TTC for 12 months +

Really sorry BC, big hugs!

Hey Storm,

I am doing publically funded ivf thru FA in Auckland. We first saw the dr around march last year and he thought I might have endo. I had a laparoscopy/hysteroscopy in june. We were put on the waiting list for ivf just after the surgery because of low sperm count. My month for ivf was march but because of af timing I only started right at the end of march. I start injections next week after 28 days on the pill.

Thanks for your responses ladies. Sometimes it's def hard to keep a track of where everyone has been and where they are now on this journey.

I had asked my GP last year about public funding and apparently as we are unexplained secondary infertility, we have to wait 5 years. What I haven't been clear on though, is do we have to wait the 5 years before being eligible to be on the waiting list?

I am currently with Richard Fisher at FA in Auckland.

Lesley big GL with the start of your IVF from next week!! And mushroom hopefully your cycles play ball this time

Big hugs BC - just read back on the forum :(

Storm - I think you have to be eligable to go on the list (and then also meet conditions at time of treatment). So sadly a 5 year wait, but do check with your specialist! If you do any private treatment it doesn't interfere with being on the waiting list (unless you get preggers, so don't need to be on it!).

Glad you got your ivf questions answered storm. I think you've tried so hard on your own and I hope that the specialists can help you.
Not sure why I didn't have progesterone this cycle given if it had been fresh I would've. Nurse said on paper the cycle was pretty normal and all my levels were fine, lining etc. maybe it was just a embryo that wasn't destined to be as perfect as it looked. I've got a phone consult with doc Monday and will be asking about prog support as I think we need to throw what we can at it since it's our last. And since we'll have to pay for ivf next time there's a lot at stake. Dh wants to look at adoption but it's all going to cost money so that's a consideration.

Mushroom hope you get to start soon!

Mushroom, what's the 5 year wait you mentioned? I sure hope I don't have to wait that long - I'll be 40 by then. Ahhh! You know how they're doing the reshuffle thing in Auckland... whose birthday determines which clinic you go with? Baby or mum? Probably a really silly question - sorry.

Yay for starting IVF soon Lesley and Mushroom :-)

Edited by a.girl - 24 April 2014 at 4:19pm

Thanks bc :-) what's secondary infertility?

Hi everyone,

Storm, I'm really sorry to hear about your BFN Glad you are doing ok about it though - and new things to move on to which must be exciting in a way. Re: progesterone, I was on them and oestrogen tablets (a manufactured cycle) for my last FET, and have already started another manufactured cycle for the next round - I believe that I am on them to 'throw everything at it' and because I don't ovulate normally very well (or at all possibly). As red says, they aren't very fun! (my nurse calls them 'messaries' haha - read into that what you will.....). In answer to your other question, we are doing private IVF (with FA Auckland), which I think has a lot to do with how quickly we have been moved through the motions - we only saw FA for the first time in January, and after two failed Clomid attempts started the IVF process in March. Because of my DH going away, and because we are paying for everything, I have been on short protocol everything and been pushed through pretty quickly on it all. It would seem money talks, even when it comes to baby making unfortunately. I DEFINITELY went through the denial of needing IVF, and to be honest I still think that if we didn't have Italy condensing our timelines and complicating things and if we had just persevered a bit more with Clomid that it probably could have worked (we were only TTC on our own for 6 months) - but the goal is to get pregnant and as soon as possible, so IVF is the route we have taken. I was initially plagued by all the stigma surrounding and 'woe is me' and 'its not fair' and wanting to do get to do it 'naturally' and 'just like everyone else' - but now I am in the midst of it, the destination is the goal/focus; how I get there is irrelevant. I hope that, with time, you will also shed the fears and worries you have around IVF.

Mushroom - no probs haha. I have found the signatures to help me too get acquainted with who is who and where and what etc! Hope you OV'd and your cycle is playing nice.

Auntie, so pleased to hear your bleeding stopped and that you are feeling in a better headspace.

BC I am sorry to hear how things turned out, but glad you are feeling ok about it all. As others have said, a CP, even though so hard to think of it, can be a positive as at least you know that your body knows what to do. I'm left in the 'can I even 'get' pregnant?' basket at the moment, so I hope it gives you some small solace, and hopefully next time your body will be all 'hey, this thing again, I know what to do with that this time!' I understand the fear re: the next cycle too - I have it as well (especially as this will be our last FET before I pack up shop and leave NZ and my frosties here), but I guess alls we can do is try look forward and keep focussed on what comes next - easier said than done I know!

Beaker, thanks, I do too! haha. Glad to hear your cycles are behaving, I know what that feels like (my last one before we started fertility treatment was upwards of the 90 day mark!). Hopefully you get your dates soon and can start preparing for that

agirl - the birthday that they use to determine it is yours

AFM, talked to my nurses this afternoon and have dates for my next transfer - basically 2 weeks (Fri 9 May). Nothing changing apparently so I guess (and hope) that they aren't worried about anything else being wrong with me and that we are just playing embryo roulette instead. We have all top notch embies, so I truly hope this next one is a keeper!!!

Agirl secondary infertility is when a couple has already had a child but has trouble getting their next one.

Thanks for that info on progesterone red / shimma. I just get concerned that my hormones weren't strong enough. My day 21 tests have always shown high progesterone levels so maybe not. Was seeing a natural fertility lady years back and she tested it via saliva which was low and once I did the cream she have me I felt great, pms settled down etc. Who knows I'm probably worrying about nothing. Dh is def keen for prog support as he doesn't want it to get a few weeks in and lose it (his mum had something like 13 mc's to have her 4 kids)
Shimma great you've got a date to work on. I know what you mean about the 'can I even get pregnant' thing as I've felt like that in the past. It is a small comfort to know my body can do it. Argh such mixed feelings!
Red cool you're almost done with the messaries!
BG I really hope clomid does the trick hun.

Storm and BC, so so sorry for your losses.

My HCG is 25 today, which is only slightly up on 19 but I am also only 14 days post fertilisaton. Don't know what to think really, it seems for the first time ever I am UTD, but my brain keeps sticking it's fingers in it's ears and singing. Which is probably a good thing cos it's still completely early days. Another test on Monday, we'll see.

Am wayyy less mental, though I DID wake up at 4am and do a HPT. which was very, very, very faintly postive. But that was only because I was dreaming of prgnancy testing, include a postive one that said "congrats it's a girl!" and a negative one that said came up with "street wear" instead of "maternity wear". See? Way less mental.

Good luck to everyone with everyone. Err, messaries are a pain but have you considered using them rectally? They are absorbed just as well and apart from being, well, a bit gross, they don't leach everywhere. Just a thought to leave you all on... :)