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    Posted: 15 December 2009 at 10:30am
Actually I should rephrase that, does a successful pregnancy make things better?

I’m barely holding myself together right now. I’m dreading Christmas because it’s such a huge kid’s holiday. DP’s daughter has more gifts at our house from this one occasion than the 3 kids of my family would normally receive. I know because I wrapped them all. And I hate that I’m going to have to pretend I’m happy taking pictures of family togetherness when really I’m not happy at all because I know that our family is incomplete and the worst bit is that I’m the only one who feels that way. I hate that my 30th birthday is just after Christmas so for the next few weeks I get people asking me what I want for gifts, but only DP can give me what I really want a card saying ‘stop taking the pill.’

But really the hurt is ongoing. Seeing people announce the pregnancies, then their births and realizing I don’t get to have those moments when I so desperately want to have them as well. DP thinks I need counseling ‘for my loss’ but it’s not like I don’t understand why I feel like I feel. The pain is caused by my desperate urge to be a mother and not having it on the cards at the moment. And I don’t feel like anything is going to take the pain away but to become one…
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Hrmm...it never goes away, I possibly even think more about the babies that I lost now that I AM a mother. I see the girls doing things, and wonder whether those babies would be similar, or do the same things at the same time. But I am more "at peace" with those lost bubs, because I have my girls with me now and they are so worth every minute of pain and heartache I went through before they arrived.

Counselling may be an option...they may be able to come up with some ideas about how to better accept the situation FOR NOW. I remember after DH and my first m/c (my second one in 6 months) I felt a lot like you, and had to wait until DH was ready...which was after our second m/c (both pill babies). I really really hope that you don't have to go through that too. That year of waiting was agony, but I got through it with the hope that I WOULD be a mum, just not yet. The day was coming, I just had to be a bit more patient (very hard for me!!).

I don't know if this has been any help, or if I'm rambling and making things worse, but I hope that you find something that works for you to make things a wee bit easier than it is just at the moment.
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It doesn't make it all better - it just fades the hurt a little.

Having my daughter helped my heart heal in some ways, but it also makes you think - I often look at her and wonder if her sister would have had the same red hair, or if they would have liked the same foods...

Having E here has helped me because now I am a mother, and a damn good one. It helps because when my angel's birthday would have been, E's is just a few weeks later so I have something to focus on.

Nothing takes away the painful memory of what could have been, and I wouldn't want it to. It's important that I remember Charity, all the hopes I had for her, the plans I had. But her leaving also gave me a chance to give E the best of everything - I was in a much better financial situation by the time I gave birth. Sometimes I step back and look at the way I parent, and I know that the amount of effort I put in now is because I really appreciate how lucky I am.

Having another baby didn't make things better, but it did help correct the balance of Karma, and bring me acceptance.
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You know how I feel. The pregnancy (so far successful) has given me hope but it hasn't taken away the pain of my lost little ones. I just had the anniversary of my second due date and had a real weep and I'm not sure I'll ever forget those dates. Christmas is a really bad time for this sort of thing. I've had 2 horrible Christmases where I had to try and not think about who I might have been spending them with and I really don't know about this one. More hopeful I think but I'll still be sad.

As for counseling, you also know that I recommend it but it didn't work for me. BUT, I don't think you need counseling if you're just ready to be a mother and your partner doesn't agree. That kinda sounds like a cop out on his behalf to me. Not easy, but you guys need to work that one out together.
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Originally posted by minik8e minik8e wrote:

Hrmm...it never goes away, I possibly even think more about the babies that I lost now that I AM a mother. I see the girls doing things, and wonder whether those babies would be similar, or do the same things at the same time. But I am more "at peace" with those lost bubs, because I have my girls with me now and they are so worth every minute of pain and heartache I went through before they arrived.

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I feel much the same way, except I also wonder If we partly chose to have a large family (6 children) to try and compensate in some way for what we lost.
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Well DP got told today resign or we'll sack you so it looks like perhaps this miscarriage was 'for the best.'

Also means no re-training for me next year as we can't afford both of us out of work.

A fitting ending to a crappy year.
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Lemongirl, sorry to hear about your terrible year. I've followed your stroy since your first posts...

I'm going to go against the grain here and say that YES, a successful pregnancy fixed all my heart ache. My m/c did make me a headcase for the whole pregancy, but once our DD was out of me and in the real world all my craziness and pain disappeared.

Although I still talk about my first pregancy, the pain around it has gone. I'm not sure why or how, but somehow DD has 'fixed' me.

I'm so sorry to hear about your DPs work situation, let's hope that 2010 is a GREAT year for you in so many ways!

 

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lemongirl that's awful. (I don't think the miscarriage is "for the best" though. If that baby had kept going you'd be living a parallel universe, and who knows what would be going on.)

I really wanted to get pregnant again quickly. We'd been trying for 8 months anyway, then there was pregnancy, then the miscarriage. I was in the head space and emotionally ready to have a baby wanted to get on with it. I hated the idea that my march baby's due date would come round and I'd be babyless and hopeless.

