 grams a week (not for lack of milk on my part). From there she managed to stick to the 50th percentile. I know it's hard, but try not to stress too much as bubs will pick up on it. Hope you work out what my be causing the poor weight gain ------------- Mother to two beautiful children - Sophie age 6 and Ephraim age 4 |
Posted By: Maya
Date Posted: 13 February 2005 at 1:45pm
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I can empathise Maria, Maya was fine as a newborn but at about 4 mths stopped gaining weight and was eventually diagnosed as 'fails to thrive' at 8 mths old. It was a long hard road getting a diagnosis tho, I was fed every single excuse from "she's just got a fast metabolism' to 'some babies just grow slowly' and it wasn't until she ended up on the 3rd percentile that anyone would take notice.
In saying that tho, Jayde was a healthy birthweight, so it is possible she is gaining slower and will stay around average weight. But the best advice I can give you is to do what you think is best. Don't let anyone second guess you - you are her mum and you know best. Good luck! -------------  Maya Grace (28/02/03)
 (02/01/06)
The Gremlins:Sienna Marie & Mercedes Kailah (14/10/06)
Lil miss:Chiara Louise Chloe (09/07/08)
Her ladyship:Rosalia Sophie Anais (18/06/12)
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Posted By: AlyAyde
Date Posted: 13 February 2005 at 6:32pm
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Thanks for the support guys. She seems to be feeding better today, maybe its just me being hopefull. Anyway its nice to know other people have been in the same boat and that their babies have come out fine. Its hard not to worry though aye. Anyway ill get the GP to check her throat and ears etc tomorrow. Thanks again for your words of support its just good to know that someone is listening. ------------- Jayde 25/12/04 Alyssa 08/04/03 http://Alyayde.bebo.com |
Posted By: mum2paris
Date Posted: 13 February 2005 at 8:11pm
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mm, I have found this site is so great for boosting confidence and supporting.. am so glad i found it, gives me a bit more hope that this time i won't feel so lonely and isolated.. and that's gotta be a plus.
------------- Janine and her 2 cool chicks, Paris & Ayja
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Posted By: Maya
Date Posted: 13 February 2005 at 8:55pm
You won't be lonely and isolated Janine - you have us to moan to! 
I remember when Maya was sick in hospital and Willie was nowhere to be seen, these wonderful ladies on here were so supportive. It was great just to feel like someone was interested coz I was pretty lonely and depressed, and my 'perfect' baby was turning out not to be so 'perfect' at all. (But of course she is  )------------- Maya Grace (28/02/03)
(02/01/06)
The Gremlins:Sienna Marie & Mercedes Kailah (14/10/06)
Lil miss:Chiara Louise Chloe (09/07/08)
Her ladyship:Rosalia Sophie Anais (18/06/12)
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Posted By: lizzle
Date Posted: 13 February 2005 at 9:03pm
| Being over here, having some people who are sensible to ask questions has been a life saver for me. japanese people give babies tea from 1 month.....tea??? |
Posted By: mum2paris
Date Posted: 14 February 2005 at 11:38am
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argh!that is so scary!
mind you, i nannied for an indian family, and by 9 months their little girl was gobbling down the hottest curries with her mum and dad. her nickname was "curry baby" simply cos she would refuse everything else if she has the option of hot food. (just the smell of it cooking was enough to give me hot flushes and eyes water) ------------- Janine and her 2 cool chicks, Paris & Ayja
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Posted By: lizzle
Date Posted: 14 February 2005 at 12:33pm
| Yeah, I saw a nine month old slurping down noodles for new year. then again when i worked at *cough* Burger King *cough*, I used to see lots of mums feeding their offspring chips, and these kids couldn't sit by themselves, all of five-six months I think!! |
Posted By: Xander&Harmony
Date Posted: 14 February 2005 at 2:52pm
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cough cough I worked at burger king up till i was 7 mnths preg with xander and always saw babies eating fries n nuggets.when and wot BK did u work at lizzle??? ------------- BECS http://www.sparklee.com"> 
Angel Baby 10/07/09 (10wks4days) |
Posted By: Maya
Date Posted: 14 February 2005 at 4:40pm
Maya has fries 
She first had them at 9 mths when she was in Starship. She was really underweight and the dietician came to see us, and we were looking out the window of her room at Macca's and the dietician said "you know, it wouldn't hurt that girl to have a few chips. Might put some weight on her". She loved the chips, although I did feel really guilty giving them to her, and expert did tell me to do it! Now she only has Macca's about once a month but considering how many foods she can't eat, she doesn't get too many treats so I let her have Macca's occasionally. ------------- Maya Grace (28/02/03)
(02/01/06)
The Gremlins:Sienna Marie & Mercedes Kailah (14/10/06)
Lil miss:Chiara Louise Chloe (09/07/08)
Her ladyship:Rosalia Sophie Anais (18/06/12)
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Posted By: mum2paris
Date Posted: 14 February 2005 at 8:59pm
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yeah, paris is a chip fiend. anything starchy... pasta, noodles, potatos, chips. 9 months isn't too bad for noodles.. they can be a nice alternative for potatoes etc sometimes. only thing i hate about most fast food places chips is 1) the fat content.. and 2) soooo much salt! but yep - paris had "donalds" for the first time a few months before xmas... (up till then we couldn't afford it) now, she just eats the chips, scrounges some of my sundae, then wants to play... so basically.. she's a normal kid. lol. ------------- Janine and her 2 cool chicks, Paris & Ayja
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Posted By: lou
Date Posted: 14 February 2005 at 9:16pm
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Sophie likes chips - as long as there's plenty of tomato sauce. I don't mind her have some junk food as she is such a good fruit eater. I often have to tell her she can't have any more as she has had so much. ------------- Mother to two beautiful children - Sophie age 6 and Ephraim age 4 |
Posted By: mum2paris
Date Posted: 14 February 2005 at 9:24pm
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yep, paris loves the sauce.. she dips her whole hand in and eats it by itself.. i'm mean, sometimes i just don't give her any, otherwise she eats it all and wants more.. just the sauce, not the chips. lol.. actually i think emma said about Maya doing the same thing on a post a while ago. ------------- Janine and her 2 cool chicks, Paris & Ayja
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Posted By: lizzle
Date Posted: 15 February 2005 at 3:31am
I worked at BK (as those of us in the know call it  ) in palmerston North....umm for about two years 1997=99 i think.
