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Hey Soda - that job sounds like a great opportunity to apply your skills to something new - I say go for it! Let us know how you get on

I've actually been interviewing for a new job this wk. Some of my friends think I'm nuts changing jobs while TTC but when we've been trying so long it feels like I've gotta be proactive and take charge in one area of my life, rather than waiting in limbo. I figure if I try everything, surely something will come off - I'll either get the job or I'll get UTD or if by chance I get both then hey, we will deal with that too!

AFM apparently my blood test yesterday shows I'm in the process of ovulating and scan last wk showed 2 good follicles. My ovaries have been aching for 3 days now... Never had mid cycle pain go on so long before but hopefully that's a good sign
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TTC#2: FET Feb 2018: BFN. 9x letrozole all BFN. IVF Feb 2019: BFN.
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Hey ladies. Having a massive downer. I have lost all my symptoms. BT not until Sunday, but I know my body far too well to already know it's going to be a negative. Nurse called yesterday seeing how things are, I didn't say how I am feeling cos I really didn't want to hear her tell me to remain positive and it's too early. Why can't they just acknowledge how we feel in that moment and not to try make us feel better? There are times I NEED to feel these feelings as its all apart of the process but also coming to terms when it doesn't work. A plan is already in place for a negative and we'll do the exact same for next cycle. So just have to wait for CD1 hopefully on Monday morning. Oh I realised that BT is 14 days after IUI, but 13DPO.
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Argh! I'm just over this whole journey!
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Hang in there Fairylight this whole TTC can just be really !!!!

I'm sitting here ready to pull my hair out, also had an IUI and had BT yesterday. I phoned OFS this morning but the nurses didn't answer so waiting for a call back. Today's CD28 so should have sign today that CD1 is on it's way tomorrow, nothing yet but symptoms could be for AF or other argh.
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*hugs* fairylight.

Tulip - what the heck? That's really on the nose to get you to do a BT, and not tell you the results when it's a preg test.... 

Charlie - glad those extra embies made it to freeze in the end! Really hope they will end up spare for siblings - that would be perfect!

AFM, rather down atm. July seems like a long way off again, with nothing to do for the next 3 mths at all. My dog passed away last week as well, so pretty empty at home with her gone. Timing is hard too, as we're not sure with the looming IVF when the best time to get another dog is... Only positive is that I seem to have ov'd early this cycle, so might make my first sub 30 day cycle in a looooong time.
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Oh Mushroom so sorry to hear about your dog, that's really rough. Would you get a puppy?
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Just got a call back yesterday's BT was negative, that's me out. No idea what we'll try next that was my 4th IUI.
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Oh Tulip, that really sucks :(
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M/C 2012, clomid 2013, IVM 2014, IVF 2015, M/C 2015
2016 FET#1- BFP - MMC - Emergency D&C
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Tulip that sucks.
Mushroom sorry to hear about your dog.
Totally get what you mean fairylight, this sucks at times

Rang otago again today, and they have got my referral so next step is getting reviewed by the doctors then waiting for an appointment.
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So sorry to hear Tulip xx hugs
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Big hugs Tulip :-(
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Sorry tulip, big hugs
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Thanks ladies, you're all lovely.   
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Hello again everyone, I've just caught up on the last few months of posts *phew* lots to read, really nice to see some people's baby dreams come true! Commiserations to Tulip and the rest of us who are still waiting...
I think when I last posted I in the 2ww and was feeling really upset. I started spotting a couple of days later so it was kind of a relief to know those upset feelings were PMS. I still held a little hope until the BT but it was a BFN. Which really sucked but DH & I had a consolation holiday together which was really nice.

I just had my second IVF egg collection on Monday, this time using Gonal-F instead of Puregon. Not sure if that was what made the difference but they collected a whopping 19 eggs! We also used ICSI this time, and of 14 they tried to fertilise, 12 worked. Which is a much more hopeful number than the 3 we had last time (and only 1 of which made it to day 3).

I missed the call from the lab so they called DH and he agreed to their recommendation of freezing 4 immediately and growing the other 8 on. Had a call this morning to say we had some grade 2, 3, and 4 embryos, they'll keep watch until Sunday then let us know if there are any worth freezing. My expectations are lower this time, so if we get one decent looking day 5 blastocyst I'll be pleased, plus we've got the 4 day 1 up our sleeve.

