Stupid mother-in-law tricks (long + grrr)
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Topic: Stupid mother-in-law tricks (long + grrr)
Posted By: Katherine
Subject: Stupid mother-in-law tricks (long + grrr)
Date Posted: 27 April 2007 at 10:07pm
Does anyone else feel like their MIL isn't interested in their child, or favours their other grandkid(s) over your littlies?
My birthday was two weekends ago, and DH rang to ask her if she could look after Emma Rose so he could take me out to dinner. MIL said she didn't think so, because her kitchen is being renovated (for the third time in a year) and she didn't think it would be a good idea to have Em there because of the dust, etc. She also said she couldn't come over to our place to babysit.
Fortunately, DH's aunt and uncle, who live around the corner from us, were happy to have Em. In fact, they *always* babysit her. MIL has only looked after Em twice in the entire 14 months of her young life.
Birthday night arrives and we turn up at Auntie and Uncle's house, baby in tow, to find... MIL and FIL, who have come over for dinner. (In our family, people regularly turn up uninvited for dinner, and are usually welcomed, because they always bring booze.) They apparently had just arrived and had also just heard that Auntie and Uncle were babysitting their grandchild, since MIL was "unavailable".
I've been sitting on this for two weeks and I'm not sure what annoys me more, the fact that MIL couldn't come to our house to babysit but she could come to Auntie and Uncle's for dinner, or the fact that she never seems to want to spend any time with my child.
I have tried SO HARD to build a bridge between MIL and my child. I even went to the trouble of inviting her to a special girls-only tea at Cornwall Park, dressed Em in her finest and wore a plastic tiara in public, all in the name of bonding. I bought a fancy $40 photo frame and regularly give MIL photos of Emma to put in "your special frame", yet I've never seen it on display anywhere in her house. I've encouraged DH to visit his mother with my baby, so they can have their own bonding time without me (and MIL can play Mum to both of them, if she wants to -- isn't that what all grandmothers want? To get their hands on the baby without the mother around?).
I've swallowed my annoyance and visited her non-childproofed home and managed to keep Em's curious mitts off the various priceless antiques and expensive knick-knacks that clutter her dangerous low tables. I've analysed this topic endlessly over the phone to my own mother and taken on board all her suggestions about how I can be a dutiful daughter-in-law. I even make a point to say, in all my thank-you cards and conversations with MIL, how I really want Em to know her better, since I never got to spend a lot of time with my grandparents (two of whom died after I moved here, and whose funerals I couldn't even attend because of the distance). But all I get is a lukewarm response.
What's left? It's gotten so obvious, one of DH's other uncles even told MIL off for never talking about Em, but mentioning her grandson ad nauseum. The aunties and uncles initiate hesitant conversations with me about why I think MIL doesn't want to be around my child. I try to laugh it off and pretend I don't notice, but the reality is, my heart is bleeding for Em. She doesn't even know. But what happens when she is old enough to see what's going on?
How would you deal with this?
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Posted By: MILF
Date Posted: 27 April 2007 at 10:14pm
honestly? i would cut the mil out completely, before emma has a chance to know her and miss her. She is far better off not to have a relationship with a grandmother that is not interested, than she is to have a relationship and never feel good enough, but not be sure why.
Its a really hard situation, poor wee girl. good on your for trying so many ways to get things sorted, but i would give up and concentrate on your family unit, and make sure that your girl spends lots of time with the family that DO want to be around her.
JMTCW
------------- Lyla - mum to
Xanthe - my big 4 year old
and
Jordis - 1 year old
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Posted By: Katherine
Date Posted: 27 April 2007 at 10:20pm
Oh xanthesmum, you have no idea how much I would love to do that... but DH's family sees each other CONSTANTLY. We vacation together. Voluntarily. For almost every holiday. I LOVE them. His aunties and uncles are fabulous, his cousins are hilarious, and when they're around, I can even stand it if Evil SIL is there, because they all think she's an idiot too. So Em is always going to see MIL at the family things, and at some point, wonder why MIL doesn't pay attention to her... and pays heaps of attention to her cousin. Sigh.
You're right, though, in what I read between the lines -- I need to stop trying so hard because I'm getting nowhere.
