HELP I feel like hurting him
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Topic: HELP I feel like hurting him
Posted By: fattartsrock
Subject: HELP I feel like hurting him
Date Posted: 17 July 2007 at 9:18pm
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There, its out, I've said it.
I've posted long and plenty about the sleeping dramas I have had with my little insomniac. We have done ABSOLUTELY everything, including "sedation" and we just can't get him to sleep through the night. Unfortunately, we have a "crutch" in the picture, which has made a huge rod for my back, especially in the past few weeks that I have been descending into madness. After I had Charlotte, we had been giving him milk to help him get back to sleep, rather than let him cry, as I found it was disturbing her, and to br frank, I was sleep deprived enough. I was thinking at the worst, I will have to get up once or twice a night (which I had been anyway) and if I can just get him a bottle, it saves the sotthing/shushing/arguing thing. Howerver. The last 2 weeks or so, he has been waking every 2 hours or so, building up to last night, which started at 8.30 pm, and ended at 4.30am where we gave in and gave him a bottle and all got about 2.5 hours sleep. The thing is the screaming. It is hysterical screaming which winds up so bad the neighbours worry about it, and that stresses me out more. Last night was the straw that broke the camels back, I just cried and screamed at him and raged and shook him and I really really really wanted to hit him, I was so angry and tired and desperate. I didn't hit him, but I was visualising it in my head which frightend me alot. In the cold light of (a very tiring) day, I realised we have to break the milk/sleep association, so this arvo, for his sleep, I gave him a milk on the couch and a story and he went to bed no worries without a bottle. Tonight was a different story. We did the bottle onthe couch and the story and we went to bed but as we approached the bed, the hysteria started. I out him in bed and firmly told him that he had had the bottle onthe couch and now he was going to bed like a big boy with teddy to help him sleep. He screamed for about 10 mins and then got out of bed and bashed on his door, sobbing his little heart out. I put him back into bed and told him not to get out again (and usually he is very good about that) so he screamed and screamed for AN HOUR. When I finally gave in and went in, there were all these wet patches on the carpet where the little man had obviously been lying and sobbing his heart out about his horrible b!tch of a mother. I ended up giving in and geting the damn bottle. my stomach was in knots for the whole hour of the screaming and now I am dreading the night time as he wakes charlotte as well, and gets even worse when Rod goes in to him. I am at the end of my tether. My usually well behaved child is a demon at night time and I really am starting to dislike him and resent him (I am sooo tired I just cannot describe it, I haven't slept a full night in over 2 years) and this wanting to hurt him thing is freaking me out and I don't know what to do. My Dr won't help he says he is an insomniac and I just have to suck it up, basically, and plunket can't do anything more. I have put rescue remedy night time on his bottle and hope it buys me a bit more time, but i know I am dealing with habit here as well. Ah hell, I just feel desperate and sad and I don't want to be a mum anymore.  ------------- The Honest Un PC Parent of 2, usually stuck in the naughty corner! :P |
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Posted By: MILF
Date Posted: 17 July 2007 at 9:46pm
i dont have anything else to offer but 
is there anyone who can maybe have jacob for a few nights, in an attempt to break the association with mum/dad/bed/bottle??? ------------- Lyla - mum to Xanthe -  my big 4 year old
and Jordis - 1 year old 
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Posted By: deharn
Date Posted: 17 July 2007 at 9:48pm
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Ohh you poor bugger! Where's that Super Nanny Jo Frost when you need her - under the damn table eating Continental Pasta and Sauce..........
The key to habit breaking as you no doubt know is consitancy. I know how hard it is when you are tired though and your heart breaks when they are upset. Do remember though that you certainly are not a bad mum for having those feelings of desperation and anger. So completely understandable and pretty normal, I think you would be hard pushed to find any mum who hasn't been at that point. I don't have any profound thoughts on what to do, but I am sure as this is read by other's their heart will go out to you too and the tips will come flooding in.  Take care!
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Posted By: Paws
Date Posted: 17 July 2007 at 9:49pm
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If you are feeling like hurting him then I would definetly get into your doctor. It's not a good place to be for any of you but considering how you are feeling then the doctor must be able to do something to help. If that one can't then you go to one who will.