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Posted By: Xander&Harmony
Date Posted: 15 February 2005 at 10:31am
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ok that was way before my time then.I was at the downtown one from 2001 -2003.I am guilty of giving Xander chips too but wot can u do when they stare at u eating them lol. ------------- BECS http://www.sparklee.com">
Angel Baby 10/07/09 (10wks4days) |
Posted By: melz
Date Posted: 15 February 2005 at 3:54pm
| I had a girlfriend who was always very "my child won't be having any junk food at all apart from fish & chips occasionally". That all changed when her girl was big enough to let her opinion known and now she is allowed chips and pizza and stuff. Everything in moderation I say. Angie LOVES chips and stuff but she is the same as Sophie and eats tons of fruit. She has even be known to turn down a chocolate biscuit so she could have some grapes. |
Posted By: Maya
Date Posted: 15 February 2005 at 6:53pm
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Yep. Maya is a sauce fiend too. But she also eats heaps of fruit and veges so it kinda balances itself out. And I always request chips without salt for her. ------------- Maya Grace (28/02/03)
(02/01/06)
The Gremlins:Sienna Marie & Mercedes Kailah (14/10/06)
Lil miss:Chiara Louise Chloe (09/07/08)
Her ladyship:Rosalia Sophie Anais (18/06/12)
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Posted By: mum2paris
Date Posted: 15 February 2005 at 8:22pm
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yep,. we keep it pretty balanced with paris, it helps that daycare give fruit etc for morning and afternoon tea, and good hearty meals of veges and meat for lunch... definately nice to know if she's fussy at dinner that she's at least had a good serve of fruit and veges that day.
and yep - paris usually turns down bikies in favour of raisins cheese and crackers.. and she hates juice most of the time (except those cute little just juices if we are out).. only milk or water for her! ------------- Janine and her 2 cool chicks, Paris & Ayja
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Posted By: Bizzy
Date Posted: 16 February 2005 at 9:43am
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i used to suck the salt off the mcd's chips before giving to my boy...lots of people say he is small for his age, but he is happy and healthy and eats a balanced diet, more so than his mom sometimes, so what the hey i say. (best chips probably tho if you are worried is Wendy's cause they dont salt them at all.) ------------- http://www.myfitnesspal.com/weight-loss-ticker"> 
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Posted By: Gwyn_n_Pete
Date Posted: 16 February 2005 at 11:13am
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Hey guys havn't been on in a while so I'm a lil behind but going back to the original breastfeeding worries. Have you tried contacting the La Leche League at all? They are suppoed to be really good with helping with breastfeeding problems.
As far as fast food goes I'll probably let Gracie have it when she's older but I'll definately stay away from McDonalds, my mum got a really REALLY bad case of gastroenteritis (food poisoning) from McD's and was sick for 2 weeks and was in hospital for about 5 days. ------------- Gwyn www.babiesonline.com/babies/g/gracejenkins http://lilypie.com"> 
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Posted By: lizzle
Date Posted: 16 February 2005 at 11:54am
| I bet this eating hcips things is one of the "my child will never do that" things that we all say, and then do once we have the baby./ I remember "my child will not have a dummy"....he's sucking on one now. |
Posted By: mum2paris
Date Posted: 16 February 2005 at 4:04pm
lol, yep.. before she had her baby, my little sister got what i call "my child" disease.. everything was "my child will never do that/have this" lolol. well, who's laughing now.. ------------- Janine and her 2 cool chicks, Paris & Ayja
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Posted By: lizzle
Date Posted: 16 February 2005 at 11:44pm
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I even have a collectin of cloth nappies
"my child won't be in disposables...so bad for the environment" HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA |
Posted By: Maya
Date Posted: 17 February 2005 at 12:50pm
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I did cloth nappies. I am superwoman ------------- Maya Grace (28/02/03)
(02/01/06)
The Gremlins:Sienna Marie & Mercedes Kailah (14/10/06)
Lil miss:Chiara Louise Chloe (09/07/08)
Her ladyship:Rosalia Sophie Anais (18/06/12)
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Posted By: Gwyn_n_Pete
Date Posted: 17 February 2005 at 1:37pm
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LOL we were going to do the whole cloth nappies thing, we even went out and bought about 40 of the things. After that first poo though there was no way LOL. When I was pregnant I always said I wont dress Gracie in pink but it's pretty much all she wears, LOL it's just so cute! ------------- Gwyn www.babiesonline.com/babies/g/gracejenkins http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: AlyAyde
Date Posted: 17 February 2005 at 2:12pm
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yep i did cloth nappies for a month. Then Alyssa got nappy rash and that was the end of that. ------------- Jayde 25/12/04 Alyssa 08/04/03 http://Alyayde.bebo.com |
Posted By: Maya
Date Posted: 17 February 2005 at 3:13pm
We managed to avoid nappy rash by using powder at every change, and used liners to try and contain the yuckiness, but especially when she was really small there were some huge explosions that ended up eveywhere ------------- Maya Grace (28/02/03)
(02/01/06)
The Gremlins:Sienna Marie & Mercedes Kailah (14/10/06)
Lil miss:Chiara Louise Chloe (09/07/08)
Her ladyship:Rosalia Sophie Anais (18/06/12)
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Posted By: mum2paris
Date Posted: 17 February 2005 at 9:09pm
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we got cloth nappies, and up the hospital for the first few days i sorta liked them, then by day 3 i thought stuff this, theres some samples here of huggies and treasures, and after that i was sold. i think it also didn't help that while i knew how to fold nappies, no matter what did i could NEVER fold them small enough! my older sister came to visit me in the hospital just a few hours after i had paris and she folded heaps of nappies for me to use.. i even tried taking one of hers undone and redoing it step by step and it still didn't work out right.