I think the hardest, hardest thing about all of this is my own mother is in the US and has seen Em twice since she was born, and it is driving her nuts that she can't see her more. So my MIL's rejection of Em is even more difficult, because she's being rejected by the grandmother who CAN see her whenever she wants to.
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Posted By: Bombshell
Date Posted: 27 April 2007 at 10:24pm
i know how nice you can be and i say in this case - stop it....even if just for a while...
seriously - dont call her, dont give her photos, dont go see her...STOP...and see what the response is if any....if nothing happens and she does not ask why she hasnt heard from you or seen Em then you will know for sure she is a mean B!!!! if she wants to know why she hasnt had contact etc then take that as a sign and try and work through it with her from there...I think you have been far too nice to her...time to STOP!!!
I am pleased you have the aunt and uncle tho...sometimes non family or more distant family can be closer than those who should be. I grew up close to my great aunt...closer than to my gma (her sister) and also to my aunty in usa (who is really a non relative but closer than most!)....go figure on how families work....but please dont wreck yourself over this...and one day you may just have to tell Em that you simply dont know why Gma isnt around etc....
BIG HUGS hon...
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Posted By: Bombshell
Date Posted: 27 April 2007 at 10:33pm
ah crap - just did u a HUGE pm too and lost it...
will do it again tomorrow....UGH!!!
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Posted By: Maya
Date Posted: 27 April 2007 at 11:10pm
Teehee, I'd let Emma Rose break all the antiques
Probably just as well I don't have a MIL...
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Maya Grace (28/02/03)
(02/01/06)
 The Gremlins:Sienna Marie & Mercedes Kailah (14/10/06)
Lil miss:Chiara Louise Chloe (09/07/08)
Her ladyship:Rosalia Sophie Anais (18/06/12)
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Posted By: mummy_becks
Date Posted: 27 April 2007 at 11:12pm
I have issues with mine as well. She is very 2 faced. She told my friend about 2 weeks after I had Josh that he was a baby and he'll be a grandson one day. I was like WTF!?!?!? I stopped going around there and just let DH take Andrew (he only did once) around when he needed to go and get something. I'm not giving her anything (from either child) until she stops her 2 facedness. She will learn one day. If she asks to see Em I would be saying you know where we live come and see her. DHhas done this a number of times to his mum so maybe one day they may get the hint.
------------- I was a puree feeder, forward facing, cot sleeping, pram pushing kind of Mum... and my kids survived!
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Posted By: Katherine
Date Posted: 27 April 2007 at 11:17pm
I wish there was a book I could buy her and just anonymously leave on her doorstep. Or a MIL Boot Camp I could sign her up for. (I often have fantasies about Evil SIL Boot Camp and Husband Boot Camp, and what training exercises they would have to undergo, so MIL Boot Camp is now on the list). When I was pregnant, I actually ripped out an article in a magazine at the hairdresser's -- it was all about how grandparents can have good relationships with the parents of their grandchildren, and how they should avoid comparing grandkids, not be offended if their advice isn't followed, and other nuggets of wisdom. I kept it in my handbag for a whole year, trying to work up the courage to give it to her, and finally threw it away as it was so wrinkled and beat-up-looking! Man, do I feel like a doormat.
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Posted By: Maya
Date Posted: 27 April 2007 at 11:26pm
So now I know why you are so keen to have the grandparent books to review... I have a couple here
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Maya Grace (28/02/03)
(02/01/06)
 The Gremlins:Sienna Marie & Mercedes Kailah (14/10/06)
Lil miss:Chiara Louise Chloe (09/07/08)
Her ladyship:Rosalia Sophie Anais (18/06/12)
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Posted By: Jennz
Date Posted: 28 April 2007 at 12:41am
Aw you poor thing- I must admit I totally second what xanthesmum has said though, even if you do see her alot you don't have to put yourself out there for her to reject so much. Relationships need to be 50/50 and if she isn't putting in the effort then I think you need to back off. Maybe if she isn't feeling so much pressure from you she will be more inclined to see her- or maybe not, but at least you want be continually rejected by her, something Emma Rose is bound to pick up on soon enough.
When we planned on moving away from DHs parents I went and stayed with them for a few nights so they could spend some time with DD before we left. MIL spent every single night at one of her neighbours places for hours on end- we would have seen her for barely a few hours the total time I was there. I learnt my lesson though and thats the last time I went out of my way to develop that relationship. My parents fall over themselves to see DD as much as possible- thats what grandparents should be like!