I don't want this grief and loss, but as long as I have it I may as well accept it and see what I can find in the sting of it. I was gearing up for a lot of love and in miscarriage it fell flat. I can see how a new pregnancy would give me somewhere to channel it. Instead I need to process and process and process and some days feel like I am getting somewhere with it all and other days just cry cry cry. But I am determined that there is something good to be had in this miscarriage-shadow-side of the beauty of pregnancy and new life and babies. That's not a judgement on people who get pregnant quickly again! As I say, that would have been my preference too. I hope there will be a baby one day but in this CRAZY world, who knows?! The dr told me after my miscarriage I might want to wait a year or so before trying again. At the time I thought she was insane. I understand it a bit differently now.

As we often say on these forums: everyone is different. It's tricky to say exactly what I mean in a public setting, because some people get pregnant really soon after miscarriage and that helps them and that is good. Other people might have lost their chance for ever or for a while to have a baby, in which case there is really nothing to be "done" apart from in your head and heart. I am somewhere in the mix, trying to appreciate the place I find myself for what is it.

But I still hope you have a baby before tooooo long lemongirl. You'll be a great mum and you'll make and ice amazing birthday cakes for your kids :)



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in some way s yes and in some ways no for me.. Yes as i am a mother to a wonderful son and nearly to another..but both mc's esp the first one were so awful (1st one 12 weeks at scan and second one had to wait 5 days of bleeding due to holidays to find out) and everytime some stupid idiot says 'oh your babies are due at the same time' i say 'well we did try to have them at different times but we lost both those babies' ..

in my case i do think counselling would have helped as i was terrified through both pregnancies..though it has got better this time since I realised I have PND and went on meds.. it does help both bubs were due same time so its just one sad time for me...i guess i do feel that both mc'ed babies 'sent' me their brothers so that helps a little..

in your case it is compounded by the fact of the step child and also all the issues that goes with that.. and hugs to you cause you deal very well with it i dont think I would be s patient:(
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part of your "problem" is due to the fact that your partner already has a child, and this gives rise to all those "it should have been me" feelings. also i think that the fact that you seem to play a very large part in your step daughters life as opposed to your partner contributes to these bad feelings you have.

i personally dont get the whole grieving for a past pregnancy and celebrating possible due dates, but i do get having a constant reminder of what you dont have thrown in your face...

in short i think that yes once you do have your own child it will feel better. You may find that journaling helps with these feelings too. Oh and if you feel sad on christmas day dont feel that you cant just go away for a couple of mins and have a moment... you have every right!

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Hugs lemongirl - the hurt does ease but you will never forget your wee bean, even if they were only with you for a short time - they were still loved and ever so much wanted little bubs. Everyone has their own path to travel so don't let anyone tell you that you are supposed to be feeling a certain way in a certain time. If you feel like counselling or anti-d's might help - then go for it, but its not for everyone so don't be forced into anything.
Can you have a good chat with DP about how you are both feeling - I found fellas don't know quite how to act after a mc, and he might just be trying to avoid putting pressure on you.
This year has been a rough one for you - so I reckon you are definitely due a fab 2010!! .

jo1979 - omg a year!!!! It takes as long as it takes - but when your body is ready and your head is in the right place then I wish you guys the very best sticky vibes for next year.
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Yes I think it does make it better, but another pregnancy after a missed miscarriage does make you less trusting that things are progressing well especially for the first 16 weeks or so before you can feel bubs moving. I had bleeding, and the baby had a cyst in it's brain this time and ended up having 7 scans and a ER visit in the end and used my own doppler from 10 weeks to keep myself sane.

For me boxing day was my due date for my december baby, we had a quiet day with some tears, but also for the love we now have for this wee bub we are expecting in March. My good friend who I work with is due today so I don't know if I would have been able to see her everyday if I hadn't been pregnant again. I'm sure it's going to be hard enough seeing her with a wee bub soon but then it will make me more excited about seeing our march bub soon too.

I'm sure everyone has their own right time to get pregnant again for me it was straight away as I think it wouldn't have been less stressful 3,6 or even 12 months further on, maybe it would have been even worse. Right now I'm just thankful this pregnancy is going well and a healthy wee boy is due in march.

Goodluck Lemongirl when you do decide to try again, sorry it's been such a hard road for you.
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i agree after a missed mc it seems even worse if possible...prob cause of the complete shock part? I still think about my aug babies quite often and in part for me preg made it better and part it worse i think?maybe if i hadnt had another mc i might have worried less this time?
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Having Jake has not taken away the feelings of losing my baby.

It hurts less these days, but I dont think it will ever fade completely.

Like Minik8e I wonder what my little girl would have been like, would have had Jakes steely blue eyes and strawberry blonde hair. Would she have had those gorgeous dimples? Would she have crawled or sat first??? But the pang has gone iygwim, now its just sadness of a wonderful little person I will never get to meet.

Oh and it doesnt ease the fear of having subsequent babies, if anything I am more petrified now of having another mc than i was when I was pg with jake!

Hugs babe, sending you lots of good wishes for next year!


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