lol, pink.. i said that too, but its all everyone gives you when you have a girl - i hadn't bought any myself, it was all gifts.. then of course you HAVE to use it, and then they look so cute. and that's the end of that. plus theres the fact that a few times when i dressed paris in a really neat blue outift, people presumed she was a boy "shock horror!" actually, come to think of it, there were a few times when people still asked "girl or boy" when she was fully decked in pink. now i'm worried  .------------- Janine and her 2 cool chicks, Paris & Ayja
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Posted By: angel
Date Posted: 17 February 2005 at 9:50pm
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I use cloth on Ella... very easy really, if you get fitted nappies you dont need to know how to fold the flat ones. I still like to use flats though because they dry so quick, but fitteds are obviously easier. Dont get any nappy rash unless she has a round of diahorrea (from teething usually), and use microfleece for liners because it lets moisture through but doesnt absorb it. ------------- Aimee Ella - 5.5 years old! Toby - nearly 3 years old! 
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Posted By: lou
Date Posted: 18 February 2005 at 7:48am
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I like cloth better than disposible - sooo much cheaper and also I couldn't stand all the bags of wet nappies I'd end up with wait for rubbish day. ------------- Mother to two beautiful children - Sophie age 6 and Ephraim age 4 |
Posted By: lizzle
Date Posted: 18 February 2005 at 12:02pm
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i can't fold them at all. I had to ask the midwife to come in each time I wanted to change Jake in the hospital. Quite embarressing.
that and I hate washing, dioshes, clothes the floor.....whatever....actu7ally come to think of it. I HATE HOUSEWORK!!! I am so getting a cleaner |
Posted By: mum2paris
Date Posted: 18 February 2005 at 12:37pm
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lol. i am getting better at it, had a nice day at home with paris yesterday, and managed to get quite a bit done.. feel very proud. ------------- Janine and her 2 cool chicks, Paris & Ayja
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Posted By: AlyAyde
Date Posted: 18 February 2005 at 2:43pm
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Jayde only put on 80gms this week. im at a loss of what to do now...... I thought she would have put on heaps from all the exta effot im going to expressing etc. Grrrrrrrrrrrrr Rob nearly came home from work as i was so upset when i phoned him. Talked him into staying there, nothing he can do anyway. Plunket had no more advise for me so that sucked. ------------- Jayde 25/12/04 Alyssa 08/04/03 http://Alyayde.bebo.com |
Posted By: kerryberry
Date Posted: 18 February 2005 at 3:19pm
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Hi,
Have you given La Leche or one of them specialist breatfeeding peoples a go.......I can hardly give advise, but I know the last time I had a baby the age of Jayde (11 years ago), Plunket were damned useless in this area. I actually gave up b/feeding at 6 weeks due to pure frustration thinking I was doing it all wrong. As it turned out, darian's (my son) skeletal plates had been slightly squished at birth (forceps) and so he couldn't suck properly. A cranial osteopath had him fixed in 2 sessions.....if only I had known that at the time, could have saved everyone a lot of drama. Good Luck....:-) ------------- http://lilypie.com"> 
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Posted By: angel
Date Posted: 18 February 2005 at 3:25pm
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When I got Ella weighed at 8 months, she had only gained 140grams in a month. I started dropping breastfeeds and putting her on formula the next day, by 9 months she was down to 1 breastfeed per day and had gained 700grams in that month. Not saying that you should put her on formula though, just that it made a big difference for us. ------------- Aimee Ella - 5.5 years old! Toby - nearly 3 years old!
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Posted By: Maya
Date Posted: 18 February 2005 at 3:38pm
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Have you mentioned it to your GP Maria? We have a great GP who really listens and she was one of the few people who took me seriously when Maya wasn't thriving. Maybe you could mention your concerns to your GP and they can check whether there are any underlying causes like not sucking properly or whatever. That might give you some more ideas.
But most likely Jayde is just growing a little slower than usual. Maya was hug eborn, then slowed right down. She's still small for her age, but perfectly healthy. Good luck, but I'm sure Jayde will be fine, after all you breastfed Alyssa successfully without too many problems, so this time round you know what you're doing. ------------- Maya Grace (28/02/03)
(02/01/06)
The Gremlins:Sienna Marie & Mercedes Kailah (14/10/06)
Lil miss:Chiara Louise Chloe (09/07/08)
Her ladyship:Rosalia Sophie Anais (18/06/12)
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Posted By: AlyAyde
Date Posted: 18 February 2005 at 3:46pm
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yeah, been to gp, throat ears etc is fine. Dont think i need La leche as latch etc is fine and i have heaps of milk. I can express 100mls after a feed so there is lots there and i thought she was feeding heaps better too, go figure. I've been told maybe she just has a quick metabolism, who knows. Anyway i guess at least she is gaining something. Thanks for the support guys. ------------- Jayde 25/12/04 Alyssa 08/04/03 http://Alyayde.bebo.com |
Posted By: lou
Date Posted: 18 February 2005 at 4:06pm
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Do you just feed her on the one side? If you are feeding on both sides you could try putting her back on the same side for a top up, instead of the other, that wat she should get more hind milk which is the stuff with lots of fat etc. ------------- Mother to two beautiful children - Sophie age 6 and Ephraim age 4 |
Posted By: AlyAyde
Date Posted: 18 February 2005 at 6:54pm
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yep, letting her totally empty one breast then offering her the other. Giving her the side she doesnt like first. I was starting her off on alternate sides but got told to give her the side she doesnt like most first as she is less likely to reject it. But keep the ideas coming, much appreciated. ------------- Jayde 25/12/04 Alyssa 08/04/03 http://Alyayde.bebo.com |
Posted By: mum2paris
Date Posted: 20 February 2005 at 8:25pm
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can i ask.. is it by any chance the right side that she rejects? just out of interest.. cos paris did the same. argh, by 6 months she was down to one feed from the left side only in the morning.. the rest were formula.. as she dropped each feed i would give the bottle.. but hung on for far too long i think. one day she just woke up and wouldn't even take that. ------------- Janine and her 2 cool chicks, Paris & Ayja
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Posted By: Maya
Date Posted: 21 February 2005 at 11:14am
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Maya was the opposite - she rejected the left side lol. That's also the side I got mastitis in so I had to totally retrain her to feed off that side.