I hope she pulls her head in for Emma Roses sake- and for you too, good luck with it all
------------- Jen, Charlotte 7 & Kate 3
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Posted By: AlyAyde
Date Posted: 28 April 2007 at 7:56am
That sucks. My FIL has nothing to do with us at all he hasnt even met Jayde. I used to try to find out what his problem was even sent Dh around to his house for a catch up but hes has a problem with us for some reason....... Anyhow his wife is the best!! and even though she isnt the kids bio Oma she loves them so, so much and never misses the milestones. So my kids have 3 grandmothers and no grandfathers, which is a bit sad, but i figure he is the one missing out more than them.
So stop buying your mil stuff, stop phoning her or trying to do "special" outings with her. If you see her at a family gathering be civil but dont go out of your way to hang out. Most importantly remember she isnt your mum, your mum would never do that!
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Jayde 25/12/04
Alyssa 08/04/03
http://Alyayde.bebo.com
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Posted By: SMoody
Date Posted: 28 April 2007 at 8:57am
I had one Grandma that absolutely adored her grandkids. My dad was an only child and she battled to concieve him and she adopted a girl that the parents took away again after a year before adoption was finalised.
My other grandma just had eyes for all her other grandkids and my brother. To be honest with you it hurt when he got big presents and we didnt get anything but not for that long as I got lots of love and cuddles from my other grandma that I only got to see in the beginning about 3 times a year. A lot more when they moved down where we lived.
I am sitting in a similiar situation with my daughter. My MIL love her to bits. My own mother I only told about my daughters existence when she was 9 months old. (long long long story.) I wont trust her alone with my kiddie at all. So she will only have one grandma and that will be at a far distance.
I will actually not break contact at all. Just dont ask her to babysit. Dont give photos out and dont tell her anything about her grandchild at all. Just have polite conversation about her kitchen ect. So you are keeping the relationship going for your husbands sake.
If she asks you about your girl you can tell her otherwise I will just let her have a really special bond with her other grandma.
Otherwise your kiddie is going to pick up on this friction and that is not going to be good for her.
Hope it helps. And big hugs to you.
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Posted By: SMoody
Date Posted: 28 April 2007 at 9:00am
About your mom being that far away. They can still have a special relationship. Put Skype on at both sides and make a story time once a week, where your mom can read her a story from the other side.
McKayla absolutely loves to talk to her grandma, grandpa and Oupa. She runs to the phone and computer when we say we are going to talk to them. She wants me to open the photos up and shows me who she is talking too. (so she definately still remembers them, no matter what people tell me about kids not remembering anything.)
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Posted By: Bizzy
Date Posted: 28 April 2007 at 9:01am
katherine let it go... thats my advice anyway.
maybe it is because she is so young still. i'm not too sure how old the other grandkids are tho. i know my MIL doesnt see the kids much and i wouldnt leave them there, and i think sometimes its because she doesnt know what or how to deal with them. lets face it - its been awhile since she had to play "mother". she does however have the older grandkids over to stay and sees lots of them.
my hubby thinks its because he isnt the fave family member...??!!!
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Posted By: BaAsKa
Date Posted: 28 April 2007 at 9:59am
OK so i havnt read any of the other posts as i am eager to punch down that i SOOOOOOOO know how you feel!!!!!!! iv posted a very similar thread a few months ago because my MIL just isnt interested in my son the way she is with my SILs 3 kids!! she would NOT put up photos of our son even though her house was riddles with photos of the other 3!!! and well the list goes on...SO i decided that i was going to pull my son from the situation so she wasnt able to see him anymore so Bay didnt feel so left out because he did know what was going on - i asked him one day if he wanted to go visit nana and he said "no cos nana doesnt love me shes only T*****'s (neice) nana", now that was a huge kick in the pants and got me very upset so taking him out would be best for him....so anyway we did take him out and low and behold! she did notice!! and started ringing, asking for him to go to their house and when we would go she would cuddle Bay so much that he would get anoyed! lol and she would say "i miss you so much!! i wish you could stay for longer", and when DH would go over by himself she would get all concerned as to why Bay wasnt with him and has even started asking when i am comming over to visit!! ...so after that big ramble - where we are at now is that we are still visiting in moderation but things are getting way better!!