Big hugs to you. ------------- http://lilypie.com"> 
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Posted By: AnnC
Date Posted: 17 July 2007 at 9:53pm
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first things first a great big Hug
I know you are not the only one who has felt like this but probably one of the few who would admit to it. My first born was terrible sleeper. It wasn't a bottle he wanted just me. I know it was me who got him in the habit wanting to come into my bed but when I tried to break the habit it was a long and fustration process. I hear you saying alot 'give in to him' you did the hard work. You need to not give in to him as he will continue to do it if he thinks the end result is what 'he' wants. I hate listening to my babies cry and when you see evidence of their cries (wet patches on the floor) it makes you feel worse. honestly he will still love you in the morning and for the rest of his life after you get tough with him. Perhaps you should read him a book and a bottle in bed rather than the couch? I know I use to make bedtime a quiet relaxing time away from distractions. Does he get upset if you are in the room? or is it just when you go out? what I did with my daughter round your sons age as she started not wanting to go to sleep by herself was sit in the room away from her bed and every time she'd look up I would say 'I'm still here' then move away a bit more, and every time I she would look I would say once again 'I am stll here' I had to do this for around a week but after that she never looked up. and slept better - although she didn't wake during the night but you could still do this. i know it is a long and tiring process but it did work and would be worth it in the end for you if it did work. I did not cuddle her or pick her up as i was trying to get her to sleep with out my touch. ETA: hope you followed that? ------------- Ann 
Also Mum to Josh (15) and Brooke (10) |
Posted By: Mazzy
Date Posted: 17 July 2007 at 9:57pm
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Oh hon. I have no advice, I'm so sorry, and am too far away to offer practical help, but you have my sympathy and .
You are not a bad mother. You are not a bad person. You are in an extremely hard situation. Can you call anyone to talk it all through? Even just having a good chat and releasing all that emotion can help. Is there anyone that can come and stay for a night or two and help break the habit? Can you afford to pay someone to do it? Someone else will have better advice than me I'm sure, but I wanted you to know I hear your desperation and sadness. You are a strong woman to have the courage to get that out in the open. |
Posted By: Leish
Date Posted: 17 July 2007 at 10:01pm
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Oh Annie I'm so sorry that you are going through this at the moment. I don't have anything to offer except that. I'm sorry. I really hope that you find some help or the right kind of advice to get you through the now. You are a great mum doing a great job and like Ann said - he will still love you in the morning. ------------- http://lilypie.com">  http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: mummy_becks
Date Posted: 17 July 2007 at 10:04pm
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Annie, you are not and bad person or mum. We had this battles (not as bad as that) with Andrew and we found having a story and bottle in bed made things a lot easier for him to stay there and go to sleep. Def go back to the dr if not for Jacob for yourself and see if they can help you out this time. ------------- I was a puree feeder, forward facing, cot sleeping, pram pushing kind of Mum... and my kids survived! |
Posted By: Rachael21
Date Posted: 17 July 2007 at 10:09pm
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I could have easily written this thread myself I have come so close to hitting him so u are deffinately not alone.
Sorry I don't have any ideas for getting him to sleep except is there a sleep therapist or anything u could try. I was a terrible sleeper and my parents took me to a sleep therapist and that got me sleeping. |
Posted By: AlyAyde
Date Posted: 17 July 2007 at 10:10pm
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Oh Annie You are so not a bitch of a mother.
However you decide to approach the situation you have to be consistant. It will be really tough for the first 3 nights but will get better. If you an Charlotte could go away for a couple of nights? and let Rod deal with him? Have a plan in place. He might even be able to sleep though the tantrum. He is also of an age where you can explain things to him before bed. Say this is what we are doing and if you are good blah blah blah. Sticker chart incentive and trip to $2 shop or money..... Whatever his currency is it might even be a trip to the park. You know if you say this waking mummy up at night is making me to tired to take you to lollipops etc. Im sorry that things are rough. I hope they get better real soon xxoo ------------- Jayde 25/12/04 Alyssa 08/04/03 http://Alyayde.bebo.com |
Posted By: AnnC
Date Posted: 17 July 2007 at 10:18pm
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oh I like what Alyayde suggested - Sticker chart. These worked wonders with my son - used it for toilet training, bed sleeping (I forgot about that).