Funny too, even at 10 mths when we were both pretty much experts at the whole feeding thing, she still favoured the right side over the left. And when I started bottle feeding about the same time, she would only lie facing the right side. Funny baby that she is. ------------- Maya Grace (28/02/03)
(02/01/06)
The Gremlins:Sienna Marie & Mercedes Kailah (14/10/06)
Lil miss:Chiara Louise Chloe (09/07/08)
Her ladyship:Rosalia Sophie Anais (18/06/12)
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Posted By: AlyAyde
Date Posted: 21 February 2005 at 2:57pm
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its the left with us that she hates ------------- Jayde 25/12/04 Alyssa 08/04/03 http://Alyayde.bebo.com |
Posted By: lou
Date Posted: 21 February 2005 at 8:49pm
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Sophie had a preference to start with, I had to rugby hold her to trty and trick her - worked quite well ------------- Mother to two beautiful children - Sophie age 6 and Ephraim age 4 |
Posted By: mum2paris
Date Posted: 21 February 2005 at 8:53pm
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hhhm may try that if probs arise with next one ------------- Janine and her 2 cool chicks, Paris & Ayja
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Posted By: nuttymama
Date Posted: 22 February 2005 at 7:04am
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I have a friend who had enough milk to feed a small army, however her child failed to thrive and it turned out she had heaps of milk but it wasn't stong enough for bubs, she alternated between breast feeds and formula and bubs thrived. As for plunket I find them pretty useless! I have the added advantage that my doctor is also a trained midwife so I tend to go to her with problems. We are having probs with supply and I was devasted when I found I could'nt fully feed abby so I know how frustrating it can be. I top her up with formula and it sasifies my need to breastfeed (last baby) and her need for huge amounts of food. Good luck. Ps my sis is a manager at McD's and you guys can ask for unsalted chips for the kids and they have to do it. ------------- Abigail 06/01/2005 Jayden 21/11/2001 Micheal 03/04/1997 |
Posted By: AlyAyde
Date Posted: 24 February 2005 at 10:55am
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I have finally had enough of looking at my poor little starving baby. going to my doctor today to discuss what formula she reccommends and formula feeding. (Never done it and just want to know ins and outs)
I feel so horrible but i know its best for her in the long run. Ill still breast feed her first. Plus im exhusted from expressing all the time, its now taking me an hour and a half to get between 80 and 100mls. SO my supply is getting less because im so tired. Thismorning i was up since 4-30. Feed Jayde, expressed, went to bed but then rob got up, then lissy got up. Anyway will let you all know her progress on monday and see if formula works. ------------- Jayde 25/12/04 Alyssa 08/04/03 http://Alyayde.bebo.com |
Posted By: lou
Date Posted: 24 February 2005 at 11:25am
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All the best, hope you can work somthing out that works for you all ------------- Mother to two beautiful children - Sophie age 6 and Ephraim age 4 |
Posted By: melz
Date Posted: 24 February 2005 at 4:09pm
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I don't think formula makes a huge difference to a childs development. I appreciate there are a huge number of good things in breast milk but if it comes down to a choice between an exhausted mum and a baby that is not thriving then formula has to better for everyone.
I put Angie onto formula at 3 months as I was just exhausted, she wasn't sleeping well and if you told me your name I couldn't remember it 5 minutes later. We used Karicare formula and after the first day where she wasn't interested she was quite happy. |
Posted By: Bizzy
Date Posted: 24 February 2005 at 4:29pm
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my sisters boy had tongue tie when he was born and that affected his feeding and weight gain too. soo much can have an impact...i hope your dr is supportive of your bottle feeding choice and gives your the info you need. all the best. ------------- http://www.myfitnesspal.com/weight-loss-ticker">
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Posted By: lizzle
Date Posted: 24 February 2005 at 11:26pm
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I decided to start bottle feeding Jake at three months because I started back at work. Initially i decided to express, but it is just so difficult to get enough for baby to be satisfied with. As someone else said, much better to have a relaxed mum with a bottle and formlua, than a stressed out one, with breast milk.
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Posted By: AlyAyde
Date Posted: 25 February 2005 at 2:46pm
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My doctor was fantastic. Gave me some Karicare samples the gold and the normal one. Ive got to go back and see her next week. She told me to breast feed first but as soon as Jayde starts crying or going to sleep at the breast give her the bottle to top up. Hopefully it works. Shes not taking much formula at the moment but i guess some is better than none. ------------- Jayde 25/12/04 Alyssa 08/04/03 http://Alyayde.bebo.com |
Posted By: Maya
Date Posted: 25 February 2005 at 8:01pm
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Good luck Maria. Its tough when we are bombarded with the message that breast is best. It's not always - Maya stopped growing at 5 mths but I stubbornly perservered with the breast until eventually she was so thin and sick she ended up in hospital and then I felt so guilty! At 10 mths we put her on formula, and she is now a healthy weight for her age.
