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    Posted: 30 August 2009 at 2:23pm
Hi,

I'm keen to start doing at least one feed a day (evening/night) with expressed milk, but have no idea how to go about it and I don't want to tell the midwife as I'm not sure she'd be supportive so don't know who to get the basics from...

When should I express?
Will this mean I start to produce too much milk?
How much should I express?

My baby is only three weeks old but I quite like the idea of expressing so I can see, particularly at night, how much he takes.

Thanks
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I would express twice a day. Once in the morning and in the evening when you intend on giving bubs the EBM.

If your DH/DP will be feeding bubs while you go to bed for a longer sleep at night time I would express just before you go to bed.

Your body should produce more milk to meet the demands of your expressing. From personal experience I found it takes a few days for your milk supply to catch up with the demand.
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I do much the same, expressing most mornings, sometimes at night as well, as DH looks after DD on Saturdays while I work.

Firstly.. don't freak out if you don't manage to get much out, a breastpump is NOT an indication of how much milk you have or how much milk bubs is actually getting. Your DS is the best pump!
On the flipside, I remember being able to get 200-250mls in 10mins when DD was 3weeks.. BUT expect your milk supply to settle down around 6 weeks where you may not get out as much in one go.

In terms of how much to express, I would say that really depends on whether you are demand feeding or routine feeding. Around 3wks I used to offer perhaps 100mls at a time (demand feeding). Sometimes she would want more, sometimes less.
I did and still do just express as much as I can, sometimes thats 50mls, other ties 150mls and at 5mths we fill bottles in lots of 150mls (still demand feeding).

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Originally posted by BecM BecM wrote:

Hi,

I'm keen to start doing at least one feed a day (evening/night) with expressed milk, but have no idea how to go about it and I don't want to tell the midwife as I'm not sure she'd be supportive so don't know who to get the basics from...

When should I express?
Will this mean I start to produce too much milk?
How much should I express?

My baby is only three weeks old but I quite like the idea of expressing so I can see, particularly at night, how much he takes.

Thanks


Give La Leche a ring, they will help you!

Otherwise, here is some advice (I am a breastfeeding counsellor, accredited and liscenced, and I get paid to help mums with feeding, bottles etc etc)

Ok, morning is the best time as you are a bit more "engorged, but I would try to get a bit at the end of each feed.

DONT BE ALARMED!!! if you can't get alot or even anything out, many women can't express alot and it is by absolutely NO means an indication of your supply. Sometimes, it is just that baby is the best breast pump! I really can't stress that enough, the not getting worried thing.

A saying I have is "its a production line, not a storage warehouse!"

Also, "missing" a feed will mess around with your supply, so you need to make sure that even if DP is giving the bottle, you still need to try to express something, other wise your body will think baby dosen't need that feed and make less milk. Pumping other times during the day probably won't increase your supply enough to miss this feed without pumping anyway, IYGWIM. Each feed is "different" and your body makes your milk "different" for the need of each feed, so it is important you dont let your body think you don't need that milk.

This comment you made..

My baby is only three weeks old but I quite like the idea of expressing so I can see, particularly at night, how much he takes

Please, please PLEASE do not get hung up on MiL anount of how much baby is taking. Baby takes exactly how much they need each time, feeding often, unsettledness and other "issues" that make mums think they don't have enough milk are usually a sign of something else - usually growth spurts, wind and cluster feeding in the afternoon and evening. How much you express, like I said is NOT a reliable indicator of how much baby is taking. The BEST sign baby is getting enough is plenty of wet nappies!! You need to learn to trust your gut/instinct and baby that baby is getting enough. Little babies feed often as their tummies aren't very big at all. At 3 weeks, tummy is little bigger than a golf ball and it empties fast. (poosplosion, anyone?! lol)

My personal reccomendation is to wait just a week or so more, till you introduce the bottle, for no other reason than the way a baby sucks the bottle and the breast is vastly different and it can really truely muck up your feeding. By about 4 to 6 weeks, baby and you will probably have breastfeeding sorted out and well established and then it is considered "safe" to introduce a bottle without mucking round with your supply or babys latch and suck.
Now I am expecting a few mums to come on and say oh I introduced the bottle at x weeks and we are fine, but honestly, I see so many mums who have huge problems with latch and suck from doing this to early.
Between 6 and 10 weeks is the window to get baby used to both.

Good luck and well done,and I am sure your midwife would be supportive of you and would probably offer the same advice I have just done, she should support andhelp you which ever way you choose to feed your baby. Feel free to PM me if you want more advice, and I really hope I haven't come off as preachy, just wanted to share my knowledge.!
The Honest Un PC Parent of 2, usually stuck in the naughty corner! :P
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Now thats a great explanation Fattartsrock!! I should have left it to you!
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hahaha Im getting a fair bit of practice now! In fact in two weeks I am taking a "class" on this very thing!
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Thanks so much for the advice! Not preachy at all - just what I was after. Have given him a couple of bottles already (naughty I know) but will try and hold off until we get to six weeks.
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