It's hard to know what the best course of action is for the fertilised eggs, they said borderline day 3 embryos probably do better in the womb so it makes sense to transfer on day 3 rather than day 5 (i.e. thaw one 1-dayer at a time and see if it reaches day 3 to transfer) but if it didn't make it to day 3 we'd have to wait a whole extra month for our next shot. Times by 12 for the number of day-1s is a long time. Growing them to day 5 lets us know what we have to work with or not, but maybe we'd have more luck if we froze at day 1. No-one really knows so we just have to be patient and hope for the best. With the numbers dropping at each stage I've started calling it "The Eggs Factor" *ba-dum-ch*

Since it was such a high number of eggs we have to wait for my natural cycle to return (about 2 months I'm guessing). It's kind of a blessing since you don't have to use pessaries and I like giving my body a break.

Due to our low fertilisation numbers at the first round (3 from 9 eggs) and the fact we've now been trying for 5 years we've been added to the public funding list. Fingers crossed we don't need it though.

Since we've had so much trouble TTC I've been getting worried for my sister who is 35 and no sign of a suitable partner on the horizon (she's been looking but has only found duds so far). I mentioned the AMH test to her since it could either reassure her that there's no hurry or if things didn't look good at least she could make informed choices about what to do next. I thought the GP could order the test but it turns out they just referred her to Fertility Associates, told her the test was $80 but that was it. So DS phones FA thinking she's making an appointment for the blood test, gets there and it's a Dr consultation with a scan and everything, DS goes along with it because she didn't even know it was a private (not publicly funded) appointment then they whack her with a $270 fee at the end. She calls me in tears because she doesn't have the money to spare. If I'd known where the appt was I could have queried it but no-one said to her she'd have to pay for the appt and I think at the very least the FA receptionist who booked it should have told her at the time. She's going to write them an email but I'm not sure it'll get her anywhere.

Does anyone know if single women can get funded for IVF? I seem to remember before we were referred we had to have been actively trying for 6 months but how does a single woman do that except by "accidentally" forgetting birth control or fibbing about trying, neither of which seem very moral. Hopefully it won't come to that but because of my experience I do worry for her and think the earlier she can get on any necessary waitlists (e.g. sperm donor) the better
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lol sorry for the novel, guess since I hadn't posted for a while I had lots to say
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Big hugs Tulip, gutted to hear.
Hugs Mushroom, fur babies are so special so I'm really gutted to hear your darling has passed. Home is a very different and quiet place without our animals.

All those eggs Delphie! Well done, hopefully you will have lots to work with and enough to complete you family.

Oh fairylight, honey. Sometimes this journey just really sux. You are resilient and will rise again, but please take some time out to process. xx
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oh no Tulip, so sorry it wasnt the news you wanted to hear xx
and sorry about your furbaby passing away Mushroom xxx
and fairylight hugest hugs to you hunny...hang in there xxx you will get through this!