Good luck, and the Karicare dieticians are great too. I rang them a few times when we were thinking about weaning Maya and they sent me free samples and info on bottle feeding etc. ------------- Maya Grace (28/02/03)
(02/01/06)
The Gremlins:Sienna Marie & Mercedes Kailah (14/10/06)
Lil miss:Chiara Louise Chloe (09/07/08)
Her ladyship:Rosalia Sophie Anais (18/06/12)
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Posted By: mum2paris
Date Posted: 25 February 2005 at 9:09pm
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yep, i struggled on too long too, and ended up with the bottle taking over.. but Paris benefitted and while i still had a bit of guilt, in the end it made all the difference, and helped me relax and actually enjoy feeding her. we used the heinz nurture stuff, but my sister used the karicare stuff.. both are just as good.
good luck and hopefully baby will be a bit more settled and mum will be able to relax! (if there is such a thing with 2 kids) ------------- Janine and her 2 cool chicks, Paris & Ayja
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Posted By: AlyAyde
Date Posted: 28 February 2005 at 4:10pm
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YAY . Jayde got weighed today and has put on 130gms in 4 days that is way more than she has been doing in a whole week. SO the formula must be working. Shes having it after all of her feeds except her morning feed. Thanks for all your help! ------------- Jayde 25/12/04 Alyssa 08/04/03 http://Alyayde.bebo.com |
Posted By: lizzle
Date Posted: 28 February 2005 at 8:20pm
thats great!! Glad to hear you guys are much happier!!
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Posted By: Maya
Date Posted: 28 February 2005 at 8:28pm
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Congrats Maria, you must be feeling relieved! ------------- Maya Grace (28/02/03)
(02/01/06)
The Gremlins:Sienna Marie & Mercedes Kailah (14/10/06)
Lil miss:Chiara Louise Chloe (09/07/08)
Her ladyship:Rosalia Sophie Anais (18/06/12)
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Posted By: mum2paris
Date Posted: 28 February 2005 at 10:05pm
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kewl - certainly takes the stress out of feed times when you aren't worrying whether baby's having enough. good gain! am glad it's working for you. ------------- Janine and her 2 cool chicks, Paris & Ayja
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Posted By: angel
Date Posted: 01 March 2005 at 11:04am
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Thats awesome news - glad its all working out for you now ------------- Aimee Ella - 5.5 years old! Toby - nearly 3 years old!
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Posted By: daikini
Date Posted: 01 March 2005 at 12:22pm
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Yay!!!!! ------------- Becca, mum of 2 girls & 3 boys |
Posted By: AlyAyde
Date Posted: 21 March 2005 at 1:35pm
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well have finally got an appt to a see a pediatrician. Yay. Hopefully get some answers. I'm getting so stressed out at Jayde crying at every feed time. I finally broke down in tears this morning talking on the phone to the hosptials lactation consultant (who is also an old family friend) She told me that she would call the child health clinic to see when my apt was. Got a call back 5 mins later from the child health clinic saying they had a cancelation on wed and i could come in then. I feel so releived we only have to tough it out until then. ------------- Jayde 25/12/04 Alyssa 08/04/03 http://Alyayde.bebo.com |
Posted By: mum2paris
Date Posted: 21 March 2005 at 3:11pm
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good - nice to see you may finally get some answers. keep us posted and good luck ------------- Janine and her 2 cool chicks, Paris & Ayja
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Posted By: Maya
Date Posted: 21 March 2005 at 8:40pm
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I really hope you get some answers Maria. Maya was diagnosed as 'fails to thrive' as a baby and I was heartbroken. I felt like such a failure as a Mum. But we got thru it, as I'm sure you and Jayde will, and well, you've seen Maya now - you'd never know that she didn't gain weight at all for over than 6 mths!
The best advice I can give you tho based on my experience is to trust your gut and push for answers. If you feel something is not right, or you don't agree with what the doctor says, ask for a second opinion, and scream until you get it. It took five visits to the emergency department with my underweight and very sick 9 month old before someone finally took me seriously and treated her the way they should have when it first started at 16 weeks. We're thinking of you, good luck on Wednesday! ------------- Maya Grace (28/02/03)
(02/01/06)
The Gremlins:Sienna Marie & Mercedes Kailah (14/10/06)
Lil miss:Chiara Louise Chloe (09/07/08)
Her ladyship:Rosalia Sophie Anais (18/06/12)
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Posted By: AlyAyde
Date Posted: 22 March 2005 at 7:38am
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Thanks. I keep thinking of all the problems you had with Maya, and yes it does help to think of what a happy healthy girl she is. Yep if i dont get any luck here there is a specailist in auckland that i can go to who apparently is an expert in reflux babies. I really just want this over so i can enjoy feeding time again. By the way did you get put on pepti junior or some other formula. If its an allergy i think we are going to have to go on that. ------------- Jayde 25/12/04 Alyssa 08/04/03 http://Alyayde.bebo.com |
Posted By: Maya
Date Posted: 22 March 2005 at 11:02am
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Yep, we did the whole Pepti Junior thing. It looks and smells awful, but Maya seemed to really like it. I had been breastfeeding until 10 mths when they convinced me to wean her onto the Pepti Jnr and all of a sudden she started growing. I still feel guilty thatI was pressured into stopping breastfeeding, if I could do it over again I think I would try eliminating dairy, egg, soy and peanut from my diet (that's what she's allergic to) to see if that helped, as traces can pass thru the breastmilk. There's nothing I can really do to stop our next child getting allergies, it's just luck of the draw, but I think I will try the restricted diet when breastfeeding.