So many sticker = treat. make it like 2 stickers at first as he will lose interest if he doesn't get any where. He is old enough to understand things and once he gets that all important 1 sticker - he'll want more (its gettig the first one that could be the toughie) You could even make it special and go to the shops and let him pick the sticker he gets and coloured paper that it will get stuck to, put it on his bedroom wall/door so he can see it. ------------- Ann
Also Mum to Josh (15) and Brooke (10) |
Posted By: Kels
Date Posted: 17 July 2007 at 10:18pm
 Bigs hun. Sorry I dont have any words of wisdom. You are noway near a bad mother, many a mum has felt this way me included. I hope things get better for you soon. ------------- http://lilypie.com"> 
Busy mum to Miss 15yrs, Miss 10yrs and Master 4yrs |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 17 July 2007 at 10:43pm
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You are not a bad person. You are not a bad mum, and you are certainly not a horrible bitch. I second Paws suggestion - go to a doctor who will listen, and screw the other guy. PM me if you need to vent, I can flick you my contact details.
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Posted By: james
Date Posted: 17 July 2007 at 10:54pm
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hunny i too have a little poppy bum whpo still not sleeping thur i,m to scared to cut out his bottles though so you are a brave woman big hugs hunn you are not a bad mum just a very tried and irratated one give a nother doc ago and if you just cant take it take yourself away go outside if you have too again big hugs hunn your not the only one who has thought of hurting her baby ------------- <a href="http://lilypie.com"><img src="http://b4.lilypie.com/nLJ5p13.png" alt="Lilypie 4th Birthday Ticker" border="0" /></a> |
Posted By: nuttymama
Date Posted: 18 July 2007 at 6:48am
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First up you are sooooo not a bad Mother. . I can tell you now there are plenty of us that have been where you are and the point you have to remember is you didn't hit him, which is what makes you stand apart from a "bad Mother".
My first Micheal was a nightmare at night. He would sleep until 10-30pm and them stay up until 5-30am. Out of desperation I started putting him in my bed which only helped a little and I ended up with him in our bed until he was four!! I then fell pregnant and we had to wean him away, which consisted of putting a bed in our room for a while and then moving it out. What a nightmare. Abby is 2.5 and was waking frequently and would not go down by herself we had the screaming until she threw up etc she was also waking up several times for a bottle. I know how distressing and stressful it can be. When I felt I was reaching breaking point I would walk out and get DH to go in for a while. We tried what Ann C said we sat in the room away from the bed etc we did this for a month and had mixed success and then I decided enough was enough and started putting her down on her own. We gave her a sticker chart and did one for the boys, she got really caught up in watching them put their stickers on and getting a treat (even if you made a fake one up for your wee girl) that we told her if she stayed in bed and slept all night she would get one. I didn't think it would work due to her age but after four days of sobbing and screaming etc she now goes down on her own and most importantly 9 times out of 10 sleeps all night and in her own bed. She loves the sticker chart and we heaped lots and lots of praise on her in the morning. If he continues I would go to a different doctor and ask for help. I know my sister had a lady come around for a month and put her daughter to bed to break the cycle like someone else suggested. I feel like I'm rambling but I want you to know there is light at the end of the tunnel. I really hope you had a better night last night. YOU ARE A WONDERFUL MOTHER. ------------- Abigail 06/01/2005 Jayden 21/11/2001 Micheal 03/04/1997 |
Posted By: AlyAyde
Date Posted: 18 July 2007 at 7:39am
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Hey Annie, I also wanted to say, Just explain to the neighbours what you are going to do. So that you dont have to worry about what they are thinking.
I am wondering if you have tried a night light? If he is good for his day sleeps then really praise it... "oh mummy loves it so much when you go to bed like this and sleep so well, we are going to do something special now" or sticker or whatever ------------- Jayde 25/12/04 Alyssa 08/04/03 http://Alyayde.bebo.com |
Posted By: aimeejoy
Date Posted: 18 July 2007 at 9:26am
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Big hugs Annie - you are a great mum and doing a wonderful job.
Only suggestion I have is trying to find a nanny to come and stay with you for a week to help you sort Jacob out. One of my friends did this and I think it was the best thing they ever did - it was quite pricey but for the sanity I think it was worth it. If you want me to find out how she found someone just let me know. ------------- Aimee Hannah 22/10/05 Greer 11/02/08 |
Posted By: daikini
Date Posted: 18 July 2007 at 10:03am
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Having just lost the plot with my 2yo, I understand how angry and frustrated and upset you must feel. It's not nice, but it is not a reflection on who you are but rather how tough the circumstances are that you are finding yourself in right now.
