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Don't be scared Kandice. I've had a bit of experience with CYFS from several different angles, I was in CYFS care for a while as a kid, have been involved with them from a parents perspective with my DSD and also making a notification about a child I was concerned about a few years ago (altho in that case the child's school had already made a notification).

They won't take Kylah away from you without good reason, their main objective is to support you and your family to make it the best possible environment for Kylah. They have resources etc. to help you, they may be able to arrange couples counselling for you and DP if that's something you are interested in, and they have access to other community agencies like Family Start to help you out as well.

The only reason they would take Kylah away is if they believe she isn't safe, and even then there is a whole process that has to be followed (believe me, we couldn't MAKE them take DSD away and it wasn't for lack of trying!), and it really is a last resort.

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domestic violence is a term they use - but it does include psychological abuse which is often far worse than being hit...

Domestic violence (sometimes referred to as domestic abuse) occurs when a family member, partner or ex-partner attempts to physically or psychologically dominate another. Domestic violence often refers to violence between spouses, but can also include cohabitants and non-married intimate partners. The term "intimate partner violence" (IPV) is often used synonymously. Other terms include wife or husband beating, battering, "relationship violence", "domestic abuse", and "spousal abuse".[1] Family violence is a broader definition, often used to include child abuse, elder abuse, and other violent acts between family members.[2]


I hope you get some help out of all of this - someone is obviously concerned abot you and / or baby - many of us on here think you need to get out of this relationship and have told you this in your thread a few weeks ago.
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I think you should tell them everything that is happening and take the help that they provide. From what Emma has said it doesn't sound like they are there to "take children away". Perhaps they can provide relationship counselling etc for you. Your relationship issues may be kept seperate from Kylah at the moment but it won't be long before she is picking up on it even if its not in front of her.
I think you should see this as an opportunity to take control of the situation and resolve it. Is your DF going to be there when they come round? does he know about it?

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they won't twist it...from my experience with them(work ) they have been really good ..listening and getting help where needed.. it's really unusual for them to take the child away ..so don't worry about that..

some of the stuff he does like you said bout pulling pants down to confirm not cheating and some of the other horrible stuff he does to you really does need to stop:( as PP said even if it's not in front of Kylah she will still pick up on it soon.. if it were me.. I would tell them everything or seek help on my own.. because the situation at the moment is really awful for you all:(
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He hasnt done that in a REALLY long time and it was a one off..
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Yeah, but he shouldn't have done that at all, it shows he has no respect for you...


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.it doesn't get any better though(he's done a lot of things recently that are disrespectful and not things you should have to put up with)..it tends to get worse unless things get done:( ! Now I'm not condoning whoever told CYFS.. (just in case you thought i was) I can totally understand how much it freaks you out!
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Hun, I'm guessing you're already talking to them now, so this is a bit late, sorry (well, more likely you're waiting for the social worker who is and always will be late!! ha ha).  I used to work for them (and no, wasn't me that made the notification - I'd have talked to you about it if I had) - but all I can say is be honest, be yourself, and you'll be OK.  Please don't panic about Kylah being taken away - a baby has to be in severe danger for that to happen and from what you've said, I don't think that Kylah would fall into that category in your care.  I do worry about you though and even though you love your DF so much, I don't think he is often loving towards you and you're such a fabulous person who deserves respect and to be absolutely treasured by her partner.  You can ask the social worker to tell you what is in the notification, they are very unlikely to be able to tell you where it came from, but knowing what the concerns that were raised in it are helps you to know where CYFS are coming from with the sorts of questions they'll be asking.  They get so many of these and see all sorts of things, so try not to worry about being 'judged', even though it might feel like that's what's happening - the social worker just has a job to do, and the more questions they ask the better they understand the situation.  The social worker is there to stand up for Kylah, and you always want what's best for Kylah too, so while I know it sounds weird and you're feeling nervous about it, they're there to help you do right by your daughter and yourself, and you might find that they end up hooking you up with some support that you may appreciate.   I'll be thinking of you! 

And hey - if your meeting with them today doesn't go so well, like you forget to say things you wanted to, or want to clarify something, just ring 0508 FAMILY and ask for the social worker you met or leave them a message on their voicemail.  It's a heck of a lot easier than stewing over it all night! 

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Originally posted by KylahsMum KylahsMum wrote:

Yup, he is going to be here.. I just dont want to tell them everything and them they twist it all to make it worse than what it is and then they try to take her away, id rather die!


They won't twist it. You NEED to tell them everything, as you need to get some help. They will set up up with some family councelling,maybe?? YOU deserve a loving home for you and your daughter. The fact that you don't want to "tell them everything" suggests that maybe you are making excuses for behaviour, or blaming some of his behaviour on yourself, or there is something you would prefer to hide from people.

They are there to HELP not to whip your babies away form you!! Unless there is very defiantely some problems with the safety of your Bubbs, there is no way they will tke her away, as the best place for kids is usually with their mums!

Big hugs to you. You are sooo worth more than you think you are.
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oooh and it wasn't me, either. Also, maybe you need to talk to them on your own? You will be more honest and more like yourself if he isn't there?

Hun, I know you love him, but you deserve to be treasured...
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Kandice but like the others have said you have to be completely honest with they are there to help they rather help the parents work through things than take the kids as I think Emma said it is a last resort.

Let us know how you get on take care.




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OK, so i had the meeting with them and i am HUGELY dissapointed to find that whoever rang in and made the complaint has given them every detail that i wrote on my last post about my life and how it was time to move on.
I thought this forum was for support not for people to go and ring child youth and family on what i have spoke about. As i said the stuff about DF accusing me of cheating and telling me to do the things mentioned was A LONG TIME ago, and considering i told NOONE but you guys in that post i know exactly where the complaint has come from. I really liked this forum and found it really helpful and thought the support you guys have given me was great but i no longer feel that i can post on here and find support when i do need it as it has now made life A WHOLE lot worse for me. I dont know what to say. But cheers aye. I feel even more upset now because i thought i had found some friends in this forum..
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Hey Kandice, I am sorry that it was someone from on here that made the report, I can understand why you would no longer want to post on here.
And you have made friends on here, its only one person who has made the report.

Did you get anything useful out of the visit?

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OH... that is awkward!  I think that whoever it was who made the notification did so because they were worried for you guys though - I don't know who it was so I'm just speculating.  But even though it seems sneaky and all, it was most likely a caring thing for them to do, rather than a back-stabbing attack.  I really hope you don't quit this forum now, because I really value having you here and I'd miss you, and there's tons of people here who care about you and enjoy your on-line company! 

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I just cant believe they would do that! I mean she read out that whole post! I felt really embarrassed and it wasnt very nice actually i feel really betrayed!! i wrote that so i could clear my chest and move on with life and make things a better place for everyone involved in my life and now it has been thrown back in my face but a whole lot worse than what it was! Lets just say i wont ever make that mistake again!
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It wasnt me bug hugs and as the others have said you are a good mum
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that is awful..a real betrayal of trust:(
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