If you get the Pepti Jnr, or Neocate prescribed for Jayde, your doc will organise a funding # for you from the Ministry of Health which makes it $15 for two tins which is pretty reasonable. And we have Southern Cross so could claim the cost back from them as it is a prescription. Also, WINZ pay a Child Disability Allowance to parents of children who have allergies, your doctor can give you a form if you need it, and it's $75 a fortnight regardless of your income. Not that I think you will need any of this stuff, but maybe it will help. Otherwise, let me know if you guys are coming to Auckland and I will come and see you or you can come and visit us. ------------- Maya Grace (28/02/03)
(02/01/06)
The Gremlins:Sienna Marie & Mercedes Kailah (14/10/06)
Lil miss:Chiara Louise Chloe (09/07/08)
Her ladyship:Rosalia Sophie Anais (18/06/12)
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Posted By: AlyAyde
Date Posted: 22 March 2005 at 11:46am
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Thanks for all that info Emma. Very helpful, was wondering what the cost was. We have southern cross too so will remember that for the claiming thing. Will let you know outcome. ------------- Jayde 25/12/04 Alyssa 08/04/03 http://Alyayde.bebo.com |
Posted By: daikini
Date Posted: 22 March 2005 at 8:41pm
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Good luck with your appointment tomorrow, Maria. ------------- Becca, mum of 2 girls & 3 boys |
Posted By: Maya
Date Posted: 24 March 2005 at 10:01am
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How did you get on with the paediatrician? ------------- Maya Grace (28/02/03)
(02/01/06)
The Gremlins:Sienna Marie & Mercedes Kailah (14/10/06)
Lil miss:Chiara Louise Chloe (09/07/08)
Her ladyship:Rosalia Sophie Anais (18/06/12)
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Posted By: AlyAyde
Date Posted: 24 March 2005 at 8:09pm
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well here goes. We went for our appt yesterday and met the very young paediatrician. We came out of there feeling that she didnt really beleive us as Jayde looks okay (only because i am force feeding her). Anway she sent us for an ECG which came back okay (whew) and had to get a stool sample analised. She also sent me a refferal to a lactation consultant/speech therapist, as we think she must have thought it was the way i was feeding Jayde. I got a little upset then thinking that it would be months until we heard from this person. But as it turns out our family friend/ consultant knew this other lady and told her i couldnt go all easter weekend without being seen. SOoooo had an apt with ST LC today at 8-30am and she saw straight away that it wasnt how i was feeding Jayde and that she was in pain. She thinks it is some sort of lactose intolerence. She also gave me this tube thing to feed her with on my little finger so i can start weening her back to the breast. (apparently your little finger is like your nipple). SO went home with this and she feed really well for that feed, as i knew she would because she feeds well on something new and then once she figures out it causes her pain she wont have it again. So that LC SP phoned at 2 to ask me how things were going i said she had feed really well but was quite upset and spilly afterwards. SHe asked me if i would like to come in for the afternoon feed so i said okay. Jayde refused breast and only drank 10mls. SHe went and got the doctor that we initially had and must of said something needs to be done because the doctor came back with a perscription for a reflux medication called Rentadine (SP) and also said that she would send away to get me a free tin of pepti-junior to try if renadine didnt work. So at least people are taking us seriously now. Thanks for the support guys. ------------- Jayde 25/12/04 Alyssa 08/04/03 http://Alyayde.bebo.com |
Posted By: lizzle
Date Posted: 24 March 2005 at 8:29pm
| Thats great!! well, not great about jayde still having trouble feeding, but at least you have someone who will listen and help you out. Wow, just realised Alyssa will be 2 soon!! How is she coping as a big sister? |
Posted By: AlyAyde
Date Posted: 24 March 2005 at 10:28pm
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She is an awesome big sister. I feel so sorry for her at the moment because of all the time i spend with Jayde (an hour and a half to feed). She used to get really concerned saying "she alright, Shayde alright?)
Now she ignores her crying most of the time. Which is good because i was wondering how bad it was upsetting Lissy. ------------- Jayde 25/12/04 Alyssa 08/04/03 http://Alyayde.bebo.com |
Posted By: Maya
Date Posted: 25 March 2005 at 9:23am
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I'm glad you got some answers. It is really hard whenyou feel like you aren't ebing listened to. Bt fingers crossed the reflux medicine will work and you won't have to go down the Pepti Jnr road. But it's not so bad if you do. If for any reason I need to formula feed my next child they will probably put him/her straight on PJ just in case because Maya has had so many problems.
Good luck with the reflux meds. ------------- Maya Grace (28/02/03)
(02/01/06)
The Gremlins:Sienna Marie & Mercedes Kailah (14/10/06)
Lil miss:Chiara Louise Chloe (09/07/08)
Her ladyship:Rosalia Sophie Anais (18/06/12)
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Posted By: daikini
Date Posted: 25 March 2005 at 2:44pm
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Oh, boy, what a mission you've been through to get those answers. I'm glad to hear that the appropriate people are FINALLY listening to you... good luck with the reflux meds, and I hope that you and Jayde start enjoying breastfeeding again. ------------- Becca, mum of 2 girls & 3 boys |
Posted By: AlyAyde
Date Posted: 25 March 2005 at 3:02pm
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Well plus side today feeds are going much better. On the downside took Jayde into A&E as she has yellow/green discharge from her vagina. The doctor said looks like urine infection (linked to her not feeding well) but as per usual Jayde being normal happy self doesnt present symptoms, ie temp, crying etc. SO they have taken cultures and will get back to us tomorrow to let us know either way if she needs antibiotics or not. Im sure everything is linked but i guess we just have to nail down what her problem is. ------------- Jayde 25/12/04 Alyssa 08/04/03 http://Alyayde.bebo.com |
Posted By: Maya
Date Posted: 25 March 2005 at 3:19pm
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I guess it's true - if it ain't one thing it's another! I really hope things are on the way to being sorted for you guys coz it has been a hard road for you. ------------- Maya Grace (28/02/03)
(02/01/06)
The Gremlins:Sienna Marie & Mercedes Kailah (14/10/06)
Lil miss:Chiara Louise Chloe (09/07/08)
Her ladyship:Rosalia Sophie Anais (18/06/12)
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Posted By: nikkitheknitter
Date Posted: 26 March 2005 at 8:56am
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well, from here on in it should get better and better!!!