Annie
No advice, but lots of sympathy. ------------- Becca, mum of 2 girls & 3 boys |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 18 July 2007 at 10:22am
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I want to start with a huge I suggest that you need to see your doc and actually tell them your feelings! make sure they know exaclty what is happening and what you are feeling!
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Posted By: fabians mum
Date Posted: 18 July 2007 at 10:29am
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I have been in that situation myself MANY a time and am still going throught it noew, Fabian wakes every night and I do the giving in thing and he jumps in bed with me I can't stand the crying either, it breaks my heart, I have let him cry before and he just doesn't stop - my bad obviously.
I have not slept through the night for about 2 years so I totally sympathise with u matey, I am going to start the "not getting up to him" thing soon - just getting round to it! I hope everything works out for u - my problem too is that my little monkey is a total mummies boy and only mummy will do, so daddy can't help! Best of luck and I hope I'll have a good news for u from me ! ------------- http://www.baby-gaga.com/"> 
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Posted By: 11111
Date Posted: 18 July 2007 at 10:44am
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Oh my I am not the only one we don't have a bottle issue anymore our's his he wake's and come's to our bewd the trouble is we have no idea he is there till well into the night. He did this last night and waited till he went to sleep to put him back and what do you know he woke the min i lay him in his bed. I tried to leave him in his room with Mikey he screamed for an hour till I gave in and he came to bed with me. Annie you are not a bad Mum I think you are a great Mum. And I want to say thankyou so much for being so honest about how you have been feeling i have been feeling like this with Alan all the time as well. I womder if it all a 2 year old thing cuase my littel man is usually so good.
------------- Deborah Mum to:   
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Posted By: MILF
Date Posted: 18 July 2007 at 10:57am
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annie i have made contact with someone who might have some ideas to be able to help put plans in place to get jacob to sleeo better. can you pm me your email address so i can pass it alon?
hope you are feelin ok today too. ------------- Lyla - mum to Xanthe - my big 4 year old
and Jordis - 1 year old
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Posted By: jack_&_charli
Date Posted: 18 July 2007 at 11:14am
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oh annie!!! you've made me cry hun!
i will also admit to getting to the point of exhaustion/frustration and almost hurting my kids. it's easy to do but hard to admit. you are definately NOT a bitch or a bad mother, if you were, you would've hit him and not been bothered by it and you wouldn't be here asking for help! i would also try talking to another dr or a homeopath and make sure they listen and understand how bad the situation is. jack still has a bottle in bed after his story to help him sleep.....if jacob has one in bed, does he still wake during the night for another one? i'm sorry i'm not much help hun, please take care and i hope some of the other suggestions are better than mine ------------- http://www.alternatickers.com"> 
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Posted By: fattartsrock
Date Posted: 18 July 2007 at 11:28am
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Thanks so much for all your kind words and support. We had a better night last night, and I'm not too sure if that was doen to the rescue remedy I dosed him up on or the fact he tired himself out with the screaming! He only woke once, and I was up with Charlotte at the time feeding her, so I did end up giving him 50mls of milk and more rescue remedy and prayed he wouldn't wake again, and he didn't. I was much quieter when I got up to C at 5am and didn't turn any lights on so as not to disturb him.
I had been leaving a bottle in there with some milk in the hopes that he would wake and see it and get it himself and not scream out for me, but he didn't click onto the not screaming out part, and would drink the milk, then scream out for more. Ugh. So not doing that at the mo. Am definately going to do the milk and story in bed thing, and will insitagate the star chart, although I'm not too sure if he will get it. I praised him up big time this morning for being good and not getting up last night, which he loved, so might get him a lolly later for that, after I pick him up from daycare. I am so pleased that I am not the only mum who feels or has felt this way. We have a long road ahead, but I feel better for sharing! I am going to ring plunket tomorrow and speak to my plunket nurse about this again and see if she can reccomend another Dr to go to. Once again, thanks ladies, you all rock! ------------- The Honest Un PC Parent of 2, usually stuck in the naughty corner! :P |
Posted By: nuttymama
Date Posted: 18 July 2007 at 11:40am
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I'm so please you had a better night last night. Even if you have to use the rescue remedy for a while it will soon become habit and then you will be able to stop.