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Posted By: peanut butter
Date Posted: 28 April 2007 at 10:01am
I wonder if like gandt says she just isnt keen on babies?
I also had a grandmother I hardly saw. I was her only grandchild and I felt all through my life that she didnt really care too much about me. She didnt get on with my mum and was basically a bit bitter and twisted. My other Nana was fabulous and I had such a close bond with her and used to spend Xmas hols with them.
It was a bit weird at my grandmothers funeral to hear from other people how much she used to talk aboutme to them.....never showed it to me. I guess it worked for her and having my Nana worked for me. A kid can cope with one granparent....thats all some have.
Just chill about it. Treat her as a friend of the families who isnt good with kids and you might feel better
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Posted By: BaAsKa
Date Posted: 28 April 2007 at 10:06am
ok so i just read the rest of the posts and they all seem to say what i ended up doing! lol and it really is working!! my MIL even comes to our house and thats a big deal cos we live with my mum!! and they do not get on!!! so yeah id say take all these ladies advice and see where it gets you. I never thought it would work with my MIL as that is just the type of person she is!! but so far so good *touch wood*!!!
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Posted By: busymum
Date Posted: 28 April 2007 at 9:08pm
Katherine honestly you have tried so very hard, bent over backwards, to get a relationship going that your MIL doesn't seem to want. I know that hurts you heaps - I also want my girls to have good relationships with their grandparents but that's quite a different story - but really, I don't think there is a single other thing you could do to make it better.
My advice would be to let the whole thing drop. If MIL really wants a relationship with Em, she'll pick it up when she's ready. But Em is young and doesn't yet know what grandmothers "should" be like - so she will adjust in her own way. In fact she'll adjust better than you ever will, because it will be a "normal" for Em - if that makes sense?
So Em will have a grandmother who is distant in miles, but as she gets older she'll be able to draw pictures for her (scan and email them, or post) and perhaps even Skype and/or MSN. And then she'll have another grandmother who is distant in relationship even though she sees a lot of her (but no two grandmas are alike anyway).... but I'm sure it will work out.
If you are really concerned about Em having a close grandma, you could always "adopt" a third grandma (just call her "Grandma Jane" or whatever, as a nickname). But I do think you need to let it drop - not in revenge but simply because there's nothing else you can do to improve the situation and it's only working you up. At least Em will have some lovely uncles and aunts - it's nice you have their support 
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Posted By: lizzle
Date Posted: 29 April 2007 at 8:49am
Katherine a while ago I posted a similar post - my in laws were favouring Taine over Jake. Lewis ended up having a chat with his parents saying that it was okay to feel closer to one than the other, but they would be cut off if they ever showed it in any way. Could hubby talk to her?
My Grandmother in law is a big b*tch about things. she makes obvious remarks about how the other grandchildren are much better than Jake (she loves Taine). Basically we stopped all voluntary contact with her. if she is there and we are too, fine, but we don't visit, we don't do anything.
What is really heartbreaking is when you talk to people, a lot have felt that their grandparents favoured one over the other. Lewis' grandmother favoured the other kids over his side (doesn't like cook islanders), one of my step-sisers was favoured over the other (the store didn't have any presents for you T**, but here is one for you S******). it is heartwrenching to see your child feel like he/she isn\t as good as another, especially when it's by a family member, I would do whatever you need to to protect Emma Rose from that behaviiour.
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Posted By: BaAsKa
Date Posted: 29 April 2007 at 9:05am
So true Lizzle!! im very protective of Bay in this situation because it happened to me with my nana, she just absolutely refussed to include me because "i was more like my mother and she didnt like her but my sis was just like my dad". And with DH - he was the favoured one by all in his family so it took him a while to see what was happening to Bay and would often tell me i was overreacting!!! but he sees it noe and backs me 100%.
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Posted By: BaAsKa
Date Posted: 21 September 2007 at 1:33pm
BUMP!! for you buzimumto3boys
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Posted By: buzimumto3boys
Date Posted: 21 September 2007 at 2:22pm
Thanks again... geez reading this there are so many similar things everyone says!! The same probs as we have.
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