hang in there you are doing really well with all this, I admire your strength
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Posted By: AlyAyde
Date Posted: 01 June 2005 at 9:06am
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Just a wee update on Jayde. Since last thurday her feeds have gone downhill again. Screaming arching etc. anyway e-mailed her paed and she spoke to a gastroenterologist at Starshiip Hospital who suggested Jayde go up to 15 mg of losec a day. Also has booked her in at starship for a gastroscopy. Scary stuff, but there is a long waiting list so hopefully things have resolved by the time we get that far down the road. Also we are going to go off breastfeeding for a week and have her totally on pepti. As there may be something coming through my breastmilk??? I know im probably grasping at straws but who knows right. So going to be like a cow for a week and hooked up to my pumping machine. ------------- Jayde 25/12/04 Alyssa 08/04/03 http://Alyayde.bebo.com |
Posted By: Maya
Date Posted: 01 June 2005 at 8:03pm
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That could be right tho Maria, Maya didn't grow at all on breastmilk yet as soon as she started on the Pepti her weight started going up. They seemed to think that traces of milk, egg and soya were getting to Maya thru my milk and upseting her digestive system.
I hope you don't have to go thru a gastroscopy, but they aren't so scary. I had one when I was 16, and it was unpleasant, but over really quickly. It woul dbe hard to watch your child go thru tho, I remember when they had to put a feeding tube into Maya I was such a wreck. But hopefully Jayde will improve and not need the gastroscopy. How were the results of her RAST tests etc.? Have they identified any specific allergies? ------------- Maya Grace (28/02/03)
(02/01/06)
The Gremlins:Sienna Marie & Mercedes Kailah (14/10/06)
Lil miss:Chiara Louise Chloe (09/07/08)
Her ladyship:Rosalia Sophie Anais (18/06/12)
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Posted By: AlyAyde
Date Posted: 01 June 2005 at 9:47pm
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Rast came back normal. So nothing really to go on there. ------------- Jayde 25/12/04 Alyssa 08/04/03 http://Alyayde.bebo.com |
Posted By: AlyAyde
Date Posted: 18 June 2005 at 8:22am
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Paed nurse came out on thursday and weighed Jayde. Been two weeks. She had only put on 60gms in two weeks. I just bawled my eyes out. Things are so tough at the moment. Its soooo hard to get her to have any milk. So only thing we can do now is wait for starship. Unfortunately i dont know anyone that works there so cant get speed through the system like here. So will just have to wait. We would go private but Starship are the best dealing with kids and going under G.A. you want the best. Oh well better go. Lissy sick at the moment. I think Jayde is getting it. Will make feeding worse no doubt. ------------- Jayde 25/12/04 Alyssa 08/04/03 http://Alyayde.bebo.com |
Posted By: Xander&Harmony
Date Posted: 18 June 2005 at 9:12am
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Man U are having a hard time of it lately.Hope u get seen by starship soon. ------------- BECS http://www.sparklee.com">
Angel Baby 10/07/09 (10wks4days) |
Posted By: lizzle
Date Posted: 18 June 2005 at 10:33am
| good luck angelNZ, Gosh, it must be tough for you! |
Posted By: Donna.I
Date Posted: 18 June 2005 at 5:27pm
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Hi, I too have gone through the anguish of poor weight gain in my two youngest. At the age of nine months they were failure to thrive. Hannah was losing weight (now 6yrs), so was placed on a calorie supplement. It helped maintain her weight, but little to no gains. She was my biggest baby, nine pounds nine ounces, had maintained a healthy weight till seven months. By a year old she was so petite, and still is. It took surgery in the end to help her, and medications (my children are extreem cases though).
Often finding the right medication and dose for Reflux helps. Sometimes one medication on it's own is not enough. I tried many things to try and help my kids, checking for food allergies too. We all want to do whatever possible for our children, go to any lengths. You are doing just what any parent in your situation would do. ------------- Donna Ingram Co-ordinator Gastric Reflux Aide mailto:info@gastricreflux.org - info@gastricreflux.org http://www.gastricreflux.org - www.gastricreflux.org |
Posted By: mum2paris
Date Posted: 19 June 2005 at 3:09pm
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Maria i hope thing get better for you soon. i had probs with Paris but the pale in comparrison to what you are going through. I do remember having my fair share of times when plunket had visited and weighed her.. and once they were gone I did the same as you. It really sucks. Good luck with starship - my little sis went there for her hips, they were wonderful. ------------- Janine and her 2 cool chicks, Paris & Ayja
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Posted By: Maya
Date Posted: 20 June 2005 at 8:01pm
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Starship were great when Maya was there (apart from the emergency department who tried to send her home when she was so sick she ended up being admitted for 7 nights).
