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Posted: 29 September 2009 at 12:45am |
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We have a problem with our lad pretty much in the last 6 weeks (He is 12 weeks Friday) whereby it's very common for him to wake up and be REALLY upset like he had a bad dream. The crying or screaming is quite panicked like he woke up expecting us to be there and of course we aren't.
It's reasonably rare to be able to placate him except in the evenings where it doesn't seem so bad.
Any assistance greatly appreciated.
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Posted: 29 September 2009 at 7:32am |
Hi :)
Is 45 minutes as long as it lasts? Is it around the same time each night? My first thought is colic. Check out: this site here
Hollie had it for the first 12 weeks, it was awful. As she started getting older it became 2 out of every 3 nights, and slowly decreased from there.
Worth seeing if it might be this, because if that's the case there is a lot of info and support out there, and rest assured he will grow out of it!
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Posted: 29 September 2009 at 7:54am |
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Could also be ears? We are having these issues and have had a run of ear infections. Typically they go to sleep and then wake up an hour or so later in pain.
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Posted: 29 September 2009 at 8:30am |
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Hmm I realize now that post wasn't clear enough.
45 Minutes is a sleep cycle from what I understand. Most babies wake after that time for a few seconds and will resettle themselves. Alex doesn't. He will wake up with the symptoms mentioned above. I don't think it's ears since it seems to get better within a minute or two of being picked up. It's almost like seperation anxiety or similar. Sometimes he wakes up in pain for sure, colic, gas, acid reflux (our first 10 weeks have been a NIGHTMARE!
He is now much happier since we have him on Losec, but still the 45 minute waking up thing is persisting though not as much at the end of the day as the beginning
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Posted: 29 September 2009 at 8:47am |
Might be a habit you need to break him off? That sounds harsh when I write it since he sounds upset but I know DS got into some habits when he went onto losec after weeks of goshawful reflux coz he woke up with a fright still expecting it to hurt. I stopped picking him up and just started rubbing his chest and talking quietly to him. After a week I let him cry for abit longer (like 30 seconds longer) before going in and within 3 weeks he'd settled down and stopped waking like that. Might help? Hope you figure out what works for you 
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Posted: 29 September 2009 at 8:51am |
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Thanks Babe for the advice.
We don't pick him up and are trying the shushing technique but I can now usually tell in advance what will and won't work, but after 15 minutes of trying different things esp if he is getting more and more upset, we usually relent.
I don't shush as effectively as my wife does, I should practice more.
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Posted: 29 September 2009 at 9:04am |
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This might seem a little cheeky but is he in any kind of routine/rythym? It might help him feel more settled if he knows whats happening next. For example alot of parents swear by EASY
Eat
Activity
Sleep
You time.
I dunno...maybe he's too young for that yet :S
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Posted: 29 September 2009 at 9:05am |
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Are you still rooming in? Have you tried using white noise if your son is sleeping in a seperate room? After being in the womb for 9+ months, if he's waking up in a quiet room it may be a bit scary and very lonely.
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Posted: 29 September 2009 at 9:08am |
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my other thought would be is he swaddled?
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Posted: 29 September 2009 at 9:09am |
 networkn wrote:
I don't shush as effectively as my wife does, I should practice more. |
Don't feel bad - we wives are hardwired for shushing..... 
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Posted: 29 September 2009 at 9:10am |
Yeah a routine is a good idea and by 12 weeks I had Jake in one. Popping a little radio under his cot set to static is an easy way to get white noise. Is it only at night that he does this or is it during his naps too??
Haha hey a daddy! Hi yeah my DP wasn't very good with the shushing but now DS is older hes awesome at settling him so don't worry your time will come
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Posted: 29 September 2009 at 1:07pm |
Hey, my DD is nearly 14weeks, she did the same thing as well. I wasn't sure what it was, so I tried a number of things. One thing that in hindsight worked well enough is the radio on white noise, she seemed to need that bit of noise. My thinking on it was the same as flutterbys, it is hard to be detached when there has been constant warmth and noises for 9 months.
She still does it occasionally, but I put it down to just having a moment of needing to be near someone.
I know people are gonna say, but that will get her into a 'bad' routine, but if I want her to know that I am gonna be there for her when she needs help or is upset, then I need to start that now. I can't just decide that at age 8, or 14 that it is time to start listening to her crying, because it will be too late by then.
sorry for the wee novel  but I thought I would just put in another point of view.
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