Good luck with the plunket nurse tomorrow hopefully they can get you a doctor who is a little more supportive! I have my fingers crossed for you tonight. ------------- Abigail 06/01/2005 Jayden 21/11/2001 Micheal 03/04/1997 |
Posted By: james
Date Posted: 18 July 2007 at 1:57pm
YAY FOR THE BETTER NIGHT i do think its a two year old thing james use to be shuch a angle lol  and just as a matter of intrest who dignosed him as a immsommnac or is the doc just being lazy ------------- <a href="http://lilypie.com"><img src="http://b4.lilypie.com/nLJ5p13.png" alt="Lilypie 4th Birthday Ticker" border="0" /></a> |
Posted By: AndysMummy
Date Posted: 18 July 2007 at 5:08pm
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Hi Annie, I'm so glad you had a better night. I haven't been able to stop thinking about you since I read your thread last night. A sleep DVD which I ordered arrived yesterday. You've probably tried everything under the sun but I'd be happy to lend it to you just on the of chance that there might be something in there that maybe useful to you. PM me if you would like it. I haven't had a chance to watch it yet. It's the new one out from The Sleep Store. ------------- http://lilypie.com">  http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: AnnC
Date Posted: 18 July 2007 at 5:59pm
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Glad you had a better night. I am guessing once a night is doable but none a night is ideal...
You even sound so much more positive about it all today. Good luck with it all... ------------- Ann
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Posted By: lizzle
Date Posted: 18 July 2007 at 8:13pm
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hugs to you Annie - i sooo know what you mean. Jake keeps crapping in places and he knows that it is wrong. It drives me crazy and although typing this it kinda sounds funny, i've gotten sooooo crazy angry with him, i've had to walk away and calm down.
can't offer any advice re:sleep problems. i know that the lack of sleep can be a real torture. |
Posted By: Bumble
Date Posted: 18 July 2007 at 8:42pm
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Ya for the better nights sleep..
I hated the crying thing with ethan...so I invested in a pair of..... EAR MUFFS!!! You know the ones the builders etc have or get some ear plugs...Just a suggestion to help with the noise. Yes you will feel quite silly wearing them around the house (I did) but it cuts out that ear splitting wail..I still pop them on if Ethan is having a bad night.. ------------- formerly known as "Bee" Ethan ~ March 2003 Big 6 year old school boy! Micah ~ Aug 2008 ~ Smiley pants who loves telephones! |
Posted By: fattartsrock
Date Posted: 18 July 2007 at 9:27pm
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Once again, thanks guys. Bee the earmuffs would be a FANTASTIC idea (block out DH snoring as well) if I didn't have to keep alisten out for lil miss Charly.
He's already been up once tonight ggrrr  I was out doing the groceries and he was up when I got home at quarter to 9. Rod said he was pitching a fit from about 8pm. Fingers cxrossed tht it dosen't get worse. I gave him a lolly today for being a good boy and stayng in his bed quietly. When I put him in bed earlier, I told him he could have a lol lol tomorrow if he stayed n bed all night...
I feel better for venting, but not better about the situation, if you know what I mean. I guess I just have to take one day at a time. Andys mummy, you watch the dvd and tell me if its any good... Thanks heaps guys you rock. And, LIZ, OMG JAKE!!!! must be a name thing. (mine at least keeps it in the bath or his nappy..) ------------- The Honest Un PC Parent of 2, usually stuck in the naughty corner! :P |
Posted By: lizzle
Date Posted: 19 July 2007 at 7:56am
| okay, you may not want to encourage THIS idea at all. But when I was about three my mum got cancer and I was shipped off to my nana's to stay. I loved my nana but apparently was a bit distressed at night yelling "i want my mum" kinda thing. To keep me quiet Nana told me a story about the lolly fairy. she puts lollies under the pillow for when good boys and giorls go to sleep )so at bed time I had three poebbles to eat) and if the little boy or girl is good all night, she puts some lollies under their pillow again for the morning (so if I stayed in bed all night, nana would slip in a couple of lollies at about 4am when my grandfather got up). seemed to workj pretty well ofr me ....apparently. i remember none of this. |
Posted By: fattartsrock
Date Posted: 19 July 2007 at 2:12pm
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haha jake is a total lollie monster and I hate it when people even mention lollies to him cos he just goes on and on and on and on.... ------------- The Honest Un PC Parent of 2, usually stuck in the naughty corner! :P |
Posted By: aimeejoy
Date Posted: 19 July 2007 at 2:18pm
Just another though - have you tried emailing the sleep expert person on here? I think some of the others (ellabellame?) had success.  ------------- Aimee Hannah 22/10/05 Greer 11/02/08 |
Posted By: sparkles
Date Posted: 20 July 2007 at 9:49am
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Hi Annie