I really really hope you get some answers, and get a break soon. It is so tough when your baby is sick, must be even harder with Alyssa as well. Do you get respite care? You would definitely qualify for it if it was something you wanted. We had it with Maya, where the Ministry of Health pays someone to look after her for the equivalent of 28 days a year (or less depending on need). I had a friend look after her which was great for my friend who needed the cash, but also gave me a break to rest as I was feeding hourly all day and all night. Your Plunket nurse should be able to let you know who to contact about it in your area if you're interested. ------------- Maya Grace (28/02/03)
(02/01/06)
The Gremlins:Sienna Marie & Mercedes Kailah (14/10/06)
Lil miss:Chiara Louise Chloe (09/07/08)
Her ladyship:Rosalia Sophie Anais (18/06/12)
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Posted By: AlyAyde
Date Posted: 21 June 2005 at 3:48pm
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I wrote a reply to you this morning Emma then lost it and didnt have time to repost. I dont think im entitled to anything as the paed doesnt think Jayde is entitled to the disabilty allowance as they are only ment to get it if problem longer than 12 months. I dont think i could use respite care for her anyway as she drinks best for me. Thanks though. ------------- Jayde 25/12/04 Alyssa 08/04/03 http://Alyayde.bebo.com |
Posted By: Maya
Date Posted: 23 June 2005 at 11:03am
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But if she has a dairy allergy/intolerance that will probably last longer than six months? Our GP filled in the form for Maya to get the Child Disability allowance until she is 3 (2006) and if she outgrows her allergies before then I just have to let them know. You should push to get it coz every little bit helps. ------------- Maya Grace (28/02/03)
(02/01/06)
The Gremlins:Sienna Marie & Mercedes Kailah (14/10/06)
Lil miss:Chiara Louise Chloe (09/07/08)
Her ladyship:Rosalia Sophie Anais (18/06/12)
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Posted By: AlyAyde
Date Posted: 23 June 2005 at 12:28pm
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Paed said if she gets auditied then she would be in trouble. Its okay we are coping. Nurse came out today Jayde put on 140gms in a week better than last weeks 60gms in 2 weeks. Nurse also thinks it might be good to give neocate a go. So will see what paed says to that. ------------- Jayde 25/12/04 Alyssa 08/04/03 http://Alyayde.bebo.com |
Posted By: Donna.I
Date Posted: 24 June 2005 at 1:54pm
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Good gain :o)
Keep us posted as things go. Peace :o) Donna ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ "Don't let your past dictate who you are, but let it be part of who you will become." ------------- Donna Ingram Co-ordinator Gastric Reflux Aide mailto:info@gastricreflux.org - info@gastricreflux.org http://www.gastricreflux.org - www.gastricreflux.org |
Posted By: AlyAyde
Date Posted: 24 June 2005 at 3:09pm
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Getting sent out neocate sample. So back to the breast pump i go for a week. Have decreased her losec to 10mg as 15 didnt make much of a difference but am going to start giving her gaviscon as well (which we started on but havent used it in conjunction with anything yet). Hmmm just really grasping at straws but spoke to her paed this arvo and she is more than happy for us to try things and see if they work. ------------- Jayde 25/12/04 Alyssa 08/04/03 http://Alyayde.bebo.com |
Posted By: AlyAyde
Date Posted: 27 June 2005 at 8:20pm
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Hi all, I phoned Jaydes paed this morning (im so glad she is sooo understanding and fantastic) Anyway asked if it was possible to get her feed with a naso gastric tube for a week just to give us both a break. She agreed and said it was something that she had been discussing with the nurse that comes out to check Jayde every week anyway. So that is getting done on wednesday. I also phoned starship thismorning and left a message on their AP re Jaydes appointment. It might be something i do weekly until they get so sick of me that they give me an apt.
------------- Jayde 25/12/04 Alyssa 08/04/03 http://Alyayde.bebo.com |
Posted By: Maya
Date Posted: 28 June 2005 at 2:09pm
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We did the naso gastric tube with Maya and it was horrible to watch, but it does get results - with her she couldn't keep anything she swallowes down, but she managed to keep the fluids down when they were fed by tube. Good luck!
And definitely hassle Starship, I would ring once a day if need be. Eventually they will get sick of you and give you an appointment. With Maya I got so sick of being fobbed off that I went and sat in the Emergency Department and refused to leave until they admitted her. She saw a paediatrician for the first time the next morning and he couldn't believe that the other doctors in the ED had let things get so bad before they finally gave in and admitted her. ------------- Maya Grace (28/02/03)
(02/01/06)
The Gremlins:Sienna Marie & Mercedes Kailah (14/10/06)
Lil miss:Chiara Louise Chloe (09/07/08)
Her ladyship:Rosalia Sophie Anais (18/06/12)
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Posted By: nikkitheknitter
Date Posted: 28 June 2005 at 4:17pm
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woah, it sounds like such a huge hassel to get your babies sorted out! that's horrible!
why do they not take anyone seriously? are there long waiting lists or are they just skeptical about what mothers say about their children's health? |
Posted By: Maya
Date Posted: 29 June 2005 at 5:45pm
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Overworked, underpaid blah blah blah. Definitely not voting Labour in the next election! ------------- Maya Grace (28/02/03)
(02/01/06)
The Gremlins:Sienna Marie & Mercedes Kailah (14/10/06)
Lil miss:Chiara Louise Chloe (09/07/08)
Her ladyship:Rosalia Sophie Anais (18/06/12)
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Posted By: AlyAyde
Date Posted: 29 June 2005 at 7:00pm
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Ive rang starship every day. Phoned 3 times today. No body has phoned me yet. Well thats a lie a lady phoned me today only to realise she had the wrong person. Grr. She promised to phone me back when she had dealt with this "urgent" person. Didnt hear from her so phoned this afternoon only to be told by her that she would get back to me by the end of the day. NOPE grrrrrrr. So will phone tomorrow again. At least this afternoon i found an 0800 number so our phone bill wont be that huge. Jayde had her tube fitted today. Was really upset at first but okay now ------------- Jayde 25/12/04 Alyssa 08/04/03 http://Alyayde.bebo.com |
Posted By: newmum
Date Posted: 30 June 2005 at 10:06am
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Oh man angelnz I can't believe it!! How can they be so slack?? It must be really hard on you all. I hope that it gets sorted out asap!!
Keep your head up! We are all thinking of you!! ------------- http://lilypie.com"> 
http://lilypie.com"> 
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Posted By: lou
Date Posted: 01 July 2005 at 8:11am
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It sounds like you are coping so well. I would be going completely nuts by now if I was you ------------- Mother to two beautiful children - Sophie age 6 and Ephraim age 4 |
Posted By: lizzle
Date Posted: 01 July 2005 at 5:38pm
| I just don't understand how we can pay rugby players thousands of dollars for kicking a stupid ball around, yet we can't emplooy enough nurses so that our children can be seen when they are sick. (my husband is now loking at me like I'm being blasphemous) |
Posted By: AlyAyde
Date Posted: 12 July 2005 at 5:55pm
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Just to let you all know. Had a phone call from starship today. Jayde having pre op on 19th, gastroscopy on the 20th. ------------- Jayde 25/12/04 Alyssa 08/04/03 http://Alyayde.bebo.com |