yay delphie thats a fantastic wee bunch of eggies there! go you!  i dont think you can get funding if you are single- that or it takes a long time.. being single id be starting to save for private IVF and a donor if thats what she wants to do eventually.. hopefully she just finds a lovely man and gets UTD no worries though hehe. My sister is 28 so a bit younger but never found Mr .right yet, she worries about the kids thing, I had DD by her age and i think she looks at me and sees herself as having something wrong to not be doing the same... but right now shes jetsetting off to thailand for a holiday- aaand a BOOB job! lol shes hilarious but good on her its what shes wanted for a long time and has done her research, is single, has the money, so why not! she better bring me back a mean prezzie from there too Tongue
HT eagerly awaiting the next week for you!!! come on, you have to be our good news this month (no pressure lol)
well since taking my last clomid pill all the nausea etc has gone- man it was a shocker this time- felt on the cusp of vomiting for 5 days straight... the next person who tells me "well at least you dont have to do IVF yet, you just take those pills and can carry on with life...ummmmmmm.... ill just urge them to try it and have the first 6 days of the cycle feeling like you are going to pass out/have blinding headaches and bad nausea, a few days reprieve then ov is coming so your ovaries hurt like mad, sometimes to the point sex hurts (and they tell you to relax and enjoy it??? huh.) then another weeks reprieve but you have to make sure you dont eat anything bad, drink any alcohol, limit coffee....then the AF stuff starts to happen and your an emotional basketcase (made worse by the drugs- i never had pms until clomid!) cramps, back pain, more nausea and headaches then oh looky not pregnant you have to do it all over again! and you have to deal with that while hubby is away with the military and you are home alone working nearly full time and looking after a 4 year old...... THAT sums up my month lol. so tell me to relax one more time..i dare ya... 
but right now, im in that "few days of reprieve" and its nice.. really noticing not feeling ill all the time, its lovely! day 9 bloods tomorrow to see if im gearing up to ov..not expecting much of a result as i ov (other than last cycle but that was screwy at best) day 18 on clomid every time. but ill do what the nurse says and go get jabbed...its to the point that DD now recognises "the blood test lady" in the supermarket! haha. the joys of living in a small town huh Smile
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Hehe Soda on the 'blood test lady' - my son used to be all matter of fact about mummy getting another blood test as well - though I had to go to a place right next to BK, so he'd get chippies if he was a good boy!

Fully agree too - there is not such thing as *just* on this journey. I remember back to when we'd only been trying for 6 mths for DS, but I knew things weren't right in my heart, which is when I got my official pcos diagnosis (didn't find out about hubby for another 7 mths). We only *just* needed clomid.... yeah right. My mindset now is that every day I feel good I work on enjoying each moment, and on bad days just tell myself I'm a legend for getting to the end (and a double legend if I make dinner too!).

Delphie - I'm glad they got lots of eggs! Hope those 8 growing embies grow strong and pop nicely into the freezer for you. And your 4 day 1s defrost nicely on the other end too. Pity we can't get 2 transferred at once in NZ, as with day 1 embies would be nice to thaw 2 at a time to double chances of having a good one (and transferring both).

How are you doing Fairylight? And Tulip?

Thanks for the hugs ladies. It's funny how I keep expecting our golden girl to come around the corner. Not sure about getting a puppy - will put our name down with breeders, but there aren't many litters available each year and most litters now will be next spring ish, so a wait. And with IVF in the middle of that I'm thinking a puppy and a potential baby is not a good idea - puppies are a lot of work for the first year getting them properly trained, and exercising their boundless energy out of them! So probably looking at either getting an older dog (poss retired breeder or a non-show-quality one not suitable for breeding), or waiting a long time until we can get a puppy....
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M/C 2012, clomid 2013, IVM 2014, IVF 2015, M/C 2015
2016 FET#1- BFP - MMC - Emergency D&C
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Hi everyone

I've just joined this forum so thought I'd introduce myself here.

Hubby and I have been TTC for 18 months, finally got to see a specialist last month at Fertility Associates in Hamilton, which is 3 hours from where we live. So far our infertility is unexplained cos all test are normal... We see specialist again next month but she indicated last time that if some tests were normal then we would likely be going straight to IVF. So from what I've read we will have to be TTC for 5 years before getting public funding... which seems an eternity! So we will hopefully be able to do at least one round privately soon.

Its such an unbelievably hard time, the uncertainty and not being in control are so hard! Sometimes i just cannot be bothered getting out of bed and going to work day after day... And its amazing to me to see so many people on here having gone through so much more... we have experienced nothing in comparison!

Anyway just saying hi, nice to meet you all :-)
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Hi Merrily nice to meet you too. Sorry you're having TTC troubles. It must be really frustrating having unexplained infertility. My experience with FA was they were very quick to rush us into signing up for IVF, we got a second opinion and I had more tests like checking my tubes weren't blocked which FA didn't mention doing. The specialist we went with took a step back and we tried monitored cycles using clomid first, then clomid and IUI before looking at IVF. IVF is a huge expense plus a lot to go through physically and emotionally.

Does it help if I say I know how you feel. :-) Try keeping busy and when you feel down jump on here and say hi as you'll always find a sympathetic reader.

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