You already have my sympathy on the bad sleeping, and you certainly have my admiration for looking after two children as I know how difficult it is just having one little one. You are doing a brilliant job and it is obvious what a great Mum you are as your children are so happy and gorgeous. Sleep deprivation is hellish and like you I haven't had a good night's sleep since my munchkin was born. On top of looking after your wee ones you also have the challenge of organising your wedding so I can't even imagine how much stress you are going through. You come across as an incredibly together person and a really organised and chilled out Mum so nobody would ever guess that you are feeling stressed. Plunket told me it takes three days to make a habit and three days to break one so maybe if you take the night bottle away it is just a case of leaving Jake for those threee nights until he gets used to it, I put books around the edges of Soph's cot for her to read if she wakes up, and I leave a night light on in there. Also play her fave cds when she goes to bed to chill her out and let her know it is sleepy time. She still wakes really early but I have been letting her just play in her cot and leaving her for as long as I can. If you would like me to copy some of Soph's cds for you I can as she now gets excited about going to bed and listening to them. There is a really good remedy called 'kids calm ' available from the health shop, I rate it highly. I also spray lavender in her cot and put it in the bath, a big bottle from the pharmacy is about eight dollars. Also if you are ever in Nelson please feel free to bring Jake around for a play as they could both wear each other out! I hope things get easier for you soon and I'm sending best wishes from Soph and I xx |
Posted By: fattartsrock
Date Posted: 24 July 2007 at 7:56pm
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**UPDATE**
One of the lovely members of this community passed my details onto a lady who specialises in helping with sleep problems. I have been working, VIA phone with Tracie Martin daily since friday, and I am feeling positive that we can get on top of this. First up, I have looked at the way I am with Jake during the day. I've stopped saying NO so much and being so controlling - ie letting him do things I normally wouldn't because I hate the mess or the noise etc, and being positive with reinforcement and cuddles etc, and being "cheerful" with him when I go into him in the night. This is helpingheaps with tantrums and behaviour in general, although he is pretty good anyhow, most of the time. I have also been spending more time with him in the bedroom when I put him into bed, instead of drop and run. I have always found he goes to sleep well, its just the stayig asleep that is the problem. Tracie isn't keen on cry it out at all, which is a method I have tried with varying degrees of success, although I have often said you need balls of steel to do it. I always found I had a stomach of knots and I hated doing it (gut instinct, apparently) so I'm not doing that any more, and he seems happier. Tracie said he needs to trust that when he calls out to me, I will go to him. She put this spin on it, which gave me a lightbulb moment. How would I feel if I really needed Rodney to do someting for me, or even just a hug 'cos I had a bad dream and needed reassuring, and he didn't respond, or was short and angry with me. Also, we are working at weaning the bottle off him, and only giving it to him at bedtime and at the midnightish waking, which is the one we are slowly weaning. On friday night he got up after half an hour and wanted a bottle,a nd I wouldn't give him one. he cried and raged, and I just sat on the bed, patting his head and soothing him, and after 20 mins, he was calm and ready for sleep. I had to repeat the cycle again half an hour later, but it took only about 10 mins that time, and he slept til midnight (as usual) so we did the bottle thing and thats the one we are weaning. Anyhow, long long post, just wanted to give you an update, and to thank you all again for your wonderful support and advice, and I will keep you all posted.  ------------- The Honest Un PC Parent of 2, usually stuck in the naughty corner! :P |
Posted By: busymum
Date Posted: 24 July 2007 at 8:12pm
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Well done, sounds very positive! ------------- |
Posted By: aimeejoy
Date Posted: 25 July 2007 at 9:05am
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Yay Annie, I am so glad to hear that. Hope you get everything sorted out soon and you can start getting some sleep. ------------- Aimee Hannah 22/10/05 Greer 11/02/08 |
Posted By: nuttymama
Date Posted: 25 July 2007 at 9:53am
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I'm so glad the hear there is light at the end of the tunnel for you. You sound so positive that I have no doubt you are going to be successful. ------------- Abigail 06/01/2005 Jayden 21/11/2001 Micheal 03/04/1997 |
Posted By: jack_&_charli
Date Posted: 25 July 2007 at 10:02am
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i'm so happy things are starting to get abit better for